Been winning a lot with enrage warrior
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Custom Warrior
Class: Warrior
Format: Standard
Year of the Wolf
2x (1) Mistake
2x (1) Murmy
2x (1) Sanguine Depths
2x (2) Amalgam of the Deep
2x (2) Anima Extractor
2x (2) Crazed Wretch
2x (2) Cruel Taskmaster
2x (2) Embers of Strength
2x (3) Imbued Axe
2x (3) Power Slider
2x (3) Weapons Expert
2x (4) Light of the Phoenix
1x (4) Thori'belore
1x (5) Blackrock 'n' Roll
2x (5) Gorloc Ravager
1x (6) Decimator Olgra
1x (7) The One-Amalgam Band
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The legendary spell seals it for blood dk
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thaddius lock looks sus
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Cut etc for astalor
Trust
The deck is the nuts
ended up 8/0 with the list
With astalor over ETC
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I love this community incentive to just bully blood dk out of standard 
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tony druid is really fun
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Ya
Chad warlock is really fun
Meta is quite good
nerfs did nothing
BUt the meta is developing
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damn pulling off combo with finley in chadlock is so satisfying
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22/8 with this atm
at 400
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damn I love when people don't kill slime and I have shallow grave
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Seems like it's gonna be a buffs patch next
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The vs report took my warlock list and made it worse by putting in etc
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Etc is sus
sacred pilot
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my opponents hero power on turn 7 arena 
he just rez'd 3 more of those minions 
AND 4 MORE
mf has Ysera's stats for a hero power
still won 
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Arena became too much like constructed for my liking
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yup i miss trading yetis and going for value
Play classic and enjoy the game
Really wish they added a classic mode to arena too
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or just arena until like un'goro
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explanation for dk icon
in the nerf section
presumably it will be a nerf to dk discovers
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Shield block buffs LETSGOOOO
lucid violet
presumably it will be a nerf to dk discovers
only being able to discover cards that fit your deck's runes maybe?
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only being able to discover cards that fit your deck's runes maybe?
or not being able to discover triple rune cards
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Probably tripple restriction
If it was restricted to runes only blood dk would just discover vampiric blood more consistently
Or frost dk would discover more frostwyrm breafhs
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taking triple rune cards out of the discover pool would be super unintuitive and seem arbitrary though, even if maybe it would be better for balance
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It will take about 10 seconds to get used to the unintuitive change
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It will take about 10 seconds to get used to the unintuitive change
it just feels like an "exception" instead of a consistent mechanic change, if you didnt read about it happening you would have no idea of it being a thing. Only being able to discover cards that fit your runes would make sense out of the box
opens the door to things like "legendaries are taken out of the discover pool", "locations are taken out", "10 mana cards are taken out", "this one specific card is taken out" ... just arbitrary like yu-gi-oh rulings
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sure open them up
better balancing a game proper than worrying about something ppl can get over in 10 seconds
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Warrior is bussin
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I tried riffs in enrage warrior
I just queued into mega tryhards
Lost all my rating
Scythe DH, Miracle rogue, frost dk, bdk
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there seems to be an issue where you want multiple packages but cannot fit them in
renathal might be worth it unironiccally
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i'm gonna see how this renathal list works out
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Hm 40 list is too inconsistent
But it gave me some ideas on which cards to not run in the 30 card list
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I really like the concept of dispose of evidence in this deck
Cheap removal that also allows you to shuffle big cards back into the deck
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And procs evoker
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I wonder if it's better to cut crushclaw for a 2nd abyssal depths
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Nah
Oh
Crushclaw
Yeah that card sucks
The treasureguard list is the best one
Dont have a picture
but this
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Astalor is the best card in hs
But try calamity grasp
Eyebeam
Security
Meta
Can play a random card if u don't like astalor
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yeah I know the power of astalor
just bored of seeing it
also I'm really liking the discover restriction to dk
the class is still powerfull but if you get over both frostwyrm breaths you reliably come out on top
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queen wraith
gotta love t2 dirty rat
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Its mega OP dude
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5 legendaries drafted in the first 20 cards
queen wraith
12-0 or bust
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Signature card
More rare than golden legendary
But cannot be crafted
So it's kind of an exclusive cosmetic
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Disenchanted a pretty strong legendary as well xD
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quaint aspen
theyre not even this week :?
