1300 hours still silver

[finite moth]

I have 1300 hours in league of legends over the last 2 seasons, ive only started season 11. But after 1300 hours grinding im still only silver with a 45-55 winrate should I just accept that im trash and go play something else?

ign: Schaapiee

[steep crypt]

You should take a break once a while

A break can go a long way

Also watch some videos, might help you improve and vod review if you really wish

[orchid ginkgo]

I was silver my first two season in league

it just takes practice

and finding the right champion

[finite moth]

I do, a lot actually because i really like to watch twitch

my ign in Schaapiee btw

[steep crypt]

Your zac is pretty good, you can try one tricking him

[past smelt]

League is very grindy and hard to understand

[finite moth]

but i fell like my mechanics are aboslute trash, i tried 1v1 ing random people and i got destroyed by bronze players i thought that also might be a part

[past smelt]

You may be doing few mistakes which makes you lose games guaranteed but once you get rid of them

You'll start climbing

[steep crypt]

Don’t feel bad you lost to a lower rank player, just focus on how you could’ve done that better

[finite moth]

just like pure mechanics trading and stuff always goes wrong for me

[royal rain]

how many ranked games out of these 1300 hours ?

[past smelt]

Did you ever ask why?

[finite moth]

500

[steep crypt]

Trading is about knowing your character and learning your limits and knowing your enemy

[royal rain]

and what is your champ pool is it wide or a few champs

[steep crypt]

“Know thy enemy and know thy self and you need not worry about a loss”

[finite moth]

so yall say i should just pick my few champs keep grinding

[past smelt]

Definitely stick to only few champions

[royal rain]

well dont go full one trick because if it's banned then you do nothing

[past smelt]

Depends what's your goal

[finite moth]

my goal tbh be the best i can possible be

[past smelt]

First of all

[steep crypt]

That’s usually what people do ask mastering one champ lets you perfect that character and fundamentals

[past smelt]

You should look at macro aspects of League

[finite moth]

i just gte so bored

after playing a lot

[past smelt]

It's good to stick to only few champions because you become more experienced

[steep crypt]

Breaks.

[past smelt]

You don't have to focus on mechanics while learning macro

[finite moth]

ye i know but i see a lot that i lose fights i shouldve definitly won when im ahead for example but i just get outplayed

[past smelt]

That's okay

This is about experience like knowing when to fight and how to use spells

[steep crypt]

Limit testing

[reef oasis]

youll get out of there, I started playing mid s11 and was a trash adc player. Then switched to top and now im plat on camille in a little over a year of playing league

[steep crypt]

Some characters may have more outplay potential that yours

[finite moth]

i just felt like after 1300 hours i should be good at that stuff but yall say thats not true?

[reef oasis]

do you one trick ?

[past smelt]

Depends

[steep crypt]

I mean you should ideally be better but everyone’s different. Some people are just naturally better at climbing, some are onetricks,

[finite moth]

So in short, keep playing don't get demotivated dont switch champs to much just keep focused on playing smart

[steep crypt]

Pretty much

[finite moth]

welp

[past smelt]

May be hard to combine everything

Focus and improve only one thing

[silver ether]

You need to think about why you’re doing things and the outcomes of things that you do or happen

[steep crypt]

Dont forget to take mental breaks if you’re having bad games or days

[silver ether]

if you’re not the type that does that naturally, then getting better is going to be work and not necessarily fun

[oak mirage]

Then climb

[severe violet]

I believe that during those 1300 hours you solidified some bad habits you don't even know about that prevent you from climbing. From what I've read before you main jungle. First clear is the most important, every champion has a different more efficient clear path. Just check in what order top players of that champion clear the camps. Keep your champ pool small, you don't have to think on how to kill a camp or in what order to use abilities when you go in, it will allow you to focus on other important aspects (mostly macro) and to top it off if you want to climb fast you need someone to point out all the bad habits you have learned over past 2 years so you can work on them. Remember at the end of the day everyone can get Diamond 4 all it takes is just being good at one aspect of the game, it is also what separates them from higher ranks where people get progressively very good all around.

Also purely for climbing soloQ with no help (coach) if you don't want one.
Don't play when you are tierd and know you can't perform at your 100%.
Don't auto pilot.
Play early morning or late night (if you are well rested) so you play against 70% players at your 100%.
Don't think I have lost xx or gained xx lp today. It's completely irrelevant. Try to think about things you have learned during your session so you don't forget them.

