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buoyant sage
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well wth did Nikobaby

torn girder
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Agent nikobaby leaving puck in chrono at 5% hp

buoyant sage
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in the last fight like

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yes

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bruv

torn girder
buoyant sage
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I cliped the whole sequence

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like

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what

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he even pings puck many times after chrono'd him

torn girder
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Maybe cuz of aeon disk?

buoyant sage
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no, Miracles disk triggers after

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after the chrono miracle sends his orb towards void and mars

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and it's right after that

torn girder
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Ye but maybe he didn’t want to proc it

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Idk why not but

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Yea weird move

buoyant sage
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ah maybe, dont know if he had the time to think about that in such a tense moment

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but it feels like panic to me imho

torn girder
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Ye lmao

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Potentially thought he needed to help team

buoyant sage
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yeh Idk maybe a call on vc

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feels weird regardless

tender fox
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looks like when u think u got the kill and move on to the next but that he would proc aeon

errant tusk
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he has item locked

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like he has vit booster locked or sth

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so he will proc it on the hit that would kill him

torn girder
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Who won the series i took nap

buoyant sage
buoyant sage
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game 3 rn

torn girder
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Am vs dusa

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Lole

buoyant sage
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survival of the fittest

torn girder
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Nah that should def be nigma w

buoyant sage
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nigma won in 30 min btw

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iltw got twice the net worth of dusa SCWhehehehehe

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liquid vs. secret now letsgoo

torn girder
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Am too good in that game

vital pollen
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Why do people think

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Talking super fast and loud is somehow good casting

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From that clip, i have to say, can understand basically zero of what he's "casting"

buoyant sage
buoyant sage
torn girder
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Too ez

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I forgot to watch

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How were the games

buoyant sage
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there are good plays, I mostly watched 1st game

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ATF doing some bm by buying mantle of intelligence

torn girder
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Ye hes been doing that

buoyant sage
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and dropping em in front of Nigma's fountain

torn girder
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Buys mantle and drops at fountain

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Chad

buoyant sage
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lmaoo

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Nigma had a nice draft but they just got outplayed on so many moves

torn girder
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Looks like both games were giga stomps

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44-13

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37-12

buoyant sage
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new OG squad literally juiced up gamers, they dont let you time to breath

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1st game was even at a moment

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then it crumbled for Nigma

torn girder
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Did misha play SD again kekg

buoyant sage
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yes man

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theres a fight, under OG mid t2

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where he saves so many ppl again

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sitting at 100 hps

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and nigma simply ignored him + his positioning was way too good too

torn girder
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When are people gonna just ban it kekdog

torn girder
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eg losing to some randoms monkaSHAKE

buoyant sage
buoyant sage
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@torn girder

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bruv

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2 fucking O

torn girder
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big yikers

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EG in shambles

buoyant sage
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yeh thats rough

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Jerax agent doing god's work borpaBased

torn girder
distant yoke
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dude this guy

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is fucking

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slamming ppl

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(EG)

buoyant sage
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lmao man

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he just droppin BARS

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wth

torn girder
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who

buoyant sage
torn girder
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sammyboy?

buoyant sage
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his itw yeh

torn girder
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he was shitting on ppl?

buoyant sage
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I put the sound on quite late but from what I got he kinda mad at last season orgnization

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that they had too few time to prac and shit

torn girder
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EG def in shambles

buoyant sage
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lmao dude he's juiced up

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yeh EG crumbling

distant yoke
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Man he wasnt just shitting on ppl

buoyant sage
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yeh

distant yoke
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he was calling Jerax and old fuck

buoyant sage
distant yoke
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and EG a washed up team

torn girder
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hm

distant yoke
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and idk

torn girder
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let me rewatch

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rofl

distant yoke
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a bunch of shit

buoyant sage
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LMAO

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yeh and that ppl kept memeing them

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you could feel he was waiting for this moment to vent out SCWhehehehehe

torn girder
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holy shit

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he just opens with

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"we just clown on jerax man, old as fuck"

buoyant sage
torn girder
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holy shit

buoyant sage
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gang shit

torn girder
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jeez

distant yoke
buoyant sage
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new Battle Pass and shit gabenget

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Drow Ranger arcana skin Popogacd

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pretty cool actually

vital pollen
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"pretty cool"

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Okay

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Pretty insane :p

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Hoodwink skin :3

tender fox
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that crossbow look a bit big

