why I think garen and Darius needs nerf

[vale light]

Most top laners today don’t have much of a issue with Darius as they used too

[gray heath]

I think they can't buff Darius or Garen because of low elo

[languid forum]

You can put the thumbs up away

[languid forum]

But if he went from the moet broken thing to not the most broken thing

That’s good?

[vale light]

Darius was only broken with stride breaker

[languid forum]

Why’s that

[vale light]

He was 40% ban rate because he was a strong pick

[languid forum]

Still is

[gray heath]

because they stomp low elo

[languid forum]

Just less I guess

[vale light]

And beated Majority top lanes

[languid forum]

Yes and no

I’ve looked a bit deeper into it

And I think he needs a small overhaul or just plain buffs and nerfs

[vale light]

Pretty sure his BR atm is 12% or something

[languid forum]

His wr is way higher in high elo than low

[languid forum]

Among top 3 most banned top laners

[vale light]

Is he let me check

[gray heath]

I think high elo use it to counter pick that's probably why

[languid forum]

Probably

[gray heath]

nobody in high elo blind pick Darius

[vale light]

Well I take that back

30%

[languid forum]

Can’t tell but according to Lou they play him “differently”

Low elo you can do what you want and get away with it only top sucks in low elo

[vale light]

Yeah Darius actually requires skill.

Then people think he does

[languid forum]

He doesn’t

There’s one thing that makes him harder than Darius and that’s mana

[vale light]

To play yes

[languid forum]

His R makes him way easier kill wise

[vale light]

But to consistent carry no

[gray heath]

Darius isn't hard

[languid forum]

Not at all

[vale light]

He isn’t hard

But he isn’t easy

[languid forum]

But he has different styles and they all sort of work

[vale light]

He’s in the middle

[gray heath]

kinda easy

[languid forum]

For top lane he’s easy

Maybe in general sure

Top has hard champs

[vale light]

You can definitely tell a good Darius from a bad Darius based on how they take trades

[languid forum]

Yup

[gray heath]

you need to know some 2 or 3 basic things and all other is LoL general things

[vale light]

Which is what I’m implying

[languid forum]

But bad ones still get off fine compared to other champs being played “wrong”

[vale light]

Yeah cause in lower elos people just let him stack for free

And fight him even at 5 stacks

[languid forum]

Yeah but he can also just get free stacks

They let him get more than he should but one pull or slow is free 2-4 stacks depending on what he’s up against

[vale light]

And your teammates will literally spam you to fight him even if you are on 4 stacks of his passive

[languid forum]

Which means R does way more damage if it’s up

Dunno about that they cry cause I’m not roaming to bot

Jungler will run into him under his tower when he’s 6 at max stacks

[vale light]

Yeah if your playing a tank a good Darius will just take phase rush and run you down even more

[languid forum]

Fun

Fun for the whole family

He’s a lane bully that scales too well with the strongest type of R that resets

[vale light]

Which phase rush he procs incredibly fast

[languid forum]

Fine

I suppose so

[vale light]

But I still want him buffed in one thing and you’ll understand what it is

If he kills something without his R at max lvl it resets the cooldown of it

You know how his max R rank up works right

[languid forum]

Yeah

Way too good

[vale light]

Well I feel like you are too punished for not getting the killing blow with it

[languid forum]

No

There’s no need for a better execute

It’s already so strong the reset is just an extra bonus

If you fuck it up in team fights later on it’s your fault

[vale light]

Which I agree

[languid forum]

Almost impossible to do if only you’re extremely impatient

[vale light]

But at times just getting the true dmg off so someone is low enough is also good

[languid forum]

Yeah

Legit the only thing I’ve seen with Darius is that you can struggle with mana

[vale light]

Which is what I mean by his R max level resets on any kill outside of ult

[hearty meteor]

i feel like ur getting darius and garen mixed up, bc darius never ever takes phase rush

[vale light]

True

One of the few juggernauts with mana

[languid forum]

If you’re trading often enough you don’t always have the mana to finish someone with R and late game that’s completely gone

[vale light]

And honestly I thought Darius would build winters before S12 hit

No he doesn’t

[languid forum]

his mana cost only punished heavy trades into R

[hearty meteor]

darius doesnt rlly struggle with mana past a certain minute

[languid forum]

The costs of every thing is so low you can barely count it unless you spam abilities

Also true

But still that possible issue is just gone late game

[hearty meteor]

he barely struggles with mana early as well, as long as ur not spamming shit to spam shit then ur fine lmao

[languid forum]

In case je happens to be low on mana it won’t even matter

[languid forum]

What I said but still if you’re trading against an aggressive laner or have to take them down you cant always finish it with R

Not sure if I used the right term it’s really late

His costs are low except for R

Hell E gets cheaper

[hearty meteor]

ye

anyways, just came into say that darius doesnt take phase rush

[languid forum]

In theory it sounds like it can work

[hearty meteor]

it doesnt

[languid forum]

If you say no I’ll believe you

[hearty meteor]

he misses a lot from not going conq

[gray heath]

you are the only EUW that I saw that late lol

[languid forum]

You’re French?

