#Literally Elo Hell

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ripe shuttle
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legit just play more

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ur cs is also awful in 90% of your games

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and your death count is extremely high too, consistently

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probably take better fights/less risky plays, and farm your camps

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its hard to go more in depth just from op.gg

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you also shouldn't blame teammates, just focus on your own gameplay, as there aren't too many games you are overperforming

sinful compass
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Elo hell isn’t real

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You’re coping

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And not as good as you think you are

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Cry about it spookyswain spookyswain spookyswain

hot ingot
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Yeah like

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You got a lot of work to do to climb man

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Elo hell doesn’t exist rly anyway

muted terrace
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dont let the losses blow your mental understand that you wont be able to win every single game even on a good day

unreal gyro
worldly jackal
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Don't, Preseason provides nothing besides increasing your MMR. I would just use Rank to get better at what you struggle with.

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Not sure why you're caring about LP during Preseason

iron relic
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cause it matters as much as in season

hexed mountain
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If anything else, pick a time and stick with, and play more games.

worldly jackal
hexed mountain
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Everyone who’s at wherever they’re at has played more than enough games.

iron relic
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what do u mean by "not lp"

hexed mountain
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Preseason only serves to bolster or nerf your LP gains on real seasons.

iron relic
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your rewards wont change but you will lose lp as usual

worldly jackal
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Which is MMR

hexed mountain
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You could drop all the way down to bronze 4 0 LP, your placements will be the same, but your gains and losses become Extreme.

iron relic
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just answer

hexed mountain
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Also, this has nothing to do with the current thread.

iron relic
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what do u mean by "not lp"

iron relic
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if you grind dia from bronze during preseason, you will start plat as a result

worldly jackal
hexed mountain
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@vivid dirge just play more and stick to 1 role. Chose jungle or mid or top; doesn’t really matter. Play a lot. Everyone who has hit any elo above where they started took plenty of time.

iron relic
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its about your rank right before the reset

worldly jackal
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Yeah I'm not arguing about this

iron relic
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if you have a bronze mmr with a dia rank, you will start plat

vivid dirge
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oh wait

iron relic
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just stop spreading misinformation

vivid dirge
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it doesnt matter except for mmr

worldly jackal
iron relic
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yeah, like normally

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like your rank, if you win

vivid dirge
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wait so does your rank just reset

iron relic
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there is no difference between preseason and season

iron relic
vivid dirge
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oh ok thanks

iron relic
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depending as i said of your rank right before this reset

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so everything you lose right now will have direct effects on your future rank

clear junco
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don't take the advice that playing more will accomplish improvement. you need to get a coach. one way to do that is find someone who has legitimately (not boosted) attained a rank of i'm gonna say, minimum plat, and pick their brain to learn. You can find youtubers with advice on leveling up, but research the youtuber first to make sure they are legit their rank, and that it is higher rank. because ANYONE can put out a video.

swift glen
swift glen
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as far as i can tell it's your first season, don't worry

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just try to learn what every champ does, what are their cooldowns and when to take objectives

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It took me 8 seasons to go from bronze to 0.2%

worn meteor
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3 seasons later I'm the same rank as I was when I started, my game knowledge is way higher but I don't apply it, I have terrible adhd and impulsivity problems which I think is the main reason

swift glen
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just don't put yourself in a mindset that you are good, you are not. You make a lot of mistakes, everyone does acknowledging that is first step to improvement. Despite being better than most player base I know that I'm bad, when I play against players with double my lp I get crushed which is very humbling

swift glen
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because of tilt or pride

worn meteor
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I always try to be the hero when I should just play safe

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Focus on cs instead of trading

swift glen
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learn to cs until you can do both at the same time

worn meteor
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I crave the instant dopamine rush so much that I immensely struggle with decisions that don't immediately reward me

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This is true for everything in my life lol I'm a huge drug addict

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I feel like not improving at league despite learning so much has helped me become more aware of the problems in my life actually haha

swift glen
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it requires some will power, like you want to walk up for cs, but you know you shouldn't because you will take free damage. Just lose the 3 cs instead of half hp so you can go agro once it bounces back.