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but at least they updated tobis spank bank

buoyant sage
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yeh well it's indeed insane LULW

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I only saw that cropped screenshot when I said that

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Hoodwink Popogacd

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today Liquid vs Secret for DPC season

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and tomorrow OGDotaPit

buoyant sage
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imagine being 1v1'd by a 16yo kid, with shitty wallpaper and curtains and poor camera angle @torn girder kekg

torn girder
torn girder
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Man that gives me nostalgia back to my cousins house

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In ukraine

buoyant sage
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yeh it has strong eastern house vibe

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dude straight up beat Miracle mid like that

torn girder
buoyant sage
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btw Liquid are undefeated so far

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and zai played 8 different heroes already

distant yoke
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zai is underrated

errant tusk
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or was it some diff tournament

buoyant sage
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then DPC announcement were wrong lamo

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idk

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need to check

errant tusk
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coz they lost 2-0 to secret i think

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in some game

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but maybe that wasnt dpc

buoyant sage
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ye

errant tusk
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i dont know

buoyant sage
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I was talking about dpc only

errant tusk
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tundra giga stomping them

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jesus

buoyant sage
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didnt have the time to watch a lot for now

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but it seems even from here

errant tusk
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ok it was like 14k adv for tundra

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i come back

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its 4k adv for liquid

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usual visage game tho

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visage falls off so hard later on

buoyant sage
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14k for tundra into 7k for liquid as we speak

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bruv moment

errant tusk
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ye lmao

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lategame enigma with refresher

distant yoke
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wasted refresher

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but ehh ye

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bruh

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liquid just turnt on the heat

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in this game

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played quite insane in the late game

buoyant sage
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zai supremacy

torn girder
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I think seb right secret manhandled them i believe

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Nvm liquid are 3-0

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Was it in oga pit?

buoyant sage
torn girder
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Pudge

buoyant sage
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8 games 8 heroes

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ye LULW

buoyant sage
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visage crumbles again

distant yoke
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Liquid looking stronge

torn girder
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They got 2-0’d by secret it oga pit

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So idk

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Maybe they only bring A game to dpc

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Kinda hoping secret and spirit meet in upper bracket finals in that

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Think spirit would just decimate them

distant yoke
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Secret is a good team on their day

torn girder
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Spirit is a good team everyday rn

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Not just good lol scary

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Collapse was playing out of his mind last series I watched

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Destroyed tundra

buoyant sage
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today's games for OGDotaPIT

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OG vs Team Spirit in 30 min

distant yoke
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sick

buoyant sage
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as expected, it's rough

buoyant sage
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ATF balls of steel

distant yoke
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happy its 1-1

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no stomp

buoyant sage
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yeh, was tough but they managed

torn girder
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Gonna have to rewatch that one

buoyant sage
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yeh game 3 was even at first then Spirit took the lead and never let it go

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even with good moves from OG

buoyant sage
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daily dota games report

distant yoke
buoyant sage
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Lower Bracket OGDotaPIT

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18:00 CET

tender fox
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paint my living room instead

buoyant sage
errant tusk
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nigma the chain feed

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jesus

buoyant sage
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yeh it's painful

torn girder
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Man nigma looks bad kekg

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Division 2 team soon

buoyant sage
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they didnt yesterday

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at least vs. Secret

torn girder
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They’ve won like 1 series so far

buoyant sage
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ye Im not saying they are cracked

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quite the opposite rn

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kinda sad I love these players

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esp Gh

torn girder
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OG getting their revenge

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for DPC

buoyant sage
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ye they played well

torn girder
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psg style

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give up a little in the start

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get your farm on your cores

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slam

buoyant sage
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bzm

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that bottom t3 siege

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sheeesh

distant yoke
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did anyone watch this alliance game

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man jeeves is the worst caster dota has had

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in a while

buoyant sage
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nah after 3 series

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I stopped watching Alliance tbh, except if they play against a team I like

torn girder
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nigma beating secret

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okay okay

distant yoke
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looked really good too

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idk they played carry heroes on miracle in mid

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and iltw were playing mid heroes from safelane

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kinda strange

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but it worked

tender fox
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going back to same strats before they kicked mutumba

torn girder
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Og tundra -> spirit secret

