#Am I the only one who’s really worried about asol’s rework?

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unreal finch
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I don’t know Asol is so unique that there’s a high chance that riot will just gut him

fleet rose
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Already be gutted

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W changed what kill him

twin nymph
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Riot's average rank is bronze

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Literally monkies 👍 Get them out of my game bro. Idk why they have a hard on for ruining champions when they can just make new ones

covert briar
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if it makes him able to be played by a wider audience then it's generally a win

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he warps the game for your teammates and yourself in ways that arent great

rigid sinew
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literally not a single rework since and including akali has succeeded imo

haughty ether
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do not say riot brightmoon because he isn’t lead gameplay director lol

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fair majority of rioters who discuss balance/game design in posts etc are like plat+

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sounds like copium

twin nymph
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Flamed him 👌
The balance team does seem to be plat+ tho hauntlingHmmm

covert briar
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its more likely you encountered someone in art/music/whatever else over gameplay :)

haughty ether
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if they aren’t on balance team this means jackshit

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i played against a rioter who was obv not good at the game but he was a software engineer

surreal ravine
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why should you care it's not like you are earning anything through asol's well-being

lone star
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and the ones who talk about what they do at the company are gold in my experience the others don't chat

surreal ravine
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most of gold+ don't have time for the game being busy with actual work/school

haughty ether
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nobody has given me links and i had to look up riot employee twitters to see some are plat/dia elo

lone star
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this is from experience not a link

haughty ether
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ok so ur evidence is dogshit ty for telling me ur dogshit both in game and out of game

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xd

lone star
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lmao

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ur malding for 0 reason?

haughty ether
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not malding just sad that nobody is backing up their points

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and they are using their keyboard warrior skill to make up for it

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or lack thereof

lone star
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go do research then

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dont demand others to

haughty ether
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this is debating 101 so i’m gonna assume ur just trolling

lone star
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not debating

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i stated my opinion

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how dense are you?

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literally in what you just replied to it says in my experience ...

fleet rose
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Some rioter are diamond before join riot game

slow temple
slow temple
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But as far as I'm aware, the gameplay and balance team

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are generally high elo

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But they also have some low elos, to have a fair assessment between all ranks

fleet rose
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Lurk secretly In low elow fun fact

slow temple
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Who's Lurk?

fleet rose
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Rioter in low elow

pliant vector
slow temple
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Also the head position of balance is required to be dia+

fleet rose
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Should put higher standard

velvet warren
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i cannot imagine anything that'd happen to it that would be worse than what we're at right now. so nah. go crazy riot. just keep his model GOAT

pliant vector
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most are plat players

slow temple
haughty ether
haughty ether
pliant vector
haughty ether
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ok im gonna assume ur trolling in this thread

pliant vector
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?

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do you disagree or

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in what game is top 10% high elo

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none

haughty ether
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im just gonna say

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in na the average rank is s2/s3

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so anything above that can technically be considered high elo

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xd

pliant vector
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high elo isnt just above avg it has to be high

haughty ether
pliant vector
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?

haughty ether
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u are quantifying high elo in a biased way

pliant vector
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do you think the average silver player is tryharding to improve taking game serious

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etc

haughty ether
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bc ur coping or smth

pliant vector
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oh yes its cope to say silver 1 isnt high elo

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or what

haughty ether
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i am literally just using numbers

pliant vector
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and extrapolating incorrect conclusions

haughty ether
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while ur trying to add extra factors for some reason

pliant vector
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the extra factor of being above average not being the determining factor for being high elo

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ask any player what high elo means see if they tell you silver 1 is high elo

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literally no one will

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its obviously not

haughty ether
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u realize that people like to ego right

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so i’m gonna assume ur egoing too for… some reason

pliant vector
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so you think anyone who says silver 1 isnt high elo is just egoing

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?

haughty ether
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even tho i turbo doubt ur in the high elo u talk about

pliant vector
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i turbo doubt you seriously believe this for even 1 second

velvet warren
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101 IQ genius

nimble night
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im worried that the amount of time and effort people put into the champion, won't have their skills transferred into the rework and will have to begin by scratch again. Of course if they make him mechanically easier that would be a solution, but personally I want him to be the same high skill high reward space dragon he always was

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I have 80k m7 mastery points on him so i dont play him much but i play him enough where I feel my time with him has been wasted

pliant vector
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asol teaches you spacing which is useful on any champion

covert briar
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aurelion teaches you spacing on his terms. doesnt fully translate to other champions

bright meadow
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just scratch the old aurelion

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do an aatorx style rework

pliant vector
covert briar
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not saying it doesn't.

pliant vector
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it fully does

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if youre able to stay spaced at one range that translates to any champ

covert briar
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you simply cannot compare this to any other champion due to his passive and w.

pliant vector
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his passive and w are why he teaches you spacing not why the skill doesnt transfer

covert briar
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they teach spacing unique to him and only him. since it also impacts more than just the enemy champion.

pliant vector
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spacing always impacts more than the enemy champ, wtf are you talking about?

fleet rose
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Tell that to kayle player

velvet warren
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every champ has its own spacing though

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youll learn spacing subconciously no matter what you play

slow temple
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Aso's spacing is a lot more visual

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So there could be the argument that you are more easily able to understand spacing

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because of this

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tho idk if that will benefit you because it will teach players how to space or harm the player because they are reliant on a visual cue

lone star
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asol's spacing is very similar to classic spacing

pliant vector
pliant vector
velvet warren
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yeah but that's only his spacing. if his spacing somehow translates to everyone's spacing, i don't see why everyone else's spacing wouldn't translate to everyone else's. if anything asol's spacing probably is the least transferable considering you have a visual aid. the moment you step onto another character you suddenly dont have a literal visualization telling you where to be.

pliant vector
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Everyone else’s spacing does translate to everyone else’s it’s just that asol also teaches you spacing better than most any champ

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And you always have a visual aid if you spend literally 1 day learning to press range indicator key

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Which you should do anyway

velvet warren
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max range =/= effective range

pliant vector
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That applies for any champ including asol?

velvet warren
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yeah thats my point

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you dont have a convenient visualization on other champs

pliant vector
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Yes you do again if you press c

velvet warren
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bro you are running in circles rn

pliant vector
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You get a visualization on the same level

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How

velvet warren
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well i think aurelion W range is a bit closer to his ideal range than Jinx W is to hers

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and oh boy if you think auto attack range is the only one that matters

pliant vector
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Lol what do you think you should space along your w range as jinx rather than aa range

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Is that your take

velvet warren
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my take is that champion's ideal spacing isn't necessarily the maximum range of their auto attacks, yes.

haughty ether
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sht

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dropped my phone soz

slow temple
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I'm watching some hype asf LCS semis

haughty ether
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le pog

velvet warren
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but aurelions ideal spacing is pretty close to his W range

pliant vector
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In most instances you will want to space based on your aa range as jinx however

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Same for asol and passive/w

velvet warren
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well im sure aurelion mains will transfer this universal skill to other champs and climb then

pliant vector
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Yea should happen once they learn other champs than just asol

haughty ether
pliant vector
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That they main asol?

haughty ether
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are u just trashing because u lost to an asol main or

pliant vector
haughty ether
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ok bc it sounds like you’re being a cunt for no reason

pliant vector
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ok

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idc if someone wants to main asol