still drum
When the new champ select debuted. There was no autofill. And people were waiting 15 minutes for their Silver games. Challengers sat in queue for 2 fucking hours at times.
Every high elo and Pro player cried a river and almost everyone in lower elo complained as well.
Here's the evidence @wind shoal
Also has Overwatch taught yall nothing?
sudden totem
I'd rather wait for 15 minutes to get the role that I know I can play than a role in which I don't know how to play as wel
abstract ore
Here's the evidence <@403423214505558026>
god fucking thank you
abstract ore
I'd rather wait for 15 minutes to get the role that I know I can play than a rol...
never hurts to improve yourself
scarlet tundra
is it only ranked ppl that get auto filled or what? im lvl 190 norms player and i can count the number of times ive been autofilled on one hand
i main top and jungle so that prob has an impact on it, but still
daring prism
Here's the evidence <@403423214505558026>
😂😂😂
sudden totem
never hurts to improve yourself
Are you suggesting I become a jack of all trades, master of none?
summer void
When the new champ select debuted. There was no autofill. And people were waitin...
I prefer wait 15 min than wait 2 but loose in 15min because the game is unfair
abstract ore
Are you suggesting I become a jack of all trades, master of none?
I mean never hurts, but more my point is if you arent satisfied with your ability somewhere, you can always improve it.
abstract ore
I prefer wait 15 min than wait 2 but loose in 15min because the game is unfair
chally's definitely dont wanna wait 2 hours again.
summer void
chally's definitely dont wanna wait 2 hours again.
maybe it was a matchmaking problem because for have watch a lot challenger player stream they're not auto fill often
abstract ore
im thinking if its as long as 15 minutes for low elos its likely to get worse more than better the higher you go.
outer perch
I'd rather wait for 15 minutes to get the role that I know I can play than a rol...
u could also just get better at that role lmao
getting more knowledge of what other roles do is good even when ur not controlling it
if ur point guard in basketball u should still know what power forward does
sudden totem
I would rather play a role that I'm good at than a role that I'm mediocre or bad at
This is like one tricking vs. playing a wide range of champions
azure sage
LOL|
outer perch
the point is
u cant just know ur one role
and expect to win easily
lmao
if u dont know all the chess pieces
azure sage
^
sudden totem
Well of course
outer perch
how do u strategize
azure sage
^
outer perch
autofill protection
if u play a fill game
just play it out and learn something
and then go back to ur main positions
sudden totem
I can play safely on top, I'm okay with mid, and bot is easy
outer perch
imho thats a really massive reward
sudden totem
I just play better on jungle and support
outer perch
'hey don't solo lose ur team the game rn and we will give u the positions u want next game'
u can still use basic fundamentals in every game
no matter ur position
bc those are the easiest things to develop in order to win more
sudden totem
Basic fundamentals as in?
outer perch
don't feed
use your map and utilize vision
get the free last hits you can and don't int health in lane for farm
junglers should know an idea of how to clear on their champs reasonably healthily/quickly
positioning in 5v5s
obv oversimplification but those are the big ones
that can get u to like gold
sudden totem
The last two are more dependent on role and what champ you're playing
outer perch
positioning as a general concept isn't hard to understand
beefy engage go first
burst are midline or backline depending on enemy engage
dps carries are backline to wait for free opporunities to attack
positioning as specific classes/champs is more complicated but most of them are simple
its only weird hybrid champs like jayce who can fulfill multiple roles that gets weird because of his hammer and cannon
sudden totem
The only role I suck on is top
outer perch
i think the fact is
if u dont mind being filled
u have no right to complain when other people are autofilled
and if u mind autofill
sudden totem
I kinda do mind being filled
outer perch
u have no right to complain when ur waiting longer than people who will take the fill for shorter queue times
sudden totem
Ya
outer perch
because queue times like haon said were fucking aids
sudden totem
I'm not complaining about queue times
outer perch
15 minutes in silver made tons of people quit
let alone 2 hours in higher elo
im not talking about u im talking about general playerbase
bc people like to bitch
when they lose
sudden totem
So basically you like autofill
daring prism
15 minutes in silver made tons of people quit
15 min queue timer vs support yasuo and -15 whats better now
sudden totem
Support yasuo isn't that bad
A support yasuo who doesn't know what they're doing is
daring prism
people like to troll on purpose because you wont let them go to their lane
can i go top
no
proceeds to pick toplaner and go top
daring prism
?
