#Which Champ Do You Think Has the Best Quality CC?

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peak breach
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  1. is naut
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has point and click cc which can hit multiple, knocks up, and cant mitigate it with qss

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so he will always be 1. unless they add something new

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2 is probably leona

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since balance of engage and sustained cc with the low q cd

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idk you can miss center of r and still slow for e setup

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id say 3 4 5 is all point and click cc

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rakan is up there

cursive fulcrum
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Lissandra

wide edge
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zac and leona i believe tie for most hard CC at 3 abilities

peak breach
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naut has 3 hard ccs

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passive root, q, and ulti

sand coral
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leona also has 3

peak breach
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he said leona xd

sweet fossil
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It 4 actually

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Count slow

dusty arrow
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rell actually

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4 ccs

sweet fossil
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Rell have 5

dusty arrow
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all of them more useful then naut in a teamfight

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naut is good for getting picks, he is a hook champ

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same with leona

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cant contribute much else then getting a few picks -which in pro play is still monumental-

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but is a team diver cc support

sweet fossil
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Because pro play have team

dusty arrow
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but the question is what is the best quality cc

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for that i would say maybe tahm kench q

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like you can walk out of a nautilus if youre lucky

sweet fossil
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Bltizcrank hook

dusty arrow
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but tahm is a champ when you get licked and stunned you are already dead and you know it

sweet fossil
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Only hoot to root when hard cc

dusty arrow
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depends on what you define as most quality

sweet fossil
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Talk best quality knockup , rell ult, Rakan charm , reneta ult

dusty arrow
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id say

  1. how easy is it to land
  2. how much of a death sentence is it for you
  3. how spammable is it/how effective is it in teamfights
dusty arrow
crude canyon
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@sweet fossil nicky larson has the best CC

sweet fossil
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Most those ability are eZ to miss

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But some supp have point and click

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Coughed alistar

dusty arrow
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they are hard to hit tho you gotta have alot of skill

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but renata r into flash does work btw

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yeah i think renata has the best quality cc in the game

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since she is the only support who could get an ace lategame with 1 abbilitie

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-alongside pyke-

peak breach
bitter turret
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Nautilus, reliable, solid

peak breach
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pls tell me how rells full dodgeable kit is better than naut in a teamfight

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you dodge rell crashdown and tell me what they do

sweet fossil
peak breach
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for the rest of the whole fight

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pls lmk

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u can walk out of it btw

dusty arrow
dusty arrow
peak breach
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he doesnt need to open with q?

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he can ult first

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then what

sweet fossil
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Then he q

peak breach
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you will tank his full combo and dmg

sweet fossil
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E aa w aa

peak breach
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while rell presses w and hopes to god

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that you stand in it

sweet fossil
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There other w

peak breach
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XD

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just wait 10s cd

dusty arrow
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but when naut catches 1 person the one gay maybe dead cool 4 other remaining

peak breach
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no

dusty arrow
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but rell can use all of her abbilties on 5 people

peak breach
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because he ults the backline in the middle of a tf

sweet fossil
peak breach
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and anyone in front will be knocked

sweet fossil
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Ofc player miss w but not dash

peak breach
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and he can ult backline to disable while rooting front with aa's

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or q

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to solo win a tf without relying on hitting spells

dusty arrow
peak breach
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no it isnt

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its point and click

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onto the people behind

dusty arrow
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you can just move out of the way when you see the wave

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rell can flash w into a team

peak breach
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? they will be right in front of naut blocking him

dusty arrow
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its like a mini malphite ult

peak breach
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and insta knocked

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are u suggesting the frontline makes way for naut

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and lets him walk up to the backline and hook

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uncontested

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that isnt how to win

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vs naut XD

bitter turret
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Renata/Nami late game almost solely for their ults are kinda dumb

peak breach
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when you could

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flash naut ult

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onto the backline

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and then continue being giga useful

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for the rest of the fight

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and have less counterplay

bitter turret
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Mao CC very good

dusty arrow
mellow wasp
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I don't think Renata's cc is that good

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Renata's cc is probably one of the best peel

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But most engage champs has use their cc to go in and peel

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Rell has really good peel cc
but atleast has a solid engage

lusty plover
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Zac, Naut, Leona.