[past smelt]

First thing first, pick a role and stick to it. Either play mid, jungle, or top. Just play one. There’s very few players in higher elos that can play multiple roles at a similar level.

If you’re going to lane, keep your CS up. CS is the core of power. More Gold/XP = more stats/items. If you’re a jungler, learn basic macro (and that alone can get you to diamond.)

I’ve had 0 mechanics (Volibear, Hecarim, Xin Zhao, and I’ve climbed easily as it is. While macro is the reason for jungle to exist, other lanes should learn it too. Stick to 1-2 champs and practice combos/CSing/clears in practice tool.

You suck, everyone sucks, I suck, just accept it and practice it until you can do it and not think about it anymore.

And don’t play mechanically intense champs either, you’re wasting time and LP doing it. Just play your Malzahars and Garens.

[balmy wolf]

This game is not just about mechanics

Learn the fundamentals first

[ebon sky]

Vod review

Also start having a smaller champ pool

Much easier to climb

if you do

And only main one role

No exceptions

having an autofill role is fine, but you need a main role

It's not easy climbing

But you definitely aren't helping yourself

[eternal cipher]

watch some vids on wave management and what you should be doing at this time that time etc

with time it'll come into effect

[ebon sky]

op is jgl main

[eternal cipher]

o

[ebon sky]

nvm

He plays everything

[eternal cipher]

jgl is island of info

[ebon sky]

scrolled down on opgg a bit

[autumn minnow]

No, please, please please just stop playing this game especially after 1300 hours, your skill is probably not bad, but after playing this game more your mental and physical health will definitely be

[ebon sky]

You aren't trash dw, you just don't put in any effort

Which is fine

[finite moth]

Actually both of u are correct o do main jungle but i have been playing lane as well to try to learn some matchups trading and wave managments to improve my ganking ad a jungler

[still lava]

sorry but yes

imo

[thick narwhal]

I suggest moving on.

[past rock]

dude league takes a loong loong time to learn bassics

i was bronze 3 for my first season

plat 1 for my 2nd

diamond 1 for my 3rd

[gilded axle]

Schaapiee this is what you got to do
focus on 2 roles and stick to it. If u doon't get to gold this season then i suggest u pack ur bags

[past rock]

master 400lp this season

[oblique holly]

i checked out your account, you should try sticking to 1 role and 2-4 champs

[past rock]

it taks time

to learn

[golden wind]

watch pro and informational videos of the champ you like to play. for example, I main zed and I watch Onzed mainly. hes a korean challenger who gives tips and ideas, insane macro. i learned a lot from him and continue learning.

[grand kiln]

i was bronze 3 for my first season, bronze 2 for my second season, and now i'm bronze 4 in my third season

[golden wind]

u got good growth. my first season i was gold 4 75lp. second was gold 3. this season plat 2. ill see you up there soon 🙂

[rapid dock]

yes, if u have been silver for that long then u will probably stay silver unless you get some very serious coaching

and by serious coaching i mean someone who will live view MANY of your games, emphasis on many, one or two games of coaching won't to much

[ebon sky]

No

You are in the same season because you don't play to improve

as soon as you start

you will see improvements slowly

Low elo are low elo, because they don't try to climb

It's impossible to be stuck there

[rapid dock]

That's not true at all

There are many people who are stuck in low elo who are actually trying to climb

[silver ether]

Treat the game like a job and you will climb

it just depends on your definition of trying

[ebon sky]

Send me their op gg and ask if they vod review

I want to see someone who is actively vod reviewing, keeping a small champ pool, playing ranked consistently and yet unable to climb

The bare minimum to climb

[ionic cypress]

You can literally climb to diamond by just grinding games and one tricking a champ you like

[past smelt]

Hi. Been playing since 2012 (when rengar came out)

Only achieved Gold IV as my max rank.

I am extremely toxic by the way and quit it in 2020 and came back now 2022.