people like to troll because they got autofill
"i got no champs"
"i cant play support"
outer perch
and if u mind autofill
.
daring prism
"im going disco nunu"
daring prism
u have no right to complain when ur waiting longer than people who will take the...
i dont complain
id rather wait 15 mins
sudden totem
Me too
daring prism
normal queue timers are already about 8 minutes at most
15 isnt that bad
2 hours on challenger their fault not having a life
jk but idk what to do about that
outer perch
id rather wait 15 mins
big doubt that everyone else would too
daring prism
on low elo idc about waiting 15 mins
daring prism
big doubt that everyone else would too
will that then be like
outer perch
because most people don't like waiting that long for a single game
sudden totem
I think it's more about whether players want to start playing a game quickly or wait for maybe 15 minutes and have players who know their role
daring prism
I think it's more about whether players want to start playing a game quickly or ...
tbf its no difference
outer perch
and then get outclassed anyway
outer perch
like this is a lose lose scenario
sudden totem
On one hand, you lose lp quicker
sudden totem
On the other hand, you get potentially harder games
daring prism
id rather wait for 15 mins either but we 2 dont get to decide for a million players
daring prism
2 hours is like what 4 games
and you do that just to play one game
thats like
2:30 for one game
you can only play 7 games a day with 3 hours of it being in match
remaining is queue timer
thats bullshit ngl
daring prism
you can only play 7 games a day with 3 hours of it being in match
just did the maths
in a 24 hours day
you can only play like 10 games
with 20 hours of it being queue timer
and 4-5 hours of game
pretty sure nobody wouldo do that
distant cairn
One thing I always keep in mind with league
daring prism
people usually like play one/two game and close league
now imagine
you wated 5 hours to play those 2
wasted*
distant cairn
Some games have long queue times; 5 minutes can be a long queue if the average match is 8-15 minutes. League I’d say is on average 25-35 minutes so waiting just a bit long is fair imo
daring prism
Some games have long queue times; 5 minutes can be a long queue if the average m...
removing autofill will increase that resulting in people quitting resulting in longer queue resulting in more quits and a snowball
distant cairn
Sometimes it’s ridiculous but it’s “better” to wait 10 mins in league than in a game where the match is 10 minutes so you’re losing time
I know
I just felt like adding that
zinc gazelle
if anything pros didnt need to complain
silver and lower elo players complained more
the higher you go the more mains you get in different roles
the lower you go the more skewed the results get
anyone who wants autofill removed needs to get gud
because autofill isnt why you're hard stuck
daring prism
pov you remove auto fill and the game dies instantly and the $1000 you spent on a virtual game for skins on egirl champs
isn’t useful anymore
xD
use ur brain tears
twats
clever wren
never hurts to improve yourself
when i want to, not when i get forced
clever wren
pov you remove auto fill and the game dies instantly and the $1000 you spent on ...
funny how a guy who asks how to play katarina after getting her egirl skin talks about other people malding after spending for skins lol
also if u spend 1000 on this game then u probably are malding already with or without autofill
daring prism
funny how a guy who asks how to play katarina after getting her egirl skin talks...
i got it for free
i won clash
i mentioned that
😭
but i wasn’t asking for how to@play i was asking for build paths/runes
straw man big
carmine kestrel
Remove Autofill. Remove Offrole. Why do i only wait 1-2min and then get autofilled? Just do autofill if queue time is at 6+ min. What the fuck
still drum
Remove Autofill. Remove Offrole. Why do i only wait 1-2min and then get autofill...