[gray heath]

yes

[languid forum]

Lmao

Same time zone

[hearty meteor]

why i said i think hes getting garen and darius mixed up

garen takes phase rush, darius doesnt

[languid forum]

All right

No need for a special build on Darius

Stick with conq and aa with ghost

If someone’s fast

[gray heath]

a good Garen take ghost too

[tame inlet]

why is this thread still active

[gray heath]

just chilling

[languid forum]

Always?

[gray heath]

yes

[languid forum]

flash too or

[gray heath]

some play with flash but personally I prefer ignite

[languid forum]

Ok

Guess that works

[gray heath]

But i'm not high elo flash is probably better in high elo

people don't respect ignite in low elo

[languid forum]

And in high elo players don’t actually fight

They barely touch each other all top lane is is who last hits better

[hearty meteor]

its flash ignite

[languid forum]

High elo?

Can’t run them down can you

With good positioning

[hearty meteor]

flash ignite or flash tp are best

[gray heath]

rly not

[hearty meteor]

according to d2+

[gray heath]

i'm talking about good Garen

[languid forum]

Glaive’s a banger fraxx

Nice

[hearty meteor]

yessir

[languid forum]

Fuck this down👌

I’m gonna take a guess and say it comes down to playstyle

Or match up reliant

[vale light]

Into tanks other match ups no

That’s when a dar will take phase rush

[gray heath]

uh you don't rly play for matchup normally

[hearty meteor]

darius never takes phase rush lmao

[languid forum]

You play to just bully

[hearty meteor]

again

u lose too much value NOT going conq

the only other rune u can rlly go is possibly lethal tempo

[languid forum]

Ah yes

[tame inlet]

these threads make me tempted to make a thread on saying that the game is actually pretty good and balanced and see the vitriol and copium this community has

[languid forum]

Also use rapid fire cannon and then hit over thin walls

[languid forum]

People will complain and I don’t care

[vale light]

Why not phase.

Champs like cho Sion Orrn maokai malphite mundo cannot get your off them if you proc it

[gray heath]

imo you need conq or maybe lethal stats for rly be a lane bully

[languid forum]

Different point of views too

[hearty meteor]

into champs like cho, sion, ornn, mao, malph, mundo its better to go conq cause of the longer fights lmfao

[tame inlet]

no because this community like to say this game is awful and blame it on the game and not their bad performance

[languid forum]

I agree it’s in a balanced enough state but that doesn’t mean I don’t want changes

[hearty meteor]

this game isnt awful idk

[languid forum]

Agreed

But cope

[tame inlet]

that's why I'm tempted to make a thread saying this game is pretty good

[hearty meteor]

ppl complain about balance but id rather have game unabalanced than balanced lmfao

[languid forum]

Sure

There’s been a few

[tame inlet]

just so I can gather how people view this game is

[gray heath]

tank don't rly have enough mobility anyway so it don't need phase rush

[languid forum]

How much tho

[vale light]

In early laning conqueror isn’t as needed against tanks as Darius.

Mid late game yeah it is but early Darius just sustains through Q

[hearty meteor]

?????????

[vale light]

Cause like I said

[languid forum]

Why should he use phase?

[vale light]

He just runs them down easily

[tame inlet]

it's actually cancer because I have a pretty good experience on this game and I've been told the game is shit but I've still had a good experience

[hearty meteor]

just take ghost????

[languid forum]

Cause if it’s to run tanks down you can’t really do that

[hearty meteor]

darius takes ghost flash/ignite flash

[languid forum]

Average game fan

Take any (online) game people will say that

[hearty meteor]

just go ghost and ur phase rush is no longer needed lmao

[vale light]

Oh yeah no phase rush ghost your trolling

[tame inlet]

and people tell me it will turn me into a toxic psychopath but the only thing that makes me a psycho is having the opposite opinion this community has

[languid forum]

That’s overkill yes

[vale light]

I mean if you want TP or something else

[hearty meteor]

im def trolling saying to take ghost on darius 💀

[tame inlet]

I just deal with bullshit better

[gray heath]

for what ?

[languid forum]

Cope

Kidding

[gray heath]

what could be better than ghost on Darius

[languid forum]

This game can take a toll on your mental health but only as much as you’re letting it

Again goes for a lot of online games

[hearty meteor]

ghost flash/ignite flash is literally darius best summoner spells

mainly ghost flash

[tame inlet]

people tilting and telling me I will tilt and make me toxic is just saying how fragile your mental is

[languid forum]

League is bigger and I’ll agree it’s more toxic generally

[vale light]

Phase rush is just to run down slow immobile Champions who struggle to get champions off them

[languid forum]

Some people shouldn’t touch online games

[hearty meteor]

u can run ppl down with ghost!

[vale light]

Phase rush isn’t on a 3 minute cooldown

[hearty meteor]

phase rush is also worse!

