How to invade with graves/kindred?

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I want to know how many camps should I take before I invade the enemy jungler? Also would like to know when I should invade and when not to invade.

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early invades are kinda dead imo

you take like 10 more seconds to clear than your own jungle, early thats huge

youd prob want to 3 camp bot or just lv2 bot and see if you can take his krugs

with kindred you can invade your first marks if on raptors

but invade while bot dies its not worth anymore

hence why evelynns can play so relax and chill

nobody invades

the one exception is if all lanes get prio and enemy full clears and you know you can kill him

but the issue is, he will lv 3 gank bot if your bot has prio

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even then you cant afford to take his camps unless its low hp, you lose so much tempo 10 seconds early game is huge

its legit his respawn timer + 10 seconds for him to make a play