#How do you sniff out smurfs

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halcyon tree
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Anyway to see particular things that say I’m a Smurf?

wintry heron
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movement

full panther
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lvl 30s and bought acc names are always a bit wierd

rustic trout
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they usually dont die for stupid reasons, and have big impact on the game even if they die

shadow cypress
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tie every account with phone number

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no more ebay accounts it would drastically reduce it because not a lot of smurfs want to just level 30 climb every time they lose like 4 in ranked

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so they just buy another one

broken siren
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Losing 4 in a row will sometimes fuck the mmr like some accounts I lost 2 in a row and went from +24 -7 to +19 -12 and I’m not tryna deal with that but other accounts I’ve lost 5 in a row and stayed at +25 -8

broken siren
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Smurf

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But the league community says anyone who beats them in lane is a smurf so just lose lane every game and no smurf accusations

white apex
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I mean i've found some smurfs but the system already does a good job of weeding them out

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once your mmr becomes a lot higher than your lp badge you get put into smurf queue

shadow cypress
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the reason why tying accounts with a phone number would drastically reduce smurfing is just most of them wont go through the effort

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if we replicated what korea does the amount of "smurfs" that exist would be almost non existent

split cipher
shadow cypress
split cipher
shadow cypress
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its completely different q than "normal" queues

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I wait average 10+ minutes for smurfq

split cipher
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i don’t

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i wait ~5

shadow cypress
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normal games I get in about 1-2 minutes

split cipher
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normal games r 3-4

shadow cypress
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even in high plat-low diamond

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I have drastically lower queue times playing on an actual "hardstuck" account than smurfq

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the only times I dont is because I didn't go the normal mmr boost and playing in the garbage level 30 smurfq

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which is just a bunch of toxic, inting, griefers, and people who get perma'd every 3 days in one queue

split cipher
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i had a fairly good experience in my smurfq

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there was an inter per game but aside from that inter the game quality of everybody else was way higher

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then my normal quality game

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that might just be a personal experience dif tho

shadow cypress
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there is one where its 100% wr tryhard duos with insane mmr

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and everyone else

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your experience drastically changes depending on which one you are in, i've been in both and playing on normal level 30 smurfq accounts is quite a horrible experience compared to actually good game quality where everyone is trying to win

marble haven
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It's honestly hard to tell, because even master+ smurfs can struggle in low elo.

shadow cypress
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winning in that one is far more difficult everyone is average at least d1+

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I was getting hard carried im not that good by my duo

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who is gm in china

split cipher
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yea my smurf q was probably average plat dia

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and i’m normally gold

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and overall i felt p good

marble haven
split cipher
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considering i was playing adc

shadow cypress
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i've won games playing graves adc in the garbage one

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its like people dont even think in it

marble haven
shadow cypress
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you can have a person who could of just got lucky with a 6 win streak on your team

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vs a vayne soraka duo that is 35 games in 100% wr

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i've seen that

split cipher
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💀

halcyon tree
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If I want two threads to connect il note that

tidal loom
broken siren
broken siren
halcyon tree
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youre pointing out that i had a thread about losing so im guessing you said youre asking about smurfs bc i lost a match

broken siren
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No it’s just a common thing that happens in league and most competitive video games

shadow cypress
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what

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they invented smurfq because smurfs were actually ruining games

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if they wanted to get rid of smurfing

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they would tie accounts with phone numbers because majority of people wont go through the effort of having lots of accounts then, and the account buying market would be useless

white apex
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Smurf queue is good for League though

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Overall you don't have smurfs in your games

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Even if you think you do

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By the nature of how snowballing league is. You have people who pop off and get 20 kills sometimes. Doesn't mean they're a Smurf

shadow cypress
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they just don't want it to be

halcyon tree
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I’ve never called someone a smurf except for maybe a few cases where a low level was outsmarting everyone and really doing good, but then still it could just be a good new player or perhaps lucky

white apex
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I had one real smurf incident. Guy was a GM boosting an account to gold the night before season end. He at 25 minutes had 30 kills at 300 CS as lucian

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legit 1v5d the team himself

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i got rolled vs him playing kayle top

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and my team flamed me :(]

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but there was nothing i could do

terse geode
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I had to play against an ex LCS player because he just bought an aged account

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Imagine if smurfQ was gone

white ocean
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its easy to see a smurf just if you watchhow they play

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small things like a top laner walking away after seeing their jg pathing up on a tiny bit of vision or slow pushing top wave when drags spawning etc

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very easy way to check if your jg is smurfing is how they look at objs and when they do herald

tidal loom
# terse geode Imagine if smurfQ was gone

If smurf queue was gone, the smurfs wouldn't be in your elo very long, you might run into one once in a while but it wouldnt be a problem. This whole hidden MMR system that riot has is garbage, just get rid of smurf queue.