[gray heath]

tanks are the only immobile melee champion

[languid forum]

Well he has a pull and slow no need for more ms

[tame inlet]

whenever someone does a bad gank I just ping once and just sigh

and the most I'll type is "why"

[vale light]

Yeah but most champs can just slow or CC him away

[tame inlet]

if I do something bad I blame it on myself and not try to defend it's not my fault

[hearty meteor]

which is why u take ghost

[languid forum]

Honestly I’d love that answer if my gankm fails

[vale light]

@hearty meteor I want you to go into practice tool and see how easy it is to proc it on Darius

[hearty meteor]

ok but conq >>>

[languid forum]

Ghost for that one kill and you win lane

[hearty meteor]

??

[languid forum]

Great mindset im working on it

[hearty meteor]

majority if not every game that ppl lose

its their fault

[gray heath]

that's not the problem

[hearty meteor]

or partially their fault

and ppl dont realize that

xd

[tame inlet]

I'm just honestly tired of people telling me or others that they'll turn into a toxic psychopath

instead of telling them actual ways to deal with the bullshit the players will do

[languid forum]

Not everyone does it’s a fairly small portion that gets more attention

[tame inlet]

it's surprising just how few and extensive ways people will tell anti-tilt methods

it's always "just /mute all lol"

[vale light]

Yeah and they never apply it themselves

[languid forum]

Band aid fix

[tame inlet]

like yeah that's a good start... what else

[hearty meteor]

just focus on urself

[tame inlet]

what if someone makes a bad move?

do you just /mute all then?

[hearty meteor]

ur the only variable in games u can control

[tame inlet]

it's just stupid

[hearty meteor]

so just focus on urself

instead of others

[tame inlet]

I'm doing that

[vale light]

Teammates reply

Your bad

Rope

“DDDDDIIIIIIFFFFFFF

[hearty meteor]

its what i do, and its what ive used to climb

[languid forum]

I had a teammate today who was doing “I’m starting red” “I’m gonna back”

[hearty meteor]

also if u rlly wanna win

like

ranked

[languid forum]

Mute them done

[hearty meteor]

just baby sit them

as annoying as it is

its a legit strat to win

xd

[tame inlet]

my only problem is that I can get bored easily and sometimes I make really bad mistakes

I've did something when I was behind but it wasn't much

[languid forum]

Don’t let that impact you or mute just them

[hearty meteor]

u dont even need to mute

u can keep chat on

[tame inlet]

I've died 4 times against Jax as Sett because of bad moves and ganked twice at those times

and what I did was just

[hearty meteor]

u just need to not have shit mental and get tilted from what ppl say xd

[tame inlet]

not build damage items

and built tank

[languid forum]

Smart

[tame inlet]

and try to peel

[gray heath]

Abusing the worst player in the enemy is definitely a good strategy to win

[hearty meteor]

^^

just gank on repeat

their mental will be gone by the like

4th gank

[tame inlet]

and Jax always pushed top lane alone so my team just piled on him no matter if two people died

I tried to help my team

also the enemy bot lane wasn't doing great so I abused them too

didn't matter if I was 0/6 at least I helped

[languid forum]

I ignore some of the crybabies cause the don’t understand being 0/5 at 6 mins and 3 lvls behind isn’t gankable

[hearty meteor]

i just babysit ppl who are threatening to int

[tame inlet]

and the last teamfight I managed to do a big ult on them

[hearty meteor]

mainly in ranked

[tame inlet]

which lead to a win

[hearty meteor]

if its norms idc

[vale light]

Except some people even if you refuse to help them not because you don’t want too.

Because their lane isn’t gankable or you have better gankable lanes

[languid forum]

Plus tank sett means more W damage

[vale light]

And flame your for not ganking their lane

That your champion can’t functionally gank

[tame inlet]

I should honestly try more methods of dealing with being behind

[hearty meteor]

i literally had a kaisa

[tame inlet]

I guess that's just my first step

[hearty meteor]

get rlly tilted, threatening to int, didnt care if she lost lp, proceeded to still try after saying "ur better, just play" over and over again xd

[languid forum]

Ah yes

[tame inlet]

I also /mute all in the Sett game just in case someone was flaming or pinging me

[languid forum]

The “I’m gonna int and afk farm” then proceeds to split push and be helpful

[hearty meteor]

she still team fought

was the most fed one on our team

[terse citrus]

lmao

[hearty meteor]

she went afk for like 3 mins

[languid forum]

Too much is going on

[hearty meteor]

bc our 2/8 graves stole red from her

[languid forum]

Lmao

Typical

[hearty meteor]

both had gigantic egos

was rlly cringe to play with

but thats diamond for u

xd

[languid forum]

More cringe than egirls?