My friends got to Diamond tho

[fleet flare]

you seem to be good at zac, just spam him, thats what im doing with sona and its working wonders

[wheat solstice]

is your goal to get better as a player or climb to a higher rank, they're both very different goals and you should just focus on a certain one to achieve. A gold player is almost equal level to a silver player but the only difference is pretty miniscule. a gold player who has played 500 games to get into g4 vs a silver1 with only 40 games most likely has the same skill set or the s1 is better. Getting good at league takes practice and skill, but getting a higher rank takes a grind and this applies to anything below d2.

[severe violet]

Going back to the grind

I play ADC and play kai'sa and only Kaisa for 200 games I'm stuck in D1

Is there any hope for me?

[proven mulch]

@finite moth are you the silver3 zac?

If yes the if you want to rank up instantly just stop treating ranked as a champ tryout

You aint faker to play 60+champs correctly

On different roles too

[regal lance]

@proven mulch if he plays jungle he needs atleast 5 champions

[proven mulch]

yeah sure

[ebon sky]

:X

[regal lance]

what rank are u?

[proven mulch]

d2 euw, why?

[regal lance]

what lane do u play

[ebon sky]

Jungle role is the only role that actually doesn't have hard counters

Unlike other roles in the game

[regal lance]

i mean if he is a nocturne main and his team is full ad with no tanks he will play nocturne

[past smelt]

Hm.

This.

Is kinda true.

[regal lance]

or lets say he is xin zhao main and he is banned he needs more picks to play

[past smelt]

Some champs are just hard ruined by certain picks.

[regal lance]

he cant have 2-3 champs to play

[proven mulch]

yeah you can have a main and 2 backups

but thats all you need

[regal lance]

my friend plays 2 diffrent roles and 10 diffrent champs and he is master

[proven mulch]

bro hes silver you really think diverse champ pool its his biggest problem?

[regal lance]

probably not ig xd

[past smelt]

I mean, champ pool isn’t even a factor below Master.

And higher on, you can see some people just one trick in any role.

[regal lance]

in the server i play

grandmasters are same players like platinums

or golds

[past smelt]

Is that JP server?

[regal lance]

no

[past smelt]

That has to be JP server.

[regal lance]

its eune

[past smelt]

That server is so small that Diamonds can be rank 10.

[regal lance]

when i was a kid i thought japanese server was like korean and i would play it on 300 ms

i think it was japanese xd

[proven mulch]

eune its not THAT bad, i mean its bad compared to euw but not bad overall compared to all

[ebon sky]

Either way, you really don't need 5 champs

to play jungle

Especially if you are jungle

[proven mulch]

you need 1 xd, but a few backups are nice

[regal lance]

idk ive played vs rank 300 eune and he was average diamond plat player

twice too

[ebon sky]

1-3 is best

[past smelt]

Dead server moment.

[regal lance]

xd

i was 18/2 evelynn jungle

[past smelt]

Better than JP though.

[regal lance]

with a griefing bot lane

[past smelt]

JP rank 120? Is like D2.

[proven mulch]

eune got same player count as NA so yea

[regal lance]

but i play 4 roles and 100 diffrent champs

[distant bloom]

just accept that you are trash its gonna be easier to improve after that

[round zealot]

As long as you keep improving.

Learning new champions/learning different roles. Etc.

Your improving. Ignore the people crying about rank. When they themselves are being terrorized in diamond-master elos.

The more you improve the better you become

[dim turtle]

bro honestly it's not always ur fault

but most times it just might be

oh and one thing, people who just say u belong in ur rank arent always right and yes elo hell does exist so if ur still silver ur either really really really bad or u really have unluck when it comes to riot's matchmaking to your account

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/449661184451411968/1001617929512689695/unknown.png

for example:

most games are like this, i put pressure around the map take as much objectives i can even tho 90% of the time teams already died before drake or herald and have no prio, and even after that i keep putting pressure but it doesn't matter because bronze players are disgustingly bad when it comes to objectives and laning phase and macro or anything in general

i wish i could do something but i think the only sollution is really play some sort of split pushing top lane champion and dedicate to that so i dont have to rely on team at all lol

[round zealot]

Coming from a guy who’s also around that same amount of time.

I know I’m not going to hit the rank that I know I should be in for the gameplay i show.

Cause I get “the people who commit more to trolling all their games then actually wanting to win”

But as long as you commit to improving yourself spending more time is fine.

If anyone tells you to make a new account and start over. Those same people literally make 10 account a season to end up playing 1000+ games across all of them.

