IYO, is kindred good in low elo?

[tribal oracle]

I'm a kindred otp and would like to see some opinions on the champ
Low elo being <plat

[arctic flicker]

its a super snowbally champion so yeah

but any mistakes can doom your game

[near hawk]

Kindred is good but it seems like a lot of things in her kit heavily rely on her stacks

[tribal oracle]

Main thing is her range, q attack speed is also important

[patent cobalt]

care because most of the times ennemy will play for your mark but not your mates

[unkempt willow]

From what I’ve played, she’s not bad, she can def carry

But your gonna either need a team that knows what kindred does(mainly the mid laner) or just hope the enemies are dumber than your team when it comes to kindred

[patent cobalt]

imo she's strong in the actual meta

[unkempt willow]

I think she’s good too

Her dueling is quite strong and she scales well

Just kinda team reliant

[heavy sinew]

Kindred is good, but I don’t recommend her in anything below diamond.

To begin with, she is an adc; you’d at least need a fair bit of mechanics to play her to a decent degree.

Alongside that, you’d need to play around lane states and priorities to take marks, otherwise you get outranged by anyone who isn’t Lucian.

[supple oyster]

kindreds good if youre good at her

if you suck at her then she sucks

[heavy sinew]

I don’t recommend her in low elo as she:
Has nothing to fall back to (if she is behind)
Extremely easy to throw with (literally anyone can burst her down)
Requires marks for mid game
Needs phenomenal teamfighting understanding
And good mechanics as a minimum.

[patent cobalt]

like all champ

[supple oyster]

yeah thats my point

every champs good if you can carry

its soloq

youre asking if kindred is good in low elo and its like, everythings good in low elo cuz it doesnt matter

[heavy sinew]

Low elo players from all roles don’t understand how to position, how to teamfight, how to track and counter gank/equal enemy jungler.

If you’re low elo, other champs are much better.

You might like her, but it’s very easy for players to just ruin you, or you just fail either mechanically, or not understanding spell usage from the enemy team.

[supple oyster]

yeah but thats not the question

the question was, is kindred good in low elo

[heavy sinew]

Kindred also has some autolose match ups, such as Kha’zix and Rengar.

[supple oyster]

the answer is yes, if you actually are good at her

[heavy sinew]

Anything is good in low elo, provided it’s the pilot that is good.

Champions are based on their player.

[supple oyster]

yeah so the questions answered

[heavy sinew]

But, low elo players aren’t good.

Therefor, Kindred is not good.

[supple oyster]

we are speaking relative

[tribal oracle]

Im not low elo btw

[heavy sinew]

I didn’t say you were?

[supple oyster]

if youre good at kindred relative to your rank then shes good

[tribal oracle]

I was just clarifying

[supple oyster]

its as simple as 123

[heavy sinew]

She’s very good, but there’s other champs with better time investments than Kindred honestly.

[supple oyster]

but again

thats not the question

[tribal oracle]

Also, yeah, if you actually try to rank up with kindred in low wlo and can't, then you are gonna stay there until you get better

[supple oyster]

the question isnt about other champs

its about kindred

champs have different skill floors so yes, if you suck at kindred u dont climb

if youre good at her u climb

[tribal oracle]

Yeah, one thing I don't like abt the champ even though i love them is the fact that 90% of meta champs counter

Like lee sin, master yi, etc...

[supple oyster]

meta doesnt matter until the highest of high elo

even though meta is stronger than your champs on paper there are plenty of mistakes to be taken advantage of to win

[tribal oracle]

Eh, but it still sucks to get something like a lee sin kr a kha zix and suffer for the rest of the game, unless ur in elos below master in which many mistakes are made that cost you the game

Even IN master many people commit game losing mistakes

[supple oyster]

game losing mistakes happen on both sides at all elos

[tribal oracle]

Yes but theyre frequent in elos where people have way less game sense and map awereness

Idk how to write that word

[supple oyster]

yes, lower elos make more mistakes

higher elos will punish harder and make less mistakes

[marble peak]

not a great champ in low elo because she requires a relatively advanced level of jungle tracking to utilize her strengths

great in high elo though

[magic cradle]

isnt that true for most ADC's through?

most ADCs are easy to burst down

[uncut fractal]

The problem with kindred isn’t how good she is it’s how demanding she is.

To do well, Kindred wants you to get stacks, and it’s very, very easy for a focused enemy team to deny that. Junglers will communicate with their laners to clear camps, and those with marks will keep an eye on their backsides.

Her ult is also very… there’s a word im looking for and it’s escaping me, not niche, not bad, but requires very specific usage to get the mileage you need out of it.

Past all that though, she’s a very fast, very mean, and surprisingly difficult to kill marksman.

[magic cradle]

master yi and lee sin isnt really meta right now

[magic cradle]

i mean does she snowball hard?

if she does its not gonna be easy to deny her the marks

if she's like akali where its literally one shot in the late game

[uncut fractal]

If she can consistently gain stacks, absolutely. All of her tools scale off her stacks, so getting a lot, especially early, helps her a lot in the long run.

[magic cradle]

you are not gonna be denying her marks

[uncut fractal]

Kindred is a champ who’s only as good as her player. Do her right, and she won’t do you wrong.

[magic cradle]

is she a bot laner through?

i see more kindred junglers than bot lane

[uncut fractal]

It’s almost like she’s a jungler or something.

Her entire passive is 60% based around killing jungle camps for her stacks, what do you think?

[sand flower]

A friend stopped playing kindred low elo (<plat) bc he said no one understands how to play with the champ. (I don’t play kindred) but stuff like knowing when to fight if u have a mark up, or protecting/warding camps. But idk

[sharp kindle]

Yeah not good in low elo...Needing your teammates for marks is a bit of a misconception that is always parroted.

You just need good jungle tracking and map awareness.

[turbid yew]

kindred is fine in low elo i dont see what the problem is lmao

I think almost every jungle is fine in low elo, the only junglers I would say to avoid if you are low elo is lee sin and maybe ivern

[sharp kindle]

I only say pass in low elo because drafts are just terrible

Having no engage champs because every one chose a hyper carry never works lol

[tulip quartz]

Tedious?

[last folio]

Any champ is good if you're good

But kindred is significantly easier to play in low elo because low elo junglers lack macro and have shit jungle clear time

so invades are easy to pull off

and knowing your limits on kindred can sky rocket you to diamond since you would know if you can win a duel or not

[tribal oracle]

Yeah, im trying to push for diamond, currently plat 1

But i dont have much time atm so i havent been able to play a lot of ranked

Whenever i do play its usually with friends so ranked is only when both no one is online and i have free time

[sharp kindle]

oh plat 1, yeah thats fine lol

[umbral karma]

kindred prob one of the best low elo junglers yea

[flint tide]

kindred is great in low elo cuz most players react to her ult Wrong

[tulip quartz]

I see so many players walk out of her R when almost dead

[tribal oracle]

This is normally in normal game

In ranked I rarely see that