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Big games

buoyant sage
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yeee

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right after my R6 stream

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perfect

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skitter out there slicing ppl kekdog

distant yoke
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Tundra is such a weird team

torn girder
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Man esports fans are subhumans lol

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team do bad shit on team/player

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Team do good bandwagon

buoyant sage
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le classic moment

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considering half of them are probably herald

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2nd leoric in a row for tundra as well

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skitter dunked on ppl first game and now he has wisp OME

distant yoke
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bzm seems a bit shaky on tinker

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chain feed

buoyant sage
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well OG has only one front liner

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medusa leaves a big hole

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you cant protect the tinker for too long

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tundra has 3 big boys with a direct disable too KEKL

distant yoke
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y

buoyant sage
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if they can hold long enough until tundra cant face fight dusa it could be done but they will suffer

torn girder
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Theres doom for dusa

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Dont think hes ever gonna have a good time

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Especially with double doom KEKW

buoyant sage
distant yoke
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i have watched like

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3 OG games in total

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past few days

buoyant sage
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was lookin grim from the draft anyways

distant yoke
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and they have picked tinker twice

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and both times

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it has been trash for them

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GG out

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let it end

buoyant sage
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aight gg

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make some room to practice for DPC

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by the time I wrote that they killed them all WhatChamp

torn girder
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Yuragi going for the rapirka

buoyant sage
torn girder
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ah

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it was a

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donation rapier

buoyant sage
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ye tundra was too ahead

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spirit vs secret now

torn girder
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time for spirit to eat

torn girder
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spirit teamfight execution patnut

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KEKW

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DOOM INTO LINKENS

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DOUBLE LINKENS GANG

buoyant sage
torn girder
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game was even until it wasnt

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spirit style

torn girder
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mira insane

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wtf

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slick dodge

buoyant sage
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think I missed that

vital pollen
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gotta say

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secret rune control this game is top-notch

torn girder
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collapse

vital pollen
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i mean

buoyant sage
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Collapse man LULW

vital pollen
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that was all on yapzor ^^

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that mars shouldve died in like 5seconds Kekw

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picking that fight without morph was kinda weird

torn girder
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tf puppey

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this feels like another game that looks in control for secret

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but might just turn around rq

vital pollen
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dunno

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great draft for secret

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weird draft for spirit

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natural order+ta+lil shredder

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once secret has their bkbs going, theres really nothing spirit can do

torn girder
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oof

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half health splitter

vital pollen
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didnt see how the draft went

torn girder
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morph and et were last picks

vital pollen
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but im surprised secret got those heroes

torn girder
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qop 1st pick

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this ET cucking so many moves

vital pollen
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buyback into "lets not defend" Weirdege

torn girder
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if secret get this rosh gonna be impossible to kill TA

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with the granny aghs

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oh why would you give TA the aghs lol

vital pollen
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to be a threat to the monkey pushing out sidelanes

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ET pulling out the briefcase

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hitting people over the head

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but yeah, with the mk being a constant nuisance on the map by pushing out sidelanes

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the TA aghs is just a nice way to deny that

torn girder
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lvl 25 refraction talent

vital pollen
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casting is making me sad tho

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its a good game

torn girder
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ye

vital pollen
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like

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"this ET hasnt hit anything"

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after he just killed the morph+puck

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and a support

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and took down the mars by 80% as well

buoyant sage
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collapse on spirit breaker

torn girder
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secret getting rolled and smoked

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my god this ursa

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getting meme'd

vital pollen
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that tumblers toy

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giga value

buoyant sage
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lmao

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high five and all

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juicy

torn girder
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emoting, high five, tumblers toy to outrange aftershock

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watching qop wind up sonic over and over cause cold snap

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enigma needs to get the sb in hole

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or its just gonna get cancelled by nether strike

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hope they show stat for how much eidolon gold was fed

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ye this enigma was just a grief

tender fox
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what is this charge dmg lol

torn girder
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ti winner buff for collapse on his charge dmg

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icefrog favoritism

buoyant sage
buoyant sage
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ogdotapit starting again rn

torn girder
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Man is secret really getting broodmothered

buoyant sage
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yeeeeep

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tundra juiced up af

distant yoke
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Getting bmd

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Worst feeling

torn girder
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Davai spirit

buoyant sage
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DAVAAAI cykaPls

torn girder
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Ti champ vibes borpaBased

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Yatoro casually telling lina and io to fuck off

