arigold log analysis | Ravenholdt | Page 1

molten creek Apr 7, 2022, 7:01 PM

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lusty sentinel Apr 7, 2022, 7:03 PM

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so just FYI I have a macro as there'd be too many keys for me 😛

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(ignoring my missing ench, just got the loot recently)

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I see wow analyzer's tip on wasting like 20% of shaodw tech combos but its something for me to react better to i think

molten creek Apr 7, 2022, 7:13 PM

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atm in raid, can take a loot tomorrow

molten creek Apr 8, 2022, 6:26 AM

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oh wow, you rly should try to get some daggers

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226 is rly low, there are some rare mobs that drop 246 and m+ drops also better ones

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you forgot to enchant chest and back (even tho back is not a dps enchant)

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one think straight up, the fight was ideal for sigil (5 min 30)

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yet you only used it 1 time

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the opener, is not that great

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for several reasons

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#1 you don't want to delay your shadow dance

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so you would strike-snd-dance

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after that you would build to 5+ and flag-finish

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using a backstab just after flag-finish means you have a harder time getting to high flag stacks

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okay, this is very important

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there is a reason this is rly bad

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and this is the reason

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as venthyr your main cooldown is flag and you want to get as much value out of it

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this is why you play flag-finish-cooldowns

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in the case above you used symbols-dance before flag came up and then ended up in wasting multiple globals during the stack building on using backstab

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this is bad because backstab generates less combo points

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you lost globals in this dance

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also did this

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instead of dancing after backstab

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flag use

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like overall the log is mostly good

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but the core element of the covenant you play was played very poorly

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there are mistakes like this:

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when you did a 3rd strike when you have 5+ cp secure after 2 strikes

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or some times you lose one gcd during dance due to probably movement you didn't expect

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there is also rupture during dance that you shouldn't do

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all of this is minor in impact but still important to fix

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BUT the major impact comes from playing venthyr incorrect

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*the venthyr covenant ability

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it is fairly simple

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you basically (with exception of the opener) just follow the above sequence all the time

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if you plan well you can align 2 dance charges to flag ofc without overcapping on charges

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getting flag cdr and high stacks will increase your dps quite a bit

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also worth mentioning is that kyrian probably becomes overall better on single target, so might be worth considering

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also to emphasize this again, not using a 5 minute trinket a 2nd time was very wastefull if you have a fight timer that is perfect for it

lusty sentinel Apr 8, 2022, 8:31 AM

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I can't thank you enough @molten creek I'm going to re-read it all agian and take some notes much appreciated! So much to learn 👏

molten creek Apr 8, 2022, 8:31 AM

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good luck, in your next run

lusty sentinel Apr 8, 2022, 9:57 AM

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molten creek also did this

Actually 1 point here, I think i backstabbed (or at least I do) when i reach 6 PV stacks. I know this instance I could have done it before SD but if im at 6 in the middle should i not just backstab with 6PV?

molten creek Apr 8, 2022, 9:58 AM

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you backstab and then dance

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you don't rly want to backstab during dance

lusty sentinel Apr 8, 2022, 9:59 AM

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ok then no scenario when i want to not overcap on PV stacks

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since i should be able to backstab between SDs

molten creek Apr 8, 2022, 10:01 AM

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what

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noo

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PV you can overcap

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its not a big deal

lusty sentinel Apr 8, 2022, 10:01 AM

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yes that's what i meant, worded it badly 🙂

molten creek Apr 8, 2022, 10:02 AM

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the only time you care about PV is when you are mid dance and have shb up while on 5+ stacks

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or before going into dance to not waste the stacks entirely

lusty sentinel Apr 8, 2022, 10:02 AM

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gotcha thanks

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i was missing the "mid-dance + shb + 5 stack" in my logic

molten creek Apr 8, 2022, 10:06 AM

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its a very min/max thing

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even a lot of the players in the top end don't do it

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