Endgame+Shroud Build

[split lotus]

[FIRST RAID+DLC] ✅️

First thing I want to say, is I did not come up with this build, none of it is my own tested and proven work - it was a collaboration of the community here to help others. I really don't want to claim credit for sh*t anyways. Won't make me feel better.

Here's a rundown of why this point distribution is more ideal at lv50+62 talent points even before raids.

FAQs:

Q:

"Is damage shop bad? It gives like 500 AP at 5 points while Titan's Might gives 50..."
A:
[See screenshot in comments]
"in early game, no. Damage shop is better. But glory upgrades unlock AP contribution from strength upgrades, which raise your AP per point to ridiculous amounts, so much even without any talents, you'd easily see >1k AP on the info button next to str."

Q:

"Idk, why would anyone would use 3 nerve 3 hidden skills? I'm probably the only one who puts 1 in hidden skills."

A:

"That will give you less speed and only gain the most minor amont of crit. Blood Haste gives 0.5% speed per 1% crit. Nerve gives 0.5% per point. Every single point in hidden skills is 1% speed, nerve is 0.25%."

Q:

"I am getting trashed by the first raid boss, your build suxxx"

A:

"You have to first read the #1276300708047491135 section and have the gear from the comment section +tap not hold, and have atleast 5m or so AP to beat the boss before it rages on you."

Link to the suggested gear to use for raids: <#1340559153847865456 message>

Credits for those who used/designed this build:

@jaunty bolt & @cold cloud & @perebble

-# As well as @split nebula

And thank you, Ed. ❤️

Bottom: No talents, all shop+glory upgrades
Top: With the build

With build+some sh*tty gear. (No, my gold % is not ridiculous hax. Popped a rando gold voideye, idk why but it went 6% -> 260% -> 6%)

[split lotus]

For a first raid, this gear from the endgame build is advised. (I switched the raid gear for preraid gear.) You can farm a better companion from deadly sewers if preferred.

[steep patio]

Thank you helped me out alot

[balmy lotus]

Where do you get the Pawblade?

[split lotus]

King's Road

[balmy lotus]

Huh, ok

[split lotus]

The drop rate of epics on the world maps is looow, likely bc of unstoppable.

[balmy lotus]

I'm still trying to get just better stuff in general, getting my ass kicked by drop rates

Wish the wiki was kept up to date

[split lotus]

Yeah, in dungeons fate runner's works.

[balmy lotus]

Trying to get that hammer right now and I'd love to know the drop rate, ha

[balmy lotus]

Oooooh, yay

Wonder if I have those boots..

Wow, that nuked my DPS xD

Can't kill anything now

[jaunty bolt]

🫂

right, because those have no stats

[balmy lotus]

Lets see if I can grind for the raven blade to try and get some stats back

[split lotus]

GL... Darknessbird did 1.8k runs for it a while agp.

[balmy lotus]

quiet screaming

[split lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-gif-21994457

[balmy lotus]

https://tenor.com/1Pc6.gif

[balmy lotus]

Is the tutorial island blade better than the smasher?

Holy heck I just got the scorched chromium boots

[stoic nova]

U will miss 1 Multi hit and 1 Dodge

Attack power is not everything

[ivory phoenix]

Did Wild Deviate Smasher Changed? i just got it but it have +1 lifesteal and not +10... 😮

[jaunty bolt]

Yeah, that pic is old, like september 2024, don't know for sure, but probably was nefred because after blackmoon you can get +10 passive lifesteal

[ivory phoenix]

Ok... build is still working anyway ❤️ Ty for the answer 😊

[atomic ember]

Just started using this build

https://tenor.com/view/cats-cat-cute-couple-two-gif-9356739562451371485

[balmy lotus]

Any recommendations for what to do for a Crypt build?

[split lotus]

Yes.
https://discord.com/channels/1250384171440934995/1376658324665143387
Should work. Add the extra points into damage reduction and speed from crit if you have enough

[balmy lotus]

Ok

Oh wait, this is the uh, the scary end crypt raid thing

[split lotus]

OH.

[balmy lotus]

I'm down to floor six with a gem and a hat... Lets see what happens next

[split lotus]

Then this build is totally good. 5 res each type = win

[balmy lotus]

HUH

Well then

Just gotta have my autoclicks in the right spot

Boy, these are really nice drops.. If it wasn't for the -2 life steal

[split lotus]

Is it angel or the 7?

[balmy lotus]

Doing the 7 right now, it seems pretty easy

Angel is next

Ok, just need more money

[split lotus]

Yep. If you can't clear it, farm firecliffs or evercold for res gear and you'll win after you have both

The 7 don't enter rage mode as far as I am aware so speed is not an issue, it's just damage taken early on. Later you'll have redemption damage and beat Zenith without res lol

[balmy lotus]

Ha

[strong moon]

Thanks for the build. Completed first raid

[gleaming harbor]

i cant do complete raids i have build the skills from here an dpower lvl 126 but im to weak

[split lotus]

@gleaming harbor Ayo. Try to find this gear from the dlc and tapping all the time is better than just when you need tap mechanics

[split lotus]

126 is sus high for pre-raid. Are you using autoequip?

