#Aram Assassin/AD-Caster Items

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soft sage
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Lot of useless stats for almost every champ (there are a few that can use both AD and AP well, but for those, the crit is generally still a dead stat).

grim thorn
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So it is. But you cannot deny the fact that getting executes with the Liandry's burn through Collector is very strong. That added to the max health damage is still quite powerful. After all Liandry's gives a lot of HP too.

grim thorn
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What is?

soft sage
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liandry's burn leading to collector executes

grim thorn
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yep

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It's especially strong on champs like Kha'Zix who can literally bully from far away and then just hop out of danger even more

soft sage
grim thorn
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it isnt really

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W scales on AP

soft sage
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He has one 50% AP ratio on W heal (which only applies when you're in melee range of a target W hits), that's it. dead af stat on him

grim thorn
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that is true, but liandrys also gives hp and cdr (i think)

soft sage
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meanwhile, AD makes P do more dmg, Q do more dmg, W do more dmg, E do more dmg, basic attack do more dmg....

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Example of a champ that can actually build these 2 without it being totally deadweight would be Jax

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(not saying it's good), but he at least has 2 solid AP ratios and good AD scalings as well

grim thorn
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Jax would be total deadweight because he only has melee

soft sage
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his problem would be lack of tankiness at 2 items, the build wouldn't lack for damage though

grim thorn
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yup

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and in aram you get oneshot

soft sage
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melee in ARAM especially has to lean towards being tanky

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there aren't really any champs with good hybrid scaling and good ranged harass that I can think of

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which is why you almost never see those 2 items together

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Maybe Varus could do it? (he really wants AS though)

grim thorn
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i actually do this combo a lot and it works. i dont build liandrys for the AP but for the max health dmg

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its really good in aram where everyone and their mom gets a lot of hp

soft sage
grim thorn
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not really

soft sage
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BotRK is still a good item, just not gigabusted anymore

grim thorn
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it's for poking with abilities

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got a penta with corki today with that combo into crit btw

soft sage
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crit was what did 90% of the work

grim thorn
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nah, wouldnt have gotten the lasthits without it XD

soft sage
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like Liandry's was basically 300 hp and the passives for the full item price

grim thorn
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and thats worth it

soft sage
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replace liandry's w/ another AD item and you just kill them all anyways

grim thorn
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have you ever actually tried that build? XD

soft sage
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it's just math on damage scaling for the champ in question (Corki)

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even with his Q and W dmg having decent AP scaling, AD would do more here.

grim thorn
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corki E AOE :^)

soft sage
grim thorn
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talking about hitting the enemy team with e for a sec and then running away

soft sage
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240% bAD in total over duration too

grim thorn
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aaaanddd

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ever had a kill stolen by a person who can't do nothing with the gold? not gonna happen with this one unless they REALLY try.

soft sage
grim thorn
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yes, but again, not always.

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btw found another point for liandry's

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if ur useless to ur team (bad game or sum) you can at least poke the enemies into submission

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anyway, im gonna play aram with liandry's on an assassin now :)