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But Ame cost lgd like 2 mil dollars
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After many years of hard work and dedication, incredible wins, and unforgettable memories, our beloved Sébastien “Ceb” Debs has decided to step down and end his career as a Dota 2 player.
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Hope is going into analyzing
Could use more ex pros
He was so good at the draft panel
yeh I really hope so
feeling nostalgic ngl, but happy his era was insane along with OG
what happend to xiao8 drama btw
ceb prolly og coach? 
maybe 
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/EHOME why do they have so many players
EHOME was one of the pillars of Chinese DotA, and one of the oldest teams in the scene. However they did not get the same support from their country as the other teams got and were even seen as a foreign team on the Chinese scene, because EHOME was, unlike the other Chinese teams, not part of D.ACE (Association of China E-Sports). ACE was theref...
they even had sylar+chalice whose contract just ended
still have so many inactive on contract
Alliance is announcing their squad soon too
They have been hyping that for a month almost
Should be like any hour now
My bet is on w33, saksa and leslao
To fill out the last 3

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Tundra sticking together
Unfinished Business.
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why would u ever sign 3y contracts when no team literally stays that long 
plly because Tundra is a very recent structure and wants to keep its roster
which has TI level btw, way more than Thunder Predator or another random team from outter space that took a slot at TI
tbh i liked when teams holded more than 1 year
they probably have big buyouts now
and their team looked promising
big buyouts = you can make big dolla
its very stupid of players to sign that tho i think
its convenient for org
dota playres kinda desperate for some kind of calm
financially
in their lives
i can imagine
so will sign any contract that offers consistent dollars
I feel most dota teams are shuffling way too much, instead of working out their problems and overcoming them
it would be a shame if the company that runs the game actually do something for its esports scene, as in, players
Signing a longer contract means you're basically forcing yourself to work together. 3y is a bit much though
i mean if riot stops giving a shit whole league scene die, dota got its own eco system
got pros and cons
riot system is dogshit imo
Only thing valve needs to do is move some ti money into minors instead. But I'll take dota 2 scene over lol any day
Being completely chained and reliant on the dev for money is horrible
agreed
i mean cs/dota scenes
are really good
circuits*
coz valve has hands off approach mostly
whereas leaguee just controls everything
both has pros and cons tbh
dpc wasnt/isnt perfect
it improves a bit every season tho
Yeah but as a league player you're basically just an advertising tool for riot
And they can just decide to cut you or your team off if they want to
That's not financial stability
That's the opposite
is overwatch league even a thing anymore? was so hyped but also reliant on bliz
indeed, but you only have to see both games state rn
and it shows
Valve is lazy
I agree with you in theory
should be daed lmao
News at 11
didnt they have some ridicolous buy in for orgs also to be part of it
they ran another season recently, idk about next season but yeh they wanted to do like US sports
Meaning every team got the same pay from Blizzard for it
and game doesnt attract enough players ig
no ecosystem for newer players but pub i guess
Franchised leagues like that share all league income like ad/sponsor deals for televising etc evenly between all teams, regardless of performance
The reason there's barely an amateur scene in dota is because it's no longer worth running amateur tournaments
Only time it was worth was when they could bundle the tickets for the tourneys in dota tv with cosmetics
I've played amateur tourneys and prizes were usually utter shit
meanwhile valve 3 battle passes keeps old prize pool where they give 25% back to the scene
so generous