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league teaches you patience

worn meteor
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I find leagueofgraphs to be more useful for analysis than op.gg

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Neither compare to vod reviews though

swift glen
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it is and lolalytics best for items

hexed mountain
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bro you're doing fine why'd you even make this post lmao

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literally just need to play more and you'll get out

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you just started the game, and you're at positive win rate bronze 1 that's legit better than 90% of people who start playing

keen talon
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nvm thought the cs was 7.1 not 1.1

swift glen
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ashe support

cyan lake
swift glen
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There are wintraders in every server, I have played with or against players who lost 40-60 games in a row against same players

cyan lake
swift glen
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If you aren't betted against your odds of having a wintrader is the same as enemy team having one

cyan lake
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trust me theres perma wintrading in d1

swift glen
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Why would someone win trade in D1?

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When you can duo boost?

cyan lake
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why would some1 fucking wintrade in preseason

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thats the only thing i can comprehend currently for half the players i get queued with

swift glen
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You get 10-13$ per traded game?

cyan lake
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and for some reason theyre never on the opposite fkn team i just want the cait on the other team one fkn time

swift glen
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You know what you do?

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You add all wintraders to your friends and just play when they are in game or off-line

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I do it with people I hate

tired barn
vivid dirge
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whats in trading lmao

ripe shuttle
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this has to be the worst take of all time

sinful compass
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Yeah I’m with Ned on that.

Practice makes perfect holds merit, even here.

sinful compass
edgy moss
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as a hardstuck gold, u cant

keen talon
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thats not elo hell

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every claim someone can make of elo hell can just be disproven as it happens on both sides

keen talon
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ur asking what elo hell is when ur saying it ?

iron relic
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It refers to portions of the matchmaking ranking spectrum where individual matches are of poor quality, and are often determined by factors such as poor team coordination which are perceived to be outside the individual player's control.

sinful compass
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Elo hell is an idea made up by hardstuck plat-diamond players who can’t be carried any further by their skewed MMR, and they’re looking for something to blame instead of admitting they’re at their current peak.

hexed mountain
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to an extent i think elo hell does exist but that doesn't change what people above are saying which is that 99% of your matches will generally be within your control

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for example someone with +6 and -20 is in literal elo hell

sinful compass
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That’s not elo hell, that’s the game trying to pull you out of an elo you’re not supposed to be in. If you play and win your MMR will improve. If not, you’ll fall a bit but you can fix your MMR in an elo where you’ll stomp

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Bad MMR is the game trying to put you where you think you belong, if you play well it will fix itself

hexed mountain
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the issue with stomping is the fact you have to win like 100 games in a row before your elo becomes somewhat normal again

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and at that point you had might as well had made a new account rather than hire a smurf

sinful compass
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If you’re gonna climb, you’ll climb. MMR be damned

iron relic
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its caused by the poor placelemnt system

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normally, you lose rank while the rank reset but iron 4 cannot demote below, so they start at the same rank but they have the huge lp gain from placement aswell, inflating their rank

prisma lotus
keen talon
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thats like being diamond with gold mmr

keen talon
swift glen
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No offense, but it's impossible to stay at the bottom of iron IV, just plug in your mouse

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and I bet that those who are stuck there don't really care and enjoy the game in a different way

keen talon
hexed mountain
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People are still in about this Zzz.

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Also, the take I had about playing more is true; even if Faker was placed in Iron 4 with 100% winrate (again, not possible due to other lanes or ints, mistakes, etc.” he would not climb past Plat with only 30 games simply because there’s literally not enough games and numbers to work with.

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If Faker ended up in Iron 4 and wins 30 +30LP games, he would still only be Silver. This is assuming someone is actually good at the game is popping off with 100% winrate at +30. Most people are not 100% winrate even smurfing in modern League from Smurf queue and Riot’s unique matchmaking, let alone have the MMR that allows them to gain +30 a win. You do need to play more than just 30 (just an example number) games a season.

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There is not a single diamond+ player who has less than 300 total games their entire time spent on League, and that’s assuming that they can learn and process extreme amounts of information. Your average player can’t do that. So yes, play more, at least 100 games before you can assume or suggest Elo Hell/hardstuck.

knotty nebula
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just win more than you lose

tired barn
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I picked warwick and literally had 100% wr on him in iron

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people in iron are literally intentionally not getting better rank

hexed mountain
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u die way too much even though i'm bronze 4 i die a lot less.

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U are playing warwick how is ur kda under 1

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fyi i got more than like 1.5 kda when i forgot to take smite

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other than when i play very bad

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first time viego i had 8/12/23

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the thing is that u r getting kda under 1 with warwick which is known for survivability

tired barn
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op.gg show 2.94 average kda????????????? what are you talking about?

hexed mountain
proper inlet
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Averages over 10 deaths on warwick over 28 games and has the audacity to say "my teammates kinda suck"