genuine tips for getting out of bronze/silver

[woven jolt]

just play riven lol

even if you play her as a brainless monkey you'll still beat most toplaners from bronze

then splitpush and win

[small sedge]

Okay but what if this person actually wants to learn

Getting out from silver playing brainless is just meh af

[small sedge]

Skillcapped and those kind of videos can actually get u to diamond if u just master the tips and fundamentals they give.

[fervent star]

If you're an actual bronze/silver player trying to play Riven won't get you anywhere as she's too hard to grasp

[quasi moth]

I don't think she's actually all that hard to figure out, and plenty of silver players actually have decent mechanics they just lack more general game knowledge and their macro is frequently terrible.

[fervent star]

Riven is basically all matchup knowledge because of her lack of sustain making her trades have to be very good

That's why people struggle on her so much, it's not so much the pure mechanical portion it's just being able to be actually useful and win lane on the champ when people play semi properly

[small sedge]

Does she really have a lack of sustain tho

[fervent star]

0 sustain in her kit apart from her e shield. Its been said she's recieving buffs soon to try and help this out

[twilit bough]

Less focus on the rank, and more on your gameplay.

Micro and Macro

Are you playing your top 2-3 best champions? Are your mechanics decent, do you feel confident?

Macro wise, are you making decisions that can swing the tide of the game to your favor?

Are you missing your objective timings? Are you using your summoner spells and ultimate before the dragon spawns in like 40 seconds?

Do you know the lane state and how that works?

Are you constantly extending teamfights?

[woven jolt]

um 🤓 before you ask 🤓 micro is knowing the ingame numbers such as damage and cooldowns and macro is gameplay

sorry for being that guy

[twilit bough]

Macro is big decisions of gameplay

Micro is your individual things

Stick with 2-3 champions and play that constantly and you’ll get better and better

Lots of teams will waste time when a Baron play is clearly an answer

3k gold advantage with a Baron

When you account for tier 2 towers

Gold = damage, more damage = more killing

Always watch the map and be aware of what is the next play.

Stick closer to your team as the game progresses on, as they are likely to get into a dumb skirmish and you can probably clean up and end. Especially silver elo.

When you are leading, snowball the lead, take the enemy jungle camps, push lanes, setup flank angles, give the enemy no room to breathe.

Clear vision as well if you can

Setup a pick, I guarantee you, silver players will walk in their jungle to face check. Just play patiently and get them there and look to end

Sooo many tips, just play and review ur games

And see what areas you lack in and what caused you to think that way in the moment

Remember not every decision we make is the right one. We ultimately determine the outcome of the games. It’s not teammate’s fault especially in low elo.

[tight ermine]

Plenty of free resources on the web. Check the videos out then practice applying what you’re seeing into your own gameplay

[quasi moth]

I mean, her E is an incredible mitigation tool if you have a brain and use it for such.

[twilit bough]

my advice is to pick 2 lanes and 3-4 heroes and learn the shit out of them, ive seen alot of new players playing whatever hero they feel like even if they havent touched them before so make sure you learn what hero your playing before you use them in ranked

[left vortex]

If your entire goal is to get out of Bronze/Silver, dont focus on anything else besides champion mechanics. Macro play doesnt matter until Emerald. Youre just overworking yourself from getting the rank you desire.

However, since you do have a tag that says support, its going to be much harder to impact the game. Most players in low elo will most likely not capitalize your play correctly if you are aggro support or they just dont know what they are doing if youre playing enchanter. So its pretty much a lose lose situation. But, majority of low elo players tilt pretty easily, so try to learn snowball supports like Blitzcrank, Naut, Pyke, etc. If you as a player can hit hooks, more likely you will win the game.

[fervent star]

You have to always use it well is the point

Most toplaners have some kind of innate sustain in their kit which riven doesn't.

[quasi moth]

Honestly it's almost guaranteed to give value if you use it while fighting instead of as a gap closer (noob Riven mistake #1)

[fervent star]

My guy idk why you're trying to just excuse her lack of innate sustain, unless you're using riven e perfectly every single time it's not a good ability to give you that much value thats why rivens have such a hard time in higher elo if they aren't otps

It's literally going to be addressed by riot and people like Alois have brought it up too, but riven is being overbuffed he thinks as well.

[woven jolt]

Play Garen top and that's it.

