I Think i have a new off meta which seems viable | r/leagueoflegends | Page 1

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 1:58 PM

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for a little while i was thinking of trying a yorick off meta jungle build. eventually i unlocked the champ and jumped right into jungle without even learning top. my rune build is burst and damage focused aiming to engage fights and have an increased chance of winning as they go on. instead of flash i take ignite, as well as smite for jungle. im still working on items but it seems like divine sunderer is the most consistent to start. the way he plays is that he starts off jungle and as the game progresses he becomes more like a second split pushing top laner for your team. its still expiremental and can probably be adjusted and optimized, but seems very viable. the biggest problem is that its hard to trigger his passive to get minions from mobs. any input or advice would be appreciated

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 3:29 PM

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white nebula for a little while i was thinking of trying a yorick off meta jungle build. even...

putting yorick as the jungler goes against his inherent role as a lane splitpusher, since he'll be forced to take jungle camps which give less overall gold compared to minions and neutral objectives rather than being given freedom to splitpush lanes all game using ghouls and maidens (junglers should never be splitpushing lanes too far because they are meant to help get neutral objectives with their team)

it's a good powerfarming pick because ghouls help him clear, but otherwise he's just a standard immobile bruiser which other champs can do way better with 10x less effort (xin, j4, etc)

divine sunderer is fine as he likes sheen mythics, but you didn't say your runes

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 4:29 PM

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molten zinc putting yorick as the jungler goes against his inherent role as a lane splitpush...

The thing is, i actually get ridiculous amounts of gold with him. One game i had mythic before 9 minutes i think. Also, he can use his maiden to help his teammates push lanes while he gets objectives

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 4:51 PM

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white nebula The thing is, i actually get ridiculous amounts of gold with him. One game i had...

sounds like you just rolled over the enemy and outjungled the enemy

yes maiden can split alone but he is way stronger as a sololane pusher with her

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 4:57 PM

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Thats what im saying. He kinda rolls over people

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If youre good with the w then you can absolutely destroy botlaners in 1v1s

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 4:59 PM

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i meant like it sounds like enemy was bad at the game and you just outskilled them because you’re better jungler not better champ

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 4:59 PM

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Idk, he definetly feels viable as a jungler

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He plays very differently though

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:00 PM

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i mean it’s like putting someone like ornn in the jungle

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:00 PM

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His clear is also very quick

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:00 PM

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he can clear fairly well but thats kind of all he does

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yorick isnt the worst thing in the world but he kind of just exists

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:01 PM

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His clear is good early game, but after i get maybe 2 or 3 items i play more like a roaming toplaner

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:01 PM

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kayn yi etc are better farmers than him because they have stronger aoe clear tools

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and there are lots more gank champs that are scarier

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compared to yorick who just throws shit at you and traps you

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:02 PM

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Nah his ganks are great because not only does he get the slows plus the damage plus can easily tank turrets, but also he can quickly overwhelm with maiden

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I'm telling you man, he works

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:03 PM

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i didnt disagree i just said people don’t play it for a reason lol

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if you give him sololane gold he can open enemy base in 20 min

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:03 PM

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Im not good enough at the game to play optimally and figure out the perfect build. But i carried mutiple games with him

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:03 PM

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thats why he was uber broken semi recently

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there is no perfect build in league

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if you just follow most stat sites on what to build you’ll be mostly ok

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just dont build stupid shit like ap or crit unless you’re trolling

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:04 PM

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Thats what im saying, i went custom

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:05 PM

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i dont think you said what it was so i can’t really talk about it

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:05 PM

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Also for runes my main one was predator, then i switched to dark harvest. I dont remember the rest in the tree, for secondary i went precision.

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And for items it seems he starts best with sunderer, colossal hydra, and hullbreaker

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:06 PM

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seems like typical jungle runes because grasp is useless for jungler

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:06 PM

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When he has hydra 1v1 or 1v2 fights are easy

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:06 PM

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although buying hullbreaker as jungle is useless

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you shouldn’t be splitpushing as jungler

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you should be helping team

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:07 PM

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By that point im splitpushing

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:07 PM

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that isn’t your job

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as jungler

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:07 PM

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Leaving maiden down lanes

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Basically go in,break a turret, leave maiden, then go back to team

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:08 PM

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your hullbreaker still loses it passive

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which is like 95% the reason why you buy it

