#genuinely, how do i climb.

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latent ginkgo
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honestly i can relate, i kept on getting demoted and promoted to the same elo

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I would say try to look over games you played to see if you messed up anywhere and how you can improve

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i was in the same spot a couple of years ago, just a casual player and then i dropped super low

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so i decided I would one trick a charachter and that really helps

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mind you this has to be a character you enjoy playing

raven light
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i love syndra. i’m playing a game RN and the jungle just banned my pick and locked in ksante…. for jungle…. with no smite…

latent ginkgo
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dodge the game not worth playing

raven light
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i don’t mean to seem like narcissistic but i do not think IM the problem

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on my second 30 min dodge of the week 😻 i love league

latent ginkgo
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play to improve honestly

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I went on a massive losing streak a while back, and dropping down a few levels it was a different experience since it felt so easy for me to play in those games

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you will climb if you improve tbh

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also watching proplayer streamers helps you realize your mistakes more easily

raven light
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how is the level i play at gonna up my LP when my teammates lose the game for me

latent ginkgo
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generally there is a 40/20/40 rule, generally i think its bs for some accounts since I sometimes just get unwinnable games. but when riot thinks you're at the right elo it is generally applicable

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40% of the games you get carried
40% of the games you lose
20% of the games are up to you

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also dont play league when you're tilted or tired

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your performance goes down the drain so much

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go find a different game to play while cooling down, or do something else and go back to the game when you're no longer tilted or tired

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hope that helps im now off to destroy the mmr on my account since i cant stop the shaking in my hands

fossil rampart
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low elo is a clusterfuck, if you are consistent and you are playing well, you will climb regardless of teammates

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key things to look out for: good kda, good cs, low deaths

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try not to drop below 6 cs/min and dont get more than 5 deaths

thorny dagger
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One bad game doesn't determine your whole career, again there are generally games where it's impossible to win.

Don't focus on the bad games, just go next and improve yourself as a player.

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If you were last in Bronze, anything you are doing is wrong, because if it was right, you would be climbing already. You can't assume you aren't the problem, you definitely are.

In fact, I thought of the same thing when I was hardstuck Gold, I refused to get any better and just assume my teammates are the problem. Eventually I got Plat 2 just because I started realizing I was shit.

fathom osprey
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I am top laner but i recently created a mid account to train on my off role and managed to climb on it very fast despite knowing almost no champ on this lane, here are some advice that u can apply on ur games that helped me climb: first thing that i noticed in mid laners is that u guys are just not moving out of ur lane despite winning it. WORST THING to do as a winning lane , is to keep pushing to ur opponent and be unproductive on the map so , MOVE INTO TOP OR BOT LANE , INVADE ENEMY JUNGLE , BE HIS NIGHTMARE, do anything on the map but DO NOT KEEP PUSHING WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING , its litteraly what every low elo mid laner does , u can check my account on euw its "chimpanze mid " i legit have no cs in my games but i just keep moving on the map to kill everyone and get objectives

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if u manage to cs despite moving everywhere on the map its even better , but remember the most important thing, as a mid laner , u have a very good control on the map, so do not restrain urself on ur lane , roaming is in the majority of the cases the key to win a game as a mid laner

velvet laurel
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turn all chat off
and restricting urself to a limited number of ranked games a day but I’m currently breaking that rule as of rn lol

fathom osprey
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last thing for u to know is that league is not a game in which u can get masters in ur first year of playing unfortunately for u , climbing usually takes a lot of time and involvement for months or years , so dont be desesperate , u will eventually climb if u keep being focused every game

velvet laurel
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but usually it goes
win > win > can play another
win > lose > take a break
lose > win > can play another
lose > lose > spam norms or just stop playing ranked

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but generally two losses a day should be ur max if ur planning to rank up

fathom osprey
velvet laurel
fathom osprey
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what do u mean

velvet laurel
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double losses just means it’s just not ur day it’s not worth spamming games until ur next win
you might have unlucky teams?
you might be underperforming? but for two losses to happen in a row something’s off

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had a friend who hit p1 and was so happy he did the next day he started spamming games and went on do demote to p3 75 lp and none of the games were rlly “his fault”

fathom osprey
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oh okok i got it , but as long as ur mental is ok its fine to spam games no ? i legit never talk in chat and i am full focused on my games everytime and never on autopilot, or should i really go on aram for example if i loose 3/ 4 games in a row ?