[twilit bough]

play jungle, duoq with a smurf

season 13 is phreak szn

[fervent star]

nah man you shouldn't be able to carry while smurfing as a jgler because jg shouldn't have any impact

[twilit bough]

lose 3 games in a row to ranged top

[quasi moth]

It's on a pretty short CD (10-6 based on rank base CD on a champ that loves to build AH), and it easily shields 100+ dmg early game if you use it while fighting someone. Like that's more effective hp saved than many champs get from their built in sustain. Like I routinely managed to tank a lot of damage on her with excellent self-mitigated while dishing plenty in return and I'm not even a Riven otp, just decent with the champ. This doesn't even get into how well she utilizes sustain from systems and items (she loves the sustain from Conqueror, and uses Omnivamp extremely well, and her passive makes lifesteal decent on her too since it's bonus physical damage and thus applies lifesteal.

[twilit bough]

Why hasn't this thread been deleted yet? OP literally deleted his msg

[mellow wyvern]

this is easily the most useless thing ive ever read in my life

"if you wanna get out of an elo where people are generally bad at the game just play one of the hardest champs in the game it'll surely work good"

[woven jolt]

coming from a support player that reaction doesnt surprise me

[mellow wyvern]

oh damn i feel fronted now

[woven jolt]

[mellow wyvern]

well said support player is surely alot better at coaching if your #1 advice is people playing riven

[limpid folio]

yes until you mster her mechanics. my buddy is a gold player and everyone thinks hes smurfing on her due ot hte fact he usually carries most matchup in gold/silver. (he mained her since season 3)

[fervent star]

why the homie still in gold then

[quasi moth]

I disagree with her being one of the hardest, she's medium hard at most, people like Yasuo are harder to play well on than her.

[mellow wyvern]

never said the hardest, just one of them

i would never recommend yasuo to a bronzie either 😄

but im pretty sure she makes my top 5 on top lane in terms of hardest to play

[limpid folio]

he doesnt play often and shes not the easiest 1v5 champ to carry with

[quasi moth]

might be true if we are asking how hard to play her to max potential, but she is also quite forgiving, you can be far from optimal and still do pretty well.

[mellow wyvern]

i mean im just saying i dont see myself ever recommending shit like riven to a newb if i could just tell them to play malphite or nasus

which they 100% gonna do better on

[fervent star]

riven is one of the best carry champs

[glossy basin]

I'm going to go against the grain here and tell you to get better at the game, instead of cheesing a champion which noob stomps. To win in bronze/silver you don't need to make plays. You need to stop making big mistakes and let the enemy team do poorly and hand you a win. learn to CS, play safe, always check map, and back when you need to.

People in bronze/silver are awful at CSing.. learning to cs very well will put you at a certain gold lead. It might sound silly, but if you don't cs well, go practice in coop/practice mode. The time invested here will heavily pay off in ranked games.

Before you try going in all the time, first learn how to disengage, then learn when small trades are in your favour, then learn judge whether you can kill them in an engage before you go in. Point is that you need know how to survive before you learn how to kill. You will find the poeple in bronze/silver can't do this so they will throw their lives trying to all in for no reason.

Keep a constant eye on the map. Ask yourself this at all times, do you know where the enemy jungler is? If you have been checking the map and you don't know, then play as if the jungler is about to gank you. If you see the jungler elsewhere, you are free to do what you want. Bronze/silver are oblivious about the jungler and map, so they will die when your jungler ganks but you won't die from ganks.

Learn to make good calls on when to back. This is fairly complicated, so I won't try to explain it in short, but getting an item spike is one of the good reasons to go back. Make sure the wave is in a good state before you back. If it's under your tower, then just safely farm. If you have pushed it far, then feel free to back. This is just a general guide, not necessarily the ideal way at all.

Master the very fundamentals instead of trying to do advance stuff. If the foundation isn't mastered, you will just plateau if you even climb at all.

It will feel boring at first.. very boring.. just farming, playing safe, looking at map all the time, and waiting for item spikes or reheal to back when the wave isn't under your tower. If you do this, you'll win without realising how. You'll learn the foundations to build upon and once you have, you'll feel comfortable in doing more whilst doing all this. At this point you will be in a much higher elo playing against better players, and you'll get a better feel of the game.

Oh wait.. you're a support main like me.. not a bot/mid/top... sigh..

It does depend on whether your an engage/mage/enchanter supp. I can't be bothered writing up a lot again but I'll say this. Still make sure you keep in mind whether you know where the enemy jungler is, back with your adc, and don't push when you have no more wards.

[quasi moth]

some actual good advice, 95% of success in LoL is your decision making.

[mellow wyvern]

💯

[twilit bough]

One trick some mid laner

[fresh dock]

zilean is low key op