Should I move onto a different role?

[sturdy cove]

Hey guys, I recently got heavily invested in rank and have been trying to get out of bronze but I got tilted pretty hard and now im in b3. As a top laner, I know that my role is the least influential and the games that I do get fed, the other lanes get their asses kicked.

To get out of this elo hell, should i simply switch my role to a different lane? Start a new account and start from scratch? Change my champ pool (currently trynd, camille, and sometimes Aatrox/nasus and shen) I'm open for advice and criticism of my stats and what I can do to improve

https://www.op.gg/summoners/na/Nimrod117

[strong peak]

Key to winning low elo games is play a champion that can hard carry the game if you think you have the potential to win. Dont play team reliant champions like Shen, play strong early game champions that can 1v5 late game like Darius. Don't switch out of your comfortable role, it's just the matter of how you can snowball your lead into a win.

Just Perma split all game if you're fed, if you're mechanically good with your champion, you will never die in low elo

[lunar narwhal]

I got out of bronze using top lane, play more garen, ugot

[fallow loom]

you can climb out of any rank on any role with almost any champion, so saying that you play top and you have no influence is just pure massive

the first part in improving, is seeing and realising that you are bad

[dusk basin]

well play to improve and try to switc up your champ pool to smth smaller i would say trynd garen and nasus are the best to learn since they are the easiest toplane is fine to climb with

[sturdy cove]

yeah ive come to realize that im not the best player. I need to work on my wave management and my macro

[sturdy cove]

alright, ill stick with these for now and try to climb, ty!

[queen frigate]

let me know if you ever want to duo add me http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=sparkymudkip

[fallow loom]

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[modest hull]

while i agree you eventually can carry yourself from any position. You got it harder at some. I am botlane player. I play only adc and support for several season and i have found you can decide games that are somehow even or in small deficit. But you will most likely not carry lost game. Recently i dropped from promo to plat 3 to GOLD 1 0 lp. Losing around 20 games out of 25. And most of them were absolutely stompfest and even if i played above average i will still losing because i was getting iked by 20/3 rengar. Got to a point where enemy teams were cheering me up about how they checked my opgg and feel sorry for me. It got better and i am back at the classic win/loss/ trades. But this streak showed me once again if you want to influence majority of games, you cant play botlane.. But since i play only botlane since season 1, i might have to accept i will not leave plat/gold lvl unless i find a great duo ( i play alone). JUST FYI i dont think i have skill higher then mid plat. But i sure know i am not a liablity on this lvl.

[neon cipher]

The champ and the role dont matter, you will grind as long as you play well

[fallow loom]

i was silver for 2 years playing support, i got good and got to plat the 3rd year

[abstract mulch]

If you decide to switch roles i'd highly, highly recommend settling in on a role ASAP if your primary goal is to climb

Your LP gains and losses are fucked I see, as low as -19 and +13 I see

Making a new account would be a temporary fix to that... and there's a good chance it would get you to silver. But that doesn't actually help you get better, and eventually it's going to level out again

[abstract mulch]

Your winrate over game duration seems to suggest you are good at getting an early lead (helped out a lot by champs like Shen and Garen), but you do not use it effectively

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/summoner/behavior/na/Nimrod117

Hmm on second thought that doesn't seem to be exactly the case looking at other stats

You often end with high kills despite not snowballing early; your exceptionally high CS for your rank is likely to blame

That seems to be carrying you in many games, and if I were to guess based purely off looking at stats, you might not be taking the right fights (i.e. fighting when you shouldn't and splitting when you should be fighting)

You're having a lot of success recently on garen, so you might not feel comfortable with changing this, but I'd try and learn to take ignite over TP on garen, and practice trading/dueling more

I didn't check enough games to confirm if this is a pattern, but I did seem to notice a lot of games where both you and the enemy top laner were fed. I also noticed you get fed mid-late game after getting items from farming so well. It seems like although you are able to get strong, you might not doing enough to stop the enemy top laner from getting fed, despite playing a lot of champs who can abuse being strong early

[old pelican]

