Add the amount of things u want, even send ur own made champ if u feel like.
#What would you add, buff, nerf and remove from game.
remote linden
tender elk
Alright and boom, there goes 90% of the roster
remote linden
Alright and boom, there goes 90% of the roster
game gon be from now on asol vs azir with spellthief's edge
tender elk
I mean asol support could def work…. In bronze and Azir is a mid support, only useful at 6 in which he can actually force kills
forest wraith
remove windwall.
hallow atlas
Alright and boom, there goes 90% of the roster
thanosd
remote linden
I mean asol support could def work…. In bronze and Azir is a mid support, only u...
no, in jungle
remote linden
remove windwall.
pretty fair
hallow atlas
add liandrys like items for ad, like talons bleed but way less dmg.
remote linden
add liandrys like items for ad, like talons bleed but way less dmg.
good idea ngl
but they better make it a mythic, not wanna see a miss fortune with that + liandry and demonic embrace
hallow atlas
nerf cc stacking and remove camille true dmg scaling with divine sunder
forest wraith
just remove camille true dmg
hallow atlas
then she would suck ass
idk i dont play her but im asssuming that would hurt too much
tender elk
I’d remove brand ziggs xerath velkoz Diana yasuo yone shyvana shen draven veigar Akshan kayn nasus teemo leblanc sett darius garen
Can’t think of any more
hallow atlas
fuck it delete vi. that champ is cancer eclipse. deaths dance and maw is dumb
tender elk
Oh ye vi too
forest wraith
i enjoy getting vi r'ed a galaxy away
tender elk
I don’t let getting ulted in the middle of my team and dying as adc
hallow atlas
ever since they released that anime shes been OP
but i only play aram so what do i know
tender elk
I hate shyvana because she’s stupid broken imo
Power farms, clicks R, dominates team fights
Does like 500 dmg an E while also being super tanks
hallow atlas
we need to nerf riot balance team
forest wraith
remove riot balance team
remote linden
I’d remove brand ziggs xerath velkoz Diana yasuo yone shyvana shen draven veigar...
why brand ziggs xerath velkoz and teemo
tender elk
4 are poke and are boring to face
And Teemo is just annoying to face, and he has blind
remote linden
Power farms, clicks R, dominates team fights
true
remote linden
remove riot balance team
yeah they made bronces to decide how to balance game
remote linden
And Teemo is just annoying to face, and he has blind
just pick a mage
forest wraith
yeah they made bronces to decide how to balance game
theyre just a small indie company cut them sluck
tender elk
I mean it only matters when I’m an adc
forest wraith
slack
tender elk
Otherwise I burst him as mages and kill him as qiyana
tender elk
theyre just a small indie company cut them sluck
True
river kernel
Remove shaco, nerf teemo and yuumi into the ground, and remove windwall
forest wraith
agreed
remote linden
yall hate teemo
river kernel
Teemo is so annoying
dreamy raft
omg change the bounty system. reverse it so a player who is behind gets bonus gold when they get a kill
that way the already fed carry cant get a 700g shutdown and ruin the game
tender elk
I only hate bounty sometimes but my lord
Having a 1k gold shutdown as an adc is so saddening
dreamy raft
and it doesnt force players who are ahead to play hella lame and try not to die
bounty system is ass rn
tender elk
Also players who are behind but get 2 kills without dying get a bounty only furthering the winning team with more gold
remote linden
no no the worst is u going 0/9 u get two kills now u give shutdown
or literally get shutdown out of nowhere, not even cs
tender elk
no no the worst is u going 0/9 u get two kills now u give shutdown
It’s silly
timber geode
Add a champion that doesnt have a dash
Buff alistar
Remove windwall
And nerf teemo
tender elk
Also having a bounty as an adc is asking for the entire jungle to be warded after all times because every diver and assassin and fighter will do anything for ther bounty
remote linden
like why can my teammates give 300g going 3/24
tender elk
Add a champion that doesnt have a dash
Buff alistar
Remove windwall
And nerf tee...
Alistar doesn’t need a buff
river kernel
Also nerf brand he's annoying and my teammates are so idiotic that they group up
hallow atlas
losing games is good for player engagement, at least thats what riot thinks
buff teammates
remote linden
Also nerf brand he's annoying and my teammates are so idiotic that they group u...
oh i got worried i read nerf bard
tender elk
Like in one of t1 videos he says the right thing “an adc having a 1k bounty is not the same as an ekko or yasuo having a 1k bounty”
timber geode
Alistar doesn’t need a buff
idk, just came up in the head as "never seen in game after gold"
remote linden
id wish they added 1v1 rankeds
hallow atlas
fuck it, remove bronze. now all those iron accounts arent worth shit and people in low elo and can climb without getting those troll iron account makers
tender elk
Sounds interesting
hallow atlas
they sell for $500+ and people are making bots to lose games to farm them
tender elk
I mean if they removed bronze wouldn’t silver just be where the bots default too
remote linden
fuck it, remove bronze. now all those iron accounts arent worth shit and people ...
it would make no difference
hallow atlas
idk i figured youdhave a better chance of getting competent players,
would maybe balance that out, still up to rngesus ig
remote linden
idk i figured youdhave a better chance of getting competent players,
no, bronces 2-1 would go to silver and then silvers would have it easier for climbing cuz people would be worse, everyone would go up a rank
no difference
hallow atlas
i still think they should do something about how people are farming iron accounts, literally ruining peoples ranked games, even if theyre bronze....
remote linden
just ban em
faint monolith
Heavily reduce the strength of late game Veigar, maybe compensate by making his early a bit better
He’s a low elo champ but I don’t find 1400AP fair at 40 mins no matter the situation
remote linden
Heavily reduce the strength of late game Veigar, maybe compensate by making his ...
like putting a cap on him?
not being infinite
faint monolith
That
Or make the scaling a low slower
I don’t really play him but here every hit is 1 AP and kill is 5 AP
Make that like every 3 stacks is 1 AP and takedowns remain at 5 stacks or smth
That will stop good Veigar’s from getting 1000AP at 20 mins and stop rewarding bad ones so much late game for just existing
dusk finch
i would add every major rework so ppl can choose between for example old ww and new ww, old kata new kata, they would have the 2 versions (ryze is difference riot would need to pick only 2)
faint monolith
As in add 2 versions of every champ? Or you have to vote or pick which one will stay
dusk finch
2 versions of every major rework
faint monolith
I like that idea! Only idk how it will affect the meta if at all
dusk finch
like old attrox or new attrox and ppl would know which 1 the enemy picked
faint monolith
What if you could have both 1 old and 1 reworked version in a match
Old Yi vs new Yi or old Gwen Jungle and reworked Gwen top on the same team 😟
Scary
dusk finch
i didnt think that far, idk it would be weird
imagine old kata and new kata
has gwen changed anything tbh ?
