kinzu log analysis | Ravenholdt | Page 1

grizzled sun Mar 19, 2022, 10:22 AM

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violet saffron Mar 19, 2022, 10:43 AM

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First you open out of stealth then look up in the sub rouge channel !deathly prepull to have SnD (Zerheckseln) up before the fight starts. 2nd practice your opener on a target Dummy. Watch any !guide in the sub rouge channel. Especially as venthyr is a good opener vital to have a easier use of flagelation. Meaning you always want to align flagelation with symbols and then dance. I'll look at some of the exact misplays later or someone else will write them.

dry carbon Mar 19, 2022, 1:07 PM

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You should always use flagellation when you're at high combo points, makes it easier to reach 30 stacks. You should use dance after using flagellation so you're able to cast 1 more generator/spender in SD window. Another thing you might try is symbols + dance minmaxing since dance lasts only 8s and symbols last for 10s (what i mean is when you're close to 2 stacks and symbols are coming up in let's say 5 seconds you can pop them at the last 2 casts of 1st dance and go into 2nd dance right after the 1st one ends)

grizzled sun Mar 19, 2022, 1:10 PM

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not directly related to the log, but i love how you use the dagger set:

dry carbon Mar 19, 2022, 1:11 PM

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Also kyrian is much better, more fun and more forgiving for single target fights so you might try it out ^^

grizzled sun Mar 19, 2022, 1:13 PM

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mapko did mention the opener was not played correctly, you can look at the opener as it is in the #subtlety-faq

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the concept of the spec is reguardless of covenant to align dance to symbols

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this means you should have used dance after symbols and not before it comes up

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flag should be always synced with your cooldowns, including symbols like stated in the #subtlety-faq

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this was how you used it

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this would be perfectly fine

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however there is no reason to backstab between dances if you don't run pv

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also i am fairly certain you did not finish on 5+ here

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you rly should use flag-finish-cooldowns

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this is when flag ended, you only finish on 4+ when creating stacks

chilly crest Mar 19, 2022, 1:19 PM

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Ye im aware that kyrian is better for st but at the time i didnt have the kyr lego so venthyr simmed better but ye thanks for all the advice

grizzled sun Mar 19, 2022, 1:20 PM

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you only used 7 globals in this dance

chilly crest Mar 19, 2022, 1:20 PM

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You're helping me out alot appreciated

grizzled sun Mar 19, 2022, 1:20 PM

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chilly crest Ye im aware that kyrian is better for st but at the time i didnt have the kyr le...

it is fine to play venthyr

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kyian will later on be further ahead, but without sylvanas dagger or 4p it isn't that big of a diffrence

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blades with symbols

chilly crest Mar 19, 2022, 1:22 PM

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grizzled sun not directly related to the log, but i love how you use the dagger set:

Ikr too Bad that they arent good

grizzled sun Mar 19, 2022, 1:22 PM

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i did sim the set too when i got it

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but its rly bad

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so small summary:

only finish on 4+ during flag stack building
adjust your flag usage to the above mentioned from the faq
try to be a bit more aware of when you use dance esp. if you use your last charge and symbols comes up soon

chilly crest Mar 19, 2022, 1:25 PM

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So finishing on 4cp outside of flag is fine? Im Always in fear of Overstacking cp due to Shadow technique especially while Shadow blades ist active so im finishing on 4 alot

grizzled sun Mar 19, 2022, 1:25 PM

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no

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finishing on 4 is only good if you have 4 targets

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or if you build flag stacks

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you else don't want to finish on 4

chilly crest Mar 19, 2022, 1:26 PM

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Okay gotchu tysm for your time

grizzled sun Mar 19, 2022, 1:27 PM

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if you finish on 4 one time during the fight its no big issue

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but it can easy become a bad habbit

chilly crest Mar 19, 2022, 1:29 PM

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Ye i also tested it abit and noticed im dealing so much more dmg if i just overcap cp but It felt so wrong lmao

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