Nobody who is stuck in bronze is stuck in bronze for the role that they picked. Toplane is actually very strong if you know what to do (most people don't), and it's only gonna get stronger in preseason with the exp buffs

[abstract mulch]

Based on my very-likely-incorrect observation of your playstyle from stats, you might want to learn Jax or Fiora

They will scale better than Garen if you just farm it up for a while

but I think champion mastery is not the main problem

[dim silo]

the funny thing is u can say this about any role

xd

[abstract mulch]

bot lane without a duo can be harder tho cuz u will sometimes be matched against bot lane duos

[quartz relic]

What I can tell you as someone whi was stuck silver for 2 years, and bronze the year before that, the key to climbing is coming to the realisation that you are bad at the game and working towards not being bad anymore, whatever that might be.

You want to improve macro, sure that helps since no one knows macro in bronze but I can guarantee that your lack of macro is not the reason why you are currently b3, there are things you can improve on much quicker than macro that will allow you to climb

[sturdy cove]

thank you guys for the tips. Right now im gonna focus on my macro and ask myself when i should teamfight and when i should split

appreciate all the answers!

[crystal hound]

learn how to trade

how to build

when kill range is per champion

[dreamy cliff]

ngl this is still an excuse especially in a support role, i’ve played support for years d2 currently but if you’re playing above avg you should def win more then you lose, if you find ur team feeding i guarantee there’s always something you can do about it to prevent it

roaming visions even micro managing your team

doesn’t rly matter the support either, i can roam with enchanters too like soraka it’s just the little things

obv some games that you just can’t control ofc

i think i’m low elo is mostly about controlling what your team does, people in plat below honestly don’t know how to utilize their lead or play behind

I promise mechanics is the least important factor about climbing in my opinion cause honestly mechanically i personally don’t see a difference from avg gold to diamond players they just know the game more is all not saying it’s not important though

[neon cipher]

you need enough mechanics to be able to do what you want

its as simple as that

silver and below have trouble with their execution

even basic stuffs

[tranquil niche]

I am in the same boat, This was my first year playing ranked and I have only played around 50 games lol (currently Bronze 2). I plan to start grinding ranked next season and intend on pushing for gold. This season I just dedicated myself to playing normals and learning the key fundamentals of top lane as well as picking a champ and sticking with it. The advice given to me from my plat/Dimond friends was pick a champ and stick with it. For me that champ was Shen. Although Shen in most cases can be team reliant he is a fantastic champion to teach you the importance of moving your camera/ minimap awareness. He is also a very strong lane champ that only gets beat out by champs like Darius and Aatrox. Shen is a great champ to play to get both yourself and your team ahead in gold and Xp. The only pain I have experienced with him is obviously having your team run it down when you have given them every tool to win is disheartening but that's just the way it goes! My limited advice is to dedicate yourself to a single champ and a single role. Don't let the Losses get to you !

[sturdy cove]

I FUCVKING HIT GOLD

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE TIPS

[wispy heron]

the bad thing is - gold is not a gold anymore) its is actually silver but gz, u get out of bronze finally

[sturdy cove]

yeah i understand that, but considering the fact that i was hardstuck bronze 3 to gold 4. i can finally say i improved at the game

[gray perch]

congrats !! what do you think helped you the most when climbing?

[sturdy cove]

100% wave management

That and map awareness

Knowing when to split and when to teamfight

Smaller champ pools

And just keep playing

The more I played the more flaws I saw and tried to fix

[austere lynx]

if your stuck in bronze your role is not the issue i sugjest just trying to lern basic game knowlage and go with the role you think is most fun higest potential roles i think is mid and jg but also they require a bit beter decistions since its more decitions to make while top and bot are to far from eachother so takes to long to gank etc ofc there is allways exceptions

[austere lynx]

^^ gz on gold saw it just afther i sent 😛

[sturdy cove]

haha no worries youre all good XD. I just wanted to post a little update to share to people that its def possible if u have the right mind set/ put the effort in

plus all the tips listed are still useful for anyone looking to climb