faint monolith
Kinda
dusk finch
when i thought of major reworks i mean champs that are super different like aatrox katarina akali ww etc
dusk finch
it never made sense why riot just removes a champ, like old aatrox/akali are super diferent from the new ones instead of keep adding new champs they could focus on them instead
remote linden
i would add every major rework so ppl can choose between for example old ww and ...
then they wouldnt be reworks, because the own word implies that the champion is gonna be changed a lot, it would be another champ
but with the same name and lore
people would see em as new champs but riot being lazy with their lores
dusk finch
well it could be called whatever they wanted, i just think it would be a good idea to bring all the cool champs they left behind
call it transformations/evolutions or whatever
remote linden
call it transformations/evolutions or whatever
both of those words imply that the old champ is getting removed
it would just be new champs
glass cypress
Buff Triforce. The item is so bad and is only built conditionally on a few champs, especially now that Sunderer does Base damage as well, on all damage tests, it does more to both squishies and tanks at all stages of the game. It’s really only good for split pushing or really drawn out fights. Buff Chilling Smite too, the slow relative to its purpose is nothing compared to Challenging Smite’s purpose.
remote linden
Buff Triforce. The item is so bad and is only built conditionally on a few champ...
challenging smite getting a huge nerf at least
glass cypress
True, but it’s still pretty useful, although it’s been really nerfed.
Halved damage reduction.
remote linden
also this post was made inspired of:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3vu2MAIXHk
glass cypress
Chilling Smite is so bad.
Flat true damage is whatever, but a 20% slow for 2 seconds.
Like what even is that? Jhin and Draven can still run away.
35-40% would be an ideal number.
remote linden
Buff Triforce. The item is so bad and is only built conditionally on a few champ...
triforce is actually mentioned on this vid
remote linden
35-40% would be an ideal number.
yeah zilean slows 99% with a pac
its a year ago actually
something was going on on lec actually
5 people in a row said to nerf gwen and another 5 in a row to nerf jng
bitter owl
Some half decent AP bruiser items maybe?
remote linden
Some half decent AP bruiser items maybe?
like the morde mythic that literally only him builds?
good idea ngl
only issue very few champs could build it
bitter owl
We have like three, and only one is commonly built.
Riftmaker, which three champs run.
Night harvester, which fucking no one runs
And demonic, which everyone runs.
bitter owl
only issue very few champs could build it
I play one of the champs that would
remote linden
*I play one of the champs that would*
I can only think bout volibear top, morde and swain using it
bitter owl
Diana, Zac, Gwen would use em too.
bitter owl
There’s a lot of AP “get in a fist fight” characters but not enough AP “get in a fist fight” items.
remote linden
he only builds demonic sometimes cuz of it giving ap based on health
remote linden
There’s a lot of AP “get in a fist fight” characters but not enough AP “get in a...
yeah i also remembered gragas would use em probably
bitter owl
There’s plenty demand, not enough supply.
Everything’s either for burst mages or artillery mages.
remote linden
bitter owl
Imma be real
I couldn’t give less of a shit what pro opinions are.
I play swain in norms.
remote linden
i also play norms
but its the way of proving hating jng, yuumi, evelynn and wanting sylas jng to get a buff is normal
or that red smite is broken as hell
bitter owl
People dislike yuumi. She’s annoying to deal with and frankly unhealthy for the game.
This take is cold enough to give you frostbite.
remote linden
This take is cold enough to give you frostbite.
true
i asked some random otp yuumi his opinion o nthe champion and she said: idc what everyone says i can see stranger things while getting carried in ranked
fierce coral
for the love of god nerf sunfire?
remote linden
for the love of god nerf sunfire?
they already did it this patch
fierce coral
it's not a nerf
almost all champs that build it stacked hp
with exeption of master who wasn't a problem anyways
since the "nerfs rolled out"
I have seen sunfire gwen, sunfire shiv, sunfire diana, sunfire kayn, sunfire katarina, sunfire yone
almost every game I see a champ that builds it
even tho they are not designed to
wanton flint
an ad equivalent to sorc boots - add
buff jayce (champ is extremely weak atm doesn't require skill to beat)
ornn - remove or removing sunfire
fleet hollow
I would add ap splitpush item
fleet hollow
X_X
glass cypress
buff yasuo buff katarina buff akali
quick wyvern
Teemo 
give him a sword that applies brevity’s wounds and make his poison apply pta stacks
storm trail
buff anti heal, reduce lengh of cc and remove blind
random shard
i would remove the q bug vlad has
first and foremost
remove anivia w and passive
either remove MAW or revert void back to what it originally was
buff anti heal
add a ap qss option
random shard
Night harvester, which fucking *no one* runs
NH ain't a ap bruiser item
bitter owl
It’s got AP, it’s got HP, it’s got CDR. I disagree.
random shard
it's never been designed to be one
just because it has HP on the item doesn't mean it's a bruiser item lol
if riftmaker didn't exist, you would literally never see morde build it
or swain
or any ap bruiser
bitter owl
Alright, so that means we have… two, AP bruiser items.
random shard
if you're discounting rylais which honestly idk wtf it is, then yes
bitter owl
Rylais is more general use than anything, pretty much anyone can build rylais.
My point still stands, some more AP bruiser items would rock.
random shard
most ap bruisers are forced into building actual tank items
the item rework completely ruined any diversity for ap champs in general
majority of ap mages are building the same shit, and majority of the ap bruisers build the same shit
bitter owl
Give us back RoA riot you cowards
random shard
i just want spellbinder back
red cosmos
Add: more tank items
Buff bruiser items and bruiser champions.
Nerf: lord doms
Remove: yummi “unhealthy champion for the game”
Remove ratios on champions that don’t and shouldn’t build items for those ratios
random shard
wtf no 😭
faint monolith
Add: more tank items
Buff bruiser items and bruiser champions.
Nerf: lord do...
do the opposite of that jesus
random shard
do the opposite of that jesus
agreed
tanks and tank items do not need more items to be broken
bruisers do not need a buff
especially when shit like dd, divine and goredrinker exist
faint monolith
tanks are also the most unfun role to versus imo
i dont mind them existing but god it makes the lane stale and teamfights boring
red cosmos
tanks are also the most unfun role to versus imo
Most unfun role to play against.
Yet tanks are the ones with the most counter play in the game.
wanton flint
lol
faint monolith
or even fun and strength in general
wanton flint
what is a mage going to do to a tank
other than wait 30 seconds with liandries burn
faint monolith
die to sunfire while trying it
red cosmos
die to sunfire while trying it
Yet Diana aren’t building the items that would actually help the build they fantasize about doing
faint monolith
where did that come from
i make a joke and you bring up an unrelated argument where you lost
wanton flint
dudes arguing with all of diana mains building sunfire
when he knows notihng ab the champ
faint monolith
can you let it go for your own sake
red cosmos
when he knows notihng ab the champ
Nothing about the champ when I main the champion that abuses sunfire to its fullest.
red cosmos
yeah so not diana
Sion the guy who does triple the sunfire dmg a Diana would he doing
red cosmos
Want to tell you the build you should be doing
faint monolith
"i play softball so im better than football players since both sports use balls"
right
red cosmos
If you want to live by tank Diana?
