What if they were released in 2023?

[grave burrow]

Let's say every champion before 2015, were to be released in 2023 what kit would they have.
https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_champions
Can look at this and order in by release date to see which champions were released before 2015.

[south orbit]

i think about this a lot because of their extremely overloaded random additions to champs

[twin marten]

Just gave me a realization that 2017 was the reason champions were getting overloaded with kits and it started off with Kayn

[lime sigil]

Garen was released 2010 so 2017 def wasnt the start

[south orbit]

id say 2020 and after has the worst but its been since release pretty much right

i imagine trynda would have smth like his crit over the cap gives him more healing or a shield while its over the limit

blitz would not slow himself of course and have a second effect on R or an extra passive somewhere with cd reduction

maybe an R reset from E knock up smth dumb theyd do to reward random plays

how about blitz R refunds 33% of his cds per champion hit and if it last hits anything he gains AP infinitely stacking

he gets attack speed from W, every auto with the W buff gives stacking move speed and increased duration

[late matrix]

Are they going to be as op as released or no?

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2yngmr/top_5_most_op_champions_on_release/

[grave burrow]

yeh

just overloaded kit, op on release

[solemn torrent]

pyke 2023 would go hard ngl

[snow peak]

2023 orianna would be so giga broken

2023 talon, 2023 zilean, 2023 karma etc

[mellow scarab]

This is a dream that us Pyke players only experienced when he could double up on gold, and could actually kill minions with his E.

[dapper glade]

Why do I feel like yasuo would be the exact same

[primal chasm]

Lots of older champs have less extras in part because their kits are mechanically better. Like look at how well Renekton or Orianna's kits work and compare them to any modern design of a similar archetype and the modern designs are mechanically janky and held together by having enough freebies (or sometimes oppressively strong numbers) to make a champion that actually works. I wish we got more designs like we did in the first 4-5 seasons of LoL. They're better and more fun to play, not that many modern LoL champion designs have maintained steady popularity unlike a lot of the older designs and I think that speaks volumes to how much better the old designs are.

[south orbit]

imo new ones are more fun because there are more ways to play them

[late matrix]

^ new champs are more fun fs

[primal chasm]

Naw he'd probably be more like release Yasuo (which was actually disgustingly broken but no one really knew how to play him well, for probably a full year or so).

Which new champs are you guys enjoying? Because I've tried them all sans Hwei who arrived like yesterday and I tend to still prefer older designs.

[south orbit]

he would have true dmg on R or passive crits after 200% crit rate

[primal chasm]

Yasuo already gets 50% bonus armor pen after he ults on his crits (which is all autos+Qs at 2 items+)

[late matrix]

I been really having fun with Briar, Zeri and Gwen from the last two years

[south orbit]

havent played milio or hwei yet but
ksante, viego, akshan, gwen, yone, briar, samira, nilah, zeri, renata, sett, aphelios, pyke, ornn, kayn

maybe not all classify as new but i do like most newer champs

[late matrix]

hwei is p fun, milio is okay

[primal chasm]

I'll admit some of those are pretty fun to play

[late matrix]

His (Milio) aesthetics are very niche

[late matrix]

agreed a lot of new champs, just feel so unique and interesting

[south orbit]

yeah i need more engagement my brains too far gone already i used to play ow

[snow peak]

Hwei is fun until you have one of his many many bad lanes :l

I still don't understand why they gave him 11 nerfs on release when he was only 'strong' because of pbe items and was weak without those items.

[fickle lake]

If zilian was released Today. His Ult would be a basic ability.
Cough cough renata

Jk.

But yah riven would deal %max hp damage On Q.

Kog maw will have on hit true damage, on top of his W % max hp magic

[south orbit]

true dmg on R2

[fickle lake]

Naw.
True damage on passive

[solemn torrent]

2023 Garen 🔥

[twin marten]

Old Garen used to do Magic Damage with his R while scaling depending on the opponents missing HP.

So you could say current Garen is 2023 lmfao

You could literally build Hexdrinker and Garen's R would be useless

[solemn torrent]

didnt he have an indicator telling if his R would execute though

[low hazel]

Honestly why is this removed? Cuz darius also doesn't have it or what

Being hit by both will kill you anyways

[lime sigil]

it basically is

its like 18s cd lategame 😭

[torpid ivy]

all i can say is

jax 2023