how do i 1v9 with kindred

[vapid tiger]

self explanatory i do good but its just not enough because my teammates are beyond horrible idk wanted to ask for some tips

[gloomy verge]

don't int for marks

and don't invade without reasonable explanation, like if you track the enemy jungler and his camps, if you know the lanes can't rotate etc only invade at that time

otherwise don't invade for a mark its not worth it and positioning idk how to talk about that it comes with playing more games on the champ its something you learn from experience

positioning and skirmishing is really important for kindred since you are powerful early but you also scale really well so teamfighting and using your abilities well in a skirmish is key

but that really comes with experience and learning the champs limit so id say just play more games

i mean sometimes it is team gap but if you are the better player then you win more than you lose no matter what especially on a champ like kindred

for early you should just track the enemy jungler, if you know his next move you can be there before him and score a takedown + mark since you do beat most of the junglers early game

mid game depends how well you did early if you did really well early game then you can look to pressure objectives and deny enemy junglers cs (camps), look for early nash since a mark spawns on that if you did bad early just farm try to get marks if they are %100 safe if not ignore them always look for gank opportunities and play for scaling

and late game when you reach like 10 marks just play to teamfight, don't aram with the team look to push sidelanes if no one else is doing so and play around nash

the key is that you don't die for marks its literally never worth it to invade and die for a mark

you lose so much tempo + you aren't guaranteed to take that camp + you give gold to the enemy jungler

and players usually over value kindreds mark in the enemy team, like specially in low elo they would just leave everything to go take that mark so that you can't take it, if not its %99 warded

so you can also abuse that, for example if your mark spawns on gromp while rift is up you can sneak rift while enemy jungler goes botside for your mark and

the disadvantage with this is that its an assumption so the enemy jungler might not always be doing that

but yea the best tip is to keep playing and watch the replays of the games that you lose, watch where you died/misplayed, try to find out the correct play and don't repeat the same mistake twice with this you can literally climb to d4+ with any champ

if you can't figure it out you can ask for coaching in this server its free

and if playing kindred I reccommend being selfish and mute your team if they ping you for that because most of the time they do

[vapid tiger]

i mostly do a fc of my side and start ganking or invade with my mates and start that way

[gloomy verge]

im also going to reccommend you a new approach to this game

So there are two key factors in league to help you win, Gold and Experience.

While your mid is roaming and enemy mid pushes, you catch the wave, it is to gain Gold and Experience from the wave. Same for while ganking, you dont gank to relieve pressure from a lane, you gank to kill the enemy laner which grants you Gold and Experience

[gloomy verge]

i wouldnt autopilot full clear try to see if you can like 3 camp gank or lv 2 gank or lv2 invade or anything like adapt your pathing and sequencing depending on the game

sometimes you do raptors red krugs and gank bot or red krugs raptors to continue clearing thats what i mean by sequencing

[vapid tiger]

yeah i get it i guess but lv 2 kindred feels a bit too weak no?

[gloomy verge]

depends on the enemy jungler there are times when you are stronger with q and w

or if you know they started opposite side you can take their buff and 1 camp for lv 3

[vapid tiger]

im fairly new so i dont know all matchups so i guess that'll come with time

[gloomy verge]

doesnt work if its raptors + 2 buff tho thats the only one you are 99 to lv 3

[vapid tiger]

blue + frog + wolves would be a safe bet?

[gloomy verge]

yea that works

[vapid tiger]

cuz i can pop the blue flower sight thing above river

[gloomy verge]

your red enemy blue and enemy wolves/gromp gives you lv 3 idk krugs ik raptors dont work

[vapid tiger]

i could try that out then camp for a free kill

[gloomy verge]

its just the game is so diverse you change playstyle every game

specially as the jungler

like if its kayn you win lv 2 and 3

[vapid tiger]

yeah ig i kinda just forget about jungling jungling about lv 7 or so and get most of my xp from ganking

[gloomy verge]

if its lillia or ivern you win but you most likely dont kill them if its olaf you lose etc

but that comes from playing more

[vapid tiger]

alr ty i'll try applying these tomorrow

[vapid tiger]

i've got like at most 10 games with her but shes fun so yeah ig it will take some time

[gloomy verge]

it takes atleast like a 100 games to even get a decent understanding of the champ

[steel cape]

I don't think it takes that long to learn Kindred, she's not that hard, but if you've never played marksmen before maybe, as you're also learning a new archetype of champion on top of playing one of the only one's of that archetype that plays in that position (jg).

[gloomy verge]

i mean like the limits of the champion, what fight to take and not in muscle memory etc