Hard to draw a cutoff for every role/rank
zinc gazelle
what mmr are you guys experiencing so much autofill?
where its enough to complain about it
summer void
what mmr are you guys experiencing so much autofill?
I not often auto fill but i'm legit 1/3 of my games second role
and i'm picking mid/top
carmine kestrel
its about midlane
daring prism
Wow picking the most popular roles and then getting your secondary. Crazy!!!
carmine kestrel
they said when they nerf dodging, they will reduce autofilling, but people tbh dodge being offrole. They didnt even change anything, im mos tof time offroled.
:/
summer void
I just pick role that I like that's all
but I don't think getting second role 1/3 games should be something normal
carmine kestrel
Wow picking the most popular roles and then getting your secondary. Crazy!!!
getting secondary most of time, at only 2-3 minute queue time.
daring prism
getting secondary most of time, at only 2-3 minute queue time.
Getting secondary ≠ autofill. You select the 2 roles you feel comfortable with and the game will try to get you in those roles. If you get your Secondary a lot that’s genuinely not even bad as opposed to autofill.
I think autofilled players should either dodge or play it out. I don’t care but all these autofill babies crying wolf because Riot has it out for them is cringe as fuck.
And I can guarantee that 99% of all autofill crybabies did not play back when you had to fight tooth and nail for your role in champ select because of pick order.
summer void
but getting secondary is still not the role you want to play
daring prism
The system we have is significantly better and if you can’t see that then you’re challenged not challenger.
summer void
If the matchmaking could put the same amount of secondary and autofill in the both team it could be fair
but this is not the case
daring prism
Okay then never play soloQ or duo do you never need to pick a secondary. Only 5tack so you can guarantee your role. Problem solved.
In fact while we’re at it let’s remove role selection from the client!!!
Then everyone will be able to get the roles the want!!!
summer void
what are your problem legit ?
that's not what a I was saying
the actual system is ok
but it's not just not fair in some case
daring prism
It literally is “WAAAAAH I GOT MY SECONDARY AND WASNT AUTOFILLED!”
summer void
did you read what I writed ?
daring prism
Just never pick a secondary and you’ll never get it 5Head
summer void
well nevermind you're too low too understand I guess
daring prism
I guess bro! But man I can’t believe that picking the most popular role in the game will lead to getting your secondary more frequently, which is also a very popular role!! Crazy concept!!!
summer void
I no more argue with you, you don't even read what I wrote
and mb to like a role btw
carmine kestrel
everyone who thinks autofilling is healthy and doesnt make the game quality just worse is delusional
daring prism
and mb to like a role btw
Complains that you’re not getting Mid, the most popular role in the entire game, in every server, every nanosecond, and instead, getting Top, another very popular role, because you put it as your secondary, but because it’s your secondary it’s basically autofill in your eyes, but you very rarely ever get autofilled and instead get your secondary.
It’s not about you liking a role, it’s about you acting like an entitled idiot. If you’re getting your secondary more frequently then your not getting autofilled. How is that bad and if it is then literally just only 5tack so you can guarantee that you get your preferred role!!
carmine kestrel
everyone who does think the system is fine is obviously not a mid main and is trash elo
no other explaination
that we really need to discuss about that
daring prism
everyone who does think the system is fine is obviously not a mid main and is tr...