sand coral
peak breach
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i rlly think rakan cc is better than zac

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zac e and q are pretty unreliable compared to rakan (rakan can set up a w on 2-3+ ppl with ult and time it for more duration)

elfin tulip
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Leona or Lissandra

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Kennen is p nasty too

fallen flare
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Rakan

peak breach
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i think malz is worse than liss

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other than in lane

elfin tulip
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rakan cc is so slow

peak breach
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not rly

elfin tulip
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and malz cc is literally his r

peak breach
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he has silence also technically

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but yes the r is why i say that ofc

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thing is with malz ult you need to get qss but a sup can mikaels lissandra

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which is a big diff

maiden nimbus
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has little disengage without someone to dash back to with E

peak breach
peak breach
maiden nimbus
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let me reword

peak breach
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if it doesnt you shouldnt be wasting it

maiden nimbus
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we’re looking at spells in vacuum no

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we aren’t adding more factors

peak breach
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?

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so rakan e doesnt exist ever

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since the literal fact of you ccing for teammate dmg

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is another factor

pulsar wharf
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Leona

elfin tulip
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p sure even the top rank rakan players complain about his cc being mediocre

bitter turret
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leona has a way of either being insanely strong or completely useless

elfin tulip
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just go through second page

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feel like its a reliable enough source considering his rank + dedication to the champ

obsidian sluice
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ivern

dusty arrow
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since his whole team can basically hook onto them

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i still think renata takes the cake

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bc in ideal situations renata wins the game

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alone

worthy drum
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Thresh or Morgana

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Morgana can chain cc if built right

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And if it's something that isn't a support I'd say vex or malza

olive ether
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I'm willing to say Zilean.

Sure, He's Q W Q can easily be dodged or can easily miss with it, but think about his E, a 2.5 second slow you can cast twice if you do a E W E instead, and it rounds up to 5 seconds if you time the second slow just right.

What makes Zilean's slow insane is how it scales up to 99% movement speed.

It can also give your allies some movement speed, which is very useful for champions who lack mobility in fights

Oh, right. About the Q W Q possibly missing, you cannot miss the enemy if you slow them first unless they burn a flash, which I think is worth.

peak breach
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Or saying the e is underwhelming

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His r is the way for his other abilities to be good

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And he has high peel/engage potential with it given the same followup any other champ needs

dusty arrow
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i forgot about malzahar

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ngl

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does mordekaiser death realm count as a cc?

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if yes its gotta be up there

peak breach
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its counted as a suppression effect without the normal disabling qualities

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but personally i dont think its that great of a cc to put him up there

dusty arrow
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but deffenitely above stuff like morgana q

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idk if its kinda biased to put the stat boost to the cc

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since its just a secondary effect kinda

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also just in general deleting a champ from the game for a few seconds can be so good

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"morde stop trolling ult the carry"

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honestly i was also thinking about bard

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his ult is probably too complex to even rank logically

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but his q? good bards hit that shit and stun 3 enemies

elfin tulip
mellow wasp
# elfin tulip https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mwhREZdjYu82vzG-VjIU-F0RqQT_d2uaLyumpQPP...

The sheer schizosity of this entire powerpoint and the level of redundancy is unmatched in any write up on this video game whether it be from an OTP about their champ, a breakdown of a pro game, a deep dive into different core systems in the game, a breakdown on a particular role or a critique of a patch I have ever seen and I try to read them all as I find them. The only thing ultimate about this as far as I can tell is how ultimately poorly written it is.

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50% of this is just pretending like riot as an entity has a grudge against a videogame character

elfin tulip
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oh yeah, idk why he thinks riot has this huge grudge against rakan lmfao

peak breach
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what else does it talk about that you think is relevant

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and rakan is a perfectly fine champ in highelo btw

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i dont consider "the champ should be better" to be a cogent criticism

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he is solid

fallen flare
young loom
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everyone here forgets about galio....his e is easy to stun and you will prolly build everfrost....you have nearly free knockup, a root from item, then taunt, and then there is ur r that can knock up many people at once....huge cc. gotta love a good galio support

sand coral
grand warren
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morgana q end of disscusion

hidden musk
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alistar undodgeable knockup and guaranteed stun after in most cases