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vocal pagoda Oct 25, 2021, 6:40 PM

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brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:40 PM

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Thanks @vocal pagoda

vocal pagoda Oct 25, 2021, 6:40 PM

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np

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if you need any help @meager ore lemme know but you probably got this whispyrheart

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:41 PM

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Okay so some super basic things.
You’re doing a bit of energy and CP waste on here.

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Roughly 1/6 of your energy is wasted here. Which means less builders + finishers to send to the boss and adds.

You also had 20 unforced wasted CP, which is a loss of four finishers as well.

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You also have low uptime on garrote + rupture as shown below:

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brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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Okay - does this mean just my stamina bar is full but I'm not building CP?

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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The 84.03/83.51 is your uptime

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:43 PM

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brave surge Okay - does this mean just my stamina bar is full but I'm not building CP?

On the waste area, it means your bar is full but you’re not spending it

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Ah okay, so if i'm like running a trap but at full stamina that would be waste, got it.

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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There are windows where you’ll not be able to, as chains and dance happen

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But with it that high, it seems to be a gameplay issue as well -

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:44 PM

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Totally is i'm sure

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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That’s the first bit, let me go in a bit more to check sequencing. You also missed a flag cast. I see from your casts that you lined up all your flag+vanish+vendettas

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Also, if i'm rupturing early because say dance is about to come up, I just re-apply even if it's at like 20 seconds left, that's waste too right?

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:45 PM

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Vanish+ vendetta is good to sync

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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brave surge Also, if i'm rupturing early because say dance is about to come up, I just re-ap...

That’s a wasted finisher, remember, you can hit the boss as you’re running

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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Gotcha - okay cool

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Like an envenom instead ok

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:46 PM

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Yes -

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You don’t want to cast rupture before your pandemic window

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Pandemic meaning the 30% that goes onto the next one? My weakaure I think glows but I wasn't sure what it was called

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:48 PM

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brave surge Pandemic meaning the 30% that goes onto the next one? My weakaure I think glows ...

Yes

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Okay good to know

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:49 PM

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You’re opener is a bit scuffed. Here’s how it would normally go.
Mut > SnD > pot > Mut > Garrote > flag > rupture > vendetta> shiv > vanish > Mut >(if at 4 or 5) >envenom > Mut

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:49 PM

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I'm curious how I am wasting that much energy. I'll have to record and watch it back. I feel like i'm always starved.

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Pot?

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I think I was using icy-veins opener so this is good to know i'll practice this one

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:52 PM

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Potion

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Wait hold

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You’re not even using potions :0

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:54 PM

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Oops... lol I use flasks and sharp stones?

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:54 PM

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So for raid a few checks you want to make sure you have:
Food buff
Weapons stones/oils, preference here.
Potions

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Yep, you’ll use agility potions with stones

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:55 PM

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Okay, I honestly... first time hearing about these lol

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So it sounds like i'm playing in the bottom 15% of other ass. rogues near my ilvl?

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That's good though, because once improved I should be maxing damage for my guild.

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:56 PM

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28% near your ilvl

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15% overall

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:56 PM

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Oh okay, so still pretty bad lol

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:56 PM

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@vocal pagoda did I miss anything egregious?

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You’ve only up to go

vocal pagoda Oct 25, 2021, 6:56 PM

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oh I haven't been paying attention

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I just made the thread and dipped

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lul

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let me skim it real quick

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Haha - I appreciate both of you

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:57 PM

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Opener sequence, uptime on bleeds, potting, not missing flag casts or other CDs (which he’s not missing vanish/vendetta) CP/energy waste

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At 236, not going to hit the talent thing as of yet.

vocal pagoda Oct 25, 2021, 6:58 PM

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we talk about shiv yet?

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 6:58 PM

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I think I’ve covered it, but I get self conscious and wanna make sure I give you all the info possible and the truest info possible

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Oh thank you, i missed it in the rest

vocal pagoda Oct 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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flag/vend/shiv

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oh

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there's no vanish cast on this fight

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that's not good

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 6:59 PM

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Yeah I certainly messed up one.

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 7:00 PM

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Shiv on CD. It’s an uptime buff, not a burst thing. 14 casts on 7.5 is a bit low even with dance.

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 7:00 PM

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The original opener I was doing was was mainly tying together MUT - Shiv - Vend - Flag - Vanish - Envenom

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 7:00 PM

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vocal pagoda there's no vanish cast on this fight

vocal pagoda Oct 25, 2021, 7:01 PM

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oh

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 7:01 PM

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He had the vanish casts according to this - weird visual

vocal pagoda Oct 25, 2021, 7:01 PM

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I was filtering

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that's mb

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kekW

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 7:01 PM

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It sounds like Flag doesn't need to combo with Vend and Van

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 7:01 PM

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You want to match up as much as possible

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But you won’t be able to do every one

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 7:02 PM

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Oh gotcha okay so that opener you sent matches it but I should still flag when it comes up before the other two are up

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 7:02 PM

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While you’re learning fights, just cast on flag CD. We’ll go over pooling once initial things are fixed

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 7:02 PM

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Makes sense yeah that's easier for now.

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 7:03 PM

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But for purposes of damage missing casts is worse than not lining them up,

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Also for max casting in vendetta/vanish. You can get most of the window in before the dance. It’s close but essentially the second vendetta comes off CD, pop it before dance. You also hope to high roll it and hope for a favorable starting part for the dance

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And did you vendetta an add during the fight?

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You did, try to avoid that. Happens to the best of us.

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 7:07 PM

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Yeah, I think I did that because last week we couldn't beat this boss and the add damage was horrendous

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That was a conscious decision at that point.

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A bad one, but certainly one I thought we might need lol

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 7:09 PM

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So gonna sum up log review as there was a lot of info put here.
Things to work on:

maximizing flag casts
maximizing uptime on your bleeds
avoid energy waste as much as possible, even the best will waste some, but 1/6 is high.
shiv on CD
Try to waste less Combo points
only rupture in pandemic (or when it’s “glowing” if you have a weak aura pack)
use potions
fix opener sequencing

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 7:09 PM

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brave surge A bad one, but certainly one I thought we might need lol

If you got max value that’s what matters yejoice

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 7:09 PM

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Haha - okay awesome i'll copy those tips so when this thread dies I don't lose it.

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 7:09 PM

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You’re new and it’ll take time, but hopefully this helps you improve your play and absolutely frag your next raid happybear

brave surge Oct 25, 2021, 7:09 PM

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I'll also practice the new opener and look into pots

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Yeah, our guild has a huge DPS problem so this should help

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Thanks a lot for both of your time

meager ore Oct 25, 2021, 7:13 PM

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Any time, can’t wait to see next log

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Ty for thread @vocal pagoda whispyrheart

vocal pagoda Oct 25, 2021, 7:18 PM

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pleasure

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