fuck flurry man
#Hearthstone
signal edge
Flurry was fine when freeze cards were scarce
signal edge
I mean I will never truly like freeze
But stormwind I could compromise
Now it's
Flurry into repeated blizzards
Into location
signal edge
Amplified is alright tho
shell thunder
its just redundancy
signal edge
And solid alibi on top just adds to the annoyance
shell thunder
almost forgot about that fun card for a second
signal edge
I don't think alibi is problematic by itself but when you add it with all the available freeze
It gets annoying
shell thunder
yeah
i mean im just not impressed with the last few balance patches
all the ones through stormwind felt pretty spot on
up until like, sunken city miniset
and probably the kazakusan meta quest rogue "nerf"
signal edge
I disliked the last 2 balance patches
shell thunder
yeah same
signal edge
Was pretty fine with the rest
shell thunder
this one is the deal breaker for me
signal edge
Deal breaker until next expansion that is
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But yeah I have faith the new balance guys come around
Rn I'll just shrug it off as inexperience from their part
vague moss
i hope they can give more buff to paladin
just like i am still using mechanic paladin to win the game
signal edge
Because when gallon came to balance his initial patches were meh as well
vague moss
and the light force and dirty hand? plays shit
signal edge
Eventually the devs got to balance really well
Pure paladin needs actual cards
Not a value generator
Dude paladin needs more dude cards
Current dude cards are pretty good
Just not enough
vague moss
at least it has a good performance in Wild
shell thunder
signal edge
Yes it performs well in wild because it has enough cards
vague moss
i am a HS noob so i can't give more idea about i still stuck in bronze but i am quite like to play slow deck
shell thunder
control shaman was fun 
signal edge
Yeah they kinda deleted one of the most interesting decks in the game
All because some droolers refused to play around it and just swarmed a full board and got punished for it
signal edge
I think they will hit theotar as well
shell thunder
this is still my guess
signal edge
I haven't check stats on him
signal edge
But I think theotar is a powerful disruption tool
That can be played on curve with very little consequence
Compare that to mutanus
Dropping him turn 7 can be a really risky turn
vague moss
cn ppl thought i might be change to steal a random card
instead of choosing by urself
signal edge
probably kael too
If they nerf Denny there's no reason to nerf kael
shell thunder
thats what u think
reddit thinks kael is broken with all the mage shit too
mord, kt
signal edge
I'll just consult kibler on nerfs
He was a card game developer afterall
"oh yeah let's nerf wildpaw gnoll"
shell thunder
oh yeah dude
fucking gnoll
gnoll is gonna get nerfed too
i saw some ppl in the vs discorsd saying that card was toxic
its doomed man
every playable card is toxic
needs to get nerfed
signal edge
Let's go back to the wet noodle meta of sunken city
vague moss
the only thing i do is to wait the new buff come
they said its going to release today
but it hasn't
shell thunder
signal edge
It was a tweet
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Twitter
vague moss
yea waiting for their sold
the priest one looks like a streamer in CN
most ppl like him
signal edge
I'll keep using kyrian tyrande
vague moss
l am waiting for the Zerilla
when will it sell again
my favourite skin is the Dark Zerilla and the Cat Illidan
signal edge
Probably not soon
undone furnace
As long as fucking mage gets nerfed idc
Mage has prolly one of the worst decks to play against EVER
Perma fucking frozen
vague moss
i play quest priest
its fun to against with mage
she just looking me finish my quest and healing myself
undone furnace
I mean u just lose to mage tho as quest priest more often than not cuz of their hero power scaling
shell thunder
vague moss
plz come new buff
quaint aspen
13hours!
signal edge
@shell thunder dude watching reqvam rage while playing boar priest is hilarious
shell thunder
It's so good dude
signal edge
"why would I play this deck and rely to draw when I can drool on the keyboard and win like my opponents?"