mortal prism
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Just check op gg and you know if player is smurfing or not

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If you see 4+ kda with Winrate 80%+ for 20+ games

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You know guy is smurf

mellow lark
radiant gorge
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their ign looks like they already play the game or smtn like yasuo destroyer or that stuff means smurf acc 😄

terse geode
broken siren
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most people who put champs in there name are dog shit

ruby canyon
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i mean i never assume theyre a smurf unless theyre getting 9cs/m+, have really good map awareness and just dont make mistakes... but i dont really see such players, I just see really good players but not that I'd think "oh man that guys a smurf"

split cipher
terse geode
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A gold player can have 70% winrate, in bronze

normal bone
halcyon tree
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Bronze 5?

normal bone
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ya

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@halcyon tree this was before grandmaster and iron was added

halcyon tree
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I see

normal bone
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and there was promos for every tier lmao

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like promos from silver 2 to silver 1 etc

halcyon tree
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How old is that?

normal bone
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a while ago

broken siren
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make this meta on draven

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we can do it bois

normal bone
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only gonna work in pisslow silver

broken siren
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its the challenger runes

white ocean
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all the people who have like the cringe charactering of like vex or kayle or smth all suck

teal knot
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u can always see smurfs buying level 30's account when u check their match history and its filled with intro bot games

harsh oriole
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  1. Match history is just bot games and account is low lvl 2. Their name is random characters or a generic name with random characters before or after it
broken siren
odd flicker
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wdym? when the game starts

broken siren
gritty trellis
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any decent smurfs are not gonna be in ur games if ur not in smurfq

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unless thety are duoq

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aside from that literally just high winrates and low lvl accounts

odd flicker
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how do I not end up in smurfq just because I decided to change the server?

gritty trellis
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play more games

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and duoq with people who are normal

odd flicker
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damn

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either have friends or give up life, both hard choices

marble haven
# terse geode Never

I can't speak from experience because I'm literally stuck in bronze/silver, but from watching series of challengers climbing on new (real) accounts, it takes them much longer to climb out of silver-gold than it does plat-diamond. Simply just the nature of solo queue and rolling bad teammates and even better opponents. Half the reason riot hands out diamond accounts to pro players is so they don't have to waste nearly a month grinding through that hellscape.

brittle harbor
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If they play at a much higher level than what their rank is

split cipher
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D1-D2 is a tumor

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Low elo wasn't hard for me to climb out from

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I would say someone is smurfing if they have 60%+ wr

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Even Tarzaned said that high diamond is the hardest elo and I agree

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Too many fanbøeyes leaving the game faster than it starts

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Also in low elo they make a lot of mistakes so how can it be harder you most likely can solo carry from it

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Stop getting all the kek knowledge from Reddit users

terse geode
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And not actually low elo

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@gritty trellis Does making a new account automatically mean it's in smurfQ?

gritty trellis
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Unless ur genuinely like silver-bronze

marble haven
terse geode
white ocean
harsh oriole
white ocean
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had a game w this dude named raneki

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hes chall peak

harsh oriole
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thats gonna be super rare considering the % of players drops alot the higher u go

white ocean
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on his opgg raneki acc he got stuck in low elo for a tiny bit and wanted to duoq to get out of it

harsh oriole
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most smurfs i see are only plat

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and howd u know hjes chally

white ocean
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actual smurfs ar ethe least i seen in smurfq

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raneki acc is chall peak then decayed

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and then he decayed his opgg raneki acc d3 73lp

harsh oriole
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i feel like 50% of smurf que is bought accs that are bad or new players

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40% is plat or below smurfs

white ocean
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higher %

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like 70% imo is just bought accs and elo inflated players and then like 20% smurfs -plat 10% smurfs above plat

harsh oriole
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elo inflated players?

white ocean
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the amount of poeple who buy an acc and abandon it if they lose a placement bc they can't climb after that is funny

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bought accs are very easy to climb on - elo inflated

harsh oriole
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i mean id do the same thing if i lose placements lmao

white ocean
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most people plateau a bit above their true rank then fall

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then hardstuck bc they never improve and then repeat

harsh oriole
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idk ive never liked smurf que for climbing

broken siren
white ocean
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but it's better for real players bc they don't have to deal with that and true smurfs as much

harsh oriole
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it reminds me of lan

white ocean
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you still get the occasional duoq boosting though

harsh oriole
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if u want duo q boosting go to d1

broken siren
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also u do know on accounts made for lp ur not gonna get in bronze unless u just did shit on placements which u usually will still get silver even if u 0-10 them amd silver will usually only take 1-4 games depending on how high u got ur norms mmr

white ocean
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abusing it until they can 😂

white ocean
harsh oriole
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win d1 duo q, dodge promos, repeat

broken siren
white ocean
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hand leveled then?

