frosty barn
I main support and got a new account to learn ADC. Played the role for awhile getting absolutely destroyed almost every time.
I get flamed and reported every game I play, it's really discouraging. I kinda want to give up learning the role. Should I keep trying or just give up?
strong dagger
i mean if you want to learn adc go ahead
if your getting flamed and its discouraging you, the best you can do is /mute all and keep a good mental
just take a losing game or death as a lesson of what you couldve done better
not every game will be perfect, especially when your going to something like support to adc
earnest spear
I main support and got a new account to learn ADC. Played the role for awhile ge...
flash on yuumi every game
blissful bridge
spacing is a good thing to work on while playing adc
faint igloo
maybe start learning adc in norms instead of jumpng straight into ranked
also, looking at ur opgg, maybe try to minimize deaths more by positioning better or looking out for ganks
rose flax
Ok this isn’t about your adc but this is about your support.
I feel like warmogs is very overrated on Soraka.
Yes it keep you alive because you W costs health.
However it also increases your W health cost which is 15% max health if I remember.
So warmogs would be increasing the cost.
But on the other hand if you don’t ever get hit it will just keep you alive.
But that is very unrealistic in todays standards where everything is trying to jump on you.
So I feel you have better items that warmogs
Also coming from a guy that plays soraka top. Even as soraka top I wouldn’t build it
(Top lane soraka got better this patch they made top even more of a island)
faint igloo
i feel like if u can hit ur qs as soraka warmogs isnt really needed
rose flax
i feel like if u can hit ur qs as soraka warmogs isnt really needed
Trust me if your not building a enchanter healing/shielding bonus items that Q healing isn’t keeping you alive
Q healing is what make soraka top so good.
The closer you have the aoe the faster the star comes.
So if your getting ganked top and you hit 1 Star on both congrats you slow them both heal yourself double and they can’t catch you.
Also since your not spamming W (you max q) top warmogs is not needed. Unless your jungler comes for a gank which your under your tower as long as you land a q they become unkillable and the enemy laner probably won’t get away
faint igloo
im just commenting on why warmogs isnt that needed, since q healing pretty much makes up for the health lost in w
wary lantern
oh is this the same person who got boosted to plat by their challenger friend xd
faint igloo
who
wary lantern
op
im just gonna ignore blightknights bullshit about warmogs being overrated on soraka, when its not
faint igloo
why not?
wary lantern
soraka mainly builds into moonstone redemption warmogs
0 reason to build it second bc u dont have enough health to get passive
wary lantern
ye i thought so
placid thicket
after like 5 different people told them why thats really bad
wary lantern
didnt realize their friend who was obviously high elo wasnt challenger
rose flax
im just commenting on why warmogs isnt that needed, since q healing pretty much ...
You can’t ever first item warmogs since you need 1100 bonus health.
But support items are too valuable to soraka so your forcing yourself to buy a item that soraka usually would never buy in order to get the passive
Also in the recent soraka game he played. He couldn’t even use the item because he was short. 25 bonus health. Unless he had runes giving him health. Warmogs was not even working
@wary lantern since you only play Vladimir.
I’m going to explain sorakas W for you and tell you why you shouldn’t do it
Sorakas W costs mana and 15% of her max health unless she recently hit champion with her Q.
If your building warmogs sorakas your not trying to land Q’s your trying to stay as far back as possible so you can just be a heal bot.
Problem with warmogs is you need 1100 bonus health. Warmogs give 800. So you need 300 more.
Problem is most of the enchanter items don’t give much bonus health.
The items that do give health are non enchanter items.
Moonstone gives 200 but you need 100 more. So your forcing yourself to by another item that gives health. And most of the time it doesn’t give any healing/shield power. Which is what makes sorakas heals more powerful.
That’s why enchanter items are too important for her.
Also if you are hit by anything warmogs is out put in cooldown for 3 seconds and 6 seconds if it’s a champion
wary lantern
Problem with warmogs is you need 1100 bonus health. Warmogs give 800. So you need 300 more.
Problem is most of the enchanter items don’t give much bonus health.
Moonstone gives 200 but you need 100 more. So your forcing yourself to by another item that gives health. And most of the time it doesn’t give any healing/shield power. Which is what makes sorakas heals more powerful.
dumbass
rose flax
Also supports always have the lowest gold income
wary lantern
why do you think redemption is built second 💀
dont type if u dont even know what soraka builds
rose flax
Yeah want too know how much gold warmogs is?