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Thursday I think
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They moved heroic brawl next week due to balance patch this week
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sinful brand probably mana increase? 1dmg would make it useless
predation mana aswell prob?
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Maybe predation gets reduced to 1 mana
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evoker hopefully stats
does that even need a nerf
stenographer better get burried if its the only rogue card getting nerfed
quaint aspen
yeah actually most likely
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I'm not too happy with the nerf list besides brand tbh
They're nerfing the op classes sure
But those classes are interesting and diverse
I feel like meta will become more balanced but boring
Because the bad class decks are also fairly boring
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just scared miracle might go SS tier
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That's fair but I think agro keeps miracle in check atm
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Stenographer nerf should help
Stenographer is one of the best cards in the deck
Nerfing it should help
Making it 7 makes it harder to popoff
Making it smaller makes the swings way worse
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Maybe predation gets reduced to 1 mana
or can only target minions
chorus riff probably buffed to 2 mana. warrior is gonna be interesting
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We found an issue with Patch 26.2.2 that is expected to delay today’s patch and patch notes until tomorrow. We apologize for the delay.
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MAAAAAN
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It's whatever
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Go big or go home
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sanest druid player
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minalba living live at the angry chicken rank
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minalba living live at the angry chicken rank
You see some weird shit in classic
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we back
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My formal apologies
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inside job
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Queueing into the occasional control priest makes me happy that it's annear dead archetype
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yeah
xyrella is an insane card
im glad i never have to play against it
the 4 mana one
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queen wraith
Mutanus against mozaki mage 
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the amount of rng I went through to find a silence against a paladin
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Rokarra lowkey good tho
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she do be low key good
ppl in the vs discord are haters of her
shes good shes just not overpowered and no deck
ive played against it and i felt dead when they did it
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Slower control warr just isn't a thing
quaint aspen
its not super terrible its just bad, it kinda works against rogue
but then they discover the prime deathrattle and you still lose
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You don't need to outvalue rogue
I played a bit of control warrior this climb
You can just kill them with galvangar and rokarra
(also galv is so awesome as a card)
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the version with faceless or just galv?
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ah ok, I just swa some otk faceless galv version and one without him at all
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Yeah I think the non otk version is better
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was watching thijs yesterday playing it and his rogue opp discovered prime guy from swash, another one from the recon
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Galv is good without any duplication
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I was playing big stuff sort of
Kresh, saurfang, the rush pirate, yogg, mutanus
So deck had some board swings which could create lethality
Beating rogue was not an issue
And tbh
I believe that they could get away with not nerfing
But just buffing slow warrior decks
Because warrior actually crushes rogue
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hmm how the hell did you fit all that in
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Even early gnoll is not a big issue
I lost a lot versus other slower decks
Like ramp druid
Or shaman mutanus into parrots
Deck was heavy on cards tbh
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One of the sickest swashes
Swash into tamsins phylactery
And aegwynn from reconisaince
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this habugabu guy isnt having fun
his mmr is so big he has like 5min queue timers
and hes in gold lol
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Tfw your climb to legend is almost all golden cardbacks 😤
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i am just getting fucked by topdecks nonstop recently
paladin topdecks broom for his barov
fel DH topdecks imo after not using it on turn 4 vs beast druid
rogues topdecking scabs into passage
now my warlock opponent just topdecks soulrend
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this is what im losing to
from topdeck rend on 4
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so i play 5 different decks
15 games
EVERY Game i queue into slow control decks that instantly die to poison rogue
so i make poison rogue
queue 5 games
every game is face hunter
queen wraith
Swash into tamsins phylactery
Yea I had a game yesterday where the rogue discovered kargath from recon, and then got 2x tamsins phylactery on 4 minions and drew the primes one after another
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hearthstone just feels hella discouraging rn
i cant seem to get a steady win streak going with any deck rn without queuing into mega unfavourables
