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signal edge
I'd start with a drek nerf tbh
And then
Buff other classes
I think the bigger problem is that other classes simply received garbage sets
While dh got a good one
shell thunder
I mean yeah most classes got total garbage sets
But multistrike is still not a fair card at 1 mana
Too much synergy with too much shit
Glaive, vanguard, pufferfist, kurtris
signal edge
I will say
I'm happy to see vanguard finally see play
It's a cool card
Maybe we build a thief rogue
And put in tooth of wrathion
3 dmg is pretty good vs dh
queen wraith
Tooth is just so bad in its current state though
signal edge
What if we play this
big
Class: Demon Hunter
Format: Standard
Year of the Hydra
2x (1) Fury (Rank 1)
2x (1) Multi-Strike
2x (2) Chaos Strike
2x (2) Fel Barrage
2x (2) Keen Reflex
2x (3) Aldrachi Warblades
2x (3) Chaos Leech
2x (3) Eye Beam
1x (4) Vanndar Stormpike
2x (5) Faceless Manipulator
2x (5) Need for Greed
2x (5) Sigil of Reckoning
1x (6) Caria Felsoul
1x (6) Kurtrus, Demon-Render
1x (7) Xhilag of the Abyss
2x (8) Illidari Inquisitor
2x (8) Taintheart Tormenter
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Actually tormenter is probably not good in this meta
Forgefiend should be much better
shell thunder
Man this is how I wanna play dh
quaint aspen
dont expect any before mini set
shell thunder
no shot
shell thunder
dude i love how the smugnest off top level players is happening in hearthstone too as it does in wow 
i remember watching habugabu call "wildfire naga mage is flat earth compared to ignite"
and now the ignite build is just directly worse LOL
signal edge
Ignite wasn't good to begin with
You just shuffle 20 different cards in a turn and still produce nothing
shell thunder
yep
shell thunder
signal edge
Just another day 🤠
quaint aspen
@shell thunder I saw xblyzes playing pirate rogue top10 legend
JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE
or well its not pirate rogue, its a hybrid
but has alot of pirates!!
rocky vale
oh didn't even know there was a channel
mech mage is disgusting lol
literally only lose if my mulligan is bad
or dh draws the nuts
rocky vale
yea
if i don't get a 1 drop i lose vs dh as long as they don't have a meh mulligan
that class is friggin stupid
irondeep trog tech lowkey been clapping a few dh's tho
rocky vale
sometimes mulligan just makes me so mad
shell thunder
theres a reason pirate warrior isnt a good deck anymore LOL
thick crater
buddies removed amalgam is back battlegrounds good again
rocky vale
i honestly don't think pirate warrior is good
i tested it a bunch and i don't see how it's still rated so well
if you don't legit open the draw pirate pirates you just lose the game
every deck out tempos you before you can finish quest
rocky vale
mechs go brrrr
signal edge
Quest warrior was never good 😉
rocky vale
man why is the only good counter to dh control warrior
i don't wanna play 30 minute games
shell thunder
ye really strong dec
rocky vale
aight i'm playing dh
almost legend and i keep running into these cucks lol
i still dislike spell hunter more though
0 interactive gameplay
shell thunder
yep good deck
rocky vale
shell thunder
Twitter
signal edge
quaint aspen
dh buffs 
signal edge
dh buffs <:starege:923197272064426075>
for a second I thought I was looking at wow chat
shell thunder
those rogue buffs
im ready to play something like this
except u add tooth and the thief pirate in
signal edge
Thief rogue buffs 
signal edge
thief
Class: Rogue
Format: Standard
Year of the Hydra
2x (0) Preparation
2x (0) Shadowstep
2x (1) Blackwater Cutlass
2x (1) Filletfighter
2x (1) Gone Fishin'
2x (1) SI:7 Extortion
1x (1) Sir Finley, Sea Guide
2x (1) Swashburglar
1x (2) Maestra of the Masquerade
2x (2) Reconnaissance
2x (2) Tooth of Nefarian
2x (3) Double Agent
1x (4) Edwin, Defias Kingpin
2x (4) Hench-Clan Burglar
2x (5) Wildpaw Gnoll
1x (6) Crabatoa
1x (6) Mr. Smite
1x (8) Shadowcrafter Scabbs
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My beloved deck is back
signal edge
We're back to asspulling wins
rocky vale
I seen a few interesting reno rogue lists already too
looks pretty fun
holy shit dh got hit lets gooo
time to dust all my dh cards 
shell thunder
rocky vale
Does seem op
I wonder if a burn murloc shaman deck would work
Flood board hit face give spell power nuke face
shell thunder
id rather just play bloodlust at that point
rocky vale
But you don’t necessarily need the monsters to live a turn with the spell damage
It’s cheaper if they do but you can just drop a bunch of 0-1 mana minions and blast face
shell thunder
But then you have to run burn spells
shell thunder
its really badif you arent doing multicaster
like u just cant cross the builds basically
ur either running a multicaster with biolum, or a murloc with bloodlust
rocky vale
sadge
shell thunder
signal edge
Morbin
thick crater
signal edge
I like the rogue one drop but what deathrattles are there?