signal edge
dh might be playable now
thick crater
I'm still trying to figure out the point of printing kael'thas 2.0
thick crater
you can still bolner denathrius
shell thunder
Shaman though 
shell thunder
bro
Dev Comment: When we buff cards in underperforming classes, we rarely do it with the goal of immediately shooting the class to a 50% plus winrate. Our goal is to make the game more fun, something we can accomplish by bringing the class up to a level where players feel like there is something worth exploring. With the focus on high confidence changes in this patch, the change we were most confident we could give Paladin was something we’ve seen before—a reversion to a previous balance change.
i cant get over this comment
yeah man
+1 hp
really worth exploring for sure
i cant stand these fucking reasons they put now dude
"quest hunter is a frustrating deck to lose to"
what deck is fun to lose to
i see this every single set of balance changes
"x deck isnt fun to lose to"
no shit, its losing, losing sucks man
signal edge
I think nerfing quest hunter was a good move
It was potentially looking to be oppressively top tier
shell thunder
I mean that's a totally valid reason to nerf it
I just hate the framin of "feels bad to lose to 🤓"
signal edge
I think the pala buff comment made no sense but idk what you do to the class realistically when it lacks cards
shell thunder
every class in the game is in that postion
im just actually stunned they couldnt manage to make 3 of the 10 classes playable in any capacity over the duration of an entire expansion
signal edge
Warrior did do from 30% to like 45% thanks to the buffs
shell thunder
on day 1
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Dh also was not that far from playable
signal edge
on day 1
No zacho mentioned this in the recent podcast
How winrate actually increased over time
But lack of card draw makes it really hard to do anything after the initial blowout
rocky vale
shell thunder
signal edge
It was an honor having him as a dev for hs
vague moss
yea iskar did a lots of great things
signal edge
He's been streami on and off for a while now
Keeping a low profile because of the stuff that happened
signal edge
I cannot seem to remember what he did
shell thunder
pretty sure he was just abusive in his relationship
vague moss
control shaman is still powerful even it lost snowfall
shell thunder
okay fel relic DH
so fuckingg ood
actually good deck
this is how u abuse relics
is jace
not the shitty denathrius stuff
look at these wins
vague moss
i don't have any dh card
hardly see relic dh in asia server but its fun
multiple mechanic
signal edge
Yeah I am playing fel relic dh as well but VS doesn't seem to mention it
shell thunder
he says the banter list is erally good in the p2w channels
cut starfish for okani
Felics
Class: Demonhunter
Format: Standard
Year of the Hydra
2x (1) Fury (Rank 1)
2x (1) Relic of Extinction
2x (1) Sigil of Alacrity
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2x (2) Relic Vault
1x (3) Aldrachi Warblades
1x (3) Brann Bronzebeard
1x (3) Lady S'theno
2x (3) Predation
2x (3) Relic of Phantasms
2x (3) Venomous Scorpid
1x (4) Blademaster Okani
2x (4) School Teacher
2x (5) Relic of Dimensions
1x (6) Kurtrus, Demon-Render
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1x (8) Artificer Xy'mox
1x (8) Jace Darkweaver
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shell thunder
vague moss
druid has too many "draw" card
rocky vale
curse imp lock lowkey bussin
signal edge
Yeah it's also a very cool deck
shell thunder
eh?
feels like a pretty average miniset
aggro dh got a big boost
shit warrior decks got a big boost, but idk if to a playable level yet
pal;adin actually got insane cards
poket for just every paladin deck ever, and for pure its huge too
pokelt into light ray light ray cariel countess/levithan
seems fucking brutal to deal with
shell thunder
bro LMFAO
feno "give halkias charge, hell yeah"
👍
rogue cards are so bad
they ahve to giga buff secret rogue dude
and secret mage
they always get super juiced
signal edge
Ngl the meta before the miniset jas been really good
Hopefully miniset doesn't throw too much balance out of the window
shell thunder
dude i actually dont think i care about any of these miniset cards
its legit just the DH ones
its like
control pala support
control warrior support
control priest support
and then just a bunch of random shit that goes nowhere
signal edge
Dude pala support 😎
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jailer moment!
shell thunder
thats such a smart combo
order in the court to get
jailer, cariel, and then ur deck is empty so u get reno
signal edge
gigachad move
signal edge
does mass poly break immune?