[ebon sky]

img not working

[dim turtle]

oh

basically me as nunu dealing more damage than my whole team because they're literally AI

and i can't split cuz its nunu, i dont do damage late game nor I take towers

[signal citrus]

if you have more than 500 games in one rank, it is your fault

[dim turtle]

i absolutely dominated early putting pressure around all the map and they throw every time

[dim turtle]

nah

[signal citrus]

yes

[dim turtle]

i have like 100 wins and i have climbed from iron to bronze

i mean for me fraxxer

xd

[signal citrus]

that's not 500?

[dim turtle]

100 wins

[signal citrus]

and you're climbing, it's not the same

[dim turtle]

and high win rate

i did climb

from iron 1 to bronze 1 where im at now

[signal citrus]

if you're genuinely stuck and can't get out of a division with more than like 300-500 games it's your fault

[dim turtle]

and like I said

its not my case

ur pressing the same buttons when ive already said my case

[signal citrus]

when was i ever talking about you tho

xd

[dim turtle]

if u can see the screenshot its just one of many games where its absolutely not my fault

its one of those games where u cant win

[signal citrus]

im literally not talking about you 😭😭

[dim turtle]

im the only one talking rn

who are u gonna talk with lol alone?

[signal citrus]

you will have unwinnable games, but that won't be a reason you can't climb

[dim turtle]

ok lol

alone u will be

[signal citrus]

i was making a comment about what was said above

[dim turtle]

ill leave u

[signal citrus]

stfu lol

[dim turtle]

i will to leave u to talk alone :3

[round zealot]

Dw Enjeru he’s busy making his 11th account which he makes 10 a season

[signal citrus]

what 😭

acting like im hardstuck like you

[worthy flower]

ik people that has been playing since beta still bronce 3

[round zealot]

@signal citrus the fact you cry about us. When literally your a Vlad 1 trick with 10+ diamond accounts. Honestly just sad

[signal citrus]

1. i have like 6 accounts and pretty much only play on 1
2. i have 1 diamond account, which i just hit diamond on and its my main account, 66% wr with a 72% wr with vlad (which means im still gonna climb to a higher rank unlike you)
3. what's wrong with being a otp? it's better than being whatever the fuck you are playing every role and champ
4. being diamond with less than a 100 games is miles better than 1k games in gold

[worthy flower]

well if ur an otp u have no future after master

[signal citrus]

totally false xd

[worthy flower]

people will track ur acc and ban vladi

[signal citrus]

there are many otps in challenger

[worthy flower]

they normally otp two champ

[signal citrus]

challenger/gm

otping isn't smth like micro where it restricts your rank

if you only know micro you will get to diamond max

[worthy flower]

yeah but what if people track ur acc and ban vladi

u gon have to learn at least another champ

[signal citrus]

i have no issue with learning another champ, i've already given a list of champs im comfortable with playing

[worthy flower]

also, hot take: gold players micro>diamond players micro, but diamond players usually get carried by insane macro

[worthy flower]

then ur gonna climb up a lot

[signal citrus]

unlike blightknight

[signal citrus]

most diamond players excel in micro

what makes them stuck in this elo anyways

[worthy flower]

yeah

well im not in position to talk bout diamond players im silver

but on my defense i got vs a diamond 3 last season in positionals

[round zealot]

Trust me theirs barely any difference

You will still find people that troll their games Diamond plus

[signal citrus]

if you're unable to climb past the rank you were last season with less than 300 or so games, you're perma stuck xd

there is a huge difference btw

a diamond player will stomp silver

[worthy flower]

well i played 1 game that wasnt positional

[signal citrus]

it's not even close

[worthy flower]

well

i just won a d4 corki

[signal citrus]

norms?