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2v1

buoyant sage
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ye hes brutal

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dude plly played 10 pub games before finals OME

torn girder
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Collapse gigachad

buoyant sage
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ok collapse

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lmao

torn girder
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The manliest man

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Did spirit ban out wraith king

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Tundra seems to like to pick wraith king into everything

buoyant sage
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good question I didnt see the draft

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ye

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they plly did

torn girder
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I assume it was banned, they look good with it

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I assume spirit knows that lul

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Game looked like it was gonna get rough for spirit when tundra just full pushed mid and they couldn’t do anything about it

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But was ez mode

buoyant sage
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yeh it's really impressive they're almost always in control of whats going on

torn girder
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Not a fluke borpaBased

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Best team in the world as I said at end of TI

buoyant sage
buoyant sage
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draft on going and I have to go out notLikeThis

tender fox
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lucky u have a smart phone

buoyant sage
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well Ima drink with friends so it's not the best spot LULW

tender fox
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its monday Hmmm

buoyant sage
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theres a specific day to have a drink?

tender fox
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actually insane sentry play

torn girder
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Yikes nine

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Big yikes

buoyant sage
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just in time for game 3

torn girder
buoyant sage
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da broodmama effect

buoyant sage
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yo spirit are shook

torn girder
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Ye

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Why give nyx again

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When you’re playin 3 heroes susceptible to carapace

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4 even

buoyant sage
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ye

torn girder
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Looks like its gonna be a 3-1 if they’re already behind in nw against luna that early

buoyant sage
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ye its rough

vital pollen
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the cat

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in the back

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of blacks stream

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in the fucking cabinet

torn girder
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Man he got shit on

buoyant sage
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literally

errant tusk
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@vital pollen look

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game i played

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and i checke replay coz i felt like they always have vision

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he had some maphack

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jfc

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wtf is that

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drawing lines whenever you tp

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drawing circles which camp you pull

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im just shocked

torn girder
errant tusk
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im gonna mąkę reddit post about it tommorow no joke. If we could get just 1 of them banned

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it was so disgusting tho they even had underlord to out manouver is on map

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wtf is that

torn girder
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ye thats nuts

buoyant sage
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wth man

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he doesnt even hide it

vital pollen
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Wtf okay

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That's ridiculous

errant tusk
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made reddit post about it

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if you are interested in match ids and stuff

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orfl

buoyant sage
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upvote yejoice

errant tusk
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🚀

errant tusk
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i won that game

vital pollen
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Lel

distant yoke
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where is our patch tho

errant tusk
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@distant yoke id guess late january?

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but yaknow rng in the end :D

buoyant sage
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@errant tusk

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ALIVE

errant tusk
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im not sure if i wanna commit to buying battle pass levels

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its kinda shit

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but fomo

torn girder
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What

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Drow arcana is insane

errant tusk
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there is like 2 good things in there yea

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one of them hoodwink immortal and drow arcana

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one is 275 other is 333

torn girder
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Drow arcana alone is worth

errant tusk
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its just so far

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and im not a drow player whatsoever

torn girder
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So fucking nice

errant tusk
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so wont ever use it tbh

torn girder
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Well if you ever become a drow player you wont be able to cause you dont have the arcana

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Also mirana persona is nice

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Looks way nicer than base

errant tusk
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ye mirana persona

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id take

torn girder
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Her face doesnt look fucking shite

buoyant sage
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both drow and hood are insane but they really shit on dota players tbh, without acting like an old man, it was def better before where you could grind more by playing instead of buying tons of levels

errant tusk
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tbh calling it persona

torn girder
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And the Q animation patnut

errant tusk
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is way too much

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its like making it hd

torn girder
errant tusk
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idk

torn girder
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Ye its not really a persona

errant tusk
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persona should be different

torn girder
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Its remaster of base

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But its rlly good tbf

errant tusk
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yea

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its fine i agree

torn girder
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You have to play a shit ton

errant tusk
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nah you arent gonna get anything if you just play

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i think max to get even if you nolife is like 100 levels

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which is nowhere near enough

torn girder
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Ye

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Idk you can get lucky with some of those weekly battle point chests from quests

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I got like 5 levels from one

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  • cavern crawl shit
errant tusk
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i bought bp to begin with to do cavern for void

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which i did already

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i jsut need to unlock other style for it

torn girder
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But you still end up paying for sure