3000 gold
Congrats that’s literally 1/2 of a supports income in almost all their games
rose flax
Yeah and by the time supports have their 3rd item the game is basically already over
Unless they are taking kills
Which soraka is rarely ever killing anyone
Tell me how often a enchanter support reaches 8200 gold by the end of games
While they are also purchasing wards for their team
@wary lantern clearly someone doesn’t know how enchanter income works
wary lantern
literally just cant respond rn cause im perma carrying in gold
faint igloo
rose flax
@wary lantern Is it on enchanters tell me when you get moonstone/remdemptiom/warmogs pre 30 minutes
rose flax
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But yeah what I explained above is why you don’t build warmogs on soraka
wary lantern
why you dont
3rd item warmogs every game in d2+ btw
rose flax
@wary lantern I don’t see that all I see is Vladimir
faint igloo
ive always assumed warmogs was not the best on raka cus i watched a yt vid on it a while ago
wary lantern
it is good
its like tank veigar, u dont expect her to sustain ur dmg
goes out of fight and heals it all up
faint igloo
tank veigars a thing?
wary lantern
ye tank veig supp is rlly rlly good
played 20 games of it in ranked and had a 70~% wr
he has insane pressure in lane bc of e
rose flax
tank veigars a thing?
No no
I still remember the terror of season 11 my support locking in veigar and I see locket
Please don’t ever bring this pick back unless your going full ap
wary lantern
https://gyazo.com/a51a5f854426f8c5e643281ac03e3a13 its literally freelo lol
strong dagger
no
rose flax
@wary lantern please tell your trolling.
If you really think full tank support veigar was good. I really wonder how tf you climbed.
strong dagger
veigar is freelo
rose flax
veigar is freelo
Predator veigar mid yep
Support veigar is mainly a counter pick
@wary lantern I don’t care what you say about this pick.
Full tank veigar was completely troll, the only thing you did was throw your cage. Even though you had the infinite ap scaling you were completely useless otherwise and because your only Ap income was your passive you literally did no
Enchanters would out dmg this ffing pick
wary lantern
tank veig supp was literally never about the dmg
if u dont understand that
then stop typing now
rose flax
Oh yes tank veigar was only about the cage
So tell me wtf would I go tank anyway
When my job would just be spam 1 ability and be useless otherwise
wary lantern
do u understand
how good
veigar e is
in teamfights
and being able to perma spam it
?
not to mention being a target bc ppl think ur squishy
when ur not
?
rose flax
Yeah and anyone with a brain will just simply play around it
rose flax
Unless your iron-bronze where you literally walk up to the edge
Voli the guy who’s a giant meat shield who runs at you and autos you. That’s literally all he does.
wary lantern
ur so delusional if u genuinely think voli a few patches ago wasnt piss broken
0 point talking to u
rose flax
Who’s been out for 2 years
@wary lantern stay away from anything not related to Vlad please. Your sucking at everything else not related to him.
Get it it’s a Vlad joke
rose flax
I’m sorry you suck at anything not related to Vlad. No wonder you only play him across 6 accounts.
Get it Vlad joke
strong dagger
makin my blood boil
strong dagger
currently smurfing in ur elo
bronze?? 😱
strong dagger
oh not me
wary lantern
so not exactly his elo
faint igloo
why are u building frozen heart on kaisa
wary lantern
they dont know what theyre doing
wary lantern
yup, they hit plat on supp acc through boost
quiet burrow
If ur gonna get boosted at least go to diamond….
faint igloo
qss yuumi with flash
faint igloo
in all seriousness it’s cause ur a support main and because of that ur legit dogshit at any other role. u gotta remove like 4 ranks from ur main rank. if ur dia then u play at a bronze lvl
strong dagger
in all seriousness it’s cause ur a support main and because of that ur legit dog...
I mean people said they were a boosted support
faint igloo
I mean people said they were a boosted support
i didn’t read the whole thread, it’s just that’s why they suck at any other role
support as a role boosts people
merry heath
support as a role boosts people
tru, imagine needing a boost playing it when its already an elo-inflated role XD
faint igloo
in all seriousness it’s cause ur a support main and because of that ur legit dog...
i mean sure sup is elo inflated but like they wouldnt be getting flamed and reported if they had a decent build and didnt feed that hard
and you cant really say its that elo inflated lol
non duoboosted diamond sups still play at a higher level than bronze players
maybe not as much higher than any other role, but theyre not bronze
velvet scroll
For starters don't play a champion like kaisa in adc if your just starting the role. Kaisa requires you to have fast movement and good timing on everything you do. Instead play champions like MF Jhin Siver even Veigar. Slower paced champions is a good start. the ones I listed are even pretty strong too. Next /MuteAll Ignore other people when it comes to you learning. Just make sure the outcome no matter what is you learning something new to improve every game
gilded parrot
at early experience heading right into ranked, youre actually setting yourself to be stuck when you actually get good
just play who you want. dont listen to what everyone tells you and just be yourself and have fun with the game.