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or should i really stop league

velvet laurel
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even with the best mental I’d personally just stop after 2 losses because atp you’re playing for a win over lp gain

velvet laurel
fathom osprey
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no matter how many lp i lost

velvet laurel
fathom osprey
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ill keep that in mind , that reminds me of a night in s12 in which i went from master 120 lp to d1 90 lp bc i wanted to end on a win

velvet laurel
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and it’ll prolong whatever rank you’re at too which overall helps your lp gains

fathom osprey
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should have stopped after my 3rd loss

velvet laurel
fathom osprey
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LMAOO

velvet laurel
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hold on is ur ign oww by any chance

fathom osprey
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nope i play on euw

velvet laurel
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oh oops LMAO I didn’t bother to look my bad

fathom osprey
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"gôrilla top"

velvet laurel
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because that happened to that dude too 😭

fathom osprey
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XDDD i feel that

modest yacht
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play the game with the mindset of improving. not taking a fast track

copper python
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the ratio thing doesnt apply to my account cause I've had it since s0

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I'm cursed

visual pine
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If you want to climb you need to find a playstyle that works for u

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1 or 2 lanes you want to play. Most high ELO players only mains two roles.
2. A. Look at yourself honestly and figure out a playstyle that best suits you. Are you the kind of player that can take over games. B. Are you the kind of player that isn't very mechanical but has good game sense.

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If you feel like you're being Griefed by your teammates then you need to decide whether you want to carry or be carried

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Iron players are very dumb. They lack macro and leadership skills. If you want to climb out of low ELO you gotta hold your teammates hands and carry them to victory

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And if you genuinely believe you're better than iron players but you can't climb out then you can start a fresh account

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But you can climb out of any elo with the right mindset/playstyle

pine yew
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just look at somone higher elo playing in iron and u will see how easily games are carryable. Play 1-2 champs and watch a few guides about them and you should be fine

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dont say your team is shit you are same elo as them so its kinda weird + enemy is also shit sooo u just gotta be less shit

half tide
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post ur op.gg plz, and stop blaming teammates, staying in iron is extremely hard even playing janna mid isnt enough (talking about experience), u can easily play 3v5 game if u just improve a little bit, iron ppl are just like bots u dont even see a difference between a bot yuumi and a player

graceful dust
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Don't play syndra. Play Annie

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Simple as that.

half tide
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yeah cus syndra is incredibly hard and its the only reason he is iron.... plz

craggy ledge
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TBH the best way to get out of elo hell is getting a coach, or find a player to duo with you. I recommend finding a jg player.
edit: I agree syndra is a extremely hard champion, but I think you can learn a lot by playing her, do not let others to tell you what champion you want to play.

half tide
craggy ledge
long mortar
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"its my teams fault im hardstuck in iron"Copium

hearty badger
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since you now have to utilize her zoning abbilities instead of haha r point and click one shot

craggy ledge
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yes, now she needs to land combo and then become powerful, and csing with mage should be a small problem for iron player as well.

half tide
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Well true but thinking like that there are very few champs point and click like malz and annie

long mortar
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early csing with malz isnt that easy

craggy ledge
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mal push constantly and that required map awareness or a good jg duo, i dont think its a good pic in iron

long mortar
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hard to push early levels cause ur e does no dmg

craggy ledge
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depends on the match up?

long mortar
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yes

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becomes easy when u get lost chapter

craggy ledge
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what do you think is the best champion for Iron player to learn?

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i never being Iron before so i do not know

fossil rampart
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annie

modest yacht
craggy ledge
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lol ok

modest yacht
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it's true though.

fossil rampart
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paying for a coach below diamond is a massive waste of money

craggy ledge
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im not saying pay for one

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you gotta have some friend who is better than you right

hearty badger
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oh wait

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malzahar or malphite?

craggy ledge
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malzahar i think

hearty badger
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yeah i think so

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idk tbh i dont think malz is that good of a low elo champ yes he is simple but hard to execute

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most of the time you will just run in ult the frontline tank and then die as you cc yourself while your team is doing their jgl camps lol

craggy ledge
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When you play mal but your jg never gank mid once

hearty badger
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he does need team coordination and cant really solo carry

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just pick sylas and learn some common ults

craggy ledge
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melee mage might be challenging tho, since OP play Syndra...

fossil rampart
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low elo is insane for scaling

hearty badger
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and no low elo person has a concept of map awarness or jgl tracking

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scal 35 mins with malz just to run into a sideline with no vision and get 1 shot by an invisa khazix

craggy ledge
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just go play yasuo

hearty badger
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yeah

fossil rampart
hearty badger
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i agree

craggy ledge
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now you have a reason to lose game

long mortar
fossil rampart
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malz wr iron-gold: 52-53%
malz wr plat+: 49%

thorn brook
hearty badger
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i feel like the same with olaf

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sure you can hardlose lane but you will never be worse off then the adc you are about to run over

craggy ledge
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bro i got oneshot by a 0/5 garen

modest yacht
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i think your seriously discrediting players. yes lower elos players arent good. they're low for one reason or another. but they know about concepts. just lack understanding on how to apply/ use them.

left jewel
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Pick shaco in the top lane

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Build full tank and easy carry

copper python
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sett heartsteel

raven light
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i think my biggest problems is i can overextend and i have trouble rotating.