shell thunder
well no
because the immune is an aura effect
itll transform the minions into sheeps, but the sheeps will be immune
signal edge
OH
shell thunder
the only cards are like brawl, nether, clean the scenes, whirlpool
gigafin
all targeted shit doesnt work
nether is an irrelevant meta card
so like meta relevant cards are brawl clean the scenes whirlpool gigafin
shell thunder
bunny just killed a warrior
like brawl clears a board but it doesnt... solve the problem
vague moss
new mini set gives shaman nothing
queen wraith
secret mage is so bad but rolling objection multiple times off of orion is hilarious
shell thunder
rocky vale
Seems balanced 
signal edge
Juicy pack
queen wraith
nohands found the list
this list is actually the nuts holy
i've been playing with it and it's so fun
shell thunder
Secrets just end it
signal edge
Secrets don't beat hunter
shell thunder
nothing beats hunter
signal edge
Maybe thief priest
shell thunder
okay so this miniset sucks
bt enrage warrior
actually good now
im like 14/2
xdd
signal edge
The struggle against hunter is still there for warr
shell thunder
Yeah he's cozy
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Hunter slayin
shell thunder
not surprising
miniset had no impact on the format
so the best deck before, is the best deck now
signal edge
Miniset did really help paladin tho
I think the 2 drop spell might have some really interesting implications in the future
shell thunder
it helped paladin yes, but it did nothing to the actual format
like what actually changed with the miniset lmao
paladin is still not good enough, its better, but still not great
same goes for warrior
same goes for rogue
rogue didnt even get anything though xdd
signal edge
Control paladin is good as long as you don't run the jailer variant
But yeah the emphasis on secrets did fuck rogue
(warrior after hunter nerfs should be much better)
thick crater
I would love for them to buff stenographer to 5 mana but it probably won't happen
signal edge
I think they should never print rogue secrets again tbh
Failed archetype and if it's viable it's very frustrating gameplay
shell thunder
thats all the secrets
but i like secrets
blizzard is just legit 5 iq when it comes to designing modern secret payoffs
hanar is a good card
signal edge
I don't mind them on mage
shell thunder
theres no fucking world halkias is even close to power
or digger compared to stunner
they just are braindead
and made a dogshit set
signal edge
Rogue needs a good set of it's looking super grim after rotation
thick crater
yeah even zacho made this point in recent podcast by saying that secrets are unfun to play unless they are completely busted and then they are played
signal edge
Just look at sunken city and nathria
shell thunder
i mean yeah the devs are just clueless
idk what happened from sunken city onward
but the ball has been totally dropped in regards to the balance department
i still cannot belive edwin got buffed
signal edge
Nathria is a pretty good set
shell thunder
i mean is it?
signal edge
Yeah I think infuse is related good
shell thunder
DH was unplayable, warrior was unplayable, paladin was unplayable, rogue was mostly unplayable
4 of the 10 classes were not viable
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The issues with those is incomplete archetypes
thick crater
renathal ruined narthia 
shell thunder
well yeah... thats the devs fault
signal edge
But incomplete archetypes has been an issue for years
shell thunder
why push archtypes when they arent finished
signal edge
I agree I think minisets should be used more to shore stuff up
Which this set partially did
shell thunder
i mean yeah the miniset as well
the miniset was fucking awful
like what on earth are they doing with that rogue card
or any of the warlock cards
like i get the always doomposting about games but holy fuck man
signal edge
Sylv is pretty solid
shell thunder
just the balance paradigm and just overall shitty deck quality is just so fucking boring
signal edge
Jailer is a card worth watching out for
Dunno I think pre- miniset meta was dope
It's just that miniset didn't change anything
And gave hunter strong cards in an untimely manner
At least ppl can now stop complaining how control hunter is not a thing 🙂
thick crater
isn't beast hunter midrange?