[hearty meteor]

yes

[languid forum]

Oh

Okay

[hearty meteor]

d4 is impossible to play w

[languid forum]

I’ll make sure to stay in plat 1 once I’m there

[hearty meteor]

its a cess pool

rlly disgusting players with nothing but ego

[languid forum]

I’ve heard

So you too huh

🤨🤨

[hearty meteor]

no!

im just waiting til season end

[languid forum]

Kidding kidding

[hearty meteor]

trying to keep d4

gonna go masters next season

[languid forum]

I believe

I want to hit plat before S13 but idk if I can

[tame inlet]

I planned to play ranked and get gold this season

Instead realized I still need to improve because my skills are still Bronze

[languid forum]

Lmao

[tame inlet]

so I just stuck with norms this year

[languid forum]

Pain

[tame inlet]

legit hardstuck bronze IV

[languid forum]

T_T

[tame inlet]

still need to improve but sucks

[hearty meteor]

who do u play

[languid forum]

I’m scared to get hard stuck with friends

[tame inlet]

mainly Aatrox

[languid forum]

Nice

[hearty meteor]

u watch naayil?

[languid forum]

Aatrox is so good

[tame inlet]

yeah I do

been taking some notes

[vale light]

Literally yesterday

3 minutes into game about dont clearing top jungle about to gank top

Bot: gank is bitch spam pinging

Goes top lane gets a kill

Resets clear bot then top

Gets another kill top

Bot lane spam pinging help us

Again gank top kill top

Enemy top is 0/3 in a match he should be winning

Bot lane stop helping useless top (top laner was a zac laning a Kled)

Gank top lane kill Kled for the 4th time

Bot lane “ok time to grief jungle cause he isn’t doing anything”

Gives up bot lane and follows me around rest of the game and does nothing but try to steal my camps.

Literally would’ve won the game if my adc’s and supports mental was so piss pore insanity

[languid forum]

Hello

[hearty meteor]

biggest recommendation i can give to u

[tame inlet]

like playing around summoner cooldowns

[terse citrus]

i sometimes just play ranked just to play it not even to climb, gaining LP is nice but i just wanan play but not like draft

[hearty meteor]

learn wave management

[tame inlet]

yeah I

[hearty meteor]

top is literally all wave management

[tame inlet]

can't freeze

at all

I just

[gray heath]

^

[tame inlet]

trade when the enemy makes a mistake

[vale light]

Wave management and looking at your map

[hearty meteor]

no, top is an island

[vale light]

Cause it’s the hardest lane to avoid ganks

[hearty meteor]

its decided by 3 things

[terse citrus]

when the laners are too bad to win their own lane 🙄

[hearty meteor]

1. wave management
2. counter picks
3. jg

top is the only lane that rlly gets fucked over by jg ganks

[vale light]

Also it being the easiest lane to gank

[hearty meteor]

if mid gets frozen on, or ganked, doesnt matter

[gray heath]

but also the less worth to gank

[tame inlet]

oh yeah circling back to trying to minimize deaths, I fought against a Riven who bodied me early game

[vale light]

Literally anything top can affect the out come of the lane

And people act like it doesn’t

[languid forum]

Don’t even I was mid and I got spam pinged cause I was the problem T2 turret was gone at 15 minutes
I was going equal to my opponent and the both of us never roamed

[tame inlet]

so I stopped fighting her and minimize her lead because my jungler and bot lane was uber fed

knowing they can deal with her easily than I do

so I just stopped fighting the Riven as Aatrox

only farming

[languid forum]

I love that match up

Riven and Aatrox are the same change my mind

[hearty meteor]

i would play top so much more if it wasnt so reliant on wave management

[languid forum]

Kinda same

[vale light]

Want to know something I really wish riot gave to all junglers at this point cause idk wtf it isn’t in the game with the community league has.

A toggle for who can and cannot take your camps

[hearty meteor]

top/jg has the most fun champs in the game

[tame inlet]

I've been playing bot lane lately and just tried out Kai'sa and she's fun....

....which tempts me to play bot lane

[languid forum]

I’m sorta a jungle main now cause my friend wants to play top and every random sucks

[languid forum]

Fr

[tame inlet]

....only problem is support bots are rampant

[gray heath]

take Trundle and run down enemy laner lol

[hearty meteor]

true

[languid forum]

That’s why you need a support main friend

[tame inlet]

I don't want to

I hate it

[vale light]

Laning ends teammates: your farm is ours now you don’t get to farm camps

[hearty meteor]

idk i love champs like ornn, illaoi, gwen, rengar, kha, kayn

but

[languid forum]

Yup

Viego Kayn

[hearty meteor]

i cant play either role as good as i can play mid xd

[languid forum]

Not based

Just cool kits

Voli is so sick

Sett W

[vale light]

Your playing mid lane.

15 minutes or which ever bot lane wins

Adc: your farm is mine now

[languid forum]

I also love most double form champs are jungle

[hearty meteor]

mid is so difficult to play now istg

[vale light]

They should do more of this

[languid forum]

I get to play them more often and don’t get outplayed bu myself in lane

[hearty meteor]

but it may just be me having an off week

[vale light]

Adc’s time to go mid and get my extra waves

[hearty meteor]

dude

i love love love love UDYR

[exotic cypress]

what r u guys talking about rn

[hearty meteor]

i think hes so insanely fun

[languid forum]

Nidalee is my go to

[vale light]

Yeah reworked udry looks perfect

[languid forum]

Spear and then a massive pounce

[gray heath]

good question

[hearty meteor]

im talking current udyr, i havent seen rework

[vale light]