Best one we had was organized by a bunch of swiss people with ties to Intel, so we all got a CPU worth ~1.2 grand back then
Yes it was
yes it is
i watched some "finals" just a few weeks ago
with very professional looking panel
with Soe being the host
and they delayed the OWL to 2022 cus of releasing the multiplayer part of OW2
in early 2022
but idk if thats still the case
well their panels were always high qual cus they pay ppl full time for it
But yeah, most amateur tourneys took ~2 months or more, and usually had prize pools of maybe 1-2k
but the league itself is basically /care at this point
main issue is that DPC kinda got fucked
cuz of corona
for the last 2years
and online tourneys with t2/t3 teams dont really get a lot of traction or viewers
OWL is interesting tbh
i just think the game has a bad rep
and its on youtube
so nobody cares
i think it was a massive mistake to move it to youtube before it got big
but i guess they got a lot of money for it
yeah
they needed to get a lot of money early
so the concept would work
only alternative wouldve been to pay out of pocket
thats kinda the problem with franchised leagues
i rly dont understand why other companies dont copy valve with crowdfunding
and its also typical blizzard to force this type of "hometown" stuff and trying to make it WAAAAY bigger than it has to be
u literally get 3rd party artist give u stuff for free and they get a small amount and u cash in big
because doing crowdfunding well is hard
and relies a lot on the quality of the content you surround it with
and compendium/battlepass is 5000x better than anything anyone else puts out
the vision for OWL was insanely big, like huge stadiums where ppl treat their OWL team as this hometown team with thousands of supporters that go to each game etc
well their hired crowd were just cringe though
whats wrong with starting out like dota and having just a bunch of nerds battle it out and growing over time
nah gotta have full fledged fucking franchises
you need a title with a shelf life that is at least 5-10years
were some real obvious hired actors in owl league crowd
how many games do you know that have that kind of shelf life?
how many multiplayer games have that. maybe 1% of all games, probably way less
for the most part
well perhaps but it was so over the top and awkward
blizz employees with their kids

wasnt OWL US only as well
same as their hots stuff
the heroes of the dorm stuff etc
i think there were randoms in that crowd cus i remember reading some thread about how they were handed premade placates with "GO x TEAM"
that they wanted them to put up
during the games

why are blizzard so cringe, it hurts
i mean
probably not
didnt they fire most of those ppl
in 2019
kinda interesting
buy MLG
fire them
yeah, but that was after they controlled the esports development of every game for 5+ years
ye
i think the lead for esports now is that guy who used to run his own arena tourneys
cant remember his name
but he had like small time arena tourneys on twitch that he hosted/casted himself
the main issue with any blizzard game, is that its impossible to run your own tournaments
well, newer blizzard games
but even back in the sc/wc3 days
laughs in sc1
it was the same thing
if you wanted to run a tourney, you needed blizz permission
only back then they didnt care enough and just gave it
but when people started making money, they decided theyd limit access
so the only tournaments that were being organized, were big ones made by MLG/ESL etc.
which killed the ability for most people to have fun tournaments on the regular for little prizepool, just for prestige
you have raidmasters and whats the other thing
atm
m+ tourney
that does weird shit
"off meta" tournament
neither of those are actual tournaments in the same sense
but ye the prize money is heavily restricted
its literally just fan-sites with no blizzard support whatsoever
there must be some reason why they have restricted prize money
ye
they only gave that to known entities that paid them money for the licence
and most of those were misshandled in a crazy way
i.e. back in 2009 for one of the wow tournaments, i think it was done by MLG actually
they made a new tournament realm and gave the TO the account info to log in
which boiled down to them giving them ~200 login accounts for that TR, that were named "tourneyname001" "tourneyname002" with the password being the same as the accountname, and then they just gave everyone one of these. took people all of 5minutes to just log into other peoples accounts and block them from playing

and that was being done by one of the biggest TOs back then
and blizz didnt give a shit anymore
after they gave out the account info
took weeks to get that shit fixed
it was also done on dogshit servers with 250ping
cuz it was MLG tournament, so they wanted it to be on NA servers
despite 80% of the teams being on EU
didnt they buy it shortly after MLG columbus
blizz doesnt really care about any of that stuff
at WWI they seated all wow teams in the same small area, sitting literally next to each other
aka they dont want to invest, but they want it
for our LB game i was sitting right next to the WL from the other team. they put up a piece of plastic between our screen so they couldnt look at it, which didnt really matter