Or just going to cry gold 4 and not listen to the guy who mains tanks
faint monolith
you should listen to others first 💀
red cosmos
Want to hear the build?
faint monolith
you get so fucking upset people dont read your paragraphs but you dont read a single sentence
no
i dont
red cosmos
Or no
faint monolith
i dont fucking care
red cosmos
It increases your dmg
faint monolith
i know you dont play diana so why even give it
red cosmos
And makes your more tanky
faint monolith
there u go
you dont read
this 1000% confirmed it
or youre insanely arrogant
which is worse
red cosmos
Nashors/Sunfire/Abysal mask/demonic/Zhonhyas
red cosmos
or youre insanely arrogant
The anti me clan is even more arrogant
wanton flint
if your ego wasn't taller than mt everest you'd see something
red cosmos
if your ego wasn't taller than mt everest you'd see something
The ego of clan anti Blight Knight90 is ffing worse
random shard
if your ego wasn't taller than mt everest you'd see something
true
red cosmos
Nashors/Sunfire/Abysal mask/demonic/Zhonhyas
I’m literally telling you a proper tank Diana build and your not listening to me lmfao
wanton flint
ffing man
im ffing mad
@random shard
been making fun of this dudes base model v6 for 30 min
dudes an admin on the game lmao
he got that high lighter looking srt
red cosmos
Wtf does this haft to do with anything
random shard
dudes an admin on the game lmao
💀
i used to play driving games
but now i don't even touch roblox
faint monolith
Nashors/Sunfire/Abysal mask/demonic/Zhonhyas
NO FUCKING WAY YOU USE SUNFIRE ON DIANA????????????????????
I THOUGHT THAT WAS TROLLING AND NOT META
faint monolith
The ego of clan anti Blight Knight90 is ffing worse
you think people made clan around you?
im disgusted
no you dont have to explain its against you not for you 💀
random shard
self entitlement and ego xd
faint monolith
^
you think people are wrong and argue with them. multiple people say youre wrong and you think they start witch hunting you
wake up
Now I really want you to think why people try to speak up against your comments and thoughts @red cosmos .
versed onyx
don't argue with blightknight
he's a confirmed uh
cant say they always delete my message
not a good guy though
red cosmos
NO FUCKING WAY YOU USE SUNFIRE ON DIANA????????????????????
I don’t use it. I’m literally tell you the items you should be building
red cosmos
That the people who play tanks will know how to enhance their items capability too it’s max
I’m literally giving you a helping hand and calling me troll for it.
faint monolith
No
red cosmos
Troll for the build your defending
random shard
self entitlement and ego xd
.
faint monolith
What you are doing is “do this. I don’t use it myself so I don’t know how good it is but trust me bro”
red cosmos
What you are doing is “do this. I don’t use it myself so I don’t know how good i...
Yet I do this same thing. On other champs that do the similar builds
red cosmos
Ever heard of sunfire botrk volibear trundle?
faint monolith
Now I really want you to think __why__ people try to speak up against your comme...
Can u still answer this
mystic robin
I would Remove illaoi and yone completely 
red cosmos
Should I? And are they comparable to Diana just bc of sunfire?
Because of champion compatibility with items. Yes
faint monolith
Imma give that a try then
red cosmos
@random shard your close with 1 but completely off with the other
random shard
dude i saw someone run it and she literally took 0 dmg but did so much 😭
red cosmos
Sunfire Botrk bruiser belveth
faint monolith
Ok
red cosmos
She stacks it incredibly fast. And applying rapid scorching auto attacks. While being tanky at the same time.
faint monolith
Can u still answer this
^^^^
Not even trying to mock you I’m genuinely interested in this
red cosmos
Now I really want you to think __why__ people try to speak up against your comme...
Cause they are blindly following builds that they think are good. On champions that don’t pair well with them at all.
Because they saw 1 person in high elo do it and because everyone cries tank items are broken, flocked too this wanting to prove their point.
Which instead of proving tank are broken they instead convinced riot to nerf the item on non tanks. While tripling the dmg from tanks.
That’s why I’m saying thank you Diana’s for buffing our already good dmg.
red cosmos
It’s a common build I think everyone who plays Bel has seen it
Trust me everyone and their mother are just doing kraken full dmg bel
faint monolith
Cause they are blindly following builds that they think are good. On champions t...
Wrong you’re bringing up just Diana
faint monolith
Trust me everyone and their mother are just doing kraken full dmg bel
I know. I do. But people know frostifre exists they just want to use the more fun option
random shard
Wrong you’re bringing up just Diana
not to mention the build was like 55% wr
across every elo
sunfire was just genuinely broken
and diana has been broken, well really good for a while now
2 mixed together and created that monster
faint monolith
^
No need to believe it if the stats say so
But I’ll spoil the answer
You’re wrong
Objectively or in other people’s eyes. No one wants to start a cult against someone for fun
Spreading misinformation is wrong and people don’t want new players or anyone at all to follow bad advice
I’ll not all everything you’ve said cause I haven’t seen it all, but expect an answer back if you’re straight up wrong or people thin you’re wrong
Now after that you don’t take in any words or thoughts except for your own and get stuck up with them
So please
random shard
just stop with the baseless takes, you're very misinformed due to the fact you think you know everything about a champ after 2 games
you have nothing backing anything you claim or try to say is fact
and never will if you keep doing what ur doing xd
red cosmos
Wrong you’re bringing up just Diana
I’m bringing up just Diana causes she’s the main one.
I haven’t seen a single sunfire tank fizz or ekko.
And Diana has little to no pairing with the item.
Cause the type of champion she is and how riot designed her kit
Why do you think riot didnt nerf Diana herself instead of sunfire
random shard
because sunfire was giga broken and being abused on multiple champs lol
if it was just diana, they would've nerfed her and kept item as is
shut echo
I think they wanted to nerf her, but didn't want to make her completely useless. So they decided to nerf the item she was abusing instead.
random shard
but it was multiple champs
wanton flint
diana has very high base numbers and her kit works well if she's a tank
fizz and ekko are to one shot solely
diana has sustained dmg with her passive 3 hit and as and her r has extremely dumb base scalings which work with tank
the sunfire nerf was also not erven a nerf
they jsut made it scale better
wanton flint
is twt still even worse lmao
shits been nerfed like 3 times in a row
boutta switch to item cdr gp and no more twt
approach velo could work with barrels
red cosmos
approach velo could work with barrels
You know barrels proc his passive ms right?
red cosmos
Wrong you’re bringing up just Diana
If riot were going to nerf Diana and not change sunfire at all they would’ve removed the HP ratio on her W shield and give it more AP ratio
wanton flint
You know barrels proc his passive ms right?
why would i not know my otp
velo would let me catch pre 13 with barrels easier
red cosmos
why would i not know my otp
Then why would you take approach velocity when they are slowed and you got the Ma boost
Diana was never nerfed
With the recent patches
I rarely play Diana
Cause theirs better options
wanton flint
Then why would you take approach velocity when they are slowed and you got the M...
to catch?
red cosmos
to catch?