Perfect. They kept so much the same but made it better

[languid forum]

Jungle has the best champs

[terse citrus]

my jg go to is nunu and rammus

[hearty meteor]

what ive seen it looks amazing

[exotic cypress]

top lane has the best champs

L

[languid forum]

Nunu is great

[hearty meteor]

its on par with how good fiddle rework was

[languid forum]

Top and jungle together

Sure

[terse citrus]

i play adc and mid

[vale light]

Udry rework is looking like how you rework a unique champ without changing much

[terse citrus]

i do enjoy a bit of top lane tho, i like camille

[languid forum]

Only Aphelios and draven for me

Mid vlad and recently liss

Also very fun

[hearty meteor]

bro im gonna try

and go back to perma farm vlad

[languid forum]

Do it

[vale light]

Udry is on pbe now

[terse citrus]

[hearty meteor]

nah cause i swear

[languid forum]

No ban

[hearty meteor]

im being held back/losing bc im going for random ego plays

[languid forum]

Lmao

[hearty meteor]

instead of focusing on farming

[languid forum]

Welcome to league where fun plays are mistakes

[terse citrus]

I always throw the game by egoing, something I’m tryna fix

[hearty meteor]

ive also been thinking about getting another smurf where i just go for fun instead of picking a random champ to otp to see where i can get to in rank lmfao

[vale light]

Me a Sion jungle main

Farm all my camps ult down lane kill/double kill back to farming

[terse citrus]

But like how do I resist going for a 1v3 as a fed adc

[hearty meteor]

learning shit, just having fun w/ league again

[languid forum]

It’s why I don’t play as much sett snymore

[terse citrus]

I played with a predator sion jg earlier but we lost

[languid forum]

Can’t R W into a 1v5 and expect to live

[vale light]

He needs a buff I’ll be honest

[languid forum]

Idk

[vale light]

He feels too weak atm

[languid forum]

He’s in a good spot imo

[terse citrus]

Sett and aphel seem like so much fun but sett I cannot play repeatedly(who knows I can try tommorow) and aphelios is too hard for my brain

[languid forum]

Not the best for a juggernaut but I don’t want him being overtuned

[languid forum]

Aphelios was so easy

Legit

I got him

[hearty meteor]

sett has the issue where other champs do his job better

[vale light]

Oh yeah that we can all agree release sett was not balanced

[languid forum]

5 minutes in the training tool

Done

[terse citrus]

Well maybe my brain is just built different

[languid forum]

Idk

[terse citrus]

But for me like I know what his kit does

But like I need to learn execution

[hearty meteor]

if u want actual difficult adc

draven, kalista, twitch

[languid forum]

It’s just learn the rotation

[gray heath]

I feel like actual sett is only made to bullshit some team fight with his W in late game

[terse citrus]

I hate draven, I alrdy play kalista, and twitch is just twitch

[languid forum]

from there learn the how to effectively use your Qs

[hearty meteor]

draven is good to learn imo

[terse citrus]

Basically what he comes to

[languid forum]

Draven is so much fun

[gray heath]

Draven ?

[terse citrus]

Yes

[vale light]

Twitch isn’t hard you just need to know when your strong and when your not.

Also you need to know how to play around vision

[hearty meteor]

draven is one of the most mechanically difficult adcs? lmao

[languid forum]

1300 crit dmg balanced

[hearty meteor]

twitch is difficult bc of positioning

[gray heath]

He don't feel that hard

[vale light]

That too

[gray heath]

and kinda op atm

[terse citrus]

Well ik that, he basically 2 taps everyone at 2 items but like I don’t wanna become a draven player

[languid forum]

Draven doesn’t cause he’s strong rn

[hearty meteor]

hes one of the few adcs that actually requires positioning or else u get giga fucked

[languid forum]

Still is hard just less hard to do good with and carry

[vale light]

Hell I take twitch mid which in the right hands is a terrifying pick

[terse citrus]

I mean the adcs I enjoy are kalista tristana kog maw

[languid forum]

Look at mf or smth you can do the same type of carrying without a brain

[terse citrus]

I don’t think I’ll enjoy draven

I’ve tried

[languid forum]

I love it

[gray heath]

atleast mf isn't op

[languid forum]

I got draven draven from a sg orb

[hearty meteor]

i wish i was in bronze again

[languid forum]

That’s the thing with draven rn

Also thank god she isn’t

[hearty meteor]

can literally play anything just to learn

[vale light]

Ap twitch mid is such a sleeper pick atm

[terse citrus]

Sounds like Akshan

[languid forum]

Akshan jungle is a banger

[hearty meteor]

ap twitch mid has been a thing since rat discovered it

[languid forum]

Swing into lane and revive

Leaves without explanation

[vale light]

He can’t clear the jungle

[terse citrus]

I just wanna learn aphelios cuz he seems fun and I typically enjoy characters with high learning curves like Zoe and kalista

[languid forum]

He can if you do it right which I can’t

Only the first clear

[gray heath]

Draven player starter pack :
Deal twice your dmg at lvl 1
always insult jgl and support when you die
say ggez after he win

