#mcguire log review

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cobalt axle
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opened a thread, will come back to you later or tomorrow

lyric flower
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Thank you friend

cobalt axle
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from a gear standpoint, i am not sure i would use wasteland over pe

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rotational

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you should start with strike or storm, flag-finish-cooldowns
you can use cache after flag/tornado to not waste too much of it

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but cache use will depend on the weapon rotation

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you should use dance chrges, there is no reason to not follow up with a 2nd one

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i didn't look into the target count/mobs but if you chain pulled you probably wouldn't delay symbols for 10 secs

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flag use seems weird, you should align it with symbols/tornado

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the base concept is to line up dance to symbols

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also to never start dance with high on low target counts

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also to not refresh rupture in dance

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basically you could just use rupture, then symbols-dance here and would be better off

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rupture in dance again, it is rly something you should avoid

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you did send this dance into nothing, try to not spend dance if the last mob is super low

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the entire concept of cooldown alignment is also not used here

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this is something people should know by now

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you don't use flag in shadow dance

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single target use is fairly simple

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you should use a macro for dance + strike, to avoid this

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same again with symbols, it was uses fairly inefficient

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same here

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or here

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or here

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basically you rly need to learn how to play the spec on single target

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there are too many mistakes that are easy to avoid

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but also in aoe, you need to manage your cooldowns

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so basically:

  • learn how the single target rotation works

-- very short baseline:
-- #1 you align your cooldowns to symbols of death
-- #2 you always use at least one dance charge during symbols, else use dance charges during flag or if about to cap
-- #3 flagallation!!! line it up with symbols so that you get flag-finish-cooldowns(tornado, symbols, etc)
-- #4 shuriken tornado is also used in single target
-- #5 slice and dice is something you keep up on lower target counts, also rupture (only on up to 3 targets) esp. on a target you want to kill faster in a pull

  • work on your cooldown managemen!

-- Shadow Dance is a cooldown you can agressively use in aoe, but needs to be managed propper in single target
--- Using shadow dance when adds are about to die, you need to run away from the mob or similar that would case bigger downtime is not good and should be avoided
--- Using Backstab as first gcd of dance should not be the case, and i would recommend a macro
-- flagallation, it is essential that you generate high stack counts, this is done by aligning other cooldowns to it and using it when you have high combo points. the usual sequence should be flag-finish-tornado-cooldowns(symbols, dance,...)

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mistakes like this are super common in your log, and this shouldn't happen at all

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also the complete loss of most of your dance

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for uptime, pls use your movement cooldowns, try to use sprint/step/vanish-strike to stay on targets

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you can also use cloak to avoid certian mechanics or similar, but its important to know what works and what does not for that

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but it is very important to understand that losing 4-6 seconds of your shadow dance is not good and will lead to less shadow dance charges and less output

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it is very punishing because you not only lose some combo points
You lose out on casts of shadow strike and Finishing moves.
This means you have a lower amount of 2p and 4p procs on top of the lost cdr

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alright, i think that was fairly in detail already, if you have further questions, pls just ask

lyric flower
cobalt axle
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soulbinds, you did use this one.
I think Planed execution is potentially better

lyric flower
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Found it

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Took me a while to investigate haha

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Thanks

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Youve gone in really deep on this, i appreciate it

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I find myself energy starved a lot toward the end of pulls, which is why dance/symbols sometimes get cast into nothing, just so i can keep going and not just be auto attacking

cobalt axle
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if you pull into a new pack soon, it is better to not fire symbols

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it is in the end a damage amp too and guarantees your next builder to critical strike

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what means if you storm on your next pack, every target you hit with storm will get find weakness applied

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(because storm applies find weakness on a critical strike, and it will 100% critical strike due to symbols)

lyric flower
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"--- Using Backstab as first gcd of dance should not be the case, and i would recommend a macro"

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Can you explain this pls

cobalt axle
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there is a delay when switching stance

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basically if you use shadow dance or stealth or similar the game will still think you are outside of stealth

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so if you use shadow strike and backstab on the same keybind, it will still send backstab instead of shadow strike

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it is only a small delay, so if you press your keys not very fast, you don't run into that issue

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there are many solutions to the problem, the easiest is to just macro strike to shadow dance

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ofc you still would need a 2nd dance macro to use it without strike

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or you could use something like:
/cast [bonusbar:1]Shadowstrike; Shadow dance
this would mean you don't have to use 2 key binds, but press the key 2 times to send strike

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a 3rd option is to just have both on seperate binds

lyric flower
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So for ST, I should prio getting rupture and SnD outside of dance

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Get back to 6 combo points

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and then flag, symbols, dance

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and just farm out the combo points to get the throughput into flag

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and then its just farming eviscerates