#Excuses
sour sedge
high cove
Another thing is, in general, I don't think anything can be an immediate fix to lol esports preschool behaviour on a whole. I think 75% of the fanabse are grown children who can't seem to handle much cognitive growth. But I do think pointing out the behaviour makes a slow difference, since these people do care about their image and how they look with a stance. They tend to want to appear reasonable or unbiased because to them nothing is better that peer approval (like the people who start out with "I don't dislike Faker, but ..." then has a million messages calling him overrated, dogshit, or asking him to retire).
When will we stop turning a blind eye to fucked up biases or odd inconsistencies because we are scared to speak out against the aggressive vocal few?
civic lichen
Some people on lolesports makes me think they've never competed for anything in their lives
high cove
It does show to be fair
civic lichen
And some perhaps never paid attention to traditional sport
Before getting into lolesports
Because most principals are the same
high cove
I think some ppl do pay attention to traditional sport, but tend to not want to associate those concepts to league
upbeat wyvern
I mean isnt internet culture at this point in time just pre-school behavior?
I think attaching any importance or validity to any messages sent on social media ultimately will just make you miserable,
civic lichen
And you also have people who are out there to just see you burn and will say anything to get under your skin
wanton iris
David Denis
high cove
I mean isnt internet culture at this point in time just pre-school behavior?
I t...
i understand the internet can be cringe, but doesn't this apply to everyone then? Why do people care so much about t1 fans and become haters then?
why do people all of a sudden want to rise above the rabble an say stuff like this? and then in the same breath get bothered by stuff that is said on the internet
should the person pushing this narrative that she is miserable on the internet yet is still here because they have no more goal posts to move be a total buddha at this rate
how much ass can one eat to be this blindsighted in a take?
high cove
And you also have people who are out there to just see you burn and will say an...
there will always be people like that but do we just sit and say its normal and dont have a view? as far as im concerned the bias is always there to say well damn that person is messed up, or that action was not ok. I understand you dont need to take EVERY ACTION seriously but do we blissfully ignore everything for the perfect utopia
upbeat wyvern
i understand the internet can be cringe, but doesn't this apply to everyone then...
no one who is part of the lol community hates faker imo, becuz there is simply no reason to. He is a chill dude who loves league of legends and has won a lot, earning him a large following. Its easy to piss off and bait some fans, which mostly happens in this discord.
imo most of the "T1 haters" in this discord are people who just want to see someone else win . thats my take
high cove
no one who is part of the lol community hates faker imo, becuz there is simply n...
next up, no one dislikes fudge
or inspired
they just want to see someone else win
i forgot ppl will say anything to try to skate over the obvious
if you want to see someone else win cheer them on, hope for that in your heart, y find time to side swipe?
repeatedly
i can literally pick apart that entire chatpt paragraph of nonsene with just a few screenshots, sure ppl can go back and delete messages but there is more than enough evidence that what you said is a load of shit. if you dont mind the guy, leave him be, cheer on your chovy or caps. however, instead of taking up that almost amusing mantle, i will go back to my actual topic, so we dont move the goal posts again. Why are people so bothered by t1 fans then? you replied with an entire paragraph, but didnt even answer the question about the utopian view
dusty cloud
You bring up some valid arguments but here is my counter point.
Shaker maker wrist excuses
I rest my case
high cove
much better than the whatever he said above
started out with the argumeent of leave the internet if it is too hot, couldnt answer y ppl get hot and bothered by t1 fans
in the end, its probably a waste of my time
so i will take your counter point
dusty cloud
started out with the argumeent of leave the internet if it is too hot, couldnt a...
I mean I can tell you why i felt that way for some time
It was mainly because i hate fanatics
high cove
I mean I can tell you why i felt that way for some time
so why are you still on the internet then?
dusty cloud
And since t1 has the biggest fanbase it was and still is very common to see t1 fanatics, thats why I grew bitter towarda them
dusty cloud
so why are you still on the internet then?
