Hardstuck

[calm wind]

so i recently demoted to iron 1 i have been stuck i low bronze 4 for quite some time and i really wanna push out of it any tips ?https://u.gg/lol/profile/euw1/milfmalker/overview

[vivid wharf]

Stick to 1 role and play 2-3 champs at a maximum

[calm wind]

im playing jungle and top atm

[vivid wharf]

I'd say just play top, you have to think about less and is the better of the two for trying to learn

[calm wind]

ight

[wispy magnet]

Play 1 role and 1-3 champions that you like

Cause I see your champ pool scattered across 5 roles

And as a bonus play simple champions

[torn junco]

What the others said. Chose a role, master max 5 champs (banns happen)

[knotty needle]

Learn your fundamentals, that shit will get you to gold alone

Get your CS to 10/min and you’ll be in silver in no time.

[torn junco]

Learn warding like fr these laners never fckin ward

and then they die and cry bc they got ganked which could have been seen before

[knotty needle]

Don’t learn to ward, learn to actually do something with your wards.

Anyone can pop a ward down in a bush and call it Tuesday, actually using the vision to avoid ganks is the important part.

[torn junco]

thats what I meant

if yooou need to learn how to press 4 u might reconsider playing any videogame at all

[vivid wharf]

I disagree a bit with with 5, if they play 3 champs that are simple, solid, and not overly picked they shouldn’t have any problems even with bans. An example being ornn, maokai, and shen who are all quite strong for top lane but not banned very often especially in low elo

[sharp cosmos]

my guy if ur getting 10 cs a minute theres no way you would only be in silver

[wispy magnet]

Gold players don't know fundamentals tho

[knotty needle]

That’s why I’m recommending he learns them dickhead

Sorry, that was mean spirited.

[errant pivot]

Some do, others are there because they got good at some things that aren't fundamentals (most of them are the latter tbh).

[cursive ingot]

i was in the same spot as you a year ago, but i climbed out the pits of iron and recently hit gold for once. personally i’d stick to just one role you win consistently with, with 1-2 champions you can play at your best with. also your cspm looks really really low, focus on last hitting more. try pushing for maybe 6 cspm consistently. and other than that just play more tbh. that’s the only way u can learn the game

[wispy magnet]

There isn't a single gold who understands fundamentals and still can't climb (excluding trolls)

[native briar]

Bro challenger players don’t even get 10 cs/min unless they’re having a really good game. Completely unrealistic tip. Start at 6 cs/min every game which is the average for bronze, then work your way up from there. 7 cs/min is average for gm/challenger I think

I worked my way up to getting 8 cs/min on my mains on my good games, and when I get fed I usually have 9 or more. But that’s because I practiced last hitting a lot and also because I play champs that have farming tools like corki

But practice last hitting, that is one of the most important and easiest ways to learn the game. It is also the most consistent way of getting ahead in any match of league ever. Even if you leave lane with 0 kp if you’re ahead of your laner by 40-50 cs you are hard winning

Oh and as long as they aren’t hard roaming and getting double kills bot but you can’t prevent that fully

[marble obsidian]

not completely read everything here. But i personally disagree with 6 CS/min. Push for 7/8 CS is usually more important then kills. If you can kill them and gain more out of that (like platings or being able to roam sure.) But putting a nasty freeze against will destroy them in low elo. What is a 0/2 40 cs going to do against the rest of your team. with double/triple the amount of cs

[native briar]

6 cs/min is the average for bronze, 7 cs/min is average for challenger. It’s just unrealistic is all I’m saying and if he’s really not doing well then focusing on an achieveable goal is more important

[marble obsidian]

i just did a quick google search. about CS per minute for each rank. Bronze average cs per minute is 4.70. and for challengers it's 6.05. Not entire sure if it's actually factual.

And him not doing well can be contributed to several things. I.E He could be making bad calls for his teammates. (Teamfighting or objectives calls) Or he could bemaking bad laning plays. That could cost him badly

[native briar]

Damn challenger players must suck then. I average 8 cs/min on my boy corki

[marble obsidian]

I currently average 7.2 CS per minute on irelia. But i tend to deny my laner ALOT of gold and XP so thats why i'm farming a bit less

[errant pivot]

Bronze cs/min avg is like 4.7 or something (varies a bit by champ and role), 6 is already high gold/low plat on most champs, getting 8+ is masters+ level stats on most (for averages, obviously some games they get more than others).

[native briar]

Then I have been misinformed. Rip

[errant pivot]

easy way to check on your favorite champs/roles is to look at stats and compare w/ elo

like that info is actually in the client XD

Some things to note: CS/min tends to do up with game duration (longer games=higher avg CS/min), how well do is also correlated with CS/min (get a lead early and it's easy to farm faster and snowball off of farming alone with that lead).

Looks like 4.7 is iron, 5.3 or so bronze, 6+ is usually gold-plat level, masters+ is usually 7+ (no role averages 8+ at any elo, but bot lane is closest at 7.9 at challenger)

This not to say that high elo can't get 10+ CS/min, I think I watched a Nemesis game where he got 12.2 CS/min on kayle in like 22 minutes.

[native briar]

Yea I played with a plat guy in a bronze norms game once, he got like 13 or 14 cs a minute on ryze. And I’ve played a match that went past 60 minutes and ended up with a ton of cs too, I think it was over 13

Funny stuff, but getting good at it will carry you. Higher cs means more gold

[cursive ingot]

yall should see my cspm with yorick 💀

[sage hatch]

Do these three things consistently and you can climb to Diamond

1. Small Champ Pool / Singular Role
2. Vod Review lost games
3. Don't blame team, blame self

[knotty needle]

It’s

definitely a little more complicated than that.
Reviewing vods doesn’t do fuck all if you don’t know what you’re reviewing.

[native jay]

watch league improvement videos on youtube. There are some like proguides which offer sound advice

It helps raise awareness of things you might be unconsciouly doing that are game sabatoging

[marble obsidian]

Some YouTubers I watched to see vod reviews and how they make their decisions are Neace and AloisNL