What else would you run?
Approach velocity/futures market?
Cause I’m already assuming your taking Grasp
red cosmos
fs
I understand FS into lane opponents that are squishy so you get more dmg off. I just fine grasp too reliable to pass up. Even after the Q change
wanton flint
no
fs is lanes wherte i don't need duelling
tanks are common for this apart from ornn
also matchups ur comfy in u can take fs like into darius
or aatrox
u also don't go it until u actually know how to play gp
as grasp just lets u lane freely
fiery pond
I sorta want to allow most champs to mix and match their item builds, sorta like in Dota 2.
Each item has a purpose - a unique function! 😄
I think, however, that if League wants to stay loyal to its current style of itemizing champs, I think they should make sure everyone has access to the same tools.
Like, Banshee's Veil is a great anti-magic item for mages themselves, let alone tanks that use AP (imo), and Assassins even have Edge of Night to get their own Spell Shield.
But why don't Marksmen have any to use?
Like, theoretically they can use Edge of Night, but ideally everyone wants to go full Crit these days
Either that or full Lethality
wanton flint
riot doesn't like classes having the same stuff
and the new crit is horrible
adcs are forced to build all crit items if they wanna be useufl
having 80% crit and 100% crit is a huge difference in dps in a fight and on something with low hits getting 2-3 non crits just loses the fight or even the game
bitter owl
TL;DR Give us a few more hearty mage items, so mages aren’t entirely shat on by lethality.
faint monolith
If riot were going to nerf Diana and not change sunfire at all they would’ve rem...
Wrong again you don’t understand what I’m talking about
Once again you ignore everything i say and bring up unrelated or semi-related subjects. If you took ONE second to read what I’m talking about you wouldn’t bring up Diana in every thread
fleet hollow
TL;DR Give us a few more hearty mage items, so mages aren’t entirely shat on by ...
Don't mages typically have cc already
tired gorge
i just want miss fortune deleted from history
vapid path
yuumi should take part of the damage in % of whoever she’s attached to cuz it’s annoying to see like a 15/0 jax have a yuumi be gorilla glued to him
or like put a timer on how long she can stand on one person
karmic cove
TL;DR Give us a few more hearty mage items, so mages aren’t entirely shat on by ...
You cannot be serious
You CANT be serious
You have 300 random hp on a bunch of item what more can you want
Delusional mage player
red cosmos
Once again you ignore everything i say and bring up unrelated or semi-related su...
And if you took a moment to listen why sunfire Diana is not good and people are just ffing lazy for when it comes to learning against tank items.
Then you would probably stop losing too it
red cosmos
Delusional mage player
Riot literally added Hp to most mage items. If he’s crying about assasins killing them with assassin time then he needs to deal with it
bitter owl
Delusional mage player
Well shit, good morning to you too. As mentioned before, it takes more than HP to make an item a bruiser item. HP without resistances to cover them fall apart to max% damage and high burst. AD bruisers have plenty pseudo-items to choose from defensively, mages in general do not. Secondly the options for brawly mythics are riftmaker, and that’s it, and only three mages build the damn thing. We lost a lot of items and build variety in the item overhaul, we’d like some of them back.
TL;DR, fuck you too buddy, I’m just saying it’d be nice.
My original conversation was about how AP bruisers are fucked on choices, I meant I’d like something more akin to that, don’t blow a gasket on me over this.
faint monolith
And if you took a moment to listen why sunfire Diana is not good and people are ...
- I never said I was losing to it
- If people don’t learn to play against tank items why not abuse it? Why refuse to use something you can abuse until it’s gone?
- You’re a hypocritical, arrogant and stuck up person I want to say so much more but I won’t
You’re fucking awful when it comes to posts you never try to understand other people all you do is expect them to read your wrong paragraphs and you don’t read anything in return
It’s surprising how many people refuse to talk to you because of this, that says something about you not about the people here
I’m only argueing with you because I don’t want other people to read your misspreading messages and learn or understand things the wrong way
You’re straight up sabotaging new players with your delusional thoughts and don’t even try to listen to other people who; know better, have a different idea than you or are trying to help your points by supporting it
All you do is “no you’re wrong this is why I’m right;”
red cosmos
You’re fucking awful when it comes to posts you never try to understand other pe...
Yeah cause are lazy at reading
red cosmos
All you do is “no you’re wrong this is why I’m right;”
Wow it’s like the anti me clan your a part of. Does this every single post
Just so you can shut me up
red cosmos
You’re delusional
Says the guy who just calls me troll. In multiple posts
faint monolith
Have you never in your life been spoken against or something?
There are threads where people are just wrong and they get spoken against
bitter owl
???
red cosmos
Do you actually think people care enough about you??? No
Your calling me troll in everything I say. So I guess you do care
faint monolith
Says the guy who just calls me troll. In multiple posts
Because you say all of that bulls hit and never listen while asking people to listen
faint monolith
Your calling me troll in everything I say. So I guess you do care
No why are you reading and answering in threads?
red cosmos
Because you say all of that bulls hit and never listen while asking people to li...
“All of it is bullshit” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
bitter owl
I’m too hungover for this shit, you two hug this out, im getting a coffee.
faint monolith
“All of it is bullshit” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
What’s so funny ?
faint monolith
I’m too hungover for this shit, you two hug this out, im getting a coffee.
Ew gross
red cosmos
I’m too hungover for this shit, you two hug this out, im getting a coffee.
I don’t blame you, the anti BlightKnight90 clan has a campaign against me. And this guy is a part of it.
bitter owl
I don’t blame you, the anti BlightKnight90 clan has a campaign against me. And t...
I pray to god this is meant to come off as a joke.
bitter owl
@faint monolith ooooooooh. He is delusional.
red cosmos
<@370584159220924427> ooooooooh. He *is* delusional.
And now it’s got a new member
karmic cove
Well shit, good morning to you too. As mentioned before, it takes more than HP t...
...?
Because AP in general has already way too many defensive tool
Are you seriously not considering the fact that with everfrost and zhonya you have the same HP and armor as you would with a tank item
bitter owl
And now it’s got a new member
Bro, no one is out to get you, but it’s obvious you’ve pissed some people off.
faint monolith
<@370584159220924427> ooooooooh. He *is* delusional.