Because there's still many people on the internet i like talking to
dusty cloud
And since t1 has the biggest fanbase it was and still is very common to see t1 f...
Although to be fair this applies to many fanbases
Even GenG
high cove
Because there's still many people on the internet i like talking to
because there are logical and sane no? not all of them are excuse driven goal post movers?
dusty cloud
The bigger the fanbase is the more those types of ppl show up
high cove
The bigger the fanbase is the more those types of ppl show up
and i assume you under stand that and made peace with that, yes?
dusty cloud
and i assume you under stand that and made peace with that, yes?
Yeah pretty much
I dont specifically hate T1 fans, i just hate fanatics
high cove
Yeah pretty much
but you still feel bitter about fanatics even tho you made peace that you will see them all the time
because you are indeed human, no?
dusty cloud
but you still feel bitter about fanatics even tho you made peace that you will s...
Correct
Although knowing that they exist and they are pretty much inevitable makes me feel less tilted when I see them
Like I hate them less now than i used to
Since I've seen them so many times already
high cove
which is very reasonable
that is the natural order of things
but there are times you will ask why, no?
dusty cloud
but there are times you will ask why, no?
Why what?
dusty cloud
why are they so weird
I mean I have never asked them why
But i have asked myself that question
And tbh im not sure
dusty cloud
Unconsciously yes
high cove
cuz this is the topic at hand, the ninja warriors hivemnind trained to say she is a dumbass wont distract me from the obvvious
thee is a reason i have certain ppl blocked
dusty cloud
They are trying to sound unbiased but in reality their takes defending t1 sound biased since they are t1 fans
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing
I do that too sometimes
high cove
trying to sound unbiased
high cove
ok whats an example
high cove
But being biased
wild ppl can notice this about t1 fans but not g2 fans
or a certain one in particular
dusty cloud
wild ppl can notice this about t1 fans but not g2 fans
Its not just t1
G2 fans 100% do it
high cove
so most fanbases do it is what i am gathering
dusty cloud
Yes
dusty cloud
ok whats an example
Let me give you one
high cove
y do t1 get crucified for it, its not even a meme like fnc pause, or something cute like claps and craps
dusty cloud
Imagine t1 loses a series 3-0.
A t1 hater usually will just shit on and laugh at t1, and call certain players shit, etc.
A neutral fan usually praises the team that won and tries to point out the mistakes some players from t1 made.
T1 fans usually try to blame the loss on external things, like ddos attacks, not having enough time to adapt to the new meta, faker's wrist, etc.
And this happens with most fanbases
From all sports
And esports
high cove
Imagine t1 loses a series 3-0.
A t1 hater usually will just shit on and laugh at...
if chovy threw up on stage, and went back to play a few minutes later
what would you say
high cove
ok say he lost 0-3 what would be the narrative
dont ppl think the dislike for t1 is swaying their bias a tad too much to say anyting is an excuse
t1 is literally probably to scared to annouce any new issues because ppl will scream excuses
dusty cloud
Excuses don't have to be fake, they can be pretty real. For instance i do think faker's wrist injury played a role in his performance
But i know others will call that a loser's excuse
Even if the excuse is fair
dusty cloud
It bothers t1 haters
dusty cloud
It doesn't bother me
high cove
fair
dusty cloud
Because they are fair excuses
high cove
like everyone else, i do feel crazy ppl can be off putting
im not a huge fan of some of the weird t1 fans
BUT
just like here, i went to ask them y are they so weird
upbeat wyvern
i can literally pick apart that entire chatpt paragraph of nonsene with just a f...
shit mb, I didnt get your question the first time lemme try again.
why are people bothered by T1 fans?
only possible reasons that come to my mind are: The whole deal with the trucks, obnoxious hardcore fans , and the fact that T1 has had some problems lately which some people see as excuses (even tho they are valid)
civic lichen
wild ppl can notice this about t1 fans but not g2 fans
Hi g2 fan coming in, just came here to see t1 fans and t1 sucks for no fucking reason. Have a nice day 👋