shell thunder
i mean idk
the decks i wanted to play this expansion were all flops
so i hate it
signal edge
Play aggro druid
If you want board based
I have a hunch that with hunter nerfs you will see enrage warr and aggro dh pop off as well
shell thunder
well no i wanted to play enrage warrior, secret mage, secret rogue, aggro dh, and relic dh
1 of these is playble
I dont look at this expansion and say "oh my god im so excited to play a renathal pile"
signal edge
Relic dh is playable
shell thunder
which is basically all this miniset gave
yeah relic DH is now
its the 1 single deck thats fun for me rn
shell thunder
ye
signal edge
But the fast one
shell thunder
the dan list sucks
thick crater
yes please
signal edge
I applaud the devs for a bald idea like renathal but I don't wanna see him in standard for 2 years
signal edge
Also it might be worth exploring burn shaman with the new infuse spell
4 totems into bioluminescence
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😔
shell thunder
It's just going to 5
Idk how anybody thinks more than that's happening
When's the last time a card has gotten a 2 mana nerf at once
Seems about right
I expect the miniset to continue to see very limited play
signal edge
they could nuke theo to 7 mana
shell thunder
(they won't)
queen wraith
When's the last time a card has gotten a 2 mana nerf at once
kaelthas went from 6 to 8
so super recently
queen wraith
yea i agree, that was a niche change so brann+kt isn't a thing, but still an example 😛
shell thunder
ye fax
i legit just forgot they did that lol
i want 10 mana theotar
but im only expecting 5
queen wraith
i guess it really depends on how drastically blizz responds to the negative perspective but yea that's a much more reasonable nerf than 6 5/5
or any other nerf
quaint aspen
its probably gonna be 5 mana
otherwise it would be weird it wasnt nerfed last time and now nerfed by alot more
or well I guess with more stats it could go 6mana yeah, they just do weird changes alot thesedays
but atleast its more frequent patch balances which is good
shell thunder
signal edge
Is this j alex?
shell thunder
yeh
signal edge
Plaguemaw buff sounds awesome
Only buff I'd be against here is perpetual flame
Like it's super strong at 2 mana
1 mana flame sounds very oppressive
shell thunder
i mean good give quest shaman something
its got nothing, and other shaman decks never play it
it used to be 1 and saw 0 play
let it be this giga premium tempo tool for quest shaman again
signal edge
That's because quest shaman needs lightning bloom
signal edge
I've tried making it work but without bloom you are so slow
signal edge
And honestly your hand size is often not big so theotar can easily yoink your good cards
I did like his idea of unnerfing the quest itself tho
I miss playing quest shaman
Also
Bolner shaman
2 beautiful decks
shell thunder
yeah man
the format needs cool shit
the fact denathrius is the most common complained about win condition should be an eye opener to people
lol
shell thunder
so do i
signal edge
Game needs more denathriuses and jaces
shell thunder
i just think theres no lethality in the format, so denathrius is super good lol
signal edge
Actually we have like 0 combo decks lmao
shell thunder
denathrius decks lose to anything in stormwind
signal edge
Yeah stormwind would be too lethal
Think devs listened too much to combo deck complainers
signal edge
Vs did a little poll on ppls favourite expansion
Stormwind was voted the 2nd highest
First one being frozen throne
But you get the point, a lot of ppl enjoyed stormwind
Control decks also existed, they just had to run a win condition
queen wraith
fastest tavern brawl completion in my life lol https://hsreplay.net/replay/i3ixsvwzpeD2tKUafuTo9R
shell thunder
im reading that jalex google doc post
the reddit thread that was posted
so many people seem to think that this format is "super powerful"
its weird the disconnect a lot of people have on the state of the game
not even saying that in a rude way
but so many people seem convinced that this standard format is "super strong" and a "victim of power creep"
and that cards like denathrius, and devourer are too strong lol
thick crater
denathrius already got indirectly nerfed though
shell thunder
lmfao yeah
rocky vale
Was frozen throne the one with all the death knight heroes that one was dope as fuck I loved it
signal edge
Yeah that's frozen throne
rocky vale
I feel like midrange stuff like that where you can go greedy and try and put in more control value/win cons is hella fun
The actual control matchups people have a problem with are stuff like warrior where it’s legit just armor / removal until you run out of cards
signal edge
Yeah problem is there's 0 combo decks and like 1 aggro deck
All other meta decks are renathal theotar denathrius package
With fel dh being the exception
queen wraith
KotFT was great except for raza priest being so good
rocky vale
It wasn’t even bis
Lock or mage was definitely better
Priest could just do really well in the grind game
shell thunder