nothing is working for me
like idk man
im just negative winrate with everything rn
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Stick to one deck, you will pull through
You can passage turn 5 and swing the board tho
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Prep passage pog
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Yeah beast druid feels good
Probably steal the VS list tomorrow and go from there
The jdeg dude had a good list. Had the troggs in it
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Also this
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LOL
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played a DH who
topdecked kurtris on 6
topdecked skull on 7
skull discounted his performers
and then he topdecked the 2 mana card
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Good players always draw weapon on 3
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Twitter
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okay
nerf predictions
ZachO says
Flow to 4
Cloak to 4
Gnoll +1 mana
"Cloak gets nerfed because they dont want to nerf scabbs yet, even though they have to eventually"
i say scabs to 8 gnoll +1 mana flow to 4
and then they buff glory chaser
They also nerf pwar quest to 332
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Nerfing warr quest would be sad
It would be catering towards the stubbornness of ppl to refuse to learn and improve on their gameplay
You don't need to be a pro player to beat that deck with ease
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ye i agree
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ZachO says
Flow to 4
Cloak to 4
Gnoll +1 mana
I'd rather see scabbs nerfed than gnoll
Scabbs makes rogue good
Gnoll makes a fresh new archetype good
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The issue is that gnoll is crushing any board based deck right now
And also every deck has to be built to beat gnoll turn 2
Gnolls mulligan winrate is absurd
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There's more than gnoll crushing board based decks tho
I don't mind the explosive blowout, thief rogue having an extremely good late game to back it up is what makes it scary
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The problem is that cards like gnoll are denying any early game board deck from existing rn
If your goal is to play minions early gnoll instantly wins
It's like fwa from before
Dr dh, pitate warrior face hunter taunt druid are all instantly dead whenever gnoll is played
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You nerf scabbs, slower decks rise, thief rogue declines in playrates and so does it's counter - handlock.
Board based meta is looking much more realistic
I think with a scabbs nerf beast druid could potentially creep up
Gnoll should remain untouched
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warlock barely has a playrate
quaint aspen
I mean that logic doesnt seem to work
when thief rogue has 25% playrate and lock is still under 5
quaint aspen
yeah, so nerfing thief rogue isnt really going to affect its playrate
by any huge margin
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Well warlock isnt played because flow and shank
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If you hit scabbs
Poison rogue is gonna feel it
Flow needs a nerf as well
And mage needs an overhaul
quaint aspen
well depends on the nerf for poison atleast
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Scabbs to 8 will really hurt rogue
But I think cloak should get nerfed
2 copies of it
4 mana is a lot of mana that poison rogue can't afford
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I don't think that archetype in HS should be tier 1 or even tier 2
The play style is toxic
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its just a little bit of rock paper scissors meta for some of these matchups
its not the first time
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but yeah if they would nerf cloak flow scabss same time
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Poison and mozaki can be nuked from the meta as far as I'm concerned
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it would almost be like we would enter a new xpac
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Thief rogue should stay powerful tho
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I mean you cant be serious
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So you don't touch gnoll
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are you really that biased because you play it
a deck having 25% playrate at high legend isnt good for the game
and usually those decks were obliterated
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Hitting both gnoll and scabbs will make it really weak
And then we're back to playing quest rogue
Hurray
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well I prefer that to how it currently is
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Nah I play many decks
quaint aspen
you always have garrote
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Yeah I think if the options are turn 2 gnoll and a dead deck
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And tbh
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Maybe it's gotta go
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I just dont see how they can nerf stuff and gnoll isnt touched
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Because turn 2 gnoll is a bit much for board decks rn
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Thief rogue is the least frustrating tyrant I ever faced
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even if its only 1 hp
yeah alot of the other nerfs probably just kill the deck
but turn 2 4/5 rush while cycling
isnt fun
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2 gnoll is a rare occurrence
And playing passage on 1 almost always is a misplay, you just sometimes get rewarded with a double highroll
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and the thief mirror is so disgusting
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yeah thats true but sometimes youve just lost turn 4
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No?