[vale light]

Abilities too long and passive shield doesn’t proc on monsters

[terse citrus]

Then you become a douchebag

[languid forum]

Aphelios has infinite possibilities and I can say “I have infernum R let’s get a penta and they’ll go 👍”

[hearty meteor]

Draven player starter pack #2 :
Int level 1
Flame ur support
Buy mobi boots and aether wisp
Run it down mid
Be racist

[vale light]

Also 0 sustain

[languid forum]

Not me I just go LEAGUE OF DRAVEN after getting an R kill

I don’t main him that’s why

Same for Yasuo

[vale light]

I take draven top lane build ranged bruiser and bully the shit out of people

[languid forum]

The casual ones are amazing at him and chill the mains are rotten

[languid forum]

No

Out

Go away

[vale light]

Draven top is pretty good atm

[languid forum]

Very good

[terse citrus]

Anywhere I can start learning him when I get him

[languid forum]

Uhh

I started in the practise tool looking at the abilities

That was all I needed then I hopped on a match

Not sure if that was smart

[vale light]

He hard bully’s so many top lane champs

[languid forum]

There’s plenty of guides on Aphelios

[gray heath]

I think the big things to know with draven is to know where your axe goes after an AA

[terse citrus]

Don’t let top mains here you

[gray heath]

it depends of where you are kitting i think

[vale light]

I used to main top so I’m fine with this

[terse citrus]

So is it normal for me to enjoy vayne top

[vale light]

Time to show these people something they haven’t experienced yet

No vayne tops can die in a hole

[languid forum]

Teemo???

[gray heath]

atleast vayne top isn't rly a lane bully

[languid forum]

What about

[terse citrus]

Malzahar

[vale light]

Biggest coin flip in league

[languid forum]

RYZE TOP

AAA

[vale light]

However the coin is double sided saying the teemo is useless

[vale light]

Nerfed to many times and top laners today have no issue with him

[languid forum]

But we can all agree

Heim top is for the biggest virgins

Never learned top those players

[vale light]

Sion mains “yay free bonus hp”

[tame inlet]

https://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/build/12-4-koogs-complete-aphelios-guide-593621#tips best guide for beginning Aphelios players

used it last season and also in the Aphelios mains server

[vale light]

Sion gains health off his turrets and can just kick them away

[tame inlet]

and they used this in their learning aphelios channel

[terse citrus]

The counter pick

[languid forum]

You can ping your rotation and confuse teammates and laugh at wrong rotations from others

[tame inlet]

more detailed explanations just go to Aphelios mains

just don't mind the horny jail channel

[terse citrus]

Got it, will do

[vale light]

Yeah cause we need a Ted talk for this champ

[languid forum]

I facepalm at Aphelios players cause they do everything wrong

[terse citrus]

Well now I found my main reason to join it

[languid forum]

Also he has great carry potential if you just stick to your weapons

[tame inlet]

it's not completely nsfw

sorry to disappoint

[languid forum]

Uhm

[terse citrus]

Fk

[vale light]

Yeah depending what guns you set yourself up with he’s one of the best team fights in the game

[languid forum]

https://tenor.com/view/sett-aphelios-settphel-league-of-legends-lol-gif-22932132

[terse citrus]

I’ve seen more

[languid forum]

Basically my mains

[terse citrus]

Perks of being in sett server

[tame inlet]

it's also really gay and thirsty so yeah

[terse citrus]

That’s fine

[languid forum]

Can say the same

[tame inlet]

oh yeah don't forget schizos especially a person named Nimtawu

[terse citrus]

Why?

[tame inlet]

yes

he's out of line but he's right

[languid forum]

I’m not in these main servers

[tame inlet]

there are others too

they're willing to help, just don't mind the mega detailed explanations

[terse citrus]

Join them

[languid forum]

It’s Aphelios

Why

[terse citrus]

Idk

[languid forum]

I get scared for the reasons vic said

Every server

[terse citrus]

But sett server has a lot of good sett art

[languid forum]

Or “the riven server is the second most racist league server”

Yeah let’s go there

[tame inlet]

don't worry about them

[languid forum]

invite me

[terse citrus]

#related-servers

[languid forum]

Ah thx

Never seen that channel

[terse citrus]

lol I found out it to join sett and trist and sylas server

and Rakan

Now I’m in aphelios discord server

[languid forum]

Tell me

[tame inlet]

it's inactive rn

[languid forum]

Does it look all right?