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Im waiting for eventual levels bundle deal

errant tusk
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i think its really bad how bps work now

buoyant sage
errant tusk
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that you cant even trade these items

buoyant sage
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imho

errant tusk
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idk

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its really bad i think

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yea you wont be able to farm 100 bps levels

torn girder
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Ye not being able to trade them sucks

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I wish they’d sell the arcana’s separate or something idk

errant tusk
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well im in a boat of

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all arcanas should be 30-40 bucks

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in shopw

torn girder
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Ye

errant tusk
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but you know

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🤌 🤑

torn girder
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Ye

buoyant sage
torn girder
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Bit sadge but I am a fiend

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I saw that drow set and insta paid the money in my head already

errant tusk
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i think ill resist

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and wont buy it actually

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i think id rather buy some tradable skin off market

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like that expensive faceless void mace

torn girder
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Which one

errant tusk
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mace of aeons

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i think its called

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the one that slightly changes your chrono look

torn girder
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Gold one?

errant tusk
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ehh cant link

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sad

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this one

torn girder
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Oh ye

errant tusk
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its like 150$

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but its tradable

torn girder
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Ye basically what you’d pay for drow on bp

errant tusk
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yea

torn girder
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But you’d be getting a lot more than just that

errant tusk
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its pretty much most of the sets are from caches

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which you're gonna get gifted/dont care for

vale vector
errant tusk
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its persona for mirana/immortal for hoodwink/drow arcana

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that you wont get

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ever

torn girder
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Ye

errant tusk
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previous bp i bought 300 levels

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or 330

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or w/e i needed

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i wanted spectre arcana as i actually play the hero 😄

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and i didnt get all the sets from caches

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had to buy the void spirit super rare set

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ultra rare, dont remember what rarity it was

torn girder
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I remember not getting the Wr and qop arcanas and now whenever I wanna play them I get really sad

errant tusk
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yea

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i didnt even play back then

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but i dont mind

torn girder
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Ye I was like

errant tusk
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even tho its sad you know

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i didnt play

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not much i can do

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and cool stuff is cool because its limited

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so i can get behind that a bit

torn girder
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Ye

buoyant sage
errant tusk
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i think they should be tradable tho

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like

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that just makes market healthy

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imagine id get drow arcana now

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and i could trade it for wr arcana

buoyant sage
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yesss

errant tusk
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because someone played back then but didnt play now

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and we can trade

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idk

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just makes sense

buoyant sage
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agreed

torn girder
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Ye i do wish older stuff was more accessible but i understand why it isnt

buoyant sage
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I sold my pudge hook for like 180€ back in the days

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shouldve kept it

errant tusk
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is it more expensive now actually?

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i think you're talking about dragonclaw right?

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thats like most popular skin

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or used to be ratheer

buoyant sage
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yes dragonclaw, bought it for 4 chest keys back then, since they used the same system as TF2 and CSGO

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sold it for 180e

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but I think it's way more now

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iirc

errant tusk
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its less than 180e now

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but yea prices change

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frequently id guess

buoyant sage
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oh really

errant tusk
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that market is volatile ish

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since if new battle pass releases

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or new case for csgo etc

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people sell

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coz they want new stuff

buoyant sage
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okey, I must confuse with the Fade Glock on CSGO, it's way more now

errant tusk
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so its kinda volatile in that regard

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yea

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all csgo skins

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SKYROCKETED

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i think

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for example deagle blaze i remember

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used to be like 20-40 bucks

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and now its 400 😄

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crazy

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some of the skins really went full 🚀

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i think its mostly coz china got into csgo market some time ago

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so big demand from them

buoyant sage
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cause I had that shit like, pristine before they even put quality level onto skins sold it for 220€ and now it's like close to 1K iirc

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ye it's insane

errant tusk
#

the glock fade i remember

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wastn that expensive when game was released

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maybe was like 50$

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'released'

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like 2014

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it wasnt that expensive

buoyant sage
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oh I got it for less

errant tusk
#

yea

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maybe even less tbh

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but yea

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it went up in price very much

buoyant sage
#

thats my only "regret"

errant tusk
#

csgo skins are just expensive af no question about it

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i sold some of my skins for way cheaper than they're now but thats how it is

buoyant sage
#

yeh happens

errant tusk
#

i probably lost even more for betting them

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and losing that way

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easy come easy go

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on betting them*

buoyant sage
#

lmaoo man I didnt bet much but some friends were addicted

errant tusk
#

yee back when cs betting was a thing

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and csgo lounge

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i'd bet quite a bit

buoyant sage
#

2013-2016 csgo era

distant yoke
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i didnt get the spectre arcana