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do I really have to look for replays where they draw agent both gnolls and you get either
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Plunder makes it fairly ok to comeback
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youre 15 turn4 you might aswell concede
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Unless you draw exceptionally shit it's pretty dumb
Both decks are able to build giant boards and remove giant boards
And cycle
So the first 6 turns is just making a board, it dying, and then doing that back to them
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I really need to start recording replays to show you how you can comeback with a bad hand vs early agents and gnolls
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And then you get scams off with recon primes and wandthief
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All my mirror games past week went into the long game
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the other 22 are useless first 4 turns
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when they get the wep discount on passage or reconn
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Reconisaince is also an interesting option to draw early
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but yeah I know it goes back and forth alot but like I said I just dont like mirrors where you can also just be dead turn 4-5
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I mean that type of mirror existed for other aggressive decks as well lol
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because even if you deal with half of their board if they have 1 or 2 steps youre back to square one
and then if you dont have plundered step its just done
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Face hunter blowing out the other face hunter because of bad draw
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I mean yeah im not trping out anything that you dont know
its the 25% playrate that worries me
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To be fair, outside of being really strong
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mirror matches have historically been some of the worst stuff in hs
outside of a few exceptions
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yeah I get that alot of people share that sentiment
I personally dont but tbh I didnt play the deck that much
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Don't think I ever minded mirrors, and thief rogue is a fun mirror for me
Deck is fun because it feels like you can take about 5 different paths every game
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I saw thijs is on over 100 games with it in like 3 days
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Which also makes it strong
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it just reminds me of naxx hunter
ok blast from the past
and I guess naxx hunter was way stronger than this deck
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Yeah thijs said he enjoys the deck a lot even after 100+ games
Idk about naxx hunter
It was op
But to a different degree
The real frustration there was
Not nerfing it for the longest time
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but just remember quest mage got nerfed
and it was shit, it just had insane playrate and was considered unfun to play against
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"hey let's just wait for gvg to release"
An expansion with lot's of good deathrattles
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thief rogue isnt the 2nd part atleast just the playrate is probably not what blizz wants
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yeah its like wow, mage hero class
cant over do it for the most played class
people will buy less packs
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Well the mage quest was done extremely well in terms of class flavor
Representing all 3 specs
So if you play mage, shuffling 3 schools of magic spells for a reward is a really cool concept
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just remember rod got nerfed twice and it wasnt that long of a span 😄
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I don't think they ever nerf in terms of pack sales tho
That sounds far fetched
I think they didn't hit flow cause
It kills the entire class without mercy
But that's a fundamental problem they need to solve
Core rotation might help with that
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yeah
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Also can they rotate Seline out of priest
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return of frostbolt!
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And give the class an actual legendary
Seline has been useless since her inception
- not a cool legendary
Velen wasn't in every deck but he sure as hell was cool
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yeah the priest classic set always had alot of issues
the decks just didnt change between expansions at all almost lol
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They gave priest a silence spell and 0 silence support 💀
quaint aspen
then nerfing and unnerfing their cards
but also fuck priest, dont play that unless its shadow
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Yeah
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I remember farming golden priest in secret pala meta that was a fun time
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Current versions of control priest belong in the dumpster
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thank god they made arena wins counts for portraits
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If control priest returned to something like witchwood
That would be incredible
That was the best iteration of control priest
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my long term memory for these t hings is very bad I dont really remember old metas
especially because I also play mtg
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Lemme see if I cam find a list
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btw do you think poison rogue should play 3 weps or just the 2 shanks
the 2 shanks is more common right?