[gleaming harbor]

thats my gear, what is the dlc gear ?

[split lotus]

You can farm King's Road, but Ashtar Sewers (deadly) has the best pre-raid pet. Have you read #1276300708047491135 ?
@gleaming harbor

[gleaming harbor]

ah ok i will try to farm no i dont read all

[split lotus]

#1287066705939402866 message

[gleaming harbor]

thank you usefull hahaha with meteor i dont know it before

[split lotus]

Tap mechanics are what make raids different from dungeons, and anytime. Always happy to help

[gleaming harbor]

i cleared my first raid ty @split lotus 🥰

[random crest]

a pet drop in this map? Is the drop chance very low?

[split lotus]

Yes, but it's typically found in a night of shadow speed farming. You actually can farm a better one from ashtar sewers deadly tho

[random crest]

i use Shadow speed farming, but this skill dont but this ability does not activate if you are one-shotting enemies

[split lotus]

Yes it works.

Ascend to lower the codex back to 1

[split lotus]

https://discord.com/channels/1250384171440934995/1401327013788254268

Weapon min damage × AP = max unstoppable

[random crest]

Uh, thank you very much, I'm going to the sewers.

and this weapon to get that special equipment, does it kill enemies anywhere?

[split lotus]

Yes it's calculated damage is the same. 1-2 × AP = output

It's rather useless tho

It only raises the rate of lower than purple rarity drops

[split lotus]

Here's an updated version so others aren't confused. I'm pretty sure many prefer images instead even where I wrote the companion in ashtar sewers was prefrence. 🙂

[random crest]

aegis is this? lvl 48?

And aren't the gloves better than the ones I have?

I can't even get to the boss in tutorial island to get the shimmerald pants.

[split lotus]

No.

[split lotus]

You were doing the dlc. Beat the dlc first

[random crest]

Great, I just killed Fireblood Cliffs on normal. This was my loadout.

I only completed floor 1 haha

[jaunty bolt]

'keeps stunning me', did you read about mechanics?

@spice shore whyyy 🥲

[spice shore]

got it, it was easy

[humble harbor]

Bro how did u win with that. I have the exact same loadout and better stats then u and still im just gettin obliterated by the boss

[split lotus]

Tap don't hold. And use the talents in the post.

Also reference the tutorials for tap mechanics

[humble harbor]

I did use the talents

Imma try the tap thing tho

[split lotus]

Your attack timer only resets on crits if you tap

[humble harbor]

Bro thx it worked perfectly

[split lotus]

Anytime

[humble harbor]

Alr i got till stage 3 and i couldve won if i was on pc with an auto clicker

But thx anyway

[split lotus]

5 fire res

[random crest]

si, usa la rama de talentons que hizo delucidate y lei la estrategia para matar a los jefes que tambien esta en este discord. lo que hice fue conseguir algo de equipo en el primer jefe para Recien despues poder matar al segundo, y despues de farmear algo de equipo completar pudela

Yes, use the talent branch that delucidate made and I read the strategy to kill the bosses that is also in this discord. What I did was get some gear on the first boss so that I could kill the second one afterward, and after farming some gear, I could complete it.

Right now I can complete it without fire resistance, but the ice dungeon is much harder, haha, the mechanics are more complicated.

[split lotus]

Try to stop attacking after the 2nd boss attacks 10 times and for the last boss click the buttons only as many times as the numbers on them say.

Resume attacking here

[random crest]

Oh yeah, I already completed the dungeon but I'm slow to click on the third boss and I always wipe lol

[split lotus]

Ahh darn.

[random crest]

At the time, I had a hard time understanding the mechanics of the second one, but thanks to you, I understood it haha

In the fire dungeon, if you kill them quickly, there's no mechanic, haha.
In ice, the last one's mechanic is there, yes or yes.

[split lotus]

Well, later you'll unlock the new redemption system and tap mechanics won't matter anymore. 🙂

I can kill the ice boss with no res or life steal on deadly

😃

[random crest]

Exchange mechanics? What is that? And what exactly does clicking affect it? Because it's better than holding down.

[random crest]

OMG you're so strong. I'm a long way from that.

[split lotus]

Tap, as in, the kind where bosses are beaten by tapping certain things or times.

Well it's broken how the new system is.

My crits are landing >600b~

[split lotus]

This was like 2 redemptions ago.

Needless to say, he ain't terrorizing anyone's depths that much.

[random crest]

300b on critical. I only get to 87b at most, haha.

[split lotus]

Fresh ascension

So my stats are a lil lower than usual.

@onyx hare more than likely blows my damage right out of the water with all the thousands of sp points.

[onyx hare]

~20hrs into a fresh redemption, still low-ish skills

Macgruber has more than I have, though, I think

[split lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/imposibiru-gif-16389009832261511254

[onyx hare]

6k sp spent, I think. I can spend another 500 atm, but can't go to 6

[exotic river]

Are these builds outdated again? why cant we use items from blackmoon keep?