KotFT was great except for raza priest being so good
that was the best part
shell thunder
i had all the op decks of that era
was a blast
jade druid, raza priest, cubelock
queen wraith
cubelock was a blast, loved that deck
rocky vale
Wild was crazy good then too since it was right before shit went full degen with giants or resurrect
Just the most insane raza nzoth priest control mirrors
shell thunder
signal edge
Dunno I think koft was a big Batchest expansion
The death knight cards ended up being very damaging in future metas
And first month of koft keta was druid dominance
To a point where best jade druid counter was the mirror
sacred pilot
What is that man
shell thunder
death knight location template
sacred pilot
That looks like Dragonflight professions ui
shell thunder
Zeddy recently got banned from future blizzard events for leaking
Which happened right after his video which was "speculating" that death knights were coming back to standard in 24.6
shell thunder
It's probably both
My guess is a doom in the tomb style event
That brings back death knights, along with synergy cards so like, skull + voidlord + guldan
To build hype for the upcoming dk expansion
They've hinted the expansion is "larger than normal"
There's a dk location placeholder
And iksar said "new classes could be every 2-3 years, and this expansion would be 2.5 years so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
signal edge
Maybe
shell thunder
shell thunder
nice decklist man
fucking viper, firesale, starfish, theotar big spell mage
just every tech card at once
shell thunder
i tried playing aggro decks and then i lost
because i queued into bunker sargeant 40 card rogue
and shamans who draw 2 schooling + gnoll muck pools
or mages running fire sale
actually the most fucking insane players at top 500
or i played against a rogue who full kept this
so he destroyed my entire board on turn 4lmfao with double gnoll off the top
quaint aspen
I also played fire sale on an empty board
shell thunder
was not a fun experience trying to make aggro work vs bunker sargant rogue and keeping sbs
quaint aspen
shell thunder
so yeah i just play felic dh because it instantly wins vs all these moron decks
fucking bunker sargent
shell thunder
think 1k is safe
quaint aspen
but yeah meta is all over the place
hectic, but better than hunter gaming
just bless priest even slightly more annoying now
shell thunder
its just the same meta as sunken city miniset post nerfs
just decks that are piles
now there are 3 different shitty aggro decks that die to 1 board clear in aggro druid enrage warrior and aggro dh which is cool
big spell mage good again
quaint aspen
its weird because mini set was so much faster than usually
shell thunder
naga priest good again
quaint aspen
so now were still like 50?ish days away from xpac
shell thunder
ye and the 24.6 event is suppose to be huge
considering they didnt mention renathal, nor okani, and those were fucking huge
and this one they specifically said "something big is coming"
and all the rumors and hints about DKs coming to the game
like as a new class
quaint aspen
yeah dunno a new class seem a little out of place almost
shell thunder
have u kept up will all the rumors or nah
signal edge
I don't think they should add a new class
When they struggle to maintain current ones
quaint aspen
yeah and it might set a weird precedent when then people will expect a new class every 2-3 years
signal edge
Aggro decks are pretty good atm
Just in terms of feel they are very feast or famine
Compared to something like stormwind taunt druid
shell thunder
basically iksar said "a new class should take around 2-3 years" this expansion is 2.5 years from DHs
they said this expansion is "the largest of the year"
there is placeholder art in the game files for a "death knight location"
somebody on twitter said they liked the card dark peddler, in which a game dev replied to it and said "yeah this card could use 1 more health i think"
and then theres been people who have leaked things in the past have made mention of "seeing the death knights playable"
signal edge
Which had hand reload
shell thunder
i mean i want to playt hese aggro decks but im not queuing these aggro decks into mororns playing all removal decks
i just have to play fel DH and kill them its the only thing i can do
signal edge
Fel dh is goated deck
shell thunder
like im literally queuing into doomsayer paladin
and doomsayer priest
and fucking bunker sargant rogue
quaint aspen
doomsayer pala sounds ok, wtf is doomsayer priest
shell thunder
like this is my pocket meta i have to just spam fel
lol
just dogshit removal priest
with renathal and no win con
signal edge
Probably thief priest
shell thunder
its just allr emoval
signal edge
Thief priest is basically an attrition deck
Just stall and yoink till opponent runs out of resources
Pretty sure the aggressive priest decks are the good ones tho
shell thunder
yeah imagine queuing enrage warrior into these moron decks
quaint aspen
yeah, havent watched alot of streams latetly just assumed it phased out when I mostly only watch super high legend in hs section