thick crater
there is a DR Rogue deck on ladder that utilizes naval mine
shell thunder
oh yeah you could maybe use this in mine rogue
rocky vale
God I hate that deck
undone furnace
Games are super short with that deck atleast
rocky vale
isn't that
good for them???
like this is only viable if they're near dead unless they heavily overextend into a few curses or something
immolate seems litty though
shell thunder
Well yeah that's how'd ud use it
Get them low, play a overstated minion and then lock plays from them oit
rocky vale
yea but most lock decks right now don't really get you low
both curse locks do like 20+ damage to kill someone
maybe viable in murloc
shell thunder
well the idea is u put in in an aggro shell like murloc
and then use this as a finisher
rocky vale
guess that's fine
i'm more excited for immolate
makes control warrior matchup way better for curse 😄
shell thunder
that card probably sucks LOL
rocky vale
eh i run
1 weapon in my curse deck
just for the warrior matchup
can prob just run immolate instead for fun
shell thunder
i mean yeah if its 4fun go crazy
but the card has a few issues
that card is actively -1 cards ever time its drawn in any non hard controld o nothing deck
rocky vale
true
shell thunder
so like, any initiative focused deck, thief rogue, murloc, handbuff/mech paladin etc, this card any time its drawn is denying you a playable card
rocky vale
weapon kinda does the same thing tho
shell thunder
and even against shit like charge warrior, or holy paladin, unless you play it on curve, 3 turns is a long time
rocky vale
also true
shell thunder
like if you play it on turn 7 or 8
rocky vale
2 turns would be nuts but
shell thunder
charge warrior will kill you in 3 turns
rocky vale
prob a lil too good then
yea charge warrior is cringe
they could always just finley too
shell thunder
yep
rocky vale
sadge
shell thunder
a think an important comparison is glide
rocky vale
prob not better than weapon then
shell thunder
people thought this card would be OP
it ended up never seeing play unitl they added the DH quest that rewarded you for drawing cards
rocky vale
lmao
shell thunder
rocky vale
yea
rocky vale
lmaoooo
rocky vale
lmao
i mean the only deck where
holding 9-10 cards forever is good
is charge warrior
because they can 1 shot you from 0 board
any1 else as soon as they play a card they just get blasted
shell thunder
i mean theres a few this is decent against
boar priest on curve, but thats a tournament deck really
rocky vale
yea
shell thunder
if you curve this against paladin, you can brick their cariel, or hit their smite if you do it early enough
rocky vale
could be worth tinkering with depending on what you're seeing a lot of
shell thunder
and if chrage warrior hits some of their combo pieces you will just be out of range potentially
shell thunder
all while punishing decks from "keeping 10 cards in hand to avoid curses"
rocky vale
its just when you see it late is it a lot worse
though i do like the idea of forcing them to empty hand
because that shit gets mad annoying
shell thunder
but the fact ladder isnt all 10 cards in hand control decks, the card is just a super big liability
rocky vale
yea
shell thunder
its a tech card, and tech cards are not great
rocky vale
except for starfish
shell thunder
from a ladder perspective
rocky vale
i run double cuz at my legend rank i see tons of hunters and paladins
that shit is hilarious
shell thunder
ye
rocky vale
ful board of gigantic minions turned into useless 2/3s xD
lucid violet
good for them???
its an overstatted card so the effect is not pure upside, its "technically" a downside but can be turned into an upside
signal edge
Ngl naval mine rogue is pretty fun to play
signal edge
Btw do you run Jace?