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and i am forever sad

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but i have qop, wr and now drow

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man i even got the physical aegis on the wr + qop BP kekg

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1k+ levels

buoyant sage
#

push out there complaining QQ I didnt get spectre me sad

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and instant brags

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disgustang

distant yoke
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i love spectre Sadgers

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and the arcana is sick

buoyant sage
#

gib wr then AngeryCat

torn girder
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Push is oil prince swede

errant tusk
vital pollen
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😄

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nice to know though

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they actually got police involved and everything

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wouldve been a truly sad end to his legacy

errant tusk
#

@vital pollen

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how to almost lose won game

distant yoke
#

quite accurate

vital pollen
#

love looking forward to a game of dota

#

and then its techies firstpick

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all the fucking time

distant yoke
#

I always just ban techies

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Or try to

vital pollen
#

yeah but

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whenever its not banned you just get cancer games

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with techies or arc warden

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games that arent actually dota

distant yoke
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ye not fun

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thats probably the main description

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of techies games

#

just NOT fun

vital pollen
#

yeah idk

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its just a very different game youre playing

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tinker used to be the same, but is very different now

torn girder
#

I ban pudge

distant yoke
#

why

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techies is far worse

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if techies is already banned i just ban tinker

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or OD

torn girder
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I hate pudge

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They just sit in tree and game ruin

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Or god is on enemy team and just kill you

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And its like 100% chance hes picked if not banned

distant yoke
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U avin a laugh mate

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Pudge is worst to play with, i’d agree with that

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In my bracket ppl play it as a pos 5 as well

errant tusk
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rofl

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they won game off of that too

vital pollen
#

Wow

errant tusk
#

@vital pollen

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who is this

torn girder
vital pollen
buoyant sage
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wth

vital pollen
#

meanwhile i get to play with

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33minutes in

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all he does all game is

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sit in fountain

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zip to a lane to oneshot creeps

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and either tp back or zip back

errant tusk
#

zipzap

buoyant sage
#

who's that handsome devil

vital pollen
#

the amount of insanely stupid people in this game is mindboggling

vital pollen
#

wanna guess who was flaming in teamchat all game after going 0-9 by minute 10?

errant tusk
#

@vital pollen

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its gonna come

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the L's are coming

torn girder
#

That 2nd mars game musta been crispy

errant tusk
tender fox
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happens to everyone

errant tusk
#

still funny

torn girder
distant yoke
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fuck techies

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alliance probably going down to div 2

#

disband inc?

torn girder
#

Ye i mean they’re shit

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Game ova

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Cant win anything

buoyant sage
#

OG playing rn

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lessgoo

tender fox
#

are their honeymoon period over yet

errant tusk
#

@vital pollen immortal tommorow COPIUM

buoyant sage
#

gg Sebbek pangoroll

#

good matches ahead too yay

vital pollen
#

Pretty sure you were like divine 2 a week ago

errant tusk
#

morph isnt even best hero to spam tho

vital pollen
#

Od

errant tusk
#

if i wanted free mmr as carry youd play medusa/wk

vital pollen
#

But fuck that hero

errant tusk
#

offlane is like od

#

mid is qop

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qop/void spirit

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void spirit is even more busted than od

#

i think

vital pollen
#

dunno

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depends on the skill level

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and how well you time your hammer

#

but with treads switch its easy anyway

errant tusk
#

if you are missing hammer you dont deserve to win lets be real

#

its so easy

#

i played 1st game od and i insta hit it

vital pollen
#

well sure but "missing" means hitting it .1sec late

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if you time it perfectly

#

puck cant even phaseshift and you cant bkb

errant tusk
#

pretty sure there is no way to stop people from bkb

#

bkb has prio over everything

buoyant sage
#

yeh

#

bkb has prio

errant tusk
#

like also there is no way to stun jugg if he spams spin

#

maybe 1 in 5 if you time it perfectly

#

but even then its probably some server tick bs

vital pollen
#

jugg works 100%

#

think the only spells that take prio, and im not even sure about that atm, is nyx carapace and maybe bkb