I just want to play dh 
make it happen blizz
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Never played poison rogue so cannot say
But yeah a list looked something like this
You won with shadowreaper + mindblast
But it was never on the powerlevel of razakus damage potential
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ohh I see
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And this was a perfect priest fantasy
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Where you used light to heal and defend yourself
But finished the game off with shadow stuff
Razakus was
Really cool
Op but cool
Razakus also existed in a mega high powerlevel meta which was kobolds and catacombs
So other decks could pull their extremely powerful plays
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man fuck wand theif and swash
done with these bozo fucking cards
actually just too many cards to bother playing around
mask, brain freeze, fire sale, combustion, runed orb, fireball, rune
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scabs has gotta go dude
this card is fucking nonsense
im so fucking sick of this card
literally no way to pressure rogue other than them drawing poorly
you go small, they beat you with gnolls and plunderer
you go tall, they instant kill it with gnoll and plunderer
you go wide you get scab
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guy just simping
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yeah ive only played druid and poison rogue this month
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You fucker
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this is the beast druid perfect 30
mulv/ram are just flex
ram/ctm/mulverick/lunar
are the replacements imo
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queen wraith
Is that graveyard obj too?
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ofc it is
his swash gave him it
(:
and then this is my next game
coin dagger into deadly deadly prep silverleaf cutting class cutting class into paralytic
pretty powerful
what a fun game of HS for my opponent
i made sure to rope every turn after that hand
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this druid deck is just bad
you actually just do nothing unless you draw composting
and even if you draw composting, you need to actually get your minions otherwise you just literally AFK
all these "stick a board for 1 turn" druid decks i actually just can never get my payoffs i feel
idk hearthstone is just not fun rn
at all
no deck is working
perma scammed
bad matchups
just
ugh
its just not fun
like i queue all day as beast druid and i just queue into composting arbor up hands where i have like, guidance, elune, composting just afk for 5 turns
and then i try to queue burgle rogue
first time of the expac with the perfect 30
and i queue into 5 quest warlocks in a row
like
i legit dont know what to do
i feel like a terrible player
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that mirror jsut feels so bad
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yeah but im just perma losing with every deck which just sucks
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perma tilting 😔
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spicy chicken sandwich 😋
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burger rogue
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I think notetakers are better than sloggers in quest shaman
I know vs mentioned they prefered sloggers but
it's ok vs rogue and much better vs druid and warlock
notetaker into charged call 
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i played 5 rogues in a row with that deck and didnt draw flame so i havent played it since
just been losing w/ beast druid
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flame can be iffy
rogues playing around it pretty well
I do like flame when the rogue scabbs tho
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well they just play panda gnoll so i need flame or i die
and i was just doing the not drawing flame and dying part
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Serpentshrine and lightning bolt can contest early
Sometimes you tempo a charged call on 6
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yeah i wasnt drawing those cards either
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It's not an easy matchup but man it feels so rewarding when you win
Especially charged calling after their scabbs
And you know that you win from there
(unless they got Najak shadowstep)
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ye
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roguestone too hard
im 70% wr with poison and im just pressing random buttons half the time
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well im bad and also yeah roguestone
this beast druid has to get figured out faster
almost 
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doing decentish with handlock now
16-10