[worthy flower]

playing literally crit garen

[worthy flower]

yes i never play anything else

[signal citrus]

if norms doesn't matter

sadly

[worthy flower]

i dont play rankeds never

[signal citrus]

i mean good for you, you seem to be enjoying the game

that's what's important

[worthy flower]

i won a master player a 1vs1, but then in a real match hes gonna destroy me by wave control, rotating and teamwork

[signal citrus]

yep

[round zealot]

You can literally watch any streamer in those elos you will find players that literally look like their boosted out of iron

[signal citrus]

ok?

bad game who cares

some of them are legit boosted

but majority who have bad games get called boosted etc when it was just a bad game or bad day

[round zealot]

“Some of them”

[worthy flower]

im following the plan of my friend that is master, told me to play norms for years, increase my mmr and only climb when i reach a good positional season

[signal citrus]

1 game doesn't dictate their entire play

[worthy flower]

also norms matchmaking is hilarious, i go vs bronce 2 and diamond players every match, well not every match ngl but platinum ye

[signal citrus]

and yes, a lot of ppl get boosted to d4 but that doesn't mean entire rank is boosted

[round zealot]

Bruh I hope you realize the higher and higher you go the higher chance you have at going against the same people. Cause D2+ is like 5% of a regions player base

[signal citrus]

ok?

i know that?

[worthy flower]

my friend paid 35 dolla for getting boosted to D4 and he demoted all the way upto g3

[round zealot]

Meaning someone who ran it in your games has a higher chance of being in your next game

[signal citrus]

still doesn't change the fact that a diamond player will obliterate a silver player

[round zealot]

Yet they do anyway

[signal citrus]

people getting boosted to diamond doesn't mean entire rank is full of boosted ppl lol

[signal citrus]

yes they do, diamonds do obliterate silvers lol

thank you for agreeing

[round zealot]

Fraxxer: I can tell you right now almost 90% of people showcased in happychimes that are somehow plat plus.

With their off meta picks. Are literally boosted all their games

[signal citrus]

????

that's so false xd

[worthy flower]

yes

[signal citrus]

also weird how you're using happychimenoises to say shit like that

[round zealot]

You believe a ap wukong climbed to masters?

[signal citrus]

when that's literally 1 player out of the thousands in those elos

[worthy flower]

yes

check their op.gg

are they gonna pay someone else for using ap wukong too?

[signal citrus]

i've literally watched happychimenoises videos, and even checked the players opggs for myself

it's legit lol

you're just gonna get rid of all their hard work using an off meta pick because you can't climb yourself?

makes sense

[round zealot]

Yeah and I’m going to tell you this right now.

Either the people they play against are all wearing lee sin blindfolds.

Or just playing league of legends with donkey king bongos

[worthy flower]

also they arent random champs + random build, its not tyler1 using ultimate bravery, they are ingenious pick, somes even became meta

[signal citrus]

xD im done talking with you, it's crazy to think you're just gonna get rid of what they've done because you're unable to climb

[worthy flower]

ud say the same bout bauffs like how is this guy climbing to korean chall with sion lethality

if he didnt stream

[signal citrus]

you auto think the people they're playing against are boosted because they happen to climb with an off meta pick

[worthy flower]

• a lot of those off meta stream

[signal citrus]

it's crazy you think like that

[round zealot]

Ingenious picks.

On hit full damage tahm kench?

[signal citrus]

seem very narcissistic

it's ok you'll never reach the elos they reach even if you do stop doing random shit

so im fine

[worthy flower]

they were able to make the most fun build for em and made it to high elo

its ingenious

[round zealot]

https://youtu.be/GF3sVin67qs

This is ingenious

[signal citrus]

you're using zwag

the fuck are you on

he literally goes into norm games

[worthy flower]

thats not happy chime💀

[signal citrus]

that shit isn't ranked

like

💀

[round zealot]

I’m just showing a example of what you find on happy chimes

This isn’t on happy chimes but this what I mean by

[signal citrus]

dude just let the people climb with picks they want climb with, if you wanna climb without playing 1k games and still being stuck gold, maybe try a little harder and drop the 100+ champ pool

[round zealot]

But if you want a happy chimes once here you go

https://youtu.be/D8n2UCYj9sM

Not trolling at the slightest

[worthy flower]

no

as hes 10 ranks above u

[signal citrus]

you're flaming these people for doing picks like that even tho you will literally never even be able to reach for something like gm

[worthy flower]

plus he plays roaming style full dmg, literally same strat was meta but in top

[signal citrus]

💀

[round zealot]

Then clearly everyone he’s gone against. Are busy emoting all his games

[signal citrus]

surely man

like stfu please

[worthy flower]

u can flame em when they pick that in ur games

but please get to their elos before talking

[round zealot]

and for the record with bauffs

It was the definition of a unhealthy strat

[signal citrus]

or atleast not be gold with 1k games

[round zealot]

I don’t care if he climbed with it actually should’ve been banned for what he was doing.

