#new asol gonna become a jungler?

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cosmic bramble
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quick review of his abilities:
passive he gains stacks blah blah
Q channels and deals damage that splashes, "crit"s for every second channeled into a single enemy and gathering stacks
well for critting you need your enemy to stand right there. which one is better enemy minions who die easily and lane opponent who has a brain and wont allow you to crit Q easily, or mindless jungle monsters who just sit there and attack you?
W is dash over walls that resets on kill
well basically his ganking ability, which allows him to easily gank and E then Q on the enemy to eat them
E is blackhole drags in middle deals dmg and executes
its probably gonna use kinematics (the mechanic rell ult uses) that will be overridden by enemy movement abilities
its a good ability to start in lane lets you stack passive early and harass but in jungle it can stack up jungle enemies away from you and allow you to safely melt them with Q while executing enemies inside and granting you stacks. in fights it keeps people from running away by walking
and R is star that stuns and becomes empowered that knocks up and deals dmg in insanely large area

also for his build
mythic probably everfrost which gives him AP haste health and mana and allows him to slow/root people to melt them with Q
rocketbelt also gives him additional mobility and nice stats
lindary's and luden's are good items on every mage basically
ROA can give him insane scaling too

abyssal mask can be viable on him for tanky build
demonic for tanky build again
deathcap basically mage snowball item
rylai's it can be great on him bcuz u can keep Q on them easier E pulls them easier and R+ shockwave slows
shadowflame isi another standard mage item
same for void staff
cosmic drive CAN be good it depends on the champ details

gimme your opinions

raven sedge
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I am not reading all that shit but there is definitely potential considering his AoE potential and his ability to stack off jungle camps with his E

cosmic bramble
raven sedge
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Deez nuts

cosmic bramble
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It isn't one of those difficult texts

raven sedge
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I’ve answered and agreed with the main premise. AoE tools, access to a jungle item to answer his mana economy, Talon tier wall ignorance, the ability to stack off jungle camps, there’s potential.

cosmic bramble
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Jungle items do something with mana?

raven sedge
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Jungle items grant dramatic mana recovery as long as you’re in river or jungle, it helps to balance out the sub-par mana economy most junglers have to keep them out of lane.

placid thunder
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Nah not worth

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Aoe have reduced damages

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And jg set to be nerf

fluid saffron
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He doesnt get much Stardust from jg camps

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So... Yeah

cosmic bramble
tired totem
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we'll see more soon, however I did see the potential we'd have to see how his stardust works in the jungle to know if that will work or not. even then i'm pretty sure he'll still be fine in mid lane even though i haven't played the rework yet

cosmic bramble
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E execute:
little minions and monsters 1
big minions 3
big monsters and champs 5
epic monsters 10

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a full jungle clear grants
2 buff monsters = 10
gromp = 5
wolves = 5 + 2
birds = 5 + 5
stony things = 5 + 5 + 4 + 2 or maybe 5 + 1 + 4 + 2
= either 48 o4 44

tired totem
cosmic bramble
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fandom says that Q only grants stacks when channeled into champions, if it collected stacks from monsters it would be great

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in lane grants 6 stacks per wave (if you kill every minion with E execute) and 9 for cannon waves. plus some additional stacks gained from E and Q ing enemy laner

tired totem
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i mean

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the cooldown is 12 seconds u can definitely make it work.

tired totem
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u can also just decide on some camps u wanna take with e because of high value and take those

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u have about 120 seconds to do ur first jgl clear

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let's say u start with e to get highest amount of stacks (when leashed)

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u can do ur e about 10 times if u use it immediately at the start of ur jung clear

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which even if that wasn't done

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the average leash is about 10 seconds i would say

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u hit the buff like 3 or so seconds after that usually so u do ur e to get the 10 stacks, u have 8 es left

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u go to ur krugs (upgrade q) u try to e the krugs but, maybe can't get a good one even then

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just do it, u'll get another e at around the raptors

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u'll use that one u'll definitely have e up for wolves because it's a decently longer way, it takes a while to kill blue buff so u'll get e back again and gromp also is a hard to kill monster so u have e again

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u can even go blue < red < bot scuttle instead of red > blue to top scuttle

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red side u can still do the same, i haven't experimented it but we'd have to see which one would be faster but from what i'm seeing asol def is the sort of champ that has to farm a lot

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i'm not seeing how many stacks all abilities need before beind upgraded tho

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oh right u can also take ability haste runes

cosmic bramble
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well u normally max Q first bcuz max Q can last forever?

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the gameplay has to be known

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also u almost always start blue buff bcuz u dont really attack to use red buff and blue gives u mana regen and haste

tired totem
cosmic bramble
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no I was just asking

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is max Q to get inf duration viable?

tired totem
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however e max can also work because it executes champs too and it has a slow effect

cosmic bramble
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in jungle yes
in teamfights if u have W yes
but really? can u focus it on people more than 3.5 sec?

tired totem
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idk how the targeting works

cosmic bramble
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its like velkoz ulti

tired totem
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yeah that's definitely hard lol

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i doubt u'll hit multiple people for a long periodof time

cosmic bramble
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no it doesnt pierce

tired totem
cosmic bramble
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idk
maybe E on them then Q?

tired totem
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yup could work