shell thunder
Dropped it
shell thunder
Bro @retrog
@signal edge
Jackpot
Format: Standard
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Look at this deck
Im watching banter in bed
This deck is hilarious
rocky vale
mine rogue is mega cringe
signal edge
Trying to queue into control warriors
shell thunder
control warrior is the best deck in the game not dh
rocky vale
ah is prob cuz i can't select certain ranks only
control shows up pretty low for overall
even tho that deck op af
quaint aspen
yeah warrior farms everything except priest
and ramp druid but think its not super popular rn
rocky vale
I just wish there were better tech cards for the matchup that weren’t shit into every other deck
shell thunder
control warrior has 2 bad matchups and its celestial druid and boar priest
which are only like top 200 decks
rocky vale
Naga priest is so inconsistent though
I’ve vsed multiple where no wig for 4 turns is just gg lol
shell thunder
i mean yeah its one of the highest draw winrate cards in hs atm
quaint aspen
atleast you got the tutor for it
or I guess that one can whiff aswell right because theres 4 or 5 spells in the deck?
rocky vale
i think the discover spell will usually hit it
shell thunder
nah the good versions just play 3
rocky vale
it's discover , bless, wig afaik
shell thunder
devour
rocky vale
oh yea
but you can easily just not hit that discover / wig for like 3 turns and then
most control decks can deal with you and anything aggro has established a decent board and you can't get back without samuro
shell thunder
i mean if u draw wig u just win
usually how the games go
wig good
devour is good vs aggro
but i mean the meta is 50% rogue and then like 20% war so
seems like a good deck
quaint aspen
lmao no
rocky vale
ye
is fucked if they draw wig early
and have either naga support or that dumb ass elemental
rocky vale
all i see is rogue, war, and dh
shell thunder
30% rogue 20% war
rocky vale
occasional paladin
quaint aspen
how much was thief rogue 6months ago
rocky vale
and occasional hunter
quaint aspen
that shit was like 60? or was it even more
quaint aspen
wasnt it way more in high legend
then poison just added gnoll
aswell
I guess there was alot of druid
shell thunder
quaint aspen
3 decks 70%
shell thunder
this was final form rogue
quaint aspen
seems fine
rocky vale
gross
quaint aspen
yeah they nuked rogue
and now reverted some nerfs because it was so bad
and now its good again
🥲
shell thunder
its a tier 1 deck bogged down by terrible lists
rocky vale
yea like i see a lot of people just running
cards that seem like more fun but less good
like the jackpot version
shell thunder
jackpot rogue is the nuts
rocky vale
i beat that deck literally every time
shell thunder
rocky vale
unless it draws tess and double contraband after getting some decent steals
quaint aspen
lol I saw you in chat yesterday guzy
rocky vale
it just does literally nothing all game
quaint aspen
banter was getting farmed by warr
quaint aspen
was prolly clicking around for that one but I came back
and there were atleast 3 or 4 warrs in a row
that just farmed him
shell thunder
i didnt even count that for a second
i just said to myself "yeah this seems like infinite, maybe its lethal"
rocky vale
lol
shell thunder
turns out it was exact 
rocky vale
exact lethals alaways bussin
got a nice one with a dreadsteed and a few curses earlier vs control warrior
fuck control wars lol
signal edge
Dh moment
signal edge
Nice turn 1 mr quest warrior
rocky vale
mutanus is a hellova card
signal edge
This is gonna take a while to get through
quaint aspen
you die from fatigue faster
signal edge
queen wraith
Platebreaker tech
shell thunder
this patch sucks
all the fun decks i was enjoying are terrible now
and then all that im queuing into is fucking curselock and hydraladon on 4 hunters
who do it every game to me
4 in a row now
rocky vale
yea a lot of these felt heavyhanded at best
rocky vale
bruh on god i hate that freezing shit
like it's a cool concept sure but being able to do it for several turns in a row is just ridiculous
signal edge
Got to legend with cwarrior
feels like the deck is still fine
there are enough curselocks and mine rogues to justify outarmoring them
shell thunder
-2 battlefiend +2 herald
signal edge
Yeah DH is as good as I imagined it to be
shell thunder
felgorger, and fossil is so good for jace
signal edge
I do miss the turn 6 Caria dopamine hit tho
shell thunder
my jace on curves legit do 10 min
signal edge
Smite on 7 is a big yikes tho
shell thunder
dude rogue is so fucking bad other than shitty mines
smite was so important
so dumb to nerf it imo
quaint aspen
half the nerfs dont make sense
signal edge
Lots of ppl complained about smite from jugg or nellie
shell thunder