You got it thanks
karmic cove
I don't get how mage players are still complaining about assassins despite assassins not being able to kill them on even grounds anymore, it's sad honestly.
faint monolith
I made a list of your problems and once again you shrug it off as “not your problem”
karmic cove
Show how ass the average league player is if they unironically complain about the worst class in the game by far.
faint monolith
I don't get how mage players are still complaining about assassins despite assas...
It’s because when they lose lane they will die in one shot and not the other way around
karmic cove
It’s because when they lose lane they will die in one shot and not the other way...
You literally can't lose lanes to assassins, most of them have GARBAGE laning phases
red cosmos
Bro, no one is out to *get you*, but it’s obvious you’ve pissed some people off.
Cause people are too lazy too to play against shit. But when people call out the picks are bad. People cry is broken when it’s not.
Responces from people like @faint monolith
Your troll your troll your troll
faint monolith
You literally can't lose lanes to assassins, most of them have GARBAGE laning ph...
Well they will complain when they do because that’s how league players are
karmic cove
Like
Talon for example, the most well-known ad assassin
Dude has NO wave clear pre level 9
dogshit trades and is cucked by zhonyas
glass cypress
This arguing has been going on for a day between you two, can you drop it?
karmic cove
How do u die to this champ as a zhonya mage
glass cypress
Block each other and move on
bitter owl
Are you seriously not considering the fact that with everfrost and zhonya you ha...
Everfrost isn’t a bruiser item, it’s CC extension, for control mages. I’d like to repeat, HP ≠ tanky item. HP without resistances falls apart to excessive burst or max% HP damage. Yes Zhonya’s is a sturdier item for mages but it and banshees are our… only, items for that. And half the community hates the first one with a burning passion.
glass cypress
No
bitter owl
Cause people are too lazy too to play against shit. But when people call out the...
See this? This is why people are picking on you. This kinda attitude.
glass cypress
I'm telling you to walk away entirely
karmic cove
Everfrost isn’t a bruiser item, it’s CC extension, for control mages. I’d like t...
Because having stasis on demand is one of the most broken mechanicsi n the game by far, hello?
Zhonyas also give an insane amount of ARMOR despite having 90 AP and a god-tier passive, it's not surpising to see that it is one of the most hated item in the game because it literally gives a mage every tool they need to outplay and outlive an AD assassin.
glass cypress
Because obviously you can't type here without causing an issue
So either block them and move on
Or continue and lose access to these channels
faint monolith
Also, tell me which AD assassin have % damage
None
karmic cove
And if you say shit like "Red kayn 
"
faint monolith
LMAO
karmic cove
I swear to god
faint monolith
Does Vayne count?
karmic cove
Qiyana is the only one with % damage, even then it's % MISSING hp
Dude's reaching at straws
Unironically
faint monolith
I was half kidding
bitter owl
Because having stasis on demand is one of the most broken mechanicsi n the game ...
Okay well A it’s our only answer to assassins right now, and has been for years, and B, you entirely missed my point of “people don’t like this item, maybe we should have some different ones so we see it less” C, none, they have combos capable of up to 2K damage, which I have fuck all armor/MR to deal with, and D, you are a smouldering asshole
Fuck man, the point of the thread is “what would you personally like more of” if I knew the item gatekeeper was going to crawl up my ass wearing barbed wire I wouldn’t have bothered.
glass cypress
karmic cove
I am a smouldering asshole because you literally spew out the most garbage take in this entire thread, why are you complaining that AD assassins do up to 2k damage if they land everything when mages in general have up to 3.5K-4K hp in the later stages of the game
glass cypress
don't like 5 of those
have % dmg on them
just on that page alone
not scrolling down
glass cypress
sorry bro, the game disagrees
faint monolith
Most of them are jglers
karmic cove
also
bitter owl
Yknow what I know better than to argue wirh these people. I’m blocking and getting on with my day
faint monolith
I wouldn’t call kindred an assassin
bitter owl
Fuckers out here to pick fights for thr sake of picking fights.
glass cypress
Go chill out for a second
bitter owl
Go chill out for a second
I dun wanna chill,
I wanna be grumpy
glass cypress
I was saying that nicely, continue to just post angry shit and I'm muting motherfuckers
idgaf
bitter owl
I’m just making a joke darling, I’m over it.
faint monolith
I’d say most assassin have it as their secondary part of their kit
Purely because of invisibility or a far dash
karmic cove
Which one
bitter owl
Again I didn’t wanna wake up having a fight today.
karmic cove
The only "assassin"
And this is a stretch
VERY big stretch here
With % built into their basic ability
bitter owl
I jus want RoA back if I’m being entirely transparent.
faint monolith
Ok ok
karmic cove
is Yone
glass cypress
karmic cove
ad assassin
we're talking about ad assassin
cuz this guy was complaining about lethality
glass cypress
oh ok
faint monolith
AD Eve meta when
bitter owl
And no I don’t mean I want them to scrap what made seraphs unique (which was one of our last defensive items goddamnit riot why) and give it a diet version of catalyst passive, I want RoA back.
glass cypress
I'm queuing up rn
karmic cove
Oh hell na
glass cypress
stay outta q fuckos
faint monolith
I'm queuing up rn
To play whom
bitter owl
stay outta q fuckos
I’m in the bin, and also NA, you’re probably fine
faint monolith
It’s not loading for me
glass cypress
shaco dagger
Active: Shaco throws a dagger at the target enemy that deal magic damage, Critical strike magic icon.png increased by 50% if they are below 30% of their maximum health, and Slow icon.png slows them for 3 seconds.
faint monolith
Oh gross
karmic cove
missing health or whatever
faint monolith
I guess that’s true
karmic cove
but then again that sorta deviates from the % damage point he was trying to make
faint monolith
Ok but what you’re asking for is something rare tho
karmic cove
the only assassin with % damage built into their kit
is red kayn with prowlers claw bro
glass cypress
if you say red kayn is an assassin
i'd argue it's the build that makes them an assassin
karmic cove
Red kayn isn't an assassin cuz his burst isn't that good
glass cypress
not the champ it self
glass cypress
all i'm saying is
faint monolith
Hybrid maybe?
glass cypress
get rid of prowlers
bitter owl
Funni dash knife.
glass cypress
ain't no way some of these champs need dashes
random shard
mages have items with HP
faint monolith
That’s fair
random shard
the issue is
bitter owl
They took the dash off siege breaker because it was problematic but prowlers gets a pass?
glass cypress
get rid of prowlers and gale force, keep protobelt bc that shit is useless
random shard
diversity with the builds
faint monolith
They took the dash off siege breaker because it was problematic but prowlers get...