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other than that i just gotta play more and do the if i lose 2 matches stop and take a break

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but there is times where a player will throw and some matches are over before they even start so don’t even try and say that i’m compensating i’m fr just asking for help i’m in iron for a reason i get that and i will climb with experience

craggy ledge
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do you mind show me your OPGG so i can take a look?

finite spindle
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i play mid, syndra.
fatal error, go play jungle, support, or jungle

visual pine
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Syndra isn't a hard champ to learn WeirdCHAMP

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30 mins in practice tool, learning the items and congrats, you learned how to play syndra

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You don't even need to YouTube that shit

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If anything syndra one of the champs you should main to play in iron. Brain dead champion that does crazy amount of damage

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Players in iron don't even know how to dodge a skillshot

half tide
hoary thicket
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If you’re in iron then everyone there is dogshit. Play braindead champs like sion yorick or Darius and win every game until you get silver.

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Darius can 1v9 easy and low elo doesn’t know what to do against a yorick perma splitting

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You can solo end the game as yorick and/or sion (preferably yorick). Maybe nasus too.

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Don’t go the “ugh my teammates are shit” route. It’s cliche and makes you sound stupid. If you’re better than them then you wouldn’t be in that elo. Perfect your skills at a champ or two or do what I said and you’ll climb.

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If you are dead set on playing syndra then watch high elo streamers and YouTubers that play her to learn tips and tricks and what not.

graceful dust
hoary thicket
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Didn’t she just get nerfed

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A two year old could play yorick and solo end the game

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No offense but I don’t understand how people are in iron

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Like legit everyone there doesn’t know how to play the game at all. If you abuse easy “op” champs you can get to silver with ease

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Darius, yi, yorick, mordekaiser, volibear etc

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Honestly like any bruiser

graceful dust
hoary thicket
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For an iron player I’d imagine she wouldn’t be that simple

graceful dust
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There is a reason alot of other master+ coaches including myself recommend her to every new player

graceful dust
hoary thicket
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Yeah so wouldn’t just like garen make sense or something

graceful dust
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Meaning they can then focus more on learning the basics. Plus Annie is I'm a perfectly fine state to play/main up until diamond.

hoary thicket
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Idk you’re right cause iron players don’t know how to play the game

thorny dagger
graceful dust
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Annie garen mallphite all fit in the same category. The reason we don't recommend champions like yorick is because he requires a different understanding of the game. Aka the split pushing which to be done correctly requires using the minimap and wards

graceful dust
hoary thicket
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Can’t any character get to challenger if you’re good enough

graceful dust
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Yup

thorny dagger
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Yes

hoary thicket
graceful dust
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Because of her kit and how easy so is to understand and play around

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Aswel as certain champions scaling better depending on each individual players skill expression on the champion. Like riven or vayne

hoary thicket
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Yeah

graceful dust
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When you're below gold/plat what you need is to improve basics. Meaning the simpler champ edges out in that because you have less variables going on Meaning you can focus more on the basic part of the game and improve on that

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It's a very simple concept to follow

fathom osprey
graceful dust
thorn brook
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They really don't unless it's top where it kinda matters

graceful dust
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Nor do they matter at all in bronze silver gold because both players are shit

fathom osprey
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Its litteraly the first thing to do , capitalize on enemy mistakes by knowing ur champ and enemy champion

thorn brook
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The first thing to do is learn the basics

graceful dust
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If both players are shit then matchups will never be the reason you're losing a lane/game

fathom osprey
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So what do u mean by basics

graceful dust
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Farming

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Warding.

thorn brook
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The easiest way to learn the basics is with simple champs like annie because you don't have as many things to manage unlike another mage like ryze

graceful dust
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Using the minimap

graceful dust
fathom osprey
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We prob just have different approaches to climb out of low elo , for me considering how many mispositionning ppl do in lane , all u have to do is to learn to capitalize on these mistakes and feed urslef , and for that u can play any champ that u want as long as u dont play 15 diff champs and stick to 2 max

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This is what worked for me personally

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Even tho my champions arent hard ( jax garen olaf tryn)

thorn brook
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In order to learn when the enemy makes mistakes you need to learn the basics first like positioning

fathom osprey
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Comes *

graceful dust
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It comes to hand because you learn it. 🤦‍♂️