#

those are like the only 2 spells

errant tusk
#

od is op as shit tho

#

frustrating to play against

#

pure damage

#

i think void spirit is much worse tho

#

this hero does too much damage

vital pollen
#

hmye

#

void gets hard fucked by some instant disables tho

#

rhasta/lion still as good as ever

buoyant sage
#

started to play again yesterday NotLikePsyduck

#

fell back in the hole

vital pollen
#

ye i saw

buoyant sage
#

what is trendy as 4 or 5 these days apart from Weaver

errant tusk
#

@vital pollen

vital pollen
#

dadsen play marci

errant tusk
#

this is the best combo

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in entire game

#

better than morph shaker

vital pollen
#

fuck spiritbreaker

buoyant sage
#

yeh I tried her, loved it

vital pollen
#

spiritbreaker is still the dumbest shit ever

#

trendy pos4?

#

pmuch anything

errant tusk
#

its fun

buoyant sage
#

yeh, and 5

vital pollen
#

dp, clock

buoyant sage
#

since I'll play both

vital pollen
#

lion

buoyant sage
#

Clock ClockLove

vital pollen
#

but i like dp 4 a lot

buoyant sage
#

wow thats must be a pain to trade with dp as pos 5

vital pollen
#

well, its fine until she hits like

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lv3/4

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at which point you basically rely on your carry to help you trade

#

i played it against lich+jugg which is a super cancer lane

#

and even then we traded evenly and then once you hit 6 you can solo kill almost any core

#

same as willow

#

the problem as pos4 is that the expectation in pubs is that the 2 supports pick first stage

buoyant sage
#

okey didnt think about it actually scary

vital pollen
#

which imo is not a good idea

#

you wanna pick your pos4 to synergize well with the pos3 on lane, while providing smth to the lineup you dont already have

buoyant sage
#

yeh thats what I think too, esp at lower ranks where I play

vital pollen
#

but pubs basically force a 2supports+3/1+mid draft

#

but if you play smth like tide pos3

#

play a snap

#

gush+shredder is ridiculous

errant tusk
#

-armour strats are busted af

buoyant sage
#

yeh Snap is in my hero pool, nice

errant tusk
#

try playing sf pos 1 and tide pos 5

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and you give like -8 armour level 1

buoyant sage
#

rofl

errant tusk
#

only hero that can stay there is tb i think

#

coz he has like 12 base 😄

vital pollen
#

if you play a SB, play smth with slow/stuns so the SB can follow up and kill the support repeatedly

#

if enemies plays smth liek omni or ns pos5, you play treant

errant tusk
#

sb/night stalker is really good

#

you run people down

#

and have really big kill threat on most lanes

vital pollen
#

yeah

buoyant sage
vital pollen
#

mars works well with a zone controlling support

errant tusk
#

mars has like no bad lane

#

unless someone cheeses you

#

i think mars is most complete hero

buoyant sage
#

hoodwink still relevant as pos4? maybe 5

errant tusk
#

yes

buoyant sage
#

marci too?

errant tusk
#

hoodwink is strongest pos 4 right now

vital pollen
#

hood for sure

errant tusk
#

arguably

vital pollen
#

marci no idea

buoyant sage
#

nicela

errant tusk
#

marci is good but falls off

#

you have to do a lot in early game

#

marci design is flawed

vital pollen
#

marci picks only really work with pos1/2s that work well with her

errant tusk
#

forces her into stuff like bkb/basher everyt game

vital pollen
#

marci/ursa is really damn strong for example

errant tusk
#

or armlet/bkb/basher

#

you just cant play this hero diff

buoyant sage
#

yeh I played her twice yesterday and could already see her limit kinda

errant tusk
#

ah maybe you can do aether lens

#

and play for q range

vital pollen
#

imo marci as support needs to much to work

errant tusk
#

but still you must have bkb

vital pollen
#

only really works as core

errant tusk
#

its just you must have bkb on her to play the game

vital pollen
#

friend of mine is playing it mid a lot and people still struggle with it

errant tusk
#

its not good

#

she is super forced by her ult

#

she has insanely strong early game

vital pollen
#

at the end of the day, you can play almost any hero pos4 atm

#

its the most flexible but also highest skill position in the game

errant tusk
#

ye pos 4 is flex

#

but i think hoodwink is strongest with sb

#

some hoodwinks are just so annoying, cant ever catch them

vital pollen
#

monkey is still great on it, almost any hero you used to play pos3, you can play pos4 now

