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wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:00 AM

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I’ll take a look in a second

noble raft Mar 7, 2022, 1:02 AM

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Using finality and that axe for your oh are not helping you out at all Shadow techniques proc aren't normalized so 2x daggers are bis

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:03 AM

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yeah that's the first thing I see as well, those weapons are painful

noble raft Mar 7, 2022, 1:04 AM

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Snd uptime is low too 54%

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:04 AM

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that 236 offhand loses to a heroic dungeon dagger

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on top of the slice issue

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there's some issue with your cooldown usage

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this is your opener for example

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generally speaking you don't want to flag during a dance, nor do you want to symbols that far away from a flag

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typically the combo should always be flag->finish->symbols+dance

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:06 AM

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ok so do i need full comb points before i start flag?

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:06 AM

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yes

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:06 AM

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i see i see

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:06 AM

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you also danced 3 times in a row in your opener, which then led you to delay the symbols

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came in about 10 seconds late on it

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you delayed the next one, so we're about a minute and a half in and basically behind a full symbols cast

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ideally you would cast the symbols on cooldown

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and then fit everything else around it

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:08 AM

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yeah thats one thing that im not understanding the frist one lines up but lineing up the other dances and symobls is tough is there a certain trick or thing to keep in mind

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:08 AM

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the trick is to just hold everything for symbols

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you symbols every 30 seconds and everything else slots in

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once you get obedience (I assume you're waiting for unity), you have 1 minute flags

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:09 AM

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oh ok i see that makes since so even if i have a dance up i hold?

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:09 AM

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so you do your opener, cast everything, then symbols, symbols flag, symbols, symbols flag

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:09 AM

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opaque bronze oh ok i see that makes since so even if i have a dance up i hold?

yeah you basically want to always hold a charge of dance

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:09 AM

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ohhhh ok

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:09 AM

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only use dance if you're going to overcap on charges, or you're using a symbols

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typically it would sort of line up that you would then double dance for flag windows

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:10 AM

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what do you mean by double dance in a flag can you give me an exmaple?

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:10 AM

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so you would flag->finish->symbols dance

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do a dance

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and then after that one finishes

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you would be close to overcapping

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so you would dance again

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:11 AM

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oh i see that makes since

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:11 AM

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you want to avoid stuff like this pretty much

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where you waste a gcd in dance casting flag

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and then you don't have the symbols buff for the flag damage

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and then dance runs out and you're backstabing during symbols

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:12 AM

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yeah it always feels bad when im back stabbing

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:13 AM

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yeah, backstabs are basically just downtime while you wait for symbols to come back up

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:13 AM

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so out side of my symbols do i need to get my slice and dice up before i start my burn?

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:14 AM

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you never let slice and dice drop

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:14 AM

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and rupture or do i wait for my down time after frist symbols

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:14 AM

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it should be 100% up

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all the time

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every time

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if it drops in dance, you refresh it

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:14 AM

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so thats the frist thing i do in a pull?

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:14 AM

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yes

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a typically opener is strike->slice->dance to 5cp, flag rupture symbols

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flag during dance in your opener is fine cause you're capped on dance charges anyway

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but outside of your opener you want to dance after

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that's mostly just because dance serves as a way to enable shadowstrikes, and not as a damage buff

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so any gcd you spend during dance that doesn't replace a backstab, ain't great

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:16 AM

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ok i see those five combo points before frist flag am i getting those from back stabs?

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:17 AM

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no, you dance after the slice so you can strike

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:17 AM

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ok

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do i pop symbols with that very frist dance too?

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oh no i see ok thank you!

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:18 AM

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np

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so just to sum it up nice and short:

get some better weapons, first priority would be to get rid of that axe in your offhand with a dagger, pretty much any dagger will do
slice uptime is giga important, never let it drop, pandemic is your friend on it, it's a long buff so it's got a long pandemic
symbols on cooldown, fit everything on top of that 30 second cooldown

opaque bronze Mar 7, 2022, 1:23 AM

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bet sounds great i didnt know about the dagger thing

wheat kiln Mar 7, 2022, 1:25 AM

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yeah make sure to sim yourself

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