signal edge
And hope they don't draw the 1 mana board silence
shell thunder
retrog how do i beat 40 card thief rogues keeping double serrated bone spike
40 cards
keeping sbs
vs warrior
signal edge
Pray they draw bad and pray warrior gets reload next expansion
shell thunder
signal edge
I don't mind this meta tho
signal edge
Could use a couple combo decks in the mix
shell thunder
so this meta is no different realistically speaking
combo is giga dead
too many decks are just all in garbge with no reload
signal edge
Boar priest is ok
shell thunder
miracle rogue, bless priest, enrage warrior, aggro druid, aggro dh
all 5 of these decks are just "yeah i hope u dont have removal"
quaint aspen
boar priest is too high skill deck for 98% of hs playerbase
shell thunder
yeah
cba learning that
i just want like, handlock
i wanna play handlock again
and like, an aggro deck that doesnt instantly die to a board clear (that isnt implcok)
signal edge
Boar does have a favourable field atm
signal edge
Especially with implock being so popular
Thief rogue with 40 cards is an L tho
30 performs much more consistently
shell thunder
it was bad before the miniset
idk why itd be any different
ppl keep trying it every time idk why
its just bad
bro have u looked at rogues set this year btw so far
its actually i think the worst of any class by a lot
for standard ofc
signal edge
I think sunken city is hyperbad for rogue
Cn has some good cards
But secrets take up a big portion of the rogue set
And kinda do nothing
signal edge
Probably because good secrets cause a lot of frustration
shell thunder
then why bother printing them at all
shell thunder
i mean i disagree with ur assessment either way
signal edge
Playing against secret mage was not a good experience when it eas meta
shell thunder
i hate that there are loads of archtypes that just get dismissed as
"feels bad to lose to"
maybe im different but i feel no differnet losing to secrets as i do any other deck
signal edge
Zacho did point out one thing about secrets
If secret decks are suboptimal in power they are not popular
Compared to something like
Ramp druid being weak but being overplayed
shell thunder
well thats usually because the secrets decks when they are bad are so unplayable its not even funny
signal edge
Only time secret decks are popular is when they are good
signal edge
Thief rogue is also overplayed imo
(the 40 card list)
But seemingly some decks are just more fun to play and see play despite their winrate
rocky vale
I agree playing against secret decks is cancer
Mage right now with counterspell and counter minion is great lol
shell thunder
signal edge
It appears you tilted and didn't stop playing
shell thunder
i mean maybe a little but i was getting exceptionally fucked
i kept drawing unplayable aggro dh hands
double predations no nagas
aggro mirrors with my only expensive cards
topdecking rokara when on 6 mana
signal edge
Ok but no way you're losing that much with felic
quaint aspen
rage queue 
quaint aspen
feels like you post this every month almost
I guess you play alot of games so youre more likely to have stretches like that
but yeah just lookingthrew my stats
but im still above 50% wr over 100+ games
random sample from fel relic
quaint aspen
and like recently ive played big mage for first time climbing to legend
went 50% first 20games, then just won like 8 in a row
and the afk games on relic hurt the most from experience atleast
nothing worst than having both locations and the draw relic in bottom10
feels like youre playing a different deck all together
and everytime you queue into bless priest you just insta lose unless you have the turbo extinction nuts
shell thunder
yeah i played a game both location 0 relics in 24 cards
legit bottom 6
like i kept location
no relics from school teacher anything
sometimes u just get fucked by draws
🙃
especially with shitty aggro decks lmao
but sometimes this happens
the combatant was a 6/11 btw
fucking bunker sargant
quaint aspen
bunker sergeant just makes no sense tho lmao, just some guy overthinking it
quaint aspen
oh its a different game
shell thunder
yes 
quaint aspen
what does it even kill I dont get it
shell thunder
this is what i lost to as aggro dh
🙃
but yeah enrage warrior when it works it feels pretty strong
only matchup i lost was not renathal
🙃
signal edge
yeah i played a game both location 0 relics in 24 cards
Run Finley
signal edge
I mean even VS recommends it in their list
quaint aspen
they also have prosecutor in one list and okani in the topple one
explain that, their lists arent perfect
not a fan of finley in 30 version personally, but its only 1 card end of the day
quaint aspen
never said it wasnt, just seems weird to me that one list plays it and other one plays okani
signal edge
Finley in practice has been very valuable since you're fishing for relics
quaint aspen
yeah I get why its in the deck, but its never a keep so its just a weird countermeasure against bad draws
but you also have to draw him!