[tame inlet]

but take a scroll through degeneral

[terse citrus]

What looks alright v

[languid forum]

Ugh

[terse citrus]

I’m looking in horny jail rn

[languid forum]

Clash royale spam

[languid forum]

OF COIRSE YOU DO

[tame inlet]

of course he is

[hearty meteor]

man why are all the cool people in euw

[languid forum]

Not me checking

[languid forum]

What

[terse citrus]

Leave me alone, i had to scroll so far in the sett server for all the art(I scrolled for so long h

[hearty meteor]

majority of the cool ppl from this server are euw @languid forum

[languid forum]

BWAHAHAH

I SEE

THE FUNNIRST IMAGE

In horny jail

[languid forum]

Can confirm

Not me tho 😔

I’m saving that image

[hearty meteor]

may have to just cope and play on euw with 100 smth ping

[languid forum]

Play with me

Carry me

[vale light]

No may need to attempt to play league with Donkey Kong bongos

[languid forum]

Based

[hearty meteor]

what rank r u rn

[tame inlet]

don't worry Fraxxer I'm from the Philippines and can only play on EUW and NA because Garena dislikes Apple products

[hearty meteor]

what's ur ping like

[tame inlet]

so I'm stuck with 200+ ping

[hearty meteor]

oh

[tame inlet]

it's fine

[hearty meteor]

😭

[tame inlet]

very fine

[vale light]

Im stuck with 12 lp per win and 17 per lose

[tame inlet]

I can climb

[hearty meteor]

i play with 40-50

[languid forum]

I have 10-30

[tame inlet]

I can climb trusst me guys

[terse citrus]

Horny jail isn’t that bad 🤔

[hearty meteor]

what's ur rank rn @languid forum

[tame inlet]

if you don't mind that one Ruined Draven post

[languid forum]

Legit it’s my country I get questions where I live cause my ping is low

[languid forum]

😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️

[hearty meteor]

idk what that means

[languid forum]

I’m glad but also disappointed

[terse citrus]

Where 😶‍🌫️

[tame inlet]

[terse citrus]

I mean I’ve seen like 2-3 maybe things

But otherwise it’s been pretty dandy(sadly$

Sett discord has more settphel art

[tame inlet]

gotta scroll further

[terse citrus]

I will

[languid forum]

THE GLOWING DINOSAUR IMAGE FHDJFJV

[tame inlet]

[terse citrus]

It’s tame

[tame inlet]

wdym Aphelios is just showing off his Glowing Dinosaurs to Sett in bed

[languid forum]

Im dying

I KNOW

[vale light]

[languid forum]

BUT ITS SO DUNNY

I CANT

[tame inlet]

there's nothing wrong with that

[languid forum]

GHERE ISNT

ITS JUST

I SHOILD SLEEP

[tame inlet]

no

[vale light]

[terse citrus]

Ok now I’m finding the stuff

[tame inlet]

like how this thread is just a chill zone

[terse citrus]

It went from complaining to just #league2

[languid forum]

Good

[languid forum]

Ok

Imma get either 4 or no hours and thars basically the same

[hearty meteor]

bro i woke up at 930, so 4 hours ago after going to sleep at 5

and im about to sleep again

[terse citrus]

Nice sleep schedule

[hearty meteor]

school just drained me

[terse citrus]

Oh rip

[crude cave]

Juggernauts are super strong and a bitch to kill, but they’re all held back by the same things: range and engage for all of them are pretty poor.

[terse citrus]

Schools about to start for me again 🥲

[languid forum]

Ha school

[hearty meteor]

started for me this week

[tame inlet]

good thing I'm homeschooled

[languid forum]

I have vacation for 2 months i digit what time is

[hearty meteor]

it sucks

[languid forum]

Forgot

[tame inlet]

...except I have to go to school next year now

[crude cave]

Very few juggernauts have even mid range tools, let alone long range ones

[tame inlet]

Aatrox

[languid forum]

He isn’t a juggernaut

Or is he

[crude cave]

Longest range jugg I can think of is Mundo cleaver

[languid forum]

Not just a fighter?

Mundo is a rank

Tank

[tame inlet]

Aatrox is considered a jugg

[languid forum]

Or

Ah

[tame inlet]

Mundo is considered a jugg too

[languid forum]

I seee

I see

[hearty meteor]

urgot r 🤓

[languid forum]

🥸

[tame inlet]

🤓

[languid forum]

Mundo R

[hearty meteor]

so ackshually ur wrong 🤓

[languid forum]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

Walk into base to destroy a turret without minions

Succeeds

Walks away after killing 3 enemies

[terse citrus]

Yep

Having to wake up at 5am to go do fuck all for 6 hours

[languid forum]

Hope you can rest from school tho Fraxx

[languid forum]

How long do you have to travel?? Damn

[terse citrus]

Abut 20-30 minutes

[languid forum]

Oh

[terse citrus]

School starts at 7

[languid forum]

So you jus restart

Oh damn

That’s early

Wait

[hearty meteor]

i get up at 530 for my school lmao

[languid forum]

What type of school

AAAA

I know if I had that I’d die before September was over

I could wake up at 8 my final year

[hearty meteor]

im used to it

[languid forum]

Different school

I guess

But now ur free

[hearty meteor]

i go sleep at 12-1 usually and wake up at 530

but im going to bed earlier with a lot of extra sleep

so i should have a bunch of energy tmrw hopefully

[languid forum]

Pain

[terse citrus]

Same

[languid forum]

My mental would die too

I can live with 6-7 but under that I’m dead

[terse citrus]

But I only sleep at 12 cuz I’m doing… s tu ff

[languid forum]

Might as well not sleep at all

[terse citrus]

Nah there’s a reason trust

[languid forum]

I didn’t get accepted into my study so imma work a lot

[hearty meteor]

nah i don't have any reason xd

[languid forum]

Oh I know even bits of sleep help

Well anything above 3 hours

[terse citrus]

I’ve stayed up all night twice this break. I know what’s it like to have no sleep

It’s miserable

I usually pass out anyways

[languid forum]

You can play tanks to fall asleep faster

[languid forum]

Did it too

Planning to do an all nighter with my brother playing league

[hearty meteor]

last summer was awesome ngl

[terse citrus]

Nah I just read stuff

[hearty meteor]

i remember staying up for like 60 smth hours one night

[languid forum]

How long were you awake total?