👍
bitter owl
diversity with the builds
Thank you.
faint monolith
get rid of prowlers and gale force, keep protobelt bc that shit is useless
Protobelt? What’s that
random shard
they got rid of the diversity with mage builds when the item rework happened
every mage and their mother builds the exact same shit now
karmic cove
get rid of prowlers and gale force, keep protobelt bc that shit is useless
Prowler is based wdym
Remmeber when it used to be able to dash onto miniions
That shit was class
glass cypress
"ok we gave a MAGE item a burst dash, and no one built it so the mobility must not be that good right???? LET'S GIVE ONE TO BRUISERS/ASSASSINS AND ADC'S NOW"
faint monolith
Is it rocketbelt or am I forgetting an item?
bitter owl
Rocket belt yeah.
faint monolith
Isnt it made for AP assassins?
random shard
yes
bitter owl
The issue here is giving melee champs access to a dash. Most Mages don’t want a dash, they don’t need to be closer to you in fact many prefer to keep you at an arms length, the mages who don’t (Swain Vlad and Galio) already have tools to close the gap so they don’t need another one. Giving champs who do wanna close the gap, like assassins and bruisers, is scary
random shard
no, the entire reason vlad built proto was for the gap closer
the mr pen helped but it was the dash
he doesn't even build it anymore
neither does galio, or fiddlesticks
random shard
fiddle builds NH or Liandries now
faint monolith
Or they flashed
glass cypress
the added mobility not needed when ludens does more dmg, night harvester too
glass cypress
especially on the champs that would want to use it
random shard
the added mobility not needed when ludens does more dmg, night harvester too
vlad switched to NH when they made fiendish apart of the build
glass cypress
they don't need another dash
random shard
galio i don't think has built proto in ages lol
it's always been everfrost
rn it's NH
bitter owl
I just want more AP bruiser items I’m sick of building laundry.
faint monolith
Laundry xd
bitter owl
there's nothing unique for mages
What we had they killed in item overhaul.
faint monolith
Make makes unable to purchase zhonya’s
bitter owl
Now everything’s either an item for burstmages or artillery mages
bitter owl
Also give me my fucking RoA back Riot. I don’t even care if you make it a mythic and lock half the stacks behind the mythic passive, give me my ramp back.
random shard
they need to nerf MAW
keen tendon
i was just defend the minion wave , she came out of nowhere , pressed R and killed me in 2 seconds
still won cuz backdoored
bitter owl
they need to nerf MAW
So I’ve heard.
random shard
and give us mages an actual shieldbreaking item
faint monolith
i was just defend the minion wave , she came out of nowhere , pressed R and kill...
Who were you playing?
random shard
shadowflame is nothing but stat stick
faint monolith
and give us mages an actual shieldbreaking item
Serpent’s is ad right?
I never build it I’m not sure
random shard
which tbf mages don't have a stat stick item but it's crazy ad champs have serpents, which breaks shields, while we have nothing
random shard
Serpent’s is ad right?
yes
faint monolith
Some mages do %missing hp damage that’s still strong bc the missing % doesn’t account shields
bitter owl
What they should do is give abyssal AP over pen and make it actually cool.
glass cypress
Now everything’s either an item for burstmages or artillery mages
realistically
faint monolith
Shields won’t save you if you’re 1%hp but have a 40% hp shield
bitter owl
she can parry my stuns
Bait her party then.
keen tendon
i was at a TURRET
glass cypress
what other mages exist
keen tendon
Bait her party then.
well i told you she killed me in 2 seconds ye ?
bitter owl
what other mages exist
Mine 
random shard
idek wtf abyssal does anymore
glass cypress
the mages that do exist have their items tho
random shard
every mage practically builds the same shit
faint monolith
well i told you she killed me in 2 seconds ye ?
I’m guessing Fiora was ahead
bitter owl
I know pseudobruiser AP brawlers like swain and Diana are a small number compared to the rest, but it doesn’t mean I don’t want more diversity for those champs.
faint monolith
That’s only happened when ahead but yeah the fact she can even do it
keen tendon
I’m guessing Fiora was ahead
late , all full item
random shard
like when's the last time you saw someone build crown
faint monolith
Never
random shard
literally last time i saw that item built was when it first released
faint monolith
I saw one Lux with it
random shard
i haven't seen that shit since
faint monolith
I actually build it when I started playing and was playing Viktor
random shard
viktor benefits a lot more from Ludens
faint monolith
I didn’t know what items did so I thought oh a shield nice
random shard
no reason to build it esp when zhonyas exists
faint monolith
Nope
keen tendon
hm sure
faint monolith
I got my ass beaten by a sion once
faint monolith
But that was purely sunfire while he ran
keen tendon
the passive only deal true damage if the opponent have more health than you
faint monolith
Sunfire did 80% of my health while he was running away
keen tendon
that should work
keen tendon
Sunfire did 80% of my health while he was running away
camille sunderer is also an example of it
bitter owl
Fiora is good but she isn’t impossible to deal with. Just poke her ass out in teamfights so it’s hard for her to participate.
Least it’s not Irelia who can pick a fight from 20 feet away and suck your dick so hard her healthbar freezes.
keen tendon
hm
faint monolith
Fiora is good but she isn’t impossible to deal with. Just poke her ass out in te...
Damn.
bitter owl
I don’t like Irelia. I won’t pretend I like Irelia.
faint monolith
I like her
I can’t for the life of me do good on her but I find her fun
Also 80% of irelias I see run it down by going 0/8 in lane
bitter owl
Irelia with one piece of healing out drain tanks my drain tank who’s almost entire kit is based around healing and lifesteal.
faint monolith
But the others go 14/1 at 10 minutes
I will have respect for Irelia players cause I think she’s really difficult to successfully pull off
Those clips where she dashed through multiple minions before killing the enemy look cool
keen tendon
i hate irelia
she have one BOTRK and she kill an ornn is seconds
her powerspike is insane
bitter owl
I’d say sure, she looks complex, but there aren’t jokes about her missing all her abilities and still winning fights because of her passive and Q healing for no reason.
keen tendon
I’d say sure, she looks complex, but there aren’t jokes about her missing all he...
i was trying to say so
but those ire main keep explaining it
faint monolith
I’d say sure, she looks complex, but there aren’t jokes about her missing all he...