Sure bro lmao. Salty you can’t out RNG your teammates role selections?
zinc gazelle
@summer void I run mid/top and i'm autofill maybe 1 out of 25
summer void
Complains that you’re not getting Mid, the most popular role in the entire game,...
still not read what I wrote
zinc gazelle
i get mid very often
summer void
<@321660956012707843> I run mid/top and i'm autofill maybe 1 out of 25
depends of the elo I guess
zinc gazelle
like the higher you go the easier it is for you to get your role
because people begin to specialize
zinc gazelle
2nd roll isnt autofill
carmine kestrel
for me it is
daring prism
Cope
zinc gazelle
then you gotta get your head out of your ass
zinc gazelle
getting 1 of the two options you select is good
get better
at be able to multi role
or duo
its expected that people in higher elo will be able to multi role decently
to the point they can perform ok on their "off role"
daring prism
OHNONONONO @carmine kestrel MY SECONDARY WAS SELECTED OH GOD OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Gonna play it out since I’m not a baby
zinc gazelle
like in higher elo you have jg mains
once you hit plat most jg are jg mains
im in mid gold and can run mid/jg secondary and still get mid 75%
carmine kestrel
Literally autofill doesnt exist, i am pretty sure people mean being 2nd role or not primary role
when they do discussions
celest magnet
i usually just tell my team im autofilled and let them decide if they want me on my role or be a less impactful player on autofill
like "guys gl im autofill dont expect much"
vocal sail
ow role queue has killed the game
zinc gazelle
autofill does exist
getting 3rd role like jg
when you queue mid and top is autofill
the autofill feature is much better than the dota 2 way of handling it
but if you really never want to autofill learn to play jungle
cobalt willow
Literally autofill doesnt exist, i am pretty sure people mean being 2nd role or ...
As @zinc gazelle mentioned this is not true, actual autofill does exist (that's what autofill protection at the bottom of the lobby is) however people do often say autofill when they mean they got their secondary role because they are so utterly baby brained that they cry they moment they dont get the exact same lane and same champ 100 games in a row and they have last pick
cobalt willow
no they complain about first pick
zinc gazelle
oh
cobalt willow
I'm saying they get mad if they cant pick last
zinc gazelle
ah
thats why different champions exist though
sometimes you get rocked
othertimes you do the rocking
cobalt willow
because god forbid they play a matchup with 49.8 percent winrate instead of 56
honestly I empathize with ppl who hate getting filled jungle only because you are the scapegoat of everyone who ever dies in the game
sinful totem
dont care, i can wait 1h for a game but i want to play on my main role to have 100%winrate
daring prism
dont care, i can wait 1h for a game but i want to play on my main role to have 1...
Surely Clueless
sinful totem
Surely Clueless
pisslow issue
cobalt willow
it's not your decision to make though, the system affects everyone and ppl prefer waiting very short queues in exchange for getting a role they dont want every now and then
so like
get over it tbh
sinful totem
it's not your decision to make though, the system affects everyone and ppl prefe...
thats why i dont play this gamr anymore besides making money
daring prism
pisslow issue
Yeah and in High Elo it’d be 2 hours+ 
sinful totem
this game ks getting worse and worse
cobalt willow
well awesome, good
cobalt willow
fantastic
sinful totem
Yeah and in High Elo it’d be 2 hours+ <:LULW:682005119000379448>
cry
daring prism
daring prism
The crypto account seller has me shaking in my boots
cobalt willow
I won't!
daring prism
cobalt willow
I won;t do it
sinful totem
The crypto account seller has me shaking in my boots
want to live share my garage? 
daring prism
want to live share my garage? <:EveSmug:780159081049882636>
Nah I’m good ☺️ I like my life 
sinful totem
cobalt willow
how come you like your life when you have to play a diff role sometimes
that sounds
horrifying
daring prism
how come you like your life when you have to play a diff role sometimes
Ikr crazy
sinful totem
how come you like your life when you have to play a diff role sometimes
why would i when im playing once a month and i need to get 100-90wr on an order
cobalt willow
it's good to let it out sometimes
cobalt willow
uh, okay
what a thread man, imagine the queue system in the tencent video game legal legends makes people this upset
what a wacky world huh
daring prism
It’s his personality trait don’t invalidate it
still drum
I not often auto fill but i'm legit 1/3 of my games second role
idk how you are getting autofilled so often, I'm getting my secondary every 20-25 games as mid/top
cobalt willow
idk how you are getting autofilled so often, I'm getting my secondary every 20-2...