still dumb
signal edge
Smite in rogue was a minority of complaints
shell thunder
smite was needed for board based decks to push through for lethal
rogue doesnt have any reach anymore
shell thunder
rogue just doesnt have reach anymore so its reliant on "not getting removed" which is a big ask
signal edge
They had such a good track record on data based nerfs
quaint aspen
I havent heard 1 streamer say anything good about these nerfs other than fuck nellie
signal edge
And decide to shoot themselves in the leg with feel based stuff
quaint aspen
so I think the consesus theyre dumb seems pretty reasonable
signal edge
It's very disappointing
quaint aspen
but hey atleast nellie went from busted to probably like 2nd worst colossus 
shell thunder
yeah idk, this set of nerfs felt odd
quaint aspen
+3200 for me
shell thunder
tidal revenant is the weirdest nerf for sure
signal edge
Yeah dude tidal is so cool
shell thunder
card would have been bad with the depths nerf anyway
signal edge
Nerfed literally 2 weeks after being printed
I still run it in cwarrior tho
Could consider cutting it
quaint aspen
and with warrior playrate in the dumpster hunter back on the menu
but yeah its only a few days in, we will see how it will be in a week or two
shell thunder
im sure new cards blah blah
signal edge
I like the shatter nerf tho
signal edge
As a cwarrior player
shell thunder
druid cant play aggro, because theres no arbor up
signal edge
It doesn't clear everything anymore
shell thunder
and it cant play any slow game because they nerfed scales LOL
signal edge
And you get these hectic situations where you need to solve how to full clear the board
quaint aspen
yeah scales nerf is just like what the actual
how is that ever a card that needed a nerf
signal edge
Yeah scales in standard was fine
signal edge
Although I'm pretty sure you wanted scales nerfed guy 
shell thunder
oh yeah i did
signal edge
When druid was dominant
shell thunder
3 months ago
signal edge
I didn't mind naga mage tbh
shell thunder
signal edge
Even the blowouts were alright
shell thunder
in tourneys and in very skilled hands, its p good
but it sucks for 99% of the entire HS playerbase
and even at the highets level, it wasnt even that good
it was good, but nowhere near nerf levels
quaint aspen
I mean sure but thats 10x more true for boar priest
and yet youre crying about it not being nerfed
:p
shell thunder
well im saying in the sense that if were nerfing for "feels"
boar priest "feels" pretty fucking garbage
so does shit like CA
"feels" nerfs are always dumb for me because feelings are so personal
like i hate boar priest, and CA druid
but other people hate smite school teacher
so when u start nerfing for feels whos feelings get accounted for and whos dont
signal edge
I think occasional feels nerfs are fine
shell thunder
yer
signal edge
Like Barnes nerf
Just not on this scale
And they wanna do more feels based balancing in the future
shell thunder
also something nice for warrior as u said earlier
dh matchup got better for warrior low key
u dont have to deal with 2 carias now
shell thunder
Still rod
signal edge
Yeah I have a suspicion rod will have one last hurrah this year before it rotates
quaint aspen
classic playtest at 4 but launches at 3 so it wouldnt be dead on arrival
gets nerfed back to 4 but was still too good there
and still sees play at 5
signal edge
Ye rod is super good in wild as well
shell thunder
It's only bad rn cuz there's no draw for warlock
It'll be good if they ever get a draw card again
rocky vale
Rod would be amazing if it was 4
There’s so much good removal you could use with it then
It wouldn’t just be pass turn hope you don’t get fucked in tempo
rocky vale
Ok you were right guy I took immolate out of my deck and my winrate went up 30% in like a 15-20 game run
signal edge
There's a lot of experimentation around big spell mage
Deck seems super weird but sonehow functional
shell thunder
Pelican diver
shell thunder
Finley is obviously terrible
rocky vale
i hate that deck it's similar to thief rogue
you basically need to highroll and cheat out stuff early
it gets crushed by most aggro tho
signal edge
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signal edge
Murloc warlock doing well vs big spell mage
shell thunder
LOL
Dude I was watching meati play mech mage
And reqvam on mech paladin
Habu queued into 3 mech mages in a row
shell thunder
just beat kibler
shell thunder
The opponent mulligans his cards. "Oh my god dude, are you kidding me?" says Feno. The opponent plays a 2 drop. "Seriously dude? This is crazy." The opponent draws a card at the start of their turn. "No fckin way dude, I can't beat that." The opponent hero powers. "This is some crazy RNG bullshit" says Feno.
