phyrexican log analysis

[shadow scaffold]

twitch vod (just mute the german comms )
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1441332093?t=2h32m26s

[ripe berry]

immo am kochen, kann später mal reinschaun 😉

[shadow scaffold]

would definitly appreciate some input on shadow techniques & kyrian cp. i feel like im trying to hit kyrian cp without acknowledging shadow techniques procs way too much, only to get a shadow techniques cp, finishing on low cp and not hitting the kyrian anyway. i might also be backstabbing too much trying to hit kyrian cp

[ripe berry]

you probably did miss 2 times the (i assume the 2 cp) anima charged finisher

if you struggle with the 2 one, you usually hit it outside of dance

you can track sht and slightly delay your next combo builder to get the cp proc

just don't overcap on energy doing so or wait for a extended amount of time

[shadow scaffold]

alright, so what im getting is its fine to delay a global a bit to get a shadow techniques proc to hit the kyrian cp?

[ripe berry]

in terms of gameplay, snd and rupture uptime looks good

[ripe berry]

its fine to delay it a bit, maybe not too long but for like half a second is totally fine

for your opener, we just discussed that in #subtlety

doing finisher on 4 isn't better than 5+

and i am almost certain the finishers here are not all on 5+ or the 4 anima charged cp

(could be wrong tho)

after the first dance you did bs what is correct, but you rly don't need to delay your 2nd dance this long

[shadow scaffold]

thats almost certainly true, i tend to finish early assuming i get a shadow techniques proc to hit the 5cp kyrian. will pay more attention to that

[ripe berry]

your 2nd dance only had 7 globals

you could have immidiatly symbols + dance here instead of bs-evi-dance

a marginal delay of symbols won't matter usually, but its good practice to use it asap if possible

after the 3rd dance you forgot about PB

*PV

there def. should have been a backstab between dances here^^

also again only 7 globals in dance

this is in generl a repeating issue

try to install trufigcd

or mystlers gcd weakaura from wagi

*wago

or the details thing that shows casts

[shadow scaffold]

huh, that seems like a pretty big mistake. will fix that for sure

[ripe berry]

and troubleshoot if you are able to hit 8 globals consistently

one thing that should help you a lot too could be to macro dance + symbols

as it would give you more time to use abilities after

[shadow scaffold]

installed trufigcd (which is visible in the vod) above my chat overlay and below the raid frames

[ripe berry]

haha, i haven't looked at that

[shadow scaffold]

thats pretty controversial from what i understand so i refrained from doing so until now. will try it though

[ripe berry]

about symbols, you had quite some delay here

oh fuck

i mean dance + strike macro

not dance + symbols

allow me to correct that ^^

[shadow scaffold]

okay 😄

[ripe berry]

its just logical

you have 8 seconds to hit 8 spells each spell has a 1 sec gcd

[shadow scaffold]

yeah will definitly do that

[ripe berry]

if you hit them back to back you have ~900 ms left at the end

if you don't however you can lose time between casts

and if e.g. you already have your first cast delayed by 300 ms

you just need to have the same delay once or twice after

and suddenly can't fit all 8

also, if you toyed around with spell queue, it should be above 200 to work well, so if you read somewhere that you need to put it on your ping or similar

pls don't

[shadow scaffold]

it most likely is an input issue on my end, might change some keybinds as well. been noticing that it takes me some time to actually press buttons in quick succession

[ripe berry]

this is a mistake easy avoidable by looking at boss timers, but i don't think there is much to say about it ^^

i have 1 as builder and 3-5 as finisher

this means i don't need to build/finish with the same finger

this is a very common mistake

people rly love to dance on cd

[shadow scaffold]

yeah, lets just say that didnt happen

[ripe berry]

but if your symbols comes up in 8 secs

and you don't have high dance stacks

just wait

and use it with dance

you want the jucy 15% damage from symbols

also 4 cp finisher again i assume

[shadow scaffold]

yeah, been getting in a bad habit of just pressing dance whenever i feel like it because you get so many dances with kyrian & 4pc anyway

[ripe berry]

just to re-iterate on it

this is what you ended up doing with your symbols window

its very obviouse if you look at it from my perspective tho, a fight is often hectic and its easy to forget about that

[shadow scaffold]

definitly, but thats exactly what im looking for, thank you very much

[ripe berry]

the rest of the fights are mostly repeat issues i already mentioned

[shadow scaffold]

one more thing about that macro. do you play m+ at all? seems awkward to always shadowstrike when you dance. or do you use a separate keybind for the dance+strike macro?

[ripe berry]

i do

but i have 2 binds for dance

one with strike one without

[shadow scaffold]

alright, thought so 😄 thanks

[misty willow]

we need more german from you

[ripe berry]

i did a entire log analysis in german a while ago

https://discord.com/channels/124169701881282560/952312165048676352

[misty willow]

ravenholdt ist nun eigentum der bundesrepublik deutschland

[ripe berry]

i am not from germany, so no^^

[misty willow]

sadge

[shadow scaffold]

got another question so ill just put it in here as well:
when im not in shadow dance do i press backstab as much as i can or do i just look to not overcap energy/cp (from shadow techniques) and hold on for my next dance?

[ripe berry]

you want to keep your energy levels rather low