faint igloo
and you cant really say its that elo inflated lol
yes i can, any high elo supp main(if they play enchanters) are so fucking elo boosted and play like dogshit every single time
to use a well known figure, ratirl, he constantly complains about every support main he gets and has said numerous times that he would rather an auto filled support instead of a support main
merry heath
Using ratirl in an argument isnt usually going to win you one lool. To be fair, supps r boosted but only about an elo or 2, probably not as extreme as what u said
Enchanters require 0 mechanics, and every champ in the group bar for yuumi has historically had a high overall wr in the patch. Having some game sense is the onl real skill u need lol
good thing they finally got nerfed :) (just for the lowest enchanter in the group other than yuumi to be at 49.5% wr, which is pretty playable still lool)
hoary blade
Y'all overestimate how easy support is
Play some support and then talk please
Acting like paying support is going to make you diamond, is massive copium
merry heath
support is hard
strong dagger
It’s very hard clicking W on soraka
night summit
because enchanter mains are possibly the most unskilled players there are and when they try to play an actually skilled role they get assblasted like ahri on the hub, its disgusting how players like you can get away with your afk playstyle. nerf fucking enchanters. until then, stick to playing the afk degenerates
strong dagger
because enchanter mains are possibly the most unskilled players there are and wh...
Flash Yuumi 
frosty barn
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Twitter
faint igloo
Flash Yuumi <:poggies:617737177253806090>
Flash yuumi + zhonyas yuumi
such a skillful player
who doesn’t understand league at all
but they win because their role and champs
amazing
strong dagger
Flash yuumi + zhonyas yuumi
It gives ap 🤓
strong dagger
https://twitter.com/royalwinsmid/status/1553010920863027201?t=a-4r2EuM344HXwZeDd...
So motivational
faint igloo
It gives ap 🤓
yes yes very good item
frosty barn
Don't forget my qss yuumi!! ❤️
faint igloo
so u can hop off ur team and go into stasis and then insta die
strong dagger
Don't forget my qss yuumi!! ❤️
But why
Like genuinely curious
Why you build the stuff you do
wary lantern
they dont know what theyre doing
.
faint igloo
because support players are fucking boosted and don’t know how to play the game
but it works out
iron sapphire
warmog yuumi 😋
wary lantern
because support players are fucking boosted and don’t know how to play the game
this one... literally
strong dagger
Maybe, but I wanna know the big brain thought process of the mastermind
frosty barn
Warmog soraka is good! on yuumi its nad lol~
strong dagger
Warmog soraka is good! on yuumi its nad lol~
Pls tell me
faint igloo
Maybe, but I wanna know the big brain thought process of the mastermind
there isn’t, they just buy whatever and get carried by champs
they all deserve to be perma banned
frosty barn
perma banned for playing enchanters lol~
faint igloo
yes they don’t deserve to have access to the game
frosty barn
umm ok i dont play this game much anyway
strong dagger
umm ok i dont play this game much anyway
Ok but I’m still curious as to the choices in items
faint igloo
Ok but I’m still curious as to the choices in items
because they don’t have brains
faint igloo
yeah
strong dagger
Oh boots yuumi
faint igloo
Oh boots yuumi
as we said they don’t think
faint igloo
esp when ur playing yuumi
or any enchanter
they ask for advice then ignore all of it
wary lantern
which is what happened with the last post they made
asked for advice
got advice
completely ignored everything
just boosted enchanter things
faint igloo
idk theyre playing hullbreaker kaisa in ranked going 4/16 and wondering why theyre getting flamed and reported
as i said all enchanter mains deserve to get perma banned
merry heath
as i said all enchanter mains deserve to get perma banned
xd a bit of a stretch, but this specific case i agree. i feel like the OP has to be trolling on purpose right? theres no way a real human is making these choices
faint igloo
can we just talk about the fact u have flash on yuumi? if u cant play yuumi properly imagine trying to play adc
strong dagger
can we just talk about the fact u have flash on yuumi? if u cant play yuumi prop...
They build qss on Yuumi
So who knows
faint igloo
?????? nah man isnt this reportable
in season 5 i dont remember silvers being this bad tbh
its not that they dont know its bad
theyve been told many times
theyre just stubborn
strong dagger
They gotta be trolling or something, I don’t think it’s very hard to just click recommended buy for All 2 items
And it doesn’t take much brainpower to realize qss is good on Yuumi who’s untargetabke 90% of the fame
hoary blade
in season 5 i dont remember silvers being this bad tbh
Nah silvers are just as bad this season
Some of the opggs of the silver players I seen from this server
hoary blade
Are they that bad
Yepp sometimes in #league you would see someone screenshot the post game lobby, and the builds you see are something else. Also the rant threads you see, will sometimes have the most random builds
On their opgg history
quiet burrow
>asked for advice
>got advice
>completely ignored everything
its just that when people who are low elo post asking for advice 90% of the times they don't want advice they want someone to tell them its not their fault they can't climb
warped shoal
ad is a harder role than support. if ur going to role swap from support to ad u have to realize that u are effectively promoting yourself a few ranks in terms of ur competition and u will have better opponents. there's no magic trick here, you just have to get better
respect for at least trying to play a harder role instead of sticking ur thumbs in ur ears and telling urself that support is very hard.