it doesnt even feel like im queuing into rogues
but apparently its 41% of my matches lol
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There's a hybrid rogue deck
Gnolls and maestra + poison stuff
Weapon Rogue
Class: Rogue
Format: Standard
Year of the Gryphon
2x (1) Blackwater Cutlass
2x (1) Deadly Poison
2x (1) Paralytic Poison
2x (1) Secret Passage
1x (1) SI:7 Extortion
1x (1) Sinister Strike
2x (2) Garrote
1x (2) Maestra of the Masquerade
2x (2) Silverleaf Poison
2x (2) Swindle
2x (2) Wicked Stab (Rank 1)
2x (3) Cloak of Shadows
1x (3) Rustrot Viper
2x (3) Swinetusk Shank
1x (4) Guild Trader
2x (5) Cutting Class
2x (5) Wildpaw Gnoll
1x (7) Shadowcrafter Scabbs
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To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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i know its basically a circlejerk comment
remember how they said "we are removing charge because it leads to uninteractive games, especially on stuff that is cheap"
and then they made MR smite, which works with edwin
___>
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Smite ain't cheap bucko
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it is when you have 12 mana
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Eh idk I wouldn't underestimate rokara
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rokara is alright
just no deck
but like even if rokara is alright
how is vanish panthers overgrowth for crystals a real card for 7 mana
and rokara gets a good weapon for 7 and NOTHING else lmao
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You can ask the same about cariel lol
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i mean yeah
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Or tamsin
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i mean yeah
i agree with all of those LOL
tamsin is a fucking nonsense card
i just play it on 6 every game as handlock
burn 2 cards
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i used it vs a quest shaman to deal 30 to him
queen wraith
I feel like a 5/2 weapon just doesn't fit well with what rokara seems like the type of deck it should be in either
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Instead i just be more reckless with ky 2nd backfire
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imagine rush warrior with rokara on the top end for example
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And use tamsin as the post quest finisher to draw 3
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rokara is a scary hero card in an "aggro not pirate warrior"
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Rush warrior was doing pretty ok before alterac
Just nobody played it
Because rush warrior is a boring concept
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like imagine your on turn 6 or whatever, your against druid, they clear and you equip rokara
what does a ramp druid do from there
they develop their ramp minions you just throw it into their head
rokara is good it just has no deck
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Pull a win with yogg like they always do 😁
I've been yogged this week too many times
Druid is just losing and pulls out a win with yogg
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i played against yogg which filled the board with rush
it made samuro
he double ironbarked it
i left
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Yeah, good thing yogg rotates soon
I don't think it's good for yogg to be a meta card
Just like the old yogg
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I do think it's cool to see yshaarj be viable tho
That's an awesome finisher
Probably the best designed old god
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Wasn't cthun druid decent
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How is cubelock not in the first image
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Idk if you can call cubelock a combo deck
It was a thing of it's own
Hard to classify
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The greatest deck ever
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I like how beast druid plays its just full of bad cards tho
And it's so hard to find replacement
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It lacks cards yeah
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I ain't crafting gidra
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U want squirrels
And then it's just I think ram + lunar
And I think that's what u want
Beast
Class: Druid
Format: Standard
Year of the Gryphon
2x (1) Adorable Infestation
2x (1) Druid of the Reef
2x (1) Irondeep Trogg
2x (1) Nature Studies
2x (1) Vibrant Squirrel
2x (2) Composting
2x (2) Lunar Eclipse
2x (2) Moonlit Guidance
2x (2) Ram Commander
2x (2) Thorngrowth Sentries
2x (3) Frostwolf Kennels
2x (3) Oracle of Elune
2x (5) Arbor Up
2x (7) Frostsaber Matriarch
2x (7) Umbral Owl
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signal edge
Why trogg?