but hey, was fun calling "switch wl pet in 3" and the WL sits 2feet away from you and hears it
you can guess how that match went
but yeah, a lot of companies are just trying to milk their budding esports scene for as much money as they can
theres not a lot of money in it, honestly
and only a handful of titles grow big enough for it to be a useful marketing tool for your game
they want that twitch publicity right and the sponsorships + exposure it gives
but they went to youtube
so yea idk wtf the point is
yeah, and sponsors have little interest in promoting their brand in a game thats fresh on teh market or has low viewernumbers
ye
MDI was so cool tho
first seasons
had 40k+ viewers
and then idk, the format just got worse and it died
and since most titles live anywhere between 2-3years, at most, its very difficult to get enough growth going early when it basically has to come from the developers pocket
or maybe the players got better and the "danger" of a team wiping as like non-existent so the excitement is gone
and i can understand that no dev is willing to pick up the cheque for years for a game, on the off-chance it might grow into something that helps promote the game
add to it that most devs have no experience whatsoever about how to set up a functioning esports ecosystem, and youre basically reliant on outsourcing it entirely to firms with their own agendas and business goals
ye well there are some decently big companies that help with esports tourneys these days
like PGL, ESL etc
i think the main issue is funding as always, read a comment from one of the esports ppl at blizzard a while back that said they get a very small amount of money to put into tournaments
so they cant really blast up the prize money a lot
yeah but ESL for example is a dogshit company
they dont produce tournaments to promote the game
they do it to make money
usually those goals overlap with that of the dev and the players, but weve seen how ESL doesnt really give a shit, providing low quality environments for players, and cutting exclusivity deals that massively hurt exposure of the tournament live feed
The year 2021 is winding down, but the next DPC season is just getting started. The Dota Pro Circuit 2021-2022 Season will officially kick off on November 29th, but the Division II Open Qualifiers will take place beforehand to complete the team lineup for the Winter Tour. You can register for and watch the qualifiers at the links below: Southeas...

never realized that liquid can speak swedish in games now
but who is 2
micke makes the most sense, cant see matumba going mid
It is finally time.
Introducing Jesse @iamJERAX Vainikka and Egor @Nightfall_dota Grigorenko as the newest members of #EGDOTA.
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@distant yoke @torn girder
nightfall has
29 followers on twitter
as of rn

jerax backstabber
who's out of the team?
didnt jerax say hes done with pro dota
o rite fly and icex3
not announced yet?
think they teased it
but ye idk how well this new eg will do
no clue how well nightfall will be able to play 3
t12 champs
weird position for a pos 1 to go to

ye but seeing jerax again will be cool ig
where did sumail go
itll never do well
as long as rtz plays pos1
nice edit

Classic @torn girder copium
cant wait to see Nightfall playing pos3
will be a blast for sure 
hope he'll make me lie

“Quite rarely you find people that are this competent in so many fields. Misha is a fantastic Dota player, mind and leader.” - @OG_BDN0tail
Welcome, captain oh my captain @dota2misha!
Full video: https://t.co/WljwY3SoQC
#DreamOG https://t.co/gi2CZDASnn
full roster dropped 
Who
Og
Only person i recognize is misha ans taiga 
ATF too, but yuragi and biziem I didnt know
Pubstar team
Weird team
Why are you the most irritating human being alive
I do, playing without me :(
that team is just gonna be mediocre at best
maybe they get helping hand from veterans like ceb/notail
or whoever is there around
just hoping they develop talent and maybe resell for $$
its good to have teams like taht too on the scene
I think they got inspired by spirit
Lets get a bunch of CIS gamers together with one older Russian captain
Surely it works for OG too

They hoping for og spark to happen again
Bunch of random pub dudes + taiga and misha lol
Misha the new notail
apparently they reached out to a bunch of ppl
big names
but all turnt them down i guess
ye og gonna get demolished
that new secret lineup looks so fking good
but just because it looks good on paper doesnt mean they'll win majors etc
wdym they will dominate everything up until ti
i was refering to the secret meme like they did 2 previous seasons before this last one
where they just demolish everyone
and suck at ti

they are getting closer and closer though
finished 3rd place at TI10 so not too shabby
ye well this season tehy didnt dominate everything beforehand, which was puppeys plan
so maybe they take open quals this time around
havent open quals won 2 times in a row now
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Mineski raging-_-potato First Blood vs Alliance - Manila Major
Commentary LD and GoDz
i want this shit back man
SO FUCKING HYPE

literal devil
Alliance vs Tundra soontm
huge 
did svg end up without a team or why is he chilling at eu panel
i have never been benched
Tundra picked the exact same lineup as game one 
@distant yoke another depresso year for sweden eh?

