#Durability Patch Discussion

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plush silo
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ehh

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it depends on how u use his ult tbh

chilly quarry
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he isnt assasin tho

fathom tusk
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he's a scaling assassin fighter

sick tide
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bro i stg are tanks gonna benifit the most from this

fathom tusk
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he can kill everyone on ur team late with a good r

fathom tusk
plush silo
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scaling?
debatable

imo yone is very depedant on teamset up

fathom tusk
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no nerfs to tanks and indirect buffs with GW and pen nerfs

plush silo
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still gonna be doing half my hp

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with 2 brittles

fathom tusk
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ornn is gonna be giga broke

plush silo
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and having 5k hp

chilly quarry
fathom tusk
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tanks rely on % dmg

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and the durability shit means nothging for that

chilly quarry
fathom tusk
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ornn has like 34% max hp dmg in his kit or smth i forgot the exact number

sick tide
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Bro freaking

chilly quarry
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isnt sion gonna be even more broken

sick tide
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sejuani

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Leona

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every tank that exists

plush silo
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anyways

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when are they gonna force vayne into being a traditional adc that cna't build tank items

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after 2 as

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dude has 3k hp while doing half my hp with 3 autos

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

fathom tusk
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12-16 from w and brittle is 10-18

plush silo
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ornn is gonna be funny

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he's still gonna have the same bullshit damage

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while having neigh unkillable stats

warped flare
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vaynes always been building randuins bro

fathom tusk
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sion got gutted and doesn't have % dmg but he's gonna be unkillable now

plush silo
fathom tusk
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tank vaynes gonna be buffed

plush silo
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likke genuinely

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so dumb

warped flare
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nah

fathom tusk
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jinx will just be shit now bc they gutted her hp so that her hp will stay the same after patch

plush silo
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jinx would probably get some 200-300 hp + 100hp from bloodline

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late game

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so she'd have around 2100 + bt shield + enchanter support

fathom tusk
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if she can get to late game now

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๐Ÿคฃ

plush silo
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i mean

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she's decent in proplay and high elo because people draft comps to fit her

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but i'll admit she's pretty shit below diamond

fathom tusk
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her usefulness drops as ranks go up bc she relies heavily on passive resets

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once patch hits it'll either be her having to give lane more or she's going to be useless

chilly quarry
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@fathom tusk irelia yasuo yone mid gonna be even better

fathom tusk
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all healing nerfed and gw nerfed

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irelia will be the best of those i think

plush silo
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no

sick tide
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i mean at the same time there should also be regular buffs and nerfs right?

plush silo
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yone will be giga bad after patch probably

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๐Ÿ’€

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he's already struggling against most bruisers

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and he can't kill tanks either

fathom tusk
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yone doesn't have a problem doing dmg

chilly quarry
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yea i play her alot and feel like she will be rly good mid

plush silo
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no it's just that he can't duel properly unless ur dzukill

fathom tusk
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literally into poppy he can out trade her if he isn't horrible

plush silo
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???

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no??

chilly quarry
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i main her mid anyways so

plush silo
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yone literally cannot duel tanks

sick tide
plush silo
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you're tripping

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like

fathom tusk
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yone does repeat true dmg and max hp dmg on w

plush silo
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??...

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the true damgae is negated by damage and armor

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i mean

sick tide
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?

plush silo
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shields and armor + magic res

fathom tusk
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why do u think dzukill plays him top

plush silo
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no no

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the return damage is true so that it doesn't get negated by armor/mr for a second time

sick tide
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?

plush silo
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it's a damage amp

sick tide
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bro what are

plush silo
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not a true damage source

sick tide
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you talking about

plush silo
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he's talking about how yone has true damgae like camille or whatever

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but that's not the cast

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case*

sick tide
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true dmg is mitigated by shields and HP building

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not resistances

fathom tusk
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he meant

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as it's repeat

sick tide
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true dmg ignores ALL resistances

fathom tusk
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armor blocks out true dmg from his e

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less dmg done less to repeat

sick tide
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wait wha-

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oh

plush silo
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yeah

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if it wasn't true

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yone's thing would get mitigated by armor/mr twice

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which would be dumb lol

plush silo
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his W can't be used to duel tanks

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either

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he genuinely struggles in every tank matchup

fathom tusk
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lmao thats literally what it's for

plush silo
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no it's ther eto give him survivability

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๐Ÿ’€

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it's mostly a shield tool more than anything

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but ok

fathom tusk
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the % dmg part is to give him survive/

plush silo
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poke

fathom tusk
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11% hp dmg is for survive ๐Ÿคฃ

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its for tanks

plush silo
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ok even if that was the case

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yone has negative wr into every tank in game

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he literally cannot kill any tank post tabis

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ornn literally dumpsters him

chilly quarry
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what about yasuo?

plush silo
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sion can ignore him

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yasuo has armor pen

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on ult

chilly quarry
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i think he will benifit from this

plush silo
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yone doesn't

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uhh

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yasuo would probably drop in WR but be a popular pick still

fathom tusk
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yone does too much dmg for tanks to just ignore them

chilly quarry
fathom tusk
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just watched a yone in kr gm solo kill a poppy at lvl 4 when she had 20% more hp than him 50 vs 70%

plush silo
fathom tusk
plush silo
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๐Ÿ’€

fathom tusk
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its a buff to kit healers

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rengar and aatrox etc

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irelia

chilly quarry
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hmm alr

fathom tusk
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bruiser rengar may become the best again

plush silo
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the moment they get past tabis

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yone and yasuo stop doin damage to them

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because of their q counting as an auto

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๐Ÿ’€

fathom tusk
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if they get tabis

plush silo
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lane's pretty much hostage

fathom tusk
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he just spams w and doesn't interact that much ?

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bruisers counter yone not tanks

plush silo
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no?

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sion and ornn

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literally

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take massive dumps on him

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like ornn just doesn't die to yone

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because of how his W works

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he can outtrade yone

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outsustain

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the moemnt he get bramble vest tabis

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it's pretty much gg

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also frozen heart is an item ๐Ÿ‘

fathom tusk
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yone out scales them earlier in the game

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earlygame yone is a better fighter

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yone will always be a better fighter

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i've literally never struggled with tanks on that champ

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dzukill solokill sion at lvl 4 when sion has lvl adv and wave advantage
the tabis only work if they don't give the yone a lead and it still does nothing if yone just plays slow and pokes them down with w and his sustain

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theres a reason dzukill plays him top

fathom tusk
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you can't just avoid 11% hp dmg every time they want to step into wave/range