shell thunder
yeah okay dude
signal edge
demon seed 
shell thunder
this dude playing immolate and then demon seed for the mirror
signal edge
I swear this meta is basically do dumb stuff and somehow win
signal edge
let's go!
shell thunder
Denathrius is gonna be "If your deck contains no duplicates, equip remornia"
screenshot this
signal edge
maybe denathrius hero card
rocky vale
this meta is 10x worse than warrior meta before the nerfs
every single deck is just rng bullshit or draw some mana cheat bullshit and if your opponent doesn't have the perfect answer gg
🤮
quaint aspen
still prefer this over coin depths into depths
signal edge
New control warrior versions look honest
And i prefer these new version over depths shenanigans
rocky vale
I dunno I’m not having fun losing to 9 mana rng cheated out on turn 6/7 or jackpot rogue rng
Literally lost two games to rng pyroblasts to my face in a single day one rogue one mage
Or hunter cheating out king face on turn 5
The entire meta is just depths mana cheat but worse
signal edge
nah depths was way more offensive lmao
rocky vale
I disagree
Every time I’m beating out about to beat big mage they just drop rng fiesta bullshit that clears my board summons a 7/7 draws 4 cards and pyroblasts my face
Actual aids
shell thunder
Rune is consistently random
It's going to "freeze stuff, deal probably 3 damage to the board, and then some bonus damage/draw"
rocky vale
I’ve vsed that deck probably 30-40 times already and not a single time had a mage played that card and not completely swung the game in their favor
Or they just turn your spells in to 10 mana trash and dump 12 12s that you can’t clear on turn 6
shell thunder
I mean yeah the deck is strong
But it's very weak to minions
Deck has basically no removal
If you play dh for example it's basically a free win
rocky vale
i don't want to play dh though lol
and half the decks that are strong aggro just lose to the other half of the meta
big beast hunter / thief rogue
so it's like
kill mage on turn 4 and lose to the other 2 most popular decks
shell thunder
Yeah no deck is good against every deck lol
When a deck is good vs every hearthstone deck its op and it gets nerfed
Have to accept that picking any deck means you have bad matchups elsewhere
rocky vale
i think it's just the decks i have are very polarizing
unfortunately i don't have any of the mana cheat decks so
shell thunder
Play dh, it's good vs everything
shell thunder
Well pirate warrior giga sucks
rocky vale
yea i just use it to stomp mages
shell thunder
Should probs dust Nellie and such and try crafting rogue
shell thunder
Rogue kills mages but wins vs other hearthstone decks
rocky vale
i tossed that to make murloc sham lol
yea i think rogue would prob be the most fun
i should look into just scrapping shaman and warrior and see if i can make that
shell thunder
Murloc shaman is pretty decent but I doubt it'll last into next meta
rocky vale
i love curselock but it's legit unplayable into mage
shell thunder
Some version of "tempo rogue" is usually good enough especially with gnolls being in a good spot
rocky vale
yea i could see that
shell thunder
Between gnolls, scabbs, smite, boat, fillet, and crab, some collection of these cards will make rogue playable for a long time
rocky vale
is boat rogue still better than jackpot
rocky vale
all i see is jackpot in like 2kish legend i feel like
rocky vale
makes sense
shell thunder
But u still see it at top 200 cuz it's "fun"
signal edge
Boat is only slightly better and that's the excuse ppl need to play the fun version
shell thunder
Yep
rocky vale
wait
boat has horrendous matchups into dh and beast hunter
and big mage
how is this deck good
shell thunder
It beats mage
rocky vale
gotta be diluted by bad people playing it
then
i needa just get replay sub again so i can look at actual legend data lol
signal edge
It's also 50/50 vs hunt and dh at higher ranks
shell thunder
People are very bad at the deck
I win many games as dh because my opponents are dumb
rocky vale
lmao
shell thunder
So just don't be dumb and u win more
Pro tip, play cards, and go face
Don't trade
signal edge
At legend the matchup spread looks very solid
shell thunder
Your default location your minions should go is face
You need to find a reason to trade
signal edge
I played galvangar on turn 6 vs face hunter