mid top I have noticed is a pretty good combo (at least at my low elo) for getting mid but I think other combos are much worse
like if you pick mid/jungle you get jungle a lot
I'm assuming the same for top/jungle
and god knows what adc players pick second
and of course if you go anything/support I assume you get support very very often
zinc gazelle
Well if you're secondary the most needed role in the game
And complaining about getting slotted LMAO
Brain issue
still drum
I used to queue mid/jgl
got filled to my secondary too often
I just learned how to play a single top lane champ
and I main mid/top now
summer void
I used to queue mid/jgl
got filled to my secondary too often
I just learned how ...
Yes ok but why in some games there can be a team with 3 auto fills agains't a team without any auto fills ?
that's the problem for me
still drum
Yes ok but why in some games there can be a team with 3 auto fills agains't a te...
shouldn't be possible
Probably just players asking swaps
or people who like to play every role
summer void
shouldn't be possible
probably that much is pretty rare but in high elo just got 1 more auto fill than the ennemy team is just game
storm talon
get rid of autofill pls!
abstract ore
Suck it up and learn roles out of your comfort zone.
daring prism
Suck it up and learn roles out of your comfort zone.
damn get em
abstract ore
We’ve had this post like eight times, removing autofill would only serve to piss everyone off further.
daring prism
We’ve had this post like eight times, removing autofill would only serve to piss...
i’m w u dawg
get em
ornate reef
Suck it up and learn roles out of your comfort zone.
just learn jungle or supp as secondary roles, yeah xd
same 
sudden totem
I also main jg and sup
ornate reef
i am currently going supp / mid as my picks, because i know i'll get support
but when i feel spicy that supp / jungle comes out
sudden totem
I go sup/mid in ranked cause I have a 0% winrate in jungle 
Also I'm saving for a new jungle that will hopefully bring my winrate to 50%
ornate reef
in total i have played 1 mid game this season
played swain against a yone... and kinda crushed them xd
swain felt a bit clunky before the mini rework
but now he feels so goooooood
sudden totem
Should I get j4 or hecarim?
distant cairn
Should I get j4 or hecarim?
Haven’t played j4 but Hec is just such a fun champion
You can peak at almost 1000MS out of spawn late game
sudden totem
What level does hec start ganking at?
distant cairn
What level does hec start ganking at?
lvl3 but at 6 theres no escape
you can activate E and use your R to hit them, then after that your E will push them
so you can use your massive R dash to fear and gap close and E to push them where you want to after
plus getting to lanes is very easy
strong canyon
low elo piss takes
remove autofill
when I queue up I should not be getting autofilled otp renekton top against gm jg main
heavy cipher
low elo piss takes
you say that like it will benefit high elo too
gl with the hour long master+ queues
strong canyon
if rather wait
then play a 15 min ff
literally every game in masters-gm is attack the wutofill player and have the enemy team 15
and thats not even mentioning the amount of times my entire team is mid mains vs all on role enemy team
still drum
if rather wait
Then wait
by dodge
Dopa dodges a lot
You can still wait 2 hours to play the game by dodging alone lol
daring prism
literally every game in masters-gm is attack the wutofill player and have the en...
So true
still drum
That's how long dopa waits lol
daring prism
Autofill doesn't matter as much in lower elo cause being auto fill won't be the primary reason they lose but in higher elo being autofilled is clear as daylight and the other OTP can capatalise on your weakness and game ends 15 so where's the fairness in that for the autofill and his/her team
celest magnet
i noticed that when i sat even in d4 players would op gg you and look you up, 95% Of the time i get auto filled at the time, they offer me mid lane even if i say nothing
because they know ill int my autofilled role
and rather have me on a role where i wont turbo int
ripe vault
Buy flex champs