Bunny log review | Ravenholdt | Page 1

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:04 AM

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Lemme take a look real quick

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:04 AM

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❤️

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:04 AM

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It’s a little late for me so I can’t go full in depth on my phone

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But the big stuff shouldn’t be bad

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:05 AM

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no worries, I appreciate every help

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:07 AM

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So this looks a little suspicious

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There’s a big gap in symbols from pull to 1 min

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And then it sorta gets on track again, until another gap at 3 min

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There’s also these sort of wide open spaces with a lot of downtime

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Lihuvim usually has a lot of uptime so I’m not sure where that’s coming from

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:11 AM

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We were told to hold cd to burn the add in it's construction phase. That might be why I delayed symbols.. but yeah looks not so good

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:12 AM

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I also saw this

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The symbols cast there is pretty much wasted for 3 seconds

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:12 AM

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I see

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:12 AM

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But on top of that, you cast dance at high cp and instantly used a rupture

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You can think of dance as an enabler for shadowstrike

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So you want to always dance on low cp

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So get as many in as possible

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:13 AM

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nice, thank you

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so rapture does not get buffed by the 15%

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:14 AM

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Also just as a reminder, I see you rupturing the add

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Depending on how fast the add dies, that’s not worth it. Rupture has to last the full duration to be worth casting

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:15 AM

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reef pagoda so rapture does not get buffed by the 15%

It does get buffed by the 15%, but it’s dynamic

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:15 AM

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ohhh

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:15 AM

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There’s no snapshotting with the buffs

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So if you have rupture up before, it’ll still get buffed

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:16 AM

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I was playing cat ... have much unlearning to do

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🙈

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:16 AM

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There’s another example with the wasted uptime on symbols

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You don’t really want to use it on backstabs and slice

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About half of that symbols is basically wasted until you get into dance

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:17 AM

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ok

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:17 AM

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It’s not all bad though!

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This is fantastic

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Dumping combo points into maintenance, then using dance + symbols afterwards

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We love to see that

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:18 AM

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do I want to cast slice & dice during symbols / dance?

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:19 AM

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No

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:19 AM

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I understand it's better to refresh beforehand

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:19 AM

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If it drops you would want to refresh it

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But it’s a fairly long buff

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So you can avoid it

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:19 AM

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ok 🙂

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:19 AM

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I would also be careful with something like this

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You’re dancing so close to the rupture that it leads to a missed gcd in dance

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Because you’re using the rupture gcd to cast the dance

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:20 AM

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ahhh

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:21 AM

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Something like this for example, not sure if it’s downtime, but you only got 5/8 gcds into your dance

hot pine Mar 14, 2022, 9:21 AM

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You get a total of 0.999..s "leeway" in dance. Naturally there will be a little more than 1 second between each of your abilities.
If you use Dance like you did there, you're removing a lot of that leeway, making it harder for yourself for no benefit.

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:22 AM

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Sub is a spec that kind of thrives off of its own momentum, the moment you desync cooldowns and have sloppy dance or two it’s easy for the spec to sort of collapse on itself

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It’s basically just a motor you gotta keep running

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:22 AM

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I get that.. feels super punishing to misplay or to go into forced downtime

storm citrus Mar 14, 2022, 9:23 AM

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you can usually plan around it, so it isn't that problematic

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:23 AM

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Something like this is also fairly common from what I’m seeing

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Goes back to the whole “dance is for strikes/replacing backstabs”

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You don’t want to use kyrian ability during a dance

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Would be better used after or before the dance to replace a backstab

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Looking at your uptimes they could be a little better

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I think a lot of the rupture uptime stuff is weird because of the snapshotting you were thinking about

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But slice should definitely be higher

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:25 AM

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low ledge Would be better used after or before the dance to replace a backstab

https://i.imgur.com/JDRhukC.png

Imgur

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:25 AM

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Try to play around the pandemic timers a little more

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:26 AM

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reef pagoda https://i.imgur.com/JDRhukC.png

Exactly

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:26 AM

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ok

storm citrus Mar 14, 2022, 9:26 AM

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but you would not want to start your dance with rupture in that sequence

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:26 AM

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Yeah

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Like we discussed before

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:26 AM

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mhm

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:26 AM

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You would want to rupture

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Then dance

storm citrus Mar 14, 2022, 9:27 AM

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^ neither start dance with high combo points

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:27 AM

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Yep yep

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Otherwise though it looks pretty good

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Keep working on your gear obviously

storm citrus Mar 14, 2022, 9:27 AM

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also something about snd, you rly want to have it up at all time, it is a very powerful thing even if its not obviouse

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:29 AM

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snd? 😅

storm citrus Mar 14, 2022, 9:29 AM

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slice and dice

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:29 AM

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But in general:

Focus on minimizing downtime, 2 charges of shadowstep and sprint do wonders
Play around pandemics a little more for snd/rupture, remember that snapshotting isn’t a thing so you can be a little more fluid with rupture
Fix the dance windows (start on low cp, don’t rupture during it, don’t kyrian in a dance, make sure to get your 8 gcds, make sure you’re not starting the dance off with a missed gcd)
Time your dances better with your symbols so you don’t have wasted time during the buff backstabbing for example

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:29 AM

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oh ja

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Thank you guys so much!!

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:30 AM

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My pleasure whispyrheart

hot pine Mar 14, 2022, 9:31 AM

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When you plan out sub ahead of time. Making sure maintenance is up during non-dance, making sure you sync your cd's, having the same tactic for each of your bursts the spec will start to feel a lot more complete, less hectic and make a lot more sense

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:33 AM

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One last question ... how bricked am I for not having sylv dagger? I read everywhere that even normal dagger in offhand is better ...

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will It mellow out later on?

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:34 AM

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It’s like 2-3% over a normal offhand

hot pine Mar 14, 2022, 9:34 AM

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It gets less and less noticeable with more gear. It is not something that would be the difference between killing a boss or not. But if you have the option then it is preferable, especially on ST

low ledge Mar 14, 2022, 9:35 AM

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It’s definitely worse but it’s not “bricked”

reef pagoda Mar 14, 2022, 9:35 AM

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ok, I'll see if I can get my guild to reclear her a few times and hope for the best

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❤️ Thank you guys again

tulip garnet Mar 14, 2022, 1:25 PM

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If i would like to compare different gear that i got in the bag to choose where i shoudl spend valor what is the best way? gear compare seems bugged

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Maybe i can put itemid in the simc

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but how can i find it

storm citrus Mar 14, 2022, 1:31 PM

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you have a option for that on wowhead if you go to the specific page of the item

tulip garnet Mar 14, 2022, 1:59 PM

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Where?

storm citrus Mar 14, 2022, 2:04 PM

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e.g. on https://www.wowhead.com/item=189854/rygelons-heraldric-ring?bonus=6805

tulip garnet Mar 14, 2022, 2:11 PM

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Cool thank you so much

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