Galv smacked face 3 turns in a row and I won
rocky vale
rocky vale
wait is
boat rogue why all the dh's in 1-2k legend range are running that
taunt fel minion and
lifesteal rush minion
now
*metamorfin and herald of chaos
eh i guess they do shit on murloc sham too
shell thunder
Well that card is just nuts vs a lot of stuff
signal edge
Metamorfin is just good
shell thunder
But gnolls being worse is part of it yes
signal edge
Not sure about herald
rocky vale
shits on aggro and mirror
shell thunder
U just play okani and glaive
rocky vale
but it's more multristrike shits on aggro
and the lifesteal minion just lets you get out of lethal range after multistriking everything lol
shell thunder
Okani is the best card in hs rn so u play that, and then as a 1 of glaive is just a better 1of
rocky vale
okani do kinda fuck
shell thunder
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signal edge
Renathal looks like fun
rocky vale
Decks with strong draw engines finna go ham at 40
signal edge
Murloc shaman should be doing fine
rocky vale
yea you can still kill opponents on turn 5 with a good curve if your opponent draws basically nothing but
40 cards and 40 hp gives you so much removal
curselock going crazy priest going crazy
lucid violet
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Oh boy is this bad 
lucid violet
40 cards and 40 hp gives you so much removal
You never draw through your whole deck versus aggro so the 10 extra cards are pure downside
rocky vale
the only downside is for one of cards like tamsin
you literally have twice as much removal in a deck that
had a limited amount of space because of the curse engine
like curselock was already good against aggro now it's a fucking machine lol
but iuno maybe the really strong anti aggro decks won't have a ton of good matchups elsewhere so could still be fine
lucid violet
unless you draw 30 cards, you dont have more removal at all, you just muddy your deck with lower quality cards
if you died by the time you drew 17 cards, that just means you drew 17 out of 40 cards now instead of 17 out of 30 cards, so your deck becomes less consistent and those last 10 cards will be lower quality than the first 30 cards (otherwise you would have already picked the cards in a 30 card deck)
people pay mana to have smaller decks (thats exactly what cards like novice engineer, mortal coil and other cheap cards that cycle themselves do, you pay 1 or 2 mana to only have a 28 card deck)
rocky vale
i do get your point but the deck just seems nuts so far
definitely need more testing
like 7 out of the 10 cards i added are removal
and half of those are board wipes
lucid violet
having a bigger deck is a huge downside and i dont think 10 more health is a big enough payoff
lucid violet
like 7 out of the 10 cards i added are removal
why dont you add them to a 30 card deck? because they arent as good
rocky vale
for the most part yea it just doesn't fit in the curse deck
compared to the already used spells
it is fun tho
lucid violet
there are other card games like yugioh and magic where there is a minimum size decks can be but they are also allowed to be bigger and you basically never want to add more cards than the minimum allowed to your deck
rocky vale
i mean i can easily see how it interferes with control matchups
since you just dilute your curse draws
shell thunder
Oh boy is this bad <:lul:585739277548388352>
Yeah, giga shit lol
rocky vale
even with bad draws making murloc shaman my bitch this 40 card curselock might not be good in the long run but it sure is fun
shell thunder
its for sure worse than normal curselock
rocky vale
yea 40 cards def not as good as i thought it was, it's quite bad y'all right
its very fun though
and curselock is great against aggro regardless
the 40 cards heavily fucks your control matchups tho xd
rocky vale
yea i vsed a few quest priests
and they completed the quests on curve
and still lost cuz they just never found the quest in the remaining 20+ cards
quaint aspen
yea 40 cards def not as good as i thought it was, it's quite bad y'all right
more cards is worse in most scenarios in every card game :p
you have hp to offset it here, but if that kills aggro then just the best control version will farm control matchups
but if that version doesnt run 40, means that aggro comes back
just a vicious cycle!