shell thunder
You want stuff for composting and arbor up
That's the only reason
Makes your opponents turns awkward
Like against rogue, you trogg,now they can't coin swindle/passage into stuff
I played it VS shaman, they bloom caverned I won on turn 5
Trogg is just buff bait
Peasant is also bait in this deck
shell thunder
Well yes
But even just coin wandthief swindle
It just blocks their plays
It's either that or peasant and peasant statistically is a weak card
signal edge
I mean rogue is not that desperate and can just wait turn 1 or 2 for gnoll/ extort/ weapon
But I can see it's value over peasant
shell thunder
Slowing the rogue down so you can owl them is what you want
If your 1 drop is stalling development for a turn that's all it needs to do
It's like peasant except it works better with composting and arbor up
Forces an answer, slows development
signal edge
Yeah but it's still sadly a mediocre card
Thief rogue is so insane, i cleared a druids board which consisted of 6 matriarchs and oracle of elune even before scabbs dropped
There was no way he was gonna win after that
shell thunder
It's insanity how efficient rogue is rn
Passage is actually bonkers in that deck
It always draws you 5 cards
You almost always are doing 1/0 mana, draw and play 4 cards, and draw another 4
signal edge
I just want poison rogue gone 😔
signal edge
Scabbs at 8 might be detrimental already
shell thunder
Every rogue still plays scabs at 8
signal edge
When playing slower decks I've found that turn 7 tends to be the turning point where you deal with the rogues momentum and then they drop scabbs
That 1 extra turn is extremely impactful
Passage into scabbs is also extremely slower
But man
Poison rogue being able to run a viper to destroy cariels weapon or bulwark is just 😤
As if cloak of shadows hiding wasn't enough frustration
shell thunder
Lmao
signal edge
Yeah I've seen quest mozaki
And one thief rogue at top legend runs viper
Which is kinda cringe
shell thunder
For discovers or for mutanus protection
signal edge
I don't like tech card inclusions in general unless you desperately need them
Viper doesn't improve the poison rogue matchup
And is mega niche vs libram paladin
What's the flex slot?
I don't think we take out a 2nd prep
quaint aspen
swashburglar isnt good in the mirror
signal edge
What does viper do in the mirror better?
Swash is pretty great at activating interactions on the early turns
And not shabby in the lategame
It's also a great activator for plunderer
It also discounts gnoll so in many cases you get +1+1 in a turn with an extra card
Outside of the burgled card quality, swash does a lot of things for the deck
signal edge
Yeah but viper does nothing in a thief rogue mirror
queen wraith
It never is a good keep though
signal edge
You never keep swash
queen wraith
You mulli for gnolls and tradeables
quaint aspen
yeah vipe isnt better I mean not sure wehy it bother you that much that people play it lmao
its not like you play 30 cards every game to win
queen wraith
If anything I'd trade an extortion out, since you're at least matching tradeable for tradeable
signal edge
Yeah you only tend to play 27-28 cards of your deck
quaint aspen
I want scabs at 9 mana
at 9 I think its just dead
signal edge
Yeah I'd rather swap an extort for a flex card than swash
quaint aspen
but yeah if mozaki mages run viper its gotta be atleast 3x better to run it in thief
queen wraith
It could since poison is it's worst matchup
quaint aspen
it prolly makes the matchup from 5% to 10% 
shell thunder
at 9 I think its just dead
Good
Fuck vanish with advantage with mana
Rogue doesn't need this shit
quaint aspen
shell thunder
Rogue is the last class in HS I want to have a hero power that let's shit cost even less
signal edge
Yeah no extortions
shell thunder
Those would be the flex spots ig
queen wraith
Poison isn't even that bad of a matchup for thief though
shell thunder
Viper doesn't even stop u from dying
signal edge
And you can deal with cariel
shell thunder
U need viper on 3 or 4 otherwise it's useless
signal edge
Also fun fact, you can brick your opponents turns with scabbs hero power + coldarra drake
queen wraith
They fixed that
signal edge
My friend spammed the hero power so hard that the turn ended on my screen 5 minutes after the game was over
Oh did they
queen wraith
Yea in the recent patch
signal edge
I experienced this 2 days ago
quaint aspen
on mobile?
queen wraith
Or maybe it's a planned push
signal edge
I was on mobile, friend on pc
shell thunder
I wanna play some taunt druid again
Instant lose to rogue tho
Ppl are so bad at thief Rogue man it's crazy
The amount of full keeps I'm seeing where they go swash into recon is insane lol
shell thunder
Mulliganing the quest as handlock is actually op
Done it every time VS hunter and I've beat them
Not even playing alter of fire in my list
shell thunder
Alter exists for the fast matchups does it not?