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:09 PM

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Like i said im still expirementing, but with hull you can push lanes without fear

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:09 PM

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leaving maiden to splitpush is ok i guess but buying hullbreaker and still helping stuff with team seems illogical

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:10 PM

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With hydra you dominate teamfights, but still susceptible when solo

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Hull is for that

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:10 PM

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yorick is already kind of a duelist god

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because he has maiden

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:10 PM

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Im talking about 1v3

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:10 PM

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why would you ever take that in the first place unless you’re 20/0

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and you’re full build and they have 2 items or some shit

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don’t go for stupid fight for reddit karma

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:11 PM

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I dont use reddit

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Brody

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Can you stop trashing on the build without trying jt

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I have less than 100 hours in league

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:12 PM

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im not trashing it i’m saying that going for 1v3 is a stupid idea and that’s basic league fundamentals

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:12 PM

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Im not perfect at the gane

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:13 PM

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i mean good for you theorycrafting for the first time i guess

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:13 PM

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Im talking about enemy ganks

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When they triple gank

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:13 PM

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but you need to be very realistic when theorycrafting

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:14 PM

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Realistically,ive played yorick jungle and have made it pretty good. Realistically, youre speculating and are overconfident in your knowledge of the game

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:15 PM

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??

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how am i overconfident lol

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:15 PM

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I keep saying the strengths of the build and you keep saying "okay, but thats all he can do" and i keep listing the other strengths

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Okay, but ornn has good clear too

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:15 PM

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you just sound mad because someone said that your off meta pick isn’t hidden op and that faker will be abusing it in lck

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:16 PM

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Okay,but all he does is push turrets

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:16 PM

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yorick has a super clear identity as a champ so why not just figure out ways to amplify his strengths

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rather than try to force him into a new position for… what?

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fun? go ahead but don’t be surprised if it sucks

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:17 PM

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Im telling you, one of his strengths is in the jungle

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Idk why i have to tell you this so many times

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:17 PM

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you can also clear the jungle as a toplaner

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like you invade the enemy jungle and take the camps

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and you’re still yorick

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:17 PM

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Oh ye my b,i forgot that its easy to spam gank bot when your toplane

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And mid

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:18 PM

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i can’t stop you so i don’t know why you’re still arguing instead of just playing the game to give results

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:18 PM

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I forgot thats its not op to have both a fed sett and a fed yorick on your team in endgame

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:18 PM

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but if it’s just typical silver stuff then it’s like “well no shit anything works in silver if you’re good enough”

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both champs are meh in lategame

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:18 PM

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What rank are you

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:18 PM

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when marksmen have all their items

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:18 PM

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Bronze 2

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?

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:19 PM

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the fuck you pointing at me for

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what does my rank have to do with this

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i don’t need to be diamond+ to understand how champs work

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:19 PM

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molten zinc but if it’s just typical silver stuff then it’s like “well no shit anything work...

🤓 'but if its just typical silver stuff'

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:19 PM

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ok ur just malding go ahead and play ur pick then if its so good

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lol

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:19 PM

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I do

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Thats my point

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Its good

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:20 PM

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ok cool

rugged crescent Mar 27, 2022, 5:20 PM

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op show opgg

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:20 PM

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its good until plat+ where it has 39 winrate with >400 games played

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on a month old patch

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:21 PM

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A guy got to diamond or something with akshan jungle and his build just barely worked. This works well and has whats necessary to be good in jg

rugged crescent Mar 27, 2022, 5:22 PM

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https://na.op.gg/summoners/na/Nainari
this you?

OP.GG

Nainari - Summoner Stats - League of Legends

Nainari / Iron 2 71LP / 39Win 49Lose Win Rate 44% / Amumu - 17Win 15Lose Win Rate 53%, Nocturne - 4Win 6Lose Win Rate 40%, Master Yi - 3Win 5Lose Win Rate 38%, Blitzcrank - 4Win 2Lose Win Rate 67%, Elise - 3Win 3Lose Win Rate 50%

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:22 PM

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ok so get to diamond with yorick jungle and then you’ll have more merit

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:23 PM

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rugged crescent https://na.op.gg/summoners/na/Nainari this you?

Ye i havent played a lot recently

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I peaked silver last season

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I would say i can probably get to mid gold atm

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With amumu

molten zinc Mar 27, 2022, 5:24 PM

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then do it?