rocky vale
yea i think curselock handles it very well vs aggro but it just gets farmed by normal control decks so like you said moot point
40 is overall cheeks
shell thunder
shell thunder
queen wraith
mildest hearthstone interaction
rocky vale
dude paladin is always mid
thick crater
pretty weird card seems like a wincon for control deck but at the same time control decks don't really play tokens
shell thunder
ramp druid card
thick crater
yeah could be with coldtooth mine and scale of onyxia
rocky vale
busted
lucid violet
Is "amongst enemies" not really weird Syntax? Do cthun and that 6 Mana Paladin card that does 8 damage etc also say that?
shell thunder
Don't think so
queen wraith
Cthun is "randomly split among all enemies" for both versions, same with avenging wrath
shell thunder
signal edge
That was an insightful read
But yeah I agree I don't really care about minor inconsistencies accross similar cards as long as I understand the functionality
rocky vale
seems like a solid add to a control warrior deck
signal edge
shell thunder
many cards shown
signal edge
I like altimore
shell thunder
hes nuts
lucid violet
"an enemy location" like so they can only play 6 minions instead of 7?
shell thunder
no its the new card type
thick crater
shell thunder
i love that everybody who plays these terrible renathal decks just draw this ever game
vague moss
found it stealing rouge hard to play
signal edge
good players always have ramp into CA
shell thunder
With 40 cards in deck
And then play anacondra nourish miracle grow scales onyxia
queen wraith
Token relic dh with denathrius
quaint aspen
seems ok, but relics standalone kinda dog
quaint aspen
even upgraded they are mid af
rocky vale
infuse the mechanic just seems to want to flood a lot of little shitty minions
and a lot of cards support that for synergy
and it just doesn't look fun
like the imp warlock shit 🤮
or dude pala
shell thunder
i mean idk about that
the draw one is just skull after even just 2 relic plays
and the relic doubler location will upgrade it twice
so you can relic double, play the draw
draw 2 discount 3, draw 2 discount 4
queen wraith
the draw one is just skull after even just 2 relic plays
Better than skull because -1 mana and no outcast
shell thunder
well better sometimes, worse sometimes
queen wraith
Yea I meant post upgrade
shell thunder
no outcast, lower discount early on, less cards drawn
queen wraith
Oh yea I forgot skull was draw 3
shell thunder
but, no outcast, bigger discounts, easy to play multiple times
quaint aspen
you say JUST, but its not JUST
you have to play and cast shit versions to make the other versions decent
not sure if youll have 8 card slots for all that garbage that only interacts with eachothjer
shell thunder
well i mean yeah its like jade cards right
quaint aspen
I mean not really
shell thunder
jade cards were terrible on the first 3 casts
quaint aspen
it ramped you
shell thunder
not all of them
just the blossom
stuff like the elephant, the spirit, and aya were all really shit cards when they summoned 1/1s and 2/2s
but they ramped all your other jade cards to be bigger
where eventually it was "1 mana summon a 7/7"
quaint aspen
it was also alot of years ago :p
just seems like a card type that needs more support from future expansions
shell thunder
I assume there will be some 2 mana 2/2 discover a relic or something
Or a 1 mana 1/3 reduce the cost of relics by 1 or something
quaint aspen
they would be taking up a huge % of all dh cards
shell thunder
It'll be like most sets, 2 packages being shipped out in the same expac
shell thunder
rocky vale
Anti aggro tech 
quaint aspen
hmm
shell thunder
card is fucking cracked
its just neophyte
imagine ur an initiative focused deck, like a face hunter
you duster, okani
u just push infinite damage with this
so many decks rely on rush to contest board
quaint aspen
yeah seems very good
shell thunder
vague moss
nice card to clear the minion
sacred pilot
@shell thunder did you preorder
shell thunder
not yet waiting to get my wow gold for sales
sacred pilot
For sure
Man I miss us
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I’ve been working on my enhance alt sponsored by Foreverman
shell thunder
hell yeah bro
queen wraith
Dh has so much draw now
shell thunder
rocky vale
You can activate that 6 times with a 1 costs battlecry or something reduced by mallet lmaooo
Wait even more because free minion so 8 times
quaint aspen
gonna be like the old kael
either busted and gets nerfed to unplayable, or just not played at all
sacred pilot
You can activate that 6 times with a 1 costs battlecry or something reduced by m...