I guess every few dozen games you might have a game where he saves you from fatigue dmg
signal edge
The logic I could see vs okani is how it performs better in more defensive decks than it does in more offensive ones
But prosecutor being THE replacement is also questionable
quaint aspen
I guess they did write what classes each card is better against, then they just put 1 of them in each list for diversity
signal edge
They should probably put in both of them as flex cards
quaint aspen
Mel’Tranix shines against Rogues and Priests. Okani is most powerful against Hunters and Druids.
signal edge
In their lists
Rogue and priest is the field I'm facing mostly so meltranix is very fine for me
shell thunder
I think it's like
U have 2 slots
And u can run any combination of 4 u want
Finley, okani, maltranix and warblades
All are slightly better and worse in diff matchups
Maltranix is really good vs a lot of shitty renathal decks, especially with paladin getting more popular now
The topple version is more board reliant so okani helps with that to block removal and tempo swings
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Twitter
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fucking mage man
look at my hand though
blizzard spammed
weapon fucks it so hard
love it
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rocky vale
Wait is that ddosers I always assumed it was just people deranking on purpose lol
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rocky vale
signal edge
Won't look, wanna be surprised by what they reveal
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fucking awful
weary turtle
arcanus repeticus
queen wraith
https://clips.twitch.tv/EnthusiasticAlluringGarlicTheRinger-PMi1KynF1_qXikMF
He says as he plays a deck with 2x better ice block and a million freezes
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Burn mage
queen wraith
I mean, 2x snowflurry/flurry/alibi/location/cold case doesn't really scream aggression
weary turtle
Sounds like a lot of stalling to me
weary turtle
i hope there is a code for a diamond lich king when you get it
signal edge
https://twitter.com/Darkmechx/status/1586912747660640256?s=19
from what I know it's gonna be a pretty big event
weary turtle
yay
shell thunder
watch the strea
mthey are exlaining how it works
duno yet
when u build a deck, u select runes
and ur deck requires these runes slotted in to allow you to use them
so u cant play a 3 unholy gem spell if u have 3 blood gems slotted
thick crater
holy shit so much stuff is happening 
thick crater
I wouldn't say UI is a good card now
"necessarily good"
ramp druid plays a bit different now compared to the koft
but spreading plague
yeah that is busted
signal edge
If I may be sceptical
I think the new legendary hero skins might rince the mobile fps performance
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100%
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1k wins
weary turtle
the legendary hero skin is a brilliant idea but it looks so janky
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looks a bit out of place for the aethetics of HS
i really like the base DK art tho
looks very good
looks like canvas
weary turtle
alex horley never disappoints.
sacred pilot
weary turtle
oh
sacred pilot
From hearthstone YouTube
weary turtle
him...
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yeah man gotta get it blue for the LK
weary turtle
yeah it was expected.
sacred pilot
That’s crazy
weary turtle
it is but its normal for his hair to be crazy
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weary turtle
aight next class monk
sacred pilot
Yeah
weary turtle
Chi deckbuilding
weary turtle
nice you created timewarp
weary turtle
haha
sacred pilot
Oh shit
What if there was a card that
Skipped both players next turn for like 3 mana
weary turtle
Death Knight should have an easier time finding Legendaries that fit them than Demon Hunters.
sacred pilot
That would be craaaazy
sacred pilot
Death Knight should have an easier time finding Legendaries that fit them than D...