True true but those only apply to irelia mains
If you miss your shit when you’re not amazing at her you die unless the enemies are really dumb
0 respect for the one tricks who get cocky or say ez after winning with her
She’s difficult for a reason and one of the best champs if you’re good at her
bitter owl
That’s another thing, people who know Irelia for shit are always some toxic mf’s.
bitter owl
Your champ being complex is no excuse for you to harass the other 9 people you’re playing with.
faint monolith
^
I’ll be an ass against a Vayne top who tried to counter pick me but died 5x in lane after having the jungler camp me
But not if I one trick one if the best champions
That’s just lame
glass cypress
hello
wheat wadi
the game itself
glass cypress
why does every new champion have 3 dashes in their kit?
obtuse heart
add naked bathtub olaf skin, buff sions tower damage to 250% (scales with hp), nerf aurelion sol, and remove fiora
storm night
Make Alistar's w a skill shot instead of point and click
faint monolith
^
north moat
buff rakan
left dagger
north moat
id remove Master Q
river kernel
Nerf the champ design team
remote linden
Add: more tank items
Buff bruiser items and bruiser champions.
Nerf: lord do...
bro tanks are the most unhealthy thing rn, bruishers have been dominant for a while, they have to buff doms and yeah pls delete yuumi
remote linden
The ego of clan anti Blight Knight90 is ffing worse
u rlly think ur important enough for people to build a clan around u 💀 ? Ur just a bozo
remote linden
Cause they are blindly following builds that they think are good. On champions t...
1st i play tanks/know tank mains know a lot of people, everyone says tank items are broken, they are, stop the cries.
2nd U cannot decide which build is better if u dont play that champ at all, ur just being delusional and arrogant.
remote linden
Trust me everyone and their mother are just doing kraken full dmg bel
cuz playing bel bruisher is boring af
remote linden
Why do you think riot didnt nerf Diana herself instead of sunfire
cuz it was a global item at this point i was just waiting to see sunfire jhin
remote linden
TL;DR Give us a few more hearty mage items, so mages aren’t entirely shat on by ...
pls no im tired of swains with 4k hp
remote linden
yuumi should take part of the damage in % of whoever she’s attached to cuz it’s ...
fax, as a jax main i got a yuumi and some kills, so went from 5/0 to 33/0, with an afk talon since start of the match, we would have lost with idk a xerath
remote linden
Well shit, good morning to you too. As mentioned before, it takes more than HP t...
mages have zhonyas, the best defensive item
remote linden
“All of it is bullshit” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
it is tho
remote linden
I don’t blame you, the anti BlightKnight90 clan has a campaign against me. And t...
yes we group every 3 days for deciding what we do until next group up, you are such an important figure for my life for me to build a clan with strangers
remote linden
Cause people are too lazy too to play against shit. But when people call out the...
U main sion and tell others that yeah those chall dont know shit bout diana i know better
remote linden
sorry bro, the game disagrees
game says kayle is a support
remote linden
In what world
get on client and check which champs are designed as supps
fleet hollow
Option to convert all mythic to blue essence
fleet hollow
Better tutorial
scarlet forge
Like what even is that? Jhin and Draven can still run away.
play volibear
oblique forge
1st i play tanks/know tank mains know a lot of people, everyone says tank items ...
as someone whos played tanks, tank items arent broken at all
infact tank item stats are the worst of all items
what u prob mean is the mythic item dmg being too high and therefore op, which is debatable
not to mention how some items (ahem divine) by themselves counter tanks so hard that even a tank that is far ahead loses to it
keen tendon
Like what even is that? Jhin and Draven can still run away.
Dude it slows their opponent for 20% , i agree
but it also gives you 20% movespeed bro
remote linden
infact tank item stats are the worst of all items
(backs up to full health without doing nothing) also, the "debatable" thing is cap, its just broken as hell, everything builds it because its op, randuin is one of the most op items in the game just as frozen heart, titanic hydra and demonic embrace are as well very strong, spirit visage is absurd in some compos, gargoyle even being very expensive is a really strong item and thornail is just absurdly op
remote linden
not to mention how some items (ahem divine) by themselves counter tanks so hard ...
yes, divine, bork, black cleaver, seryldas, kraken, dominik counters em
do u want em to just not die never ever versus nobody?
oh and mages got literally 3 items
oblique forge
(backs up to full health without doing nothing) also, the "debatable" thing is c...
how are they broken as hell? just a simple look to their gold efficiency would show tank items being by far the lowest in the game
oblique forge
(backs up to full health without doing nothing) also, the "debatable" thing is c...
and not everyone builds tank items lol, and theres always people who opt to build items outside their normal item class
oblique forge
yes, divine, bork, black cleaver, seryldas, kraken, dominik counters em
man take a look at how tanks got absolutely gutted after item overhaul
they lost alot of stats while having to deal with lots of new items that specifically counter them
12.10 made it even less useful to build tank as everyone got tankier, therefore tank items finally getting a deserved buff
and even still most tanks never get to be that tanky anyway and even get 1v1d by assassins
remote linden
and not everyone builds tank items lol, and theres always people who opt to buil...
every champ rn builds sunfire/frostgauntlet and they did as well with chemtank
oblique forge
cap
only some like diana do
that arent supposed to
and sunfire has already been adjusted for that
random shard
every champ rn builds sunfire/frostgauntlet and they did as well with chemtank
not anymore
used to be champs like yone, diana, yi, irelia, etc
modern venture
i'll say it again!
REMOVE ALL ENCHANTERS FROM THEEE GAMEEEE
Game will be 100 times more healthy
obtuse kernel
Remove runes. not add but actually adjust stats to champions making them what they are supposed to be and not 4 different things at once. Buff Attack damage items and Marksmen items. Finally nerf gold cost to all buffed items for ADC/Marksmen champions Making it to where they are actual carries and not simply good all game.
remote linden
not anymore
i still see em
ocean summit
i would straight up remove runes. it would make the game so much easier to balance
waxen pasture
i would straight up remove runes. it would make the game so much easier to balan...
Easier sure, but will sure make the game boring
ocean summit
Easier sure, but will sure make the game boring
why would it be boring? they just make champs for roles and expect runes to pick up the slack. Instead of making champs that are fun to play and are strong at some things and weak at others. A high dmg long range mage like viktor should not have the option to also get a burst of movespeed with phase rush just becuase
then that just sets up those same champs to get nerfed and made boring because they can use runes too well and become op.
its actually a balancing nightmarer
faint monolith
runes make the game a lot different because of all the options
if they remove that and add another feature itll be very similar or make the game stale if they dont
waxen pasture
why would it be boring? they just make champs for roles and expect runes to pick...
That's what makes it fun
You can express your champion in so many different ways
Removing runes means creating champion limitations
For what role they can go and how they can play any matchup
Things like the resolve and inspiration tree and Mr and armour runes makes counter picks much playable
While the domination precision and sorcery tree lines can make winning much more rewarding
Runes are how you can express yourself
Just as much as champions
ocean summit
thats what items are for though?
items in league are the most boring in the genre and its becuase of rune, theres no reason for them at all. theyre not balanced equally and theyre not balanced as per champions
where as if u had items that did more than "give this dmg and give this health" but had actives, you wouldnt need boring af runes that "increase attack dmg if u fully stack it"
not to mention it makes the game so snowbally in the worst way possible, why does a rengar or a kha have an extra 10 ad for free becuase an invade went well or badly, thats not good deisgn and its certainly not a fun way to express your game play
tender elk
I mean idk about you but I like runes
tender elk
I like going predator on anyone and just zooming
ocean summit
yeah but why cant that just be an item?
surely thats more fun no?
that you can decide what u want to go as the game progresses
waxen pasture
surely thats more fun no?