Turned Sion into the champion who ints all his games

[worthy flower]

my friend is 200 games bronce 4 0 lp, but his mmr is cursed

[signal citrus]

unfortunate

[worthy flower]

yeah, lets ban number 1 euw, hes trolling

[signal citrus]

baus wasn't the one who made inting sion a thing btw

[round zealot]

Bruh he’s literally somehow winning with 20+ deaths all his games

He wasn’t the one who made it but he’s the one who popularized it

[signal citrus]

in case you didn't know that

[worthy flower]

yeah he made it popular + climbed with it

[worthy flower]

hes solo carrying

[signal citrus]

he did the same thing like everyone else does when he sees something work for his champ

abuse it

like

💀

[worthy flower]

hes found a way of compensating the fact that his champion is super weak early game and can solo carry games

[round zealot]

Solo carry games by turning Sion into the inting champion

[signal citrus]

it's like you can't read

[worthy flower]

die for gold, so u give every time less gold and get gold while it, having supreme macro, never wasting a minute, outscaling everyone, making situations better

[round zealot]

Why do you think he’s currently one of the worst champions top atm

Cause everyone is still doing inting Sion

[worthy flower]

cuz aatrox, riven that kind of champs are meta

sion is an scaling split pushing tank

how is he gonna kill an aatrox that has 4 abilities that makes sion unable to use Q

[round zealot]

Simple you don’t blind Sion

[worthy flower]

also a lot of OTP aatrox and riven are now going crazy

[worthy flower]

so simple

its lit rng

[round zealot]

Coming from a guy who’s mained Sion for 2 years

[worthy flower]

plus there are champs that are sion but better

[signal citrus]

also, you're saying don't blind sion when sion has literally been a counterpick for years

he's never been a blind pick lol

[round zealot]

Sion is currently in one of his worst states possible

[worthy flower]

i have been an otp of sion for 2 months maybe putting 150 hours on it at this moment, testing every build, from tank to ap to crit

[round zealot]

“Ap” “crit” you being serious

[signal citrus]

more serious than you

💀

[worthy flower]

yes, i know every playstile, weakness, strenght, what he builds in every case, matchups, situations etc...

there are cases ur more usefull as crit than tank

[round zealot]

Yeah and I have 1 question.

Wtf would I ever build ap or crit on this fffing champ

Instead of just picking something else

[signal citrus]

??????

you're def trolling now

there's no way you just said that

sion either builds crit or tank lol

[round zealot]

Fraxxer your defending ap crit Sion you realise

[signal citrus]

im defending crit sion

not ap crit

[round zealot]

On a scaling tank

[worthy flower]

1: Having fun
2: I was an otp i NEEDED to have every way of playing it
3: AP sion can do easily 7 secs cc by himself while being tank + tilts every enemy
4: crit sion beat vayne that is one of the worst matchups ever

[worthy flower]

ap crit no, ap or crit

[signal citrus]

sions main build is literally either crit or tank

[round zealot]

Then the vayne is ffing dog shit in a free match up.

[round zealot]

Ap Sion yeah no your griefing

[signal citrus]

anyways useless to argue with someone like blightknight

peace

[worthy flower]

but mostly i play it lethality way + h__ullbreaker and titanic__

[worthy flower]

if u know how fog of war and bushes work no

[round zealot]

Yeah and this is why Sion is in the dumpster right now

[worthy flower]

Q>R>E>autos is lit free kill

[worthy flower]

yeah cuz of one guy

not the whole meta

probably having 5k health + 400 ad is bad

[round zealot]

One guy. You mean everyone still doing lethality inting Sion

[round zealot]

You are never having this much HP as full Ad Sion

[worthy flower]

yeah no

[worthy flower]

i said full ad when

read

[round zealot]

@signal citrus please go back to the Vlad posts Sion doesn’t concern you since you’ve never touched the ffing champ

[round zealot]

G I wonder what 400 AD means

[worthy flower]

health=dmg if u dont know how titanic works

[signal citrus]

? prowlers into items like youmuus is literally his core build

[round zealot]

Yeah and full dmg on a tank who’s incredibly easy to kill as a adc is never a good option.