60

[hearty meteor]

well, multiple days

[languid forum]

Goddamn

I had around 40 or so

[hearty meteor]

and all i did was either league or watch yt xd

[languid forum]

How

[terse citrus]

My@mom turns WiFi off at 11pm and 10pm on school days

[languid forum]

How do you not fall asleep

[terse citrus]

Wtf

[languid forum]

Mean

[terse citrus]

Bro I can barely stay awake past 24 hours

[hearty meteor]

built diff

[terse citrus]

Damn vampire

[languid forum]

Playing a game had me be awake but legit

[hearty meteor]

im so glad my mom doesn't turn off my wifi or anything

[languid forum]

I was playing dnd with friends and I almost fell asleep the entire time

Same

[terse citrus]

I wish I could feel the same

[languid forum]

Sorry my man

Or woman

[terse citrus]

I mean I still just sit on my phone and read Bl after it turns off anyways

[terse citrus]

Man

[languid forum]

BI?

[terse citrus]

Boys love

[languid forum]

Ah

A good book before a night rest

[terse citrus]

Indeed

I sleep at 3 usually anyways

[languid forum]

Until

[hearty meteor]

and wake up at 5??

[terse citrus]

Have an alarm f.or 9 so mom doesn’t get mad I sleep in

[languid forum]

Ah

[hearty meteor]

oh nvm

[languid forum]

the suns rising 💀

Imma go I think

[hearty meteor]

bro i have to set like 12 different alarms to wake up

im such a heavy sleeper

[languid forum]

Idk if it’s better than light

Like really light

Legit have a mix of both

[terse citrus]

I wake up from 1 alarm now for some reason, idk why

[hearty meteor]

pros and cons for both

[terse citrus]

Sometimes before my alarm even goes off

[languid forum]

One time I’ll sleep through everything the other I wake up from nothing

[hearty meteor]

but like, i can prob sleep through a tornado im ngl

[languid forum]

Same

[hearty meteor]

i can sleep anywhere and through anything lmao

[languid forum]

xd you waking up after flying through the air

[terse citrus]

I can imagine you just in your bed sleeping spinning in a tornado

[languid forum]

THAT

[terse citrus]

Literally movie type stuff

[languid forum]

Reminds me of that one Pixar short

Where a dude gets abducted but doesn’t wake up at all

[hearty meteor]

more than likely would be me

[languid forum]

Literally you

Yes

[terse citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-notes-checklist-spongebob-squarepants-gif-16129592

[hearty meteor]

cause i've been carried from places to other places

[languid forum]

What does this mean

[terse citrus]

What??

[hearty meteor]

without noticing til i wake up

by family

[terse citrus]

Nothing 😊

[languid forum]

Bro is getting taken away and sleeps through it

[hearty meteor]

bro sleep is amazing

[terse citrus]

“Woah this dream is awesome, I feel like I’m flying!!”

[languid forum]

Frax actually flying

[terse citrus]

It does wonders

[languid forum]

:o

It does

[hearty meteor]

love how we took over this thread 💀

[languid forum]

Unless I fall asleep in my chair like an old man and wake up sick

Fr

Love the vibes

Gonna miss this this is the only time I’ve seen it

[hearty meteor]

we just make gc

[languid forum]

Fairs

Sounds good I wss actually thinking of that

Lemme add both of u

[terse citrus]

We own this city

[languid forum]

It’s our server now

Imma go have a goood rest of your day and night fellas

[compact scarab]

nah thats not true at all

rammus can 1v5

literally

1v5

and kill everyone if he wants to

[languid forum]

kinda

well they die by their own hands

you beat rammus by not attacking him

[compact scarab]

taunt

a rammus made me kill myself in 2 auto attacks

literally

[languid forum]

uh

who were you and how fed were they

i taunt a mf thats slightly behind and that did 20% hp at most

also ill take back my point about rammus hes really good

[compact scarab]

i was reksai

about how fed he was

well

mf ended up 26 7 12

💀

[winter atlas]

rammus is fun

[languid forum]

he is tho

but to go against its pain

too much pain.

[compact scarab]

but like

i died after 2 autoattacks

and he took no dmg

like

fr

[winter atlas]

To reduce that pain im fair and go lethal/conq if they have mages

And botrk as 2/3 item

[languid forum]

i tried full speed

can R from my entire screen

[runic depot]

rammus just got a fat buff