Because if you need to add every rune as an item
Then balancing items is going to be hard
Items as they are right now
Are not that interesting
So it will not work
twin creek
ocean summit
Because if you need to add every rune as an item
u dnt need to add every rune though. u can add some runes, and they dont to be the same actives as the current runes at all
not to mention runes for counerplay only work if you know what youre going against. otherwise your at a disadvantage for no reason other than that someone wanted to play karma mid and zed support that game and you now have 0 MR runes
either way i dont care enough to be honest, theres a million problems with league and i cant be bothered to argue about just 1 of them right now
goodnight
waxen pasture
u dnt need to add every rune though. u can add some runes, and they dont to be t...
It's creating massive balance issues because each and every item will be overloaded with unique stats and passives
And if you won't add every item in the game, then it is still a limitation of creative freedom
That is not comparable to runes
On top of that, you only have 6 item slots
So each and every time you complete an item
It is a incredible snowball
Thank you all the overloaded stats and actives from the theoretical new items
So games will now become even more snowbally, of one laner is able to complete an item before the enemy laner
If you force the Zed to go support, I think that's just a massive win
I also appreciate the little mind games you can play with runes and roleswaps
I wouldnt consider it a waste of a rune, but the lack of knowledge and foresight to realize that some two champs were to swap
Like Trynd mid and Viktor top
fiery pond
Now that I think of it, I wish there were more uses for general Starting Items than just "you buy them at the start of the game, then sell them later".
Like, why not have them build into better items, for starters?
waxen pasture
Like, why not have them build into better items, for starters?
Because the stats or passive that dorans ring blade and shield is extremely good
fiery pond
Because the stats or passive that dorans ring blade and shield is extremely good
Why not have those passives pass on to their upgrades?
waxen pasture
Why not have those passives pass on to their upgrades?
Why should it, pass down?
woeful horizon
remove autofill
waxen pasture
If the stats and passives became a permanent effect, it may create balancing issues
Since every AD champ in the game has more omvivamp
Every AP champ has less mana issues
ocean summit
what
waxen pasture
Unless it creates a positive change, leaving it as it is, is the best
Aren't you supposed to be sleeping
ocean summit
the new item changes created a positive change did they?
ocean summit
bcuase they whole point of the new items was to give people more choice
waxen pasture
Not really
ocean summit
so how would have starter items evolved into whole items not give people more choice
?!!?
waxen pasture
It was supposed to but it didn't
ocean summit
thast literally what they stated
waxen pasture
Riot wanted to create more options, but Riot realized that it's not that important
ocean summit
yeah becuase they cant balance their own items. but the point was for more choices
waxen pasture
So it's not a main game balance they are focusing on now
ocean summit
cool
waxen pasture
source
"The Mythic Forge Update brought a lot of change to itemization. We originally set out to ensure that all champions are able to make different strategic decisions through item choice in every game. While we continue to think this is the right goal, we've heard your feedback that having to make a strategic decision about every item in your inventory isn’t always desired or possible, especially in high tension games."
nvm if was p easy to find
ocean summit
cool
waxen pasture
Riots new goal is to create a viable mythic choice
waxen pasture
Instead of having a multiple choices
waxen pasture
now link the bit where they say they dont make champs with overloaded kits
What?
No one said that
ocean summit
its still irrelevant as to why starter items cant become components though
they give more choice and if the passives are too strong they should nerf it accordingly
not to mention they do that anyway with out components like the books for ludons
random shard
i dont think theres a real need for starter items to become components tho
ocean summit
ludens
waxen pasture
they give more choice and if the passives are too strong they should nerf it acc...
Don't you already have a good choice between starting items tho?
If your champ wants it
ocean summit
if youre going ap
waxen pasture
I thought you start dark seal refillable
ocean summit
seal is trash starter compared to dorans
random shard
i mean its highest wr in d2 rn
ocean summit
becuase she cant build dorans
random shard
so how is it a trash start?????????
ocean summit
if thast the only possible starter
waxen pasture
so how is it a trash start?????????
^
random shard
u literally
ocean summit
then its obviously going to have a higher winrate
waxen pasture
I don't really see anyone complaining about having one starting item as Kat
ocean summit
it is compared to other starts
random shard
what?????
waxen pasture
???
waxen pasture
You are the most special one here
random shard
LOL?
waxen pasture
We literally proved you wrong multiple times and you just shift the goal post every single time
ocean summit
nop.e
ocean summit
as far
as items
go
dorans
is better
than darkseal
but she cant start
dorans
random shard
we are literally
talking starter items
and u urself
are saying
she cant start dorans
ocean summit
and as a starting item
random shard
so why the fuck would she not go dark seal
ocean summit
dorans is better
because he asked
if we have enough choices
with starter items?!!?!?1
do u even read the convo
waxen pasture
Is Dark seal not a starting item?
random shard
dark seal is literally the most gold efficient starting ite
so start wise, stat wise
ocean summit
and im not happy with the choices i have for starter items
waxen pasture
I'm so confused rn lnfao
random shard
LOL
waxen pasture
Whatever this thread is public, anyone reading will say the same thing as us
ocean summit
how is that hard to understand
that kat, a weak early game champ
is also now even weaker becuase shes limited to
a weaker starter item already
how is that difficult
for u to understand
?!
how did u ever get employed?
anywhere
tender elk
Wdym weaker starter item
random shard
ur acting like dark seal isnt one of the most broken items in the game lol
tender elk
How is it weaker than dark seal on a manaless champ
waxen pasture
how did u ever get employed?
My thoughts exactly...
You need to work at fast food and get your attitude fixed
tender elk
is also now even weaker becuase shes limited to
How is she limited to dark seal
It’s just her best starting item cuz she doesn’t need the mana regen from dark seal, and her ad ratios aren’t high enough for her to go full ad for max dmg
And dark seal let’s her snowball which she is usually aiming to do anyways
crystal totem
Add the ability to "Honour if" > "player honours you" etc 😄
gusty ingot
Honor enemy team
river kernel
Add a free battlepass for summoner's rift with blue essence, orange essence, a few skins, and maybe a good skin at the end
The skins don't have to be good since it's free
Maybe the ranked rewards thing could be buffed to be like this
fading merlin
Buff Garen Like I need him
mossy wadi
delete stacking champs like veigar and nasus
thresh, senna
chilly tartan
thresh, senna
They're not as bad honestly