#unfluffypanda log analysis
nocturne sedge
i need to do keys with guild right now, i can go over the log probably later but more likely tomorrow
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No worries, I appreciate it.
if you're up for voice chat at all let me know. i'm grateful for your time
nocturne sedge
you might want to play akaaris as kyrian
your rupture uptime is okay-ish, could be slightly higher
slice and dice uptime is nice 👍
i think your er buffs did run out there
same here with another of the er buffs
in general, you should be able to hit most if not all anima charged combo points, might be worth to pay a bit more attention to them
you are fairly slow here, likely comes from learning the opener
also you did start with dance
strike-snd-symbols+blades+er-dance-rupture
dance here was used to agressively
should have used it with symbols later
also symbols is 3 sec late there and could have been used earlier
no rupture cast in dance
also last gcd is backstab
what should have been a shadowstrike
same thing again
you did not consider symbols when using dance
you did stop using a ability for a sec here, so lost a gcd
rupture should have been before dance
again symbols/dance not aligned
unsure what happened here
but 3x strike is bad
you finish after 2
and then rest of dance you backstabbed?
again symbols without dance
lost gcds
er in dance, also again not very good use of your gcds
basically you need to work on your shadoow dance usage
you often use it and lose a lot of its benefits
and this leads to your relatively low dance uptime
also play around your anima charged cp
and avoid mistakes with symbols/dance alignment
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you might want to play akaaris as kyrian
100% I messed up my leggo. I have it, just spaced.
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i think your er buffs did run out there
er?
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your rupture uptime is okay-ish, could be slightly higher
should it be closer to 99? I see 95.
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in general, you should be able to hit most if not all anima charged combo points...
i definitely think I struggle with being at 3 and it feels like as I press eviscerate waiting for GCD I get 2 more points. sounds like I need to wait a second or so after GCD ends?
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you are fairly slow here, likely comes from learning the opener
thats why i was asking about macros. As far as I'm currently doing, I open with SS that's macro'd to dance, immediately SND, blades, symbols, er, rupture, ss-evis, ss-evis, ss-evis, etc with a backstab inbetween dances to use the PV stacks.
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should have used it with symbols later
I saw the count on the guides. maybe I'm overcomplicating/fearing holding for too long.
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you did stop using a ability for a sec here, so lost a gcd
I think this may have been me waiting for a Combo pooint from the 50%/soon/trigger.
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you finish after 2
finish after 2? What if I only get 4 cp?
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no rupture cast in dance
so just let rupture drop if I'm in a dance and refresh when dance is over?
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also play around your anima charged cp
I struggle with the 2 and 4 pt cp's the most.
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and avoid mistakes with symbols/dance alignment
I'll read the guide on this again. Always paranoid of sitting at 2 dances waiting for symbols.
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I should probably take ss and dance off macro
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realized that after I typed it ha
nocturne sedge
should it be closer to 99? I see 95.
yes, ideal is 98%+
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just had this: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FzgjYmdHRJTAwMrK
other rogues equally/lesser geared were consistently ~3-4k above me.
I thought I was seeing timelines looks similar enough as well.
nocturne sedge
i definitely think I struggle with being at 3 and it feels like as I press evisc...
you rarely wait, you usually only wait if your sht proc comes very soon and your energy level is low
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is there a way to know very soon? seems inconsistent.
Makes me do a lot of 3cp evics
Similar uptimes, 4 more evis, god I did 11 more backstabs..
nocturne sedge
thats why i was asking about macros. As far as I'm currently doing, I open with ...
if you use macros, and are fine with small mistakes due to less efficient play thats good.
if its just lazyness, i don't think its good to use macros just because its more comfort when it makes you play less efficient
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I dont feel lazy about it. Just seemed what others were doing.
I'm struggling to see the why this person did 3-4k more than me with our casts being close.
similar uptimes on buffs/casts
nocturne sedge
I saw the count on the guides. maybe I'm overcomplicating/fearing holding for to...
you never wait during dance, you want to use your abilities
if you wait for a gcd you basically lose a ability cast
nocturne sedge
finish after 2? What if I only get 4 cp?
sht should proc around every 2 sec if you have snd up, if you are at 4 its likely that you didn't refresh snd 😉
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I kinda want to rework my keybinds. SG for symbols, SF for blades, SX for er, SR for dance.
sht?
nocturne sedge
so just let rupture drop if I'm in a dance and refresh when dance is over?
rupture is refreshed after/before dance or in preperation of symbols
nocturne sedge
I struggle with the 2 and 4 pt cp's the most.
thats normyl, the 2 is the hardest one to hit
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if symbols CD is 15 seconds or lest, I wait for dance yea? and vice versa?