[signal citrus]

outside sunfire build

but ok bro 💀

[worthy flower]

and sion scales to infinite health, hence making it infinite dmg

[worthy flower]

if u land em a ult from far away its a free kill 99% of time

[signal citrus]

literally said i was leaving anyways, idk why u pinged me

like gtfo

[worthy flower]

• i play only splitpushing, i do 20k dmg to turrets at least every game

[round zealot]

I’m going to tell you what to do. To avoid Sion ult.

If he’s ulting down lane. Sit in the river.

If you behind tower and he’s diving with ult. Sit behind tower, and circle around it.

If he’s ulting in the jungle literally sit next to terrain where he won’t connect with you

[worthy flower]

also, i think the lethality rune page is really bad, i play the tank runes also, for more health and its the most broken rune in the game rn

[round zealot]

Yeah and this is play style is what every top lane Sion player has adopted too.

Which is why he’s the worst top in the game 47% wr

[worthy flower]

if u ult a straight line just quit sion, if they sit instantly behind turret the aoe still hits its nonsese, little terrains wont do anything

[round zealot]

Bruh stop argueing with the guy who has over 2000 Sion games

[worthy flower]

nope i just love split pushing, i play toplane because is the closest to a 1vs1, i do not like having a team, i will win the game myself by destroying nexus alone

[worthy flower]

and still on gold

[round zealot]

Can’t wait for inting Sion to get you out of bronze

Before riots hits the inting hammer

[worthy flower]

yeah id be gold if i wanted but rn im busy with gym + studying, also not feeling like playing league rn i hate this meta

ive played 11 games of ranked literally, including positionals

got bronce I with my inting teammates

[round zealot]

And then you come home every day to play inting Sion cause your the son of the bauffs

[worthy flower]

and pianta do not forget

[round zealot]

I wonder who’s the one doing inting Sion in probably all his games

[worthy flower]

i just like how they enjoy the game, ive even played ryze (ad and ap)

[worthy flower]

yeah u think im playing an off-meta pick in positionals bruh

delusional

[round zealot]

AD RYZE

AD RYZE

[worthy flower]

yeah in norms

[round zealot]

You can’t be serious

Yeah and what do you think of achieving with this pick

[worthy flower]

with a premade of at least 4 friends for making sure i dont ruin games for randoms

[worthy flower]

im not

and thats the idea

standart ap ryze is already troll, ad is even worse

i just enjoy playing fun picks in normals

[round zealot]

Then why are you even doing it

[worthy flower]

im in normals with friends i do not need to aim for the win

even if i loose vs players that are worse than me

ik my level and so do my friends i dont have to go tryhard every game to prove a random 15yo (just for making it clear, not going to) that im better than him

[round zealot]

The Ad ryze is losing against the players who are worse then him.

I pretty sure that doesn’t make any sence

[worthy flower]

it makes

why?

because i have fun playing this game

[round zealot]

Your choosing to build Ad on a champion who gets nothing from building Ad and then call the enemy team worse when you lose

And have your 4 friends play with you so you don’t troll randoms

Bruh stop wasting everyone’s time

With your “fun builds”

[worthy flower]

no, i can recognize if someone is better than me or not, i do not need to do my best every game, i loose to players better than me, i hate flaming

[round zealot]

Then go play aram

Where every game is a cluster fuck

[worthy flower]

so they do not get tilt, yall forget this is a game and i dont want to ruin the fun of others, because my friends think its fine, not everyone has same concept of fun

[round zealot]

Yeah and I care when someone on my team is just wasting my ffing time

[worthy flower]

nope, its almost a different game, it restricts a lot of playstiles and u can even choose what to play

[round zealot]

No it doesn’t

If you see a nasus he’s most likely going to build ap

[worthy flower]

ur alrd wasting it by being tryhard on normals on a game actually

[worthy flower]

yeah what if i want to play idk teemo jng

or river shen

[round zealot]

ITS ARAM YOUR NOT PLAYING SUMMERS RIFT

[worthy flower]

yeah thats like the whole idea of NOT playing aram

just what i said

its not the same

[round zealot]

And yet you still choose to waste your time and all your friends time. Cause you want to have fun with builds on champions that make 0 sence

[worthy flower]

if u tilt over off-meta fun picks on blind pick/draft just dont write and go take a walk, u wont even have fun

[worthy flower]

i want to have fun and i have it wdym

[round zealot]

Yeah and are you going to do this same stuff in ranked games

?