Yeah by far
shell thunder
para wouldnt do that either lol
weary turtle
like last guy was Xy'mox and has nothing to do with Demon Hunters
sacred pilot
https://giant.gfycat.com/DesertedDefiniteIcelandicsheepdog.mp4
Lmaooooo
weary turtle
but i love Xy'Mox
sacred pilot
Yeah
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and all the other classes had shit done already
weary turtle
sire deanthrius' private collection
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so it went to dhs lol
weary turtle
mage.
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Literally all of the scourge generals
weary turtle
also p much gonna be mage again if they visit DF
sacred pilot
Damn near shadowmourne could be a legendary
weary turtle
Scourgelord Garrosh
it can be a standalone card tho
wake up babe, new mutanus just dropped
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Brann patchwerk
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omega toxic card
Frost dk spell is worse
weary turtle
mutanus is perfectly a fine card imo
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this is way better than mutanus
way way way better
this has board impact as well
weary turtle
theotar literally was an example of why blizz was way too comfortable with distruption
quaint aspen
what is this new card rarity that you cant craft
sacred pilot
It’s not way way better than mutants
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what is this new card rarity that you cant craft
it shows the full card art
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It’s not way way better than mutants
yes it is
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It has waaaay less presence on board / stats
quaint aspen
no I mean some 18 cards that you cant craft?
sacred pilot
Like it’s better than mutants but
weary turtle
its good that theo got nerfed, card was easily busted and caused little to no tempo loss.
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but it kills a minion on board
its just better lol
mutanus cant be played from behind
quaint aspen
theotar nerf didnt do anything, same decks that played it still play it
shell thunder
this can be
well yeah but the card is way worse
and a lot of decks have cut it
or should anyway
weary turtle
card is way worse
quaint aspen
like what deck
weary turtle
paying 5 mana for a 3/3 sucks
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big spell mage doesnt
sacred pilot
like what deck
Mage
weary turtle
besides, renathal is probably getting nerfed next but we will see
shell thunder
they should never nerf theo just rotate him early
weary turtle
its wild's problem now
quaint aspen
40 card mage surely still plays theo or
shell thunder
a lot of ppl might still be playing it but its really bad in stats
thats the general vibe of theotar lol
sure, the same decks still play him, but those decks got worse because they are running a 5 mana 3/3
weary turtle
theo can still ruin people's days
weary turtle
but paying 5 mana for a 3/3 is a massive hemorage on tempo
you are better off paying for a chillwind yeti
quaint aspen
you talk tempo like youre supposed to play theo on 5 everytime
if anything id say its more dependant on what the top decks are if you play theo or not
shell thunder
i mean mana nerfs always matter right lol
it makes bran theotar slower
its harder to steal cards like, nourish, or guff
its hard to spend mana on theotar, while also doing other stuff on the same turn
etc
weary turtle
i think i should probably, burn through some Nathria packs to refind theotar for my LPG mage
quaint aspen
I get all of that its not like im hardstuck plat, but people seemed to think the nerf didnt matter that much 1-2weeks after it happened
weary turtle
but i think i need mordresh atm
quaint aspen
so what changed since then
shell thunder
data happened
the same thing that happens with every mana nerf that happens in hs history
"this nerf does nothing, see , ill playt he card and do well still"
and then the data comes out and proves that in fact, a 1 mana nerf does matter
weary turtle
yo real talk whos gonna play keleseth in standard rn
i wanna see a comeback from the lad
keleseth, ShadowStep Shadowstep turn 2 pogs
weary turtle
i am making a Dead Man's Hand warrior like in the old days
quaint aspen
what data are you talking about fg
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spreading plague is p good lol
weary turtle
also Rotface is so dogwater
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uh hsr and vs
weary turtle
dont use him in enrage
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the last 3?
quaint aspen
maybe in 1-2 decks a week