Clownfish
vague moss
i create a us accountwe can play hearthstone together
shell thunder
@signal edge bro ive been watching reqvam recently
his streams are so good man
he has a rule where if you say "leave the game, stop bming" you ban the user for that amount of time of the game
signal edge
Aggro 
shell thunder
featuring flipper friends
shell thunder
yeah
i swapped to thief rogue and lost 15 in a row
then won them all back with fel dh
signal edge
Feels like you only lose to beast hunter if they get harpoon on 3
signal edge
Tbh
I didn't enjoy this expansion that much
It's balanced and all
But it's a 5/10 exp for me
thick crater
yeah compared to onyxia's lair the mini-set is quite underwhelming
signal edge
Gotta love how I finally play aggro druid and suddenly get control shamans and warlocks
shell thunder
turbo nuts
shell thunder
this dude in banters chat
bro imagine @ing a streamer saying "im gonna smoke a big fuckin blunt"
signal edge
signal edge
Seedsman
rocky vale
rocky vale
Catch me on control shaman this flood aggro ramp shit not my cup of tea lmao
signal edge
This card is hilarious
shell thunder
(it is)
vague moss
FG wut is your build u usually use for ranking
Dragon druid and control thar is kinda..
strange for me to play
shell thunder
ye
i like my aggro decks
fast games, every turn matters alot, lots of lethal math
vague moss
i am trying to make a aggro druid, but i don't have enough dust
but it's going to have new card, means new build, i will wait
Gouf is too crazy for druid tho
shell thunder
Yeah guff is super good lol
vague moss
too op
signal edge
Aggro is not enjoyable this meta for me
Nothing too powerful to take on control decke
But fel dh feels like a deck with very nice pace
shell thunder
Fel dh feels good
signal edge
A lot of decks rn are arena decks but empowered
Fel dh feels the opposite
Very cohesive
And flavorful
shell thunder
Yeah it's a finished hearthstone deck
vague moss
i have a battle with it tho, so fast to boost up
i haven't change my deck to dragon even
he finish me tho
shell thunder
Yeah too many decks just feel like they won't exist next set
Like curse lock...
Quest priest
Dude minelock is gonna be so good
Rod into the imp draw
So busted
vague moss
curse wl is weak
but it truely effective to dragon druid and control shaman
i think fel dh will be effective to the most 30 health deck and some slow 40 health deck
shell thunder
Fel dh does so much damage, the 40hp doesn't matter that much
Especially since the decks draw worse more often
vague moss
yea you are right
the last time i was finish which i was using 40hp dragon druid
i choose the wrong server should not go to asia server
shell thunder
Lmao why
signal edge
Asia has longer queue times
vague moss
korean are so crazy they just showing their taunt
signal edge
China is separate
signal edge
At legend you feel the queue times
vague moss
yea
shell thunder
Isn't the China server the biggest??
vague moss
but i have buy alot in asia
yea but expensive
don't have to much money, i am just a college student
signal edge
Why do you have to buy a lot?
vague moss
We can use some special way to let our account in Argentina
shell thunder
Is China and Asia a diff server?
vague moss
diff
signal edge
Yes
signal edge
Think it's the same with wow no?
shell thunder
Probably
signal edge
Pretty sure even dota 2 has separate Chinese servers
vague moss
yea, only in this way the game can be put into the market and can be passed
quaint aspen
So you can only play cn hs inside cn, but asia server from everywhere?
shell thunder
Think so
vague moss
idk
maybe u can change ur shortcut to get into it
"D:\Battle.net\Battle.net Launcher.exe" --setregion=CN --setlanguage=enUS
change ur shortcut of battlenet like this
maybe u can get in
shell thunder
signal edge
Get into the forbidden kingdom 👀
vague moss
oh i have something need to tell u, cn hs server has many bot in low rank
which means the server is very friendly to new people
quaint aspen
Theres alot of bots here in casual queu farming xp
vague moss
i can make sure that the bot in cn server is more than other server
because the account trade
maybe u can meet bot per 2 battle under the gold
but when i playing in asia server, things change i can meet every real person under gold
Also Argentina Account is cheap to buy card bags
signal edge
@shell thunder feno and the boys reviewing cards