Not ranting, genuinely trying to optimize play to rank up. Long one. :)

[bitter elbow]

Well some games are actually unwinnable unless your actual skill level is way above your rank(smurfing). You just gotta accept it.

But I'm guessing that you lost becuase of bad decision making and team fights in the late game

[west urchin]

maybe. i took down the squishy veigar in the late game a lot, then hopped back in and took down the nunu, but even with that advantage, me dying after that mustve just been too detrimental to our teams power balance or smth and we lost those last few fights

[bitter elbow]

And well porofessor's player stats are kinda bs, I'm a diamond player and it says I have challenger level stats but I get gapped by masters every time.

[west urchin]

haha yeah

i feel like its more of a "get S+" than a "get better" kind of tool

thanks though. i was just really upset about that match. anything i couldve done in those last few teamfights? i died only 3 times, and all 3 times were in late game after taking out at least someone.

[west urchin]

would it have been better to value my life above 1 or 2 people and stick around until maybe i could clean up or defend?

[bitter elbow]

The worst thing you can do when you have a huge bounty on your head is dying to the enemy

[west urchin]

i somehow was that fed but managed to never get above a 400g bounty haha
but yeah

idk how it was possible but i was... 5 kills in and only had 300g as far as i remember, which i didnt know was possible

[bitter elbow]

Did you not prioritise jinx?

[west urchin]

her rakan was very obnoxious. i managed to get her flash a lot, but only caught her alone once. i tried my best is the best answer ig

[bitter elbow]

Set up vision in the enemy Jg if you have a lead, low elo tends to face check bushes all the time

[west urchin]

i got a super early full blue smite, so i think that wouldve been extremely smart and helpful

[bitter elbow]

And you just look for flanks as ekko, not go in face first into a team fight

Maybe wait until rakan engages then you'll have an angle to kill jinx

[west urchin]

okay

thanks man.

[bitter elbow]

I'm assuming that you go in after her when rakan has all spells beside her?

[west urchin]

i went in when fiora did, where nunu, veigar, and trundle focused her, and rakan would stay with her over going in with trundle, so it made it very tricky. so yes

do you play ekko frequently?

[bitter elbow]

No, I play adc and sp

But I have some games on him tho

[west urchin]

oh okay. because his first strike build has all of a sudden been doing NOTHING, like truly horrid, and idk if i should go with elec or dh. both feel nice, elec scales better even into late game, but dh has huge multi-kill potential. plus one might be better for low elo

[bitter elbow]

Dh is better than electricute for jg

[west urchin]

alright

[bitter elbow]

You can proc dh multiple times in a teamfight, electricute is generally for laning because of trades

[pine anchor]

What was your tower damage?

That's one of the best hidden metrics to look to increase to get more wins out of games.

[west urchin]

1330, says its better than avg bronze 😭

[pine anchor]

I often get like 5k+ when I get a lead

[west urchin]

oh ok

[pine anchor]

Maybe average game it's more like 2k and this is gold MMR btw

[west urchin]

so if i have spare time and no pressure in a lane hitting turret is over farming or recall?

late game ekko does like 70% tower health with e so

[pine anchor]

Remember, in order to win a game of LoL, your team must destroy 3 towers in 1 lane+an inhibitor+2 nexus towers+nexus itself.

[west urchin]

true

does that extend to rift herald being really important as well then?

[pine anchor]

You probably need to push lanes more and actually try to take towers if they don't rotate to stop you (or even if they do if you can take the fight)

Rift is more valuable than dragon early if you use it well.

[west urchin]

okay. ill definitely note that

[pine anchor]

Given the timers you can usually get all the objectives if you take advantage of the windows when only 1 is on the battlefield (not always possible but often you can if you abuse jungle tracking)

[west urchin]

alright. sometimes ordering your team like that is a setback to speed on objectives. should i keep prio on warding? for example, this game, i had double visionscore of everyone on map besides enemy support. is that a thing i need to worry about as much as i do rn

[bitter elbow]

Well, generally you don't wanna split push as a jgler

Unless there are no objectives

[bitter elbow]

Low elo tends to aram mid all the time, you just ping them to not fight and you go to a side lane and start pushing

[west urchin]

alr

[bitter elbow]

Be sure to look at the map when split pushing

[pine anchor]

I disagree, especially in lower elos, it's basically free money, no one understands the power of sidelane pressure in bronze.

[bitter elbow]

You should stop when 3 or more enemy players are out of vision

[bitter elbow]

I know yea, but not when dragon or baron is spawning

[pine anchor]

split pushing on nearside to the obj is fine as long you have vision around the obj set up (and hopefully your allies are moving into the area)

[bitter elbow]

Assuming your sp knows how to set up vision, or it could end really badly by you getting caught and losing the objective

[pine anchor]

You can ward your own flank with the wards you got, but it's true the support needs to be helping out most likely, the bigger point I was after is that your response time to the obj is short if you're pushing the nearby sidelane, which is acceptable practice for a jungler in the late game (obviously being far away would be a massive macro mistake in most cases, unless you're running teleport as a jungler (who does that....).

[bitter elbow]

Some master yi player trying to get a pentakill across the map with tp smite 💀

[bitter elbow]

Just buy a control ward every time you have extra gold and you'll be fine