I don't just use both dance CD's off the rip?
nocturne sedge
I'll read the guide on this again. Always paranoid of sitting at 2 dances waitin...
there isn't to much of a "read guide" here.
It is rly about not using a dance if you barely have 1 charge and symbols comes up soon.
You want to align it with dance in this case
no
you never wait with symbols
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so symbols on cd but make sure I have a dance when I do?
nocturne sedge
its not a cd you hold, unless you play venthyr
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if venth I assume only save for/after flag build?
nocturne sedge
and for venthyr only if you want to align flag
basically, you want to use dance every symbols
if you can't because you burned your last dance just before symbols comes up, thats bad
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I'm hoping into a channel/streaming if you have any interest, if you're busy no worries in any capacity.
I feel like I've gone from 6/7k to 8/9k, just missing that last bit
is there a way to END combat on a dummy rather than details just ticking down?
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that confused me. Reset details to me means clearing that data?
nocturne sedge
just looking quick at one pull of the ones
you use backstab a lot more
your rupture uptime was better tho
slice and dice you had some downtime
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is there a good weak aura for managing symbols and dance timing?
nocturne sedge
your shadow dance uptime was rly bad
thats why
you basically didn't dance enough
he had the normal uptime of 55%+
your dance uptime was 40%
and this with a lot of more tier set 2p procs
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but I need to make sure I have dance for symbols yea?
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not trying to be dense/misunderstand. sorry.
nocturne sedge
basically you want to use dance as much as possible
ONLY if symbols comes up soon
you are concerned with not using dance
also just looking at your log
what happened here
how are 3 backstabs in dance
nocturne sedge
you basically had rly bad damage in the log i look at
this one
because you missunderstood/missinterpreted how to play dance
use the shit on cooldown
BUT
if symbols comes up in 8 secs
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it seems like dance should be up a ton with the cd's yea,
nocturne sedge
and you have only 1 stack and a lot of cd left on dance
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I was just on a dummy and seemed to hit the 12k I sim for "easily"
nocturne sedge
e.g. your dance still needs 55 secs to get 2nd charge
you just hold your dance for symbols
else just fire and forget
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is there a way to track/keep in front of mind the CPs that lower that cd?
nocturne sedge
kyrian generates a lot of dance charges
you basically can dance
if your cooldown is not super low on the 2nd charge
if you do it one time to agressive 
you learn with experience
it is just that not having dance with symbols like here
what was from the log from yesterday
is not great
but pls don't be afraid to use dance
you just overcap in the log on charges
and you never ever want that
your first symbols cycle in the opener has 1 dance use
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yea i definitely still struggle with the overcap/missing the er points
nocturne sedge
when you should probably just used 3
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used 3?
nocturne sedge
shadow dance 3 times
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gotcha
nocturne sedge
2 times at minimum, but given that you have shb up likely even 3
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do you know if there's a way to make details stop recording?
Digging through it's settings and I'm on effective time. Seems like that's more accurate than activity time
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I know i did bad but was able to do 12.4 on dummy
57 bs vs 155 ss
97% dd uptime, 55% shadow dance, 32% symbols
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my rupture and snd were both iffy though
84% rupture, 95% snd
so I guess I'm just struggling moving and managing.
nocturne sedge
its okay to not have perfect rupture uptime
rupture overal does little to your damage compared to other systems
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97% dd uptime seems unreasonable
nocturne sedge
having 90% is okay, having 98% is nice
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rupture is only refresh outside of dance vs snd always refresh right?
nocturne sedge
only outside of dance
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for both or just rupture?
nocturne sedge
snd you can refresh during dance too
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so far what I'm trying to do is... only refresh snd as needed during dance, otherwise spam ss+evis. If dance has 3+ seconds left and I have 6 pv I backstab. Seems to line up decently is dance wears off, 6 pv backstab, rupture, dance again into symbols evis+ss spam
blade and reprimand are on CD use ya?
also do you stream or anything? I want to give you something for your time.
nocturne sedge
If dance has 3+ seconds left and I have 6 pv I backstab.
^ you forget shadow blades
only if shadow blades is up
blades you can pmuch use on cd ye
i don't stream rly, i did for fun and giggles in 9.1 or so once but my stream setup isn't rly great ^^
(basically i can't stream gameplay because my hardware would be to weak, but i also wouldn't rly be interessting to watch because i neither do super high m+ keys nor top world ranks of raiding)
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I thought I was able to wowlog report dummy testing but I guess not. I must've changed a setting somewhere.
nocturne sedge
in the end it rly just comes down to getting comfortable with the rotation
your mindset should be "how can i maximize my dance use"
while considering other factors like pv or symbols
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is there a golden number or wa or anything to manage the CD rate of dance?
nocturne sedge
as mentioned above, you can most of the time fire and forget
just don't if you are closer to symbols