errant tusk
#

does a lot of damage

vital pollen
#

including stuff like darkseer, ns, dp, dawn, clock

errant tusk
#

ye mk/od is strongest lane in entire game possibly

#

astral into mk jump

buoyant sage
#

yeh thats mostly why I switched from main pos 3 to pos 4
the ability to adapt

vital pollen
#

a lot of it is just about the laning meta

#

you ferry regen for the first 10 minutes

#

basically

buoyant sage
#

thought about playing MK pos 4 too

#

but need to be very active on trees

#

and be there at the right time

#

etc..

vital pollen
#

its not hard

#

trading with melee heroes is super easy

#

trading with ranged heroes is easy too

#

probably one of the easiest pos4s to contribute with

#

considering both your nukes have super long range

buoyant sage
#

true

errant tusk
#

also mk buys a lot of space because you can camp trees on the other side of the map and cut waves

#

make people run after you

#

one of few supports that can be on the map even if you're behind

vital pollen
#

but yeah

#

most important thing is

#

ferry regen

#

like

#

all the time

#

i had an awful lane yday as ursa

#

playing against sandking

buoyant sage
#

ferry? as in faerie fire? lmao

vital pollen
#

and phoenix

#

nah, courier-ferry

#

in the first 10min i bought

#

3salves and 15tangos

#

and i went out of that game without dying once in lane

#

despite it being phoenix+sk

#

which is

#

abysmal to play against

buoyant sage
#

ooh okey I see

#

yeh

#

perma amazon services

vital pollen
#

if you ever think "do i need another set of tangos" the asnwer is yes

#

if it means you delay boots by 30sec

#

thats totally fine

buoyant sage
#

invest in consumables to lock a good early game

#

I see

vital pollen
#

nothing is worse as a support than sitting on lane and being unable to trade blows/harrass

#

because youre too low hp or mana

#

and risk dying

#

although sometimes dying is worth it

#

early game kills are worth almost nothing, your entire job as pos4 is to force the enemy to buy more regen and miss CS

#

so theres situations where "suiciding" is worth if it means you can burn through the enemy carries regen or keep him low hp

#

its often better to not kill the safelaner, and just keep him low hp and afraid to lasthit

buoyant sage
#

yeh I already got that "suicide" vibe is worth, in some context ofc

#

yeh

vital pollen
#

if you kill him once, he loses 3-5cs and comes back full hp/mana, ready to counter kill you

#

if you keep him low, he has to buy regen and will miss a lot more lasthits over the next 2min

#

if you get a solid deep ward, you can even snipe the courier

#

at which point you won the lane

#

especially on some heroes like weaver or monkey, who have a super easy time sniping couriers

buoyant sage
#

yeh I dont ward the lane enough

errant tusk
#

ah yea weaver 4 is disgusting

#

its so annoying to play against

#

rat hero

buoyant sage
#

I tend to ward closer to tower or block small camp with sentry

#

yeh I banned her twice yesterday

#

I knew it from the pro games I watched

vital pollen
#

yeah i hate that shit honestly

buoyant sage
#

that a sneaky lil prick would pick it

vital pollen
#

the big camp pull ward-battle

#

is the most annoying shit

buoyant sage
#

yes

vital pollen
#

i hate it a lot

buoyant sage
#

I can easily do it with clock since I played that shit too much time + cogs obv a good tool to zone out and deward

#

but yeh it's a mental battle

vital pollen
#

its just annoying as fuck

#

so i dont really bother with it

#

i think pulling bigcamp in regular games is pretty overrated, cause most pos3s dont know how to play around it

#

and then enemy just grabs the camp and the creeps

torn girder
#

Lol seb i was saying the same thing to push last night about mars

#

Hero doesn’t lose lane

vital pollen
#

dont think ive ever seen a pos3 push out the lane when im pulling

buoyant sage
#

I often play with my mate so we can get along with it

vital pollen
#

to force the enemy carry under the tower

errant tusk
#

no joke

#

this hero has everything

torn girder
#

Ye

errant tusk
#

its really hard to play tho i think

#

not on lane

#

on lane its easy

#

but after laning stage

torn girder
#

Ye

#

I had that issue