Just to get bristle backs faster
That's the entire point I thought
signal edge
It has that use but primarily it tries to disrupt combos in hard to win matchups
shell thunder
Don't u just play neophyte for those
signal edge
Neophyte is another option yeah
You shuffle between those 2
But vs aggro soulrend does the job
shell thunder
Well hunter has burn which is the issue
U soulrend them and they just fireball your face every turn
signal edge
I think handlock teched into face hunter during stormwind
But I don't recall altar being the tech
shell thunder
Hm
Either way I like how flexible the deck is
Between alter neophyte little tamsin and fbe
signal edge
Yeah
Also flexible game plans
I played too much of that deck to enjoy it
Even if it's great rn
shell thunder
It's the only deck that's working for me rn so I'm chilling
It's a weird deck I like it
I think it's cool that burning cards doesn't really matter in the deck
Until ur against rogue and you soulrend and burn soulrend tamsin
signal edge
I honestly hope they don't dance around scabbs and nerf other stuff
shell thunder
I want gnoll cloak scabs nerfed
I feel that gnoll just suppresses all early game board strategies way too efficiently
Like pirate warrior, face hunter, quest rogue, taunt druid all just fall over to gnoll
Scabs is dumb, and you double nerf poison rogue to delete the deck from hs
signal edge
Quest rogue is well positioned in the meta
Pirate warrior is suppressed by every deck
Or should I say
By a half decent player
Taunt druid will fall to 10 other decks because control right now has ruthless early removal
Gnoll is the best early game killer but I think there's like 5 other board killers hiding behind it's shadow
So if you wanna see more board based decks, imo you're gonna need defensive nerfs across the board
shell thunder
I mean yeah removal in HS rn is at an insane level
Ive been saying that for awhile lol
signal edge
I will say
I wouldn't mind a control meta if it's the current control decks
Like
Bolner, quest shaman, handlock, ramp druid stuff
They're not lifedrain decks like control priest
And can play an aggro game
I find current control decks with wincons quite fascinating tbh
So many play patterns
shell thunder
Yeah
I mean even fel dh is cool
Like all the control decks in the meta are great
Bolner shaman quest warlock quest shaman ramp druid fel dh are all fantastic and feel very different
Than just "I play removal and life gain have fun"
Fel dh without lethality would be exactly that
signal edge
I dislike fel dh more and more simply because it's too reliant on 2 cards
Honestly
For the balance patch
They should nerf kurt
But
Buff many dh cards
shell thunder
I mean fel dh has always been omega reliant on like 4 cards
Skull Jace
Now it's skull Jace kurtris combo
signal edge
And from 1/6 to a 1/7
shell thunder
That both big dh and token dh have been pushed since launch and they all suck
Never been good
signal edge
Maybe we want a demon resurector for dh
Pulling demons back from the twisting nether
shell thunder
As am I
signal edge
Because we're again falling into the trap of one card reliability
shell thunder
I want more "if you have a 5+ cost demon in hand do x"
signal edge
Oooh I like that
shell thunder
A 3/8 with taunt is very good for 4 mana
Like idk
2 mana 2/3 lifesteal deal 2 damage if you have a demon that costs 5 or more
Just better early game options
signal edge
Something like duskbreaker
signal edge
No lifesteal
shell thunder
Was just about to say dusk breaker
shell thunder
Have u played dr dh
13 mana is literally infinite
You don't giant until like turn 8
It's so slow
shell thunder
Yeah
Oh fuck there is a miniset too
How could I forget
Owl beast druid support
What does the miniset even push
shell thunder
Shaggro
shell thunder
i am the unnluckiest player
i swear
yeah he won btw
fucking nether off swash
like actually dude
WHY IS THIS A DECK
im so fucking tired
of LOSING TO RANDOM
he was so bad too
he was like
hero power swindling
no combo
hero powering into passage
to -1 rather than -2
he revealed on turn 2 with no gnolls or pandas
fuck me man
omg manm
i jsut feel like such a shit player when my winrate is so bad
but like how am i to play around swash
shell thunder
@signal edge 
signal edge
Yeah that game didn't end well
shell thunder
signal edge
Need to improve my apm of that deck by quite a lot
