#when to know to recall/buy as jungler

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hard pecan
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I was wondering what the general consensus is on when you recall for buys or other things as Jg? I will use the example of blue Kayn and Poppy if that helps any for how their buys are early game.
I mostly want to know this so I don’t stick around longer than one should be, and lose time having no time bought

fierce valley
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after gank lane

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or finish objective

hard pecan
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I see, is it good to recall for item before or after drag for example, it being warded in this example

lucid jacinth
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Champ dependent but i leave if i can afford a good offensive item which helps with farming or fighting. So tiamat (1200) lost chapter (1300) or hextech alternator (1050)

fierce valley
hard pecan
fierce valley
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well first back for tear but not worth

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since stack in jg is pain

hard pecan
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True and well, it’s 3rd item, manatura, does the stacks on the tear matter

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Or whatever the name of that sword is

fierce valley
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yes

lucid jacinth
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Yeah lethality champs would he dirk and optionally boots

fierce valley
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since blue kayn need mana muamren

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to actually deal damage with dirk

hard pecan
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I see, so best idea is to dirk then? And second back for tear?

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As in getting enough gold to buy dirk/ward too. Since kayn runs magical footwear, so can’t buy boots?

hard pecan
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I see, in comparison there is Poppy, who’s main buys for the same price is kindlegem and boots for 1,100 or could go Warhammer for 1,100?

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Her strat is building sunderer and boots, not sure how the order is rn

lucid jacinth
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Not that confident for poppy but warhammer, boots (t1 or 2) then kindlegem

fierce valley
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Warhanmer

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Then sheen or bami

hard pecan
fierce valley
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Run deadman sunder with dh I assume

hard pecan
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Yeah sounds about right, and idk what for boots anymore rn. Either plated, Mercury or Ionians

fierce valley
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Depend on comp

hard pecan
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True, I assume like plated for Tanky, Mercury for stuns, and Ionians for.. squishy team? I don’t 100% get that pair yet, just started using them with kayn

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So it had me thinking for poppy as well

fierce valley
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Ionan ahead of game
Steelcap for champion with Heavy auto
Merc for heavy cc

hard pecan
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Makes sense

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So from my understanding,
Kayn is dirk buy
Poppy is Warhammer and if possible boots

For first buy back?

fierce valley
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Yes

hard pecan
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Gotcha and besides that, is it good to focus a lane as kayn to build transformation correctly? As in targeting bot since I want to go blue

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In the case of no range else where besides mid

fierce valley
hard pecan
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True, but I go blue since I’ve heard red just isn’t as good rn

fierce valley
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That is true

lucid jacinth
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Blue either decimates your entire team or pops through a wall and instantly dies

hard pecan
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True, for me I just like for the most part to not die till my team dives in

lucid jacinth
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Hes so fast, it scares me now still

fierce valley
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Only three range champion avoid go blue was vayne , Janna and lulu

hard pecan
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Which is why I just kinda poke with my.. W? Right?

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As in the line aoe

lucid jacinth
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Yeah

hard pecan
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And yeah I guess one other thing with Kayn

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Is his correct roll out to phase through nexus and go through bot or top? I can phase up to the wall that leads out of the spawn usually, but wanted to know the best way around