[split lotus]

Because blackmoon drops have little damage/ap/etc by the time you are raiding. For the DLC this build is just the talents - I haven't listed here what gear to use. Not sure how much it matters but equipping for crit is always useful.

Wait

Crap had it mixed up with blackmoon on that last part. LOL

Fixed.

[exotic river]

oh. the items are the deadly version of those dungeons

[split lotus]

Yuh boi. Read their names. XD

Wild Deviate Smasher ≠ Deviate Smasher

[exotic river]

So maybe a dumb question here, but why use mace and also spec into the sword fan SP. doesn’t that not apply?

[exotic river]

Also why the greedy boots and not slayer boots?

[split lotus]

Yes, it does. I think I mentioned somewhere that was mutable, but eh.

Hmm

[split lotus]

Lemme find out... Idk where those drop off the top of my head rn

[exotic river]

That’s fascinating

[split lotus]

Well I mean

Those 4 points can be placed in the corresponding side

[exotic river]

True, I think the average swords fan ability looks better for raids. I mean if they apply to maces then it should be good

[split lotus]

Well no, swords fan only works with the weapons it's described with - blunt weapons are mace enjoyer. As stated the deviate smasher is still the best preraid

[exotic river]

Gotcha. I’ll respec into mace enjoyer then

[split lotus]

And I have a gear collage to edit haha. Those shoes. I did borrow that from the endgame build

Thanks. ^^

[exotic river]

All good bro. You’re the goat

I’ll send over my gear set too. Have a couple of more potential changes - not sure where they dropped if that’s feasible for people

That being said, wasnt able to beat 3/3 bosses

[split lotus]

Try clicking not holding - And on the fire raid - tap at the height of the unholy weapon (Smidge below the boss's hp bar) with 2 fingers. Then on the 2nd just tap the spiders when they come in

And yeah. The pants and blade are green skull drops.

Gloves favor dodge and AP over crit damage and multihit.

Hope that clears it up. 😃

[nocturne sleet]

why not forgotten gods chest?

[split lotus]

It's post redemption.

[nocturne sleet]

it drops from skulls

where to find post redemption build?

[split lotus]

I mean, for those who are playing rn in the halloween event yeah it's fine to use that gear, just not going to change the guide for it. But if you haven't unlocked the redemption system then the builds there won't work for you.

[round barn]

How do you unlock the redemption system? I thought you just needed to get all glory upgrades but I've had them for months now

[jaunty bolt]

#🚫spoilers-chat🚫 pinned

[split lotus]

You forgot we told you to update the game!? *poke* @jaunty bolt

[jaunty bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/king-arthur-what-i-dont-know-that-ahh-surprised-gif-13028042

[split lotus]

Well guess that makes 2 of you. Why do I remember such pointless stuff but important always fails?

[round barn]

ope thank you

[mossy shoal]

I'm curious, why is the build putting 4 points in Average Swords Fan instead of Mace Enjoyer When the recommended gear is a mace? What am I missing?

[split lotus]

Hahaha sorry, it's a common question as I had mistakenly posted the build I used after raid gear before redemption w.o legendaries. Swords gave more crit. The two are interchangable. Just use mace 4 instead.

[manic creek]

Hey, I'm currently working on the Heart of Darkness quest. Can I still get it if I've already finished Ashtar Catacombs for today?

[split lotus]

Yep.

[coral vigil]

what equipment would be best against ashtar catacomb because i'm getting rekted with my current lot even though i beat it once i not been able to beat it since

[split lotus]

5 ice and 5 fire resistance, double check your setup for negative lifesteal

You'll want atleast 8 for it rn

[coral vigil]

thank you yeah because even now the first one just destroys me and i'm like huh but i will remember that

[split lotus]

OH. The heart/seed i.e. angel or redemption boss thingy, right?

Two finger tap your character or reference this #1294318282052206613 message to tap all the adds so you survive

[coral vigil]

the 7 bosses thats of the same guy in the raid explorer the last one

its for the quest the seven or something like that

[split lotus]

Yah

[coral vigil]

if i can beat them easily every time i think i be happy with the result so atm i'm just putting money into strength and wisdom

[split lotus]

So just gotta run fire and ice for res gear

Agility > wis > str

[coral vigil]

i don't think i have many of each or if i do they same equipment as each other and both lower in alot of things from what i'm wearing

[split lotus]

Yes, even if they have low stats, just get your resistances to 5 min

It really won't matter how much less they have, the damage reduction from 5 fire is nearly 50%

[coral vigil]

as this is what i'm wearing atm

[split lotus]

Negative lifesteal

Change the book

[coral vigil]

yeah i have a tricket that gives lifesteal but it reduces my total attack power by 90%

i can change it to a fire res book

[split lotus]

Lemme c the stats page

Plox

[split lotus]

Yeah you need ice and fire gear

[coral vigil]

i just changed book and chest and these are my new ones

[split lotus]

Try it now. You should wim

[coral vigil]

i wish there was more lifesteal stuff

[split lotus]

12 seems to be the most w.o a huge damage loss

(Blackmoon's special's give 2)

[coral vigil]

it worked thank you very much i just beat all 7

[split lotus]

🥳