#zempai log analysis

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last lodge
vagrant raft
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But here's an example where you did 250k less f.ex

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Like you used a shuriken toss

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So I assume you were out of range of boss

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But in this case you didn't use your trinket to get any damage (cache) from what I see

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You did so many more backstabs than him

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Less dance uptime

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He saved his shadow blades, you didn't

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You lost 12% uptime on SnD

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Maybe this is a bad pull example

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5 shuriken toss?

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Are you sure 1:30-3:30 is the part you want analyzed @restive ginkgo

restive ginkgo
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1:30 is the time he starts walking iirc

vagrant raft
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What's causing you to have so much worse uptime on the boss

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He gets crushing prism too

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this log is also shuriken toss

last lodge
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i only quick looked at one of the longer pulls

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(thats one of the ER buffs)

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possible that you missed quite some in the heat of the fight

vagrant raft
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He saves Shadow blades for every section as well

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He gets more dances

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As fuu says it seems you hit less of your ER cps

restive ginkgo
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You mean not using SB while walking?

vagrant raft
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No he uses it then

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While you don't

last lodge
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i am also unsure here

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its a minor thing for sure

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but with snd up you usually get a cp proc every ~2 secs

vagrant raft
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in this log, he wasted 31cp's, you wasted 39

last lodge
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so it rarely happens to have 3 strikes in a row

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is the pull i look at

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also (again a minor thing)

vagrant raft
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But something is wrong with your backstabs. He has 14bs vs 28 of yours in this log

last lodge
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you would evi before dance here

vagrant raft
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his 54 strikes vs 44 of yours

last lodge
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it just points to more dance uptime

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also a minor thing, i think you could have waited for symbols to come up here

vagrant raft
last lodge
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it is just a assumption as i didn't look into dance charges, but given the backstab after the mandetory one to consume PV it did not seem like you did overcap on charges

vagrant raft
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I think shadow blade uptime coupled with wasted cp due to overcap coupled with worse ER management is the main culprit.
Also some things like SnD downtime etc

last lodge
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shb uptime can be procs too

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2nd time i see dance in evi

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by doing that you kind of lose strike casts

vagrant raft
last lodge
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ah fair

vagrant raft
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And you're losing uptime on the boss for some reason. Every attempt is you shuriken tossing

restive ginkgo
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There is nothing to hold really, SB is mostly ready shortly after walk start

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good Info so far, i will look into it tonight, keep minor things coming anytime

vagrant raft
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I feel you might enter dance on low energy?

last lodge
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this is the same as above

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unless you need to dance before symbols comes up, if you are barely on one charge you can just line it up

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as you get more dance into symbols

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to be entiely transparent, its a minor optimization so even if you use dance on cd (what the apl did initially more or less, but shouldn't do now after a apl change i did after 9.2 launch) it is not that much of a output diffrence

vagrant raft
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Here's the dps graph too

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You dip down to 0 dps 3 times during the transition

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Not having uptime as a melee is like not casting as a ranged

last lodge
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i also saw 1-2 times a lost gcd in dance and 1 time a dance into downtime (tho i assume not on purpose)

restive ginkgo
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I do stress too much yeah

restive ginkgo
vagrant raft
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Time for lunch.
But check out Fuu's suggestions. As for my suggestions, don't lose uptime. Plan your fights. Dont lose gcd because energy starvation. Practice ER. You don't need to send SD on CD even as kyrian, as it will move those SD's outside your damage window

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Well, the other rogue wasn't impacted by that though

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And it's a large difference spending a few seconds doing 0 damage

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Because a holy paladin wants to smack some crab ass

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Time for lunch though

restive ginkgo
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My performance got terrible over the evening because it stressed me tf out pinpointing/fixing the issue between pulls 😂

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I should spend time entering dance at like what? At least 80nrg again and only if I would cap on 2nd dance

last lodge
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you don't rly need to pool a lot atm

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shadow focus + mos usually have you covered

restive ginkgo
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Im also never sure about autoattcking to hit a ER combopoint

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Like ER2

last lodge
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i think i would go with how push thinks it would be good to play

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to evi-wait for sht proc-backstab-finish

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but in general, it is not worth to wait for a sht proc unless it is very soon and you wouldn't overcap

restive ginkgo
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Yeah its awkward for sure

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Sometimes you SS and try to hit ER3 but the Next sht gets you to 4. And then ER runs out, thats how I lose them mostly

restive ginkgo
vagrant raft
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Feels like a huge dodge if it makes you cap enough energy for that to be worth, sometimes you even toss with full cp. Maybe it catches you by surprise? It feels like a very large movement for something that doesn't require a lot of movement

restive ginkgo
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I def can optimize on finding a "better" position/move path for uptime

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Wasnt happy at all

vagrant raft
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One thing, back when I was seriously raiding, was I used to stream/record. When I went through my logs to find faults and stuff, I would check the same part of the recording to put it all in perspective.

Tbh, if one just looks at a recording of oneself one always finds weird decisions

last lodge
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a range weakaura that pops up when you are not in melee is also not bad

vagrant raft
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That is probably my biggest gripe with WoW, and something that has been a source of annoyance forever. Why is it not that we have visualization of when we are in range? Why does the boss have a huge circle around itself, when that circle really does nothing to indicate the actual hitbox

last lodge
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thats a bit offtopic, but i think the visual noice for melees is rly high

restive ginkgo
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not really sure how to fix this, funny enough my mate literally says he struggles to hit ER aswell and just fires cooldowns as they come

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Ill just Start to force more uptime and Stop stressing dances for now

restive ginkgo
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its going alot better

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thanks for making it obv