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:25 PM

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white nebula Ye i havent played a lot recently

What part of this message is hard for you to read

rugged crescent Mar 27, 2022, 5:25 PM

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you have 90 games in iron and a negative winrate this season, junglers dont work as splitpushers because if the enemy has soneone to match your team is stuck 4v4 with no smite at objective

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id say 90 games is a lot

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i have 65 games this season and thats like my most played for it only being march

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:27 PM

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rugged crescent you have 90 games in iron and a negative winrate this season, junglers dont work...

Most of the games are draft not ranked

rugged crescent Mar 27, 2022, 5:28 PM

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yet 90 games in iron and this you can get gold that easy

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:28 PM

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Ye

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Even when i sucked i got to silver pretty easily with mumu

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Now i just play like i suck but dont actually suck

rugged crescent Mar 27, 2022, 5:29 PM

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you sure you didnt just get placed there at the start because its the slightly below average that most people who just start ranked at lvl 30 get?

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like you played 3 games that season???

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xd

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:29 PM

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rugged crescent you sure you didnt just get placed there at the start because its the slightly b...

Ye i started in iron

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I hate rank resets

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Also i soloqueue so it makes it harder

rugged crescent Mar 27, 2022, 5:30 PM

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i think that you belong in iron, not silver
im unsure how you got a silver rank when you were not done with provisionals

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:32 PM

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rugged crescent i think that you belong in iron, not silver im unsure how you got a silver rank ...

Im telling you again,i easily got silver with mumu last season

rugged crescent Mar 27, 2022, 5:32 PM

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gl improving and play what is fun, thats my final tip

white nebula Mar 27, 2022, 5:32 PM

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I just stoppes playing mumu as much becuase it was very one dimensional

radiant pelican Mar 29, 2022, 2:20 PM

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molten zinc putting yorick as the jungler goes against his inherent role as a lane splitpush...

Wanna hear something cool about yorick

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It's more accurate to label him as an objective destroyer, not a tower pusher

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Because he not only destroys towers but also any objective like baron or drake

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and also farms incredibly well

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Here's another cool thing

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You can actually splitpush, without having to split up

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you can either drop ghouls for more frequent lane shoves, or you can release the maiden for a coordinated long lasting push that can threaten towers if uncontested

molten zinc Mar 29, 2022, 2:30 PM

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radiant pelican you can either drop ghouls for more frequent lane shoves, or you can release the...

isnt this shit still bugged

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something something maiden turret aggro priority something something

radiant pelican Mar 29, 2022, 2:33 PM

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molten zinc isnt this shit still bugged

Hmm in what way

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The ghoul dropping?

molten zinc Mar 29, 2022, 2:45 PM

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radiant pelican The ghoul dropping?

maiden would have higher priority than supers/cannons (forgot which) and be targeted first so she couldn’t splitpush alone

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cuz she just dies

radiant pelican Mar 29, 2022, 10:07 PM

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molten zinc maiden would have higher priority than supers/cannons (forgot which) and be targ...

Oh nah

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I don't recall ever experiencing this

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Currently she gets targeted after every minion dies

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Which has its ups and downs

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Mostly ups though

white nebula Mar 30, 2022, 12:29 AM

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radiant pelican Because he not only destroys towers but also any objective like baron or drake

thats something i forgot to mention. farming dragons is very quick

shell moth Mar 30, 2022, 4:02 PM

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Go for it, I think the Yorick jgl otp was hardstuck Dia

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last time I checked

radiant pelican Mar 30, 2022, 4:11 PM

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shell moth Go for it, I think the Yorick jgl otp was hardstuck Dia

yea jg yorick has been dogshit for like 3 years

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i know the guy

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riot has shifted yorick heavily to top

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and let's not forget the jg meta is beyond awful

hollow tusk Mar 30, 2022, 7:29 PM

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white nebula for a little while i was thinking of trying a yorick off meta jungle build. even...

ok so we gotta look at the elephant in the room here - provenance; how many games have you played with yorick jungle currently, in what elo and in what mode?

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its all happy jolly saying ''yeah guys i made xyz pick work'' but if ur playing in bronze normals and u have played 5 games where you had a winning team every game it doesnt really say much

radiant pelican Mar 30, 2022, 8:08 PM

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Nobody should be trying to convince people jg Yorick is good

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It's long dead

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Last time it was good was s8

#I Think i have a new off meta which seems viable