#Darius Mini Rework?

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hearty willow
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Well you see there's some champions that are called statcheckers exactly because they have WAY BETTER stats than most champions early game

past barn
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You're fighting him at level 1?

hearty willow
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Which means they should be able to kill you easily early levels if you try to fight them

past barn
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Just outduel him

open glacier
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you cant outduel darius level 1

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IM talking about

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when he sits somewhere

hearty willow
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People like tryndamere with rage up,darius,trundle and warwick will all shit on you level 1

open glacier
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Presses ghost

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and you die

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every time

hearty willow
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I mean Darius can't solo kill ornn level 1

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if ornn knows how to play

open glacier
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Yes he can

past barn
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Just don't fight him

hearty willow
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If ornn knows how to play Darius can't run him down

past barn
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Play safe

open glacier
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he can solo like 90% of top lane at lvl 1

hearty willow
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So can warwick,sett,tryndamere and trundle

open glacier
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not easily

hearty willow
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the bigger the skill gap between 2 players the more likely it is for them to kill you

hearty willow
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it doesn't get easier than that

open glacier
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but you can run from trundle

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you cant really run from a darius

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with ghost, nimbus cloak and W start

hearty willow
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and you can not run away from a darius...that's interesting

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I think you should watch better players how they play against Darius and try to understand what they are doing that you are not tbh

open glacier
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I have no issue fighting a darius, I don't really die to darius

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This post isntr about me

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Its in general

manic osprey
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have you never played against sett or gwen or trundle or like half toplane champs

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the problem is that he has very backloaded damage

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but to compensate for it its insane

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my perspective as a darius otp

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is that he doesnt need much change at all

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the just need to undo his r buff and nerf his q healing from 13% per champ hit by blade up to 39% to 10% to 30% max

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but in return give his q say, 10% armour and mr per champ hit with blade up to 30% max

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reduces the frustrating backloaded damage where w r will just one shot any adc at lvl 16 and in turn allows him to frontline a bit better

open glacier
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I think his passive AD gain and Dmg needs to be turned down along side his R dmg

manic osprey
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but, bc its on his q blade, there is counterplay to it

open glacier
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Either that or the Armor Shred on E

hearty willow
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I don't think that's the problem

manic osprey
hearty willow
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but why

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You can go second wind + d shield and play for short trades vs him

manic osprey
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you need to play around it

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and youre fine

hearty willow
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depending on who you play

past barn
manic osprey
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you can make the same argumetn saying some champs have way too much frontloaded damage, like riven

hearty willow
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So you're gonna come back on top if he doesn't hit his Qs after a while you can just kill him

hearty willow
manic osprey
hearty willow
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who legit outheals damage level 1?

manic osprey
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but i dont think thats a good change either

manic osprey
hearty willow
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Why are we complaining about Darius when warwick is a bigger menace to begin with

manic osprey
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i can agree

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darius is strong rn

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because riot buffed him in the wrong way last time

open glacier
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darius is stupidly strong

hearty willow
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I mean he is strong but you can still play around him

open glacier
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Like actually stupid strong

hearty willow
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he's not someone like irelia who can instantly get on top of you if you position properly

manic osprey
hearty willow
manic osprey
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you just dont know how to play against him

manic osprey
open glacier
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I do though

manic osprey
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huge misconception

manic osprey
open glacier
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I;ve played against darius over 500 times

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This isnt about me

hearty willow
manic osprey
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ok

manic osprey
open glacier
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This is generally about darius

hearty willow
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And they can't actually play

manic osprey
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low elo people cant play against darius

hearty willow
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against him

manic osprey
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but people cant play him either

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hes a low elo stomper if your smurfing but... go figure

hearty willow
manic osprey
past barn
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Darius has a simple counter

manic osprey
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ignite

hearty willow
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Nah but if you teach a gold player wave management he can abuse the shit out of darius

past barn
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Just use this counter to counter him

open glacier
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Like yea, you can play around darius, Its just for me I feel like I would like to see a rework

past barn
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That counter being him being easily kiteable

hearty willow
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Like Darius will always have some metas when he's OBNOXIOUS to play against for all ranks

open glacier
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Like hes to simple and close to garen

hearty willow
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But once you learn how to play it he's always gonna be manageable

manic osprey
manic osprey
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go and play darius

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and get back to me on that one

hearty willow
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just make him a stat checker + drain tank

manic osprey
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boring to play and play against

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hes fine

hearty willow
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so we can complain about him being a stat checker + drain tank level 1

manic osprey
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he doesnt need changes really

open glacier
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Hmm

manic osprey
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but what i suggested i think would be good

open glacier
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Changes Id make to darius

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For me, what sounds cool

hearty willow
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@manic osprey question about a Darius Match-up

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would darius or trundle win lv 1

manic osprey
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mhm

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depends what summs trundle has

hearty willow
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Considering Trundle sacks your AD

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flash ign most times

manic osprey
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if trundle has ghost ignite tempo

hearty willow
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From what I'm aware

manic osprey
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then id say trundle might

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but if trundle doesnt have ghost darius will win it

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because he just autospaces him

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which is how you win p much any right click 1v1 as darius

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lvl 1

hearty willow
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I guess then that's just a better player wins moment

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Because not everyone will auto space properly so

manic osprey
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its literally just a ''does trundle have ghost and tempo?'' ''can darius autospace?''

open glacier
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Idk I would like to see darius be more of a bruiser you know?

manic osprey
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he isnt enough?

hearty willow
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is he not a bruiser what?

manic osprey
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thats kinda in line with what i suggested earlier already

open glacier
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To me hes just a fucking high heatlh idiotic dmg dealer

hearty willow
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I SWEAR DARIUS IS ONE OF THE MOST TRADITIONAL BRUISERS

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You can find

manic osprey
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why we are even bothering

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talking

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i mean i gotta go out ina sec anyway so thats it from me but keep whining ig

hearty willow
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I mean Darius without ghost in team fights is gonna be useless

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If you cc him he's completely useless in any fight

brisk sonnet
hearty willow
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I've never seen a Darius do too much shit without ghost

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after laning

cobalt bridge
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Og message deleted stHmm

open glacier
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i didnt, delete it so idk

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I just feel like Id like to see a mid scope update kinda thing

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Like what they did with swain

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Just a few little changes to spice him up or sum

brisk sonnet
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So what is your issue

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A rework to nerf him?

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Or a rework to buff him?

open glacier
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Im not saying hes OP in anyway. I just think his kit makes his lvl 1 cancer

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Thats all

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and

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because I like darius

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and want to see him get a mid scope

brisk sonnet
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But in what mind would you fight a lvl 1 Darius

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When he is one of the best lvl 1 champs out there

past barn
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Wtf is one supposed to do for a darius mid scope

open glacier
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Idk

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Would still like to see one

past barn
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What can be improved to make his gameplay feel better to play as

hearty willow
past barn
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If there isn't any why wish for a midscope

hearty willow
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trundle 100% as Louiee agreed on it earlier

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Those are the 2 champions who I can think that have a chance to solo kill darius lv 1

queen lark
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darius is deadass easy to beat

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darius players underestimate enemies so hard