[worthy flower]

im pretty sure me and the boys have more fun playing literal bardo jng full lethality (never played it is an example) than u playing meta champs in ranked

[worthy flower]

ofc not

ranked is a serious place

[round zealot]

Yet your still playing lethality inting Sion

[worthy flower]

well, as serious as a game can be, but yeah u do not play that

[worthy flower]

i explicitly said i do not

i play the meta

the really few times i play iy

[round zealot]

so i have a suggestion instead of playing coop games with friends and doing off meta builds wasting everyones times. Go into practice tool and see what happens. That way the only person whos wasting time

is you

Cause you really want to know

what full Ad ryze does

when you can do the same thing on any mage with no Ad ratios and get the same result

[worthy flower]

yes, i did it also on: LeBlanc, vladimir, lillia, sylas, azir, vel koz, orianna, annie, kennen and veigar

[round zealot]

and you wonder why your not getting better. Your too busy doing this

[worthy flower]

and i dont want to see what it does, i already know it

i just have fun doing it

[worthy flower]

i never do, i get better over time doing anything

[round zealot]

better over time building full ad on no ad ratio mages

[worthy flower]

yes

i have to think more than when i play garen

i just played it today and won vs fed diam corki

[round zealot]

do not say ap

[worthy flower]

it wasnt

crit + speed

cuz i knew damn well i aint catching ezreal, kayn or trynda without the ms

i pressed E and did 3k dmg

i didnt learn almost anything

normal game again

[ebon sky]

Is he trolling you lol

Your mmr wont' increase as far as I know

unless you duo with high mmr accoutns

Because it's really hard to raise norms mmr solo

[ruby thunder]

I have a friend that is D2 EUNE, stuck p4 with negative wr in EUW. Have an acc in eune but never played on it tbh most people who have played in both say the same

[ruby thunder]

Completely wrong

[ruby thunder]

Most dia players are “bad” because other than micro they got nothing going for them

[ruby thunder]

Yeah, I got cucked from this. Tilted the fck out of a support player, queued with him on my team 4 games in a row over a span of 4 hours

[ruby thunder]

Zwag? The guy who only plays silver-gold and uploads games from norms?

[past smelt]

It's not the same at all

East is more of a casual playing

[ruby thunder]

Yeah as in they all say euw and eune are like night and day

Btw unrelated to the topic, just finished reading the entire thing. This is pure gold

[past smelt]

Yeah

Sometimes it's very laughable

I meant to say always

[tiny venture]

i just want to say

at this point, are you trying to observe and learn about wave states and how it affects you and the game

and are you lowering ur champ pool? you should get a sweet spot. 3 per role or smth.

[ruby thunder]

Isn’t that what norms are for?

[past smelt]

This guy is a troll

Don't be disturbed

[ruby thunder]

🙏

[past smelt]

Don't spam in the future, that's not appropriate.

Thank you

[regal lance]

ik

[worthy flower]

i play vs diamond/plat players frequently so i think it works

[worthy flower]

they gon track and ban ur champ

[ruby thunder]

Masters and up is filled with OTPs

[worthy flower]

they can play one or two champs even zzang has played more yone than yasuo cuz he gets yasuo banned

[ruby thunder]

he is a streamer, people are ghosting. Very different

[worthy flower]

u can get acc tracked easily

[ebon sky]

You theoretically could, but high elo still has otps

[worthy flower]

that can use properly other 1 or 2 champs, so not real otps, pzzang is said to be the "best otp yasuo", still has more yone gmaes

[unreal iron]

The first thing to recognize is the fact that there is a problem. That’s step one. Whatever you have done so far, hasn’t worked. The way you view and even consider the game is flawed, if you are that hardstuck. Recognize that’s your reality and move on.

Focus on just one lane, and really compare yourself to better players playing that same lane with the same champions you do

What is it, that they do, that you don’t do.

Is it lane mechanics like stacking waves or freezing, is it mechanical ability like comboing correctly or trading?

If jungle, focus on your jungle clear, what is it that other junglers do that you don’t do, and watch their pov and copy what they do

[slow estuary]

do you know if he has a discord sever

[ruby thunder]

Nope but he probably does have one