harsh oriole
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bought accs are silver 3ish mmr

broken siren
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bought accounts were botted accounts

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yes

white ocean
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its super weird with the beginning stuff

broken siren
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most lp accounts were hand leveled

white ocean
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my high plat normal mmr acc started in b3

harsh oriole
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lmao no they arent

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hand leveled doesnt exist

white ocean
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i hand level my accs

harsh oriole
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ur insane if u hand lvl accs

broken siren
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i hand level all mine

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ive had over 60 accounts

harsh oriole
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bro 80 hours vs 1$

broken siren
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i get banned alot

white ocean
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i can teach my new firends how to play and revsere boost the accs at the same time 🤷‍♂️

broken siren
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it isnt 80 hours lol

delicate prairie
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If you are anywhere above plat playing on a botted account is pointless since it gets banned

harsh oriole
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thats what i calculated way back

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without boosts

white ocean
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depends

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wins = more

broken siren
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depends my slowest i got was like 36

white ocean
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bot games xp drop off based on lvl

delicate prairie
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also people handlevel for the mmr

harsh oriole
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^ legit only reason i see doing it

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but idc about boosting my norms mmr super high for ranked

white ocean
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some people don't wanna spend more money on league but yeah ^

harsh oriole
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its like 1$ for an account

white ocean
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i hand lvl and buy a single skin on my accs usually

broken siren
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y pay money when i do free

harsh oriole
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because ur time is worth

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significantly more

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the time u spend playing one game is gonna get u multiple accounts at minimum wage let alone a real job

broken siren
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which site u work fore

white ocean
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the venezuelans man

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gotta keep their economy alive

harsh oriole
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lmao

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el salvador ftw

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they aboutta collapse

white ocean
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they actualy lvl accs down there lmao

harsh oriole
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no chance

white ocean
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got a homie in venezuela that used to do osrs stuff and said that they also do lol

harsh oriole
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i got my doubts on how profitable lol accounts can be for them

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vs any other game like osrs

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their ruling class prob bing chilling on gas prices

terse geode
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not smurfQ

normal bone
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omg people play osrs@white ocean

white ocean
normal bone
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osrs is fun

split cipher
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if they play kassadin with a name like "pain" "suffering" "despair" or anything like that then 99% chance they're a smurf

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and probably racist

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:DD

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Yeah well

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Most of us smurfs have some weird letters too

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Draven players are the real comedians

broken siren
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Draven users are a bane on society

acoustic cargo
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smurfs or real smurfs?

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smurfs have crazy nicknames maybe cuz they buy 30lvl acc, are crying a lot about how good they are, they are spamming pings to get help at lvl 1 on top or mid or bot, they are usually trashtalking after one your mistake, but they are quiet about their own, and they are playing heroes like Katarina, Yasuo, Zed, Lee Sin

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real smurfs are usually having normal nickname, they are trying to help and win, they are not showing on chat that they are smurfing

split cipher
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I don't think it matters what we call them

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Smurfs or real smurfs cause there are a lot of high elo challengers who also flame if you make one mistake and trash talk yet could outperform us both while running it

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Most people I've seen who had weird letters in lane etc ... were really good

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We can't just 100% judge on these factors

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Some might be good at helping and being "friendly" some might not and others can be both depending on how the game go and how the past games that was played went

acoustic cargo
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No no, this people are pretending to be smurf. I had a friend, he was a master tier player who created new acc to just have new one to play with his friends. He did not even said once on chat etc. That he is smurf, and he played normal heroes, like Xin Zhao and Hecarim, which are rarely seen as Smurf or boosters heroes

split cipher
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Oh okey

halcyon tree
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they wont say theyre smurfing but are under lvl 40 while pretty much 1v9ing against us

split cipher
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Basically hidden smurfs

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But it's obviously not

teal echo
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To sniff out smurfs you get really close to your monitor and then sniff it, smurfs have a really unique smell.

split cipher
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Hehe eksde

halcyon tree
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Of course I get those too

halcyon tree
white apex
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You have to put your nose close to the screen when it's loading

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And whiff really hard

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Smurfs smell a bit sweaty

split cipher
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Isn't it hardstuck lvl 500+ accounts in the same elo for months who sweat more in a chair than people in the gym?

white ocean
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like they'll have the high wr and everything but be so bad if they don't get played for or just have someone whos simply better fundamentally

acoustic cargo
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Yes