they played with smoll pp energy basically
and Tundra just rolling into them
with Nine in frontline
Picking mars and playing little dick
with ES

Og taking a little bit of a dump on them 
Bro this ammar guy built a manta on timber

This ammar guy is a fuckin gigachad
He also might be fucking uber iq
secrets draft is just a meme
Secret bettors?
Og literally shitting all over secret
Really 
1st game secret did some cocky clown draft
No way
They’re actually really good im ngl
protect ur monitors 
Ima watch VODs
Sumail got outclassed in mid even lol

Whats wrong with yuragi nw
Coolio
We’ll just chalk it up to secret not having their chemistry yet

That dodge by bzm, pretty good
So many dodged aa blasts
Ammar also a lil kid
Yea
Just absolutely giga fucked secret star roster

Some fucking student and master shit
They played og style except executed better lol
Ye
It was like controlled cockiness
The casters beat the horse to death but they did look really disciplined lol
Can play the game too 
Didn’t take any coin flip plays
Even when rosh was free they decided to get a pick off before going for it
Hope they continue to blast
Ye the other side of this story is that secret just played bad
Imagine notail grin if his new gen roster wins TI
But i’ll take the positives
Was it them playing bad or just got shit on by better players

Sumail kinda got dookied on in mid from what i saw
Ye ngl that sd was crisp
Picked it before AA too
AA obvious block pick on morph
Idk why table is hating on the hammer pango
I thought that was a creative idea
If they were actually doing well in the game they’d be jerking ice3 off
Nothing special, very easy
“AMMAR GO TO BED INSHALLAH”
Lmao
Man for 16 year old hes not a spaz

Like he is
Wtf
Hungry for wins
Like a giga nerd
He has played since he was 6?

Man
Ask him about the manta style
Ffs

Man this guys a fucking chad
“I dont remember i just enter game”

Vendetta
”Called my friend idiot”
Man im surprised he didnt type
I was hoping for something
Man should have asked about the manta 
If he built it with the specific goal of countering soulbind thats nuts lol
Probably did
I feel like his answer would be some shit like “i dont know i just saw manta and thought cool item”
Taking down secret is quite the statement
Ye i mean everyones just gonna 
They just played bad bro
Sumail and ice had some real bad games
Giga poor
Ye i mean bzm and ammar are old teammates
It sounded like they were friends before tho
Ye
Ik atf suggested bzm
Wasnt he a pubstar too
Bzm
Like top 20
Or something
Taiga did well
So weird seeing him with these pubstars
alrite I watched both games yesterday
they actually played pretty good lmao
Yuragi no fear
ATF was here for the revenge too, dissing Puppey and shit during after game itw 
yeh let's see how it goes, looking forward to see some good agressive doto, bollocks in
rooting for OG/Tundra/Liquid this season
just like last year
ye
3pm CET
pm user
15:00
nice games inc WEU side
EEU too, wanna see how Team Spirit will handle
shouldnt be too hard for them
Man i saw some clip of a pause in tundra vs alliance
Apparently alliance had all of tundra muted
So when tundra said “g”
No response

Mental warfare accomplished
@distant yoke pick phase rn
Ye i am watching


ikea table 
Swede gotta have ikea stuff
And liquid is our new national team, claiming matumba as honorary swede
comfy af 
as an old Na'Vi fan, I only know Funn1k in Coolguys
and Omar, only known by name though
why is ur tv so small/far away, why is ur table angled weird etc
why do you exist
I mean it looks smaller than it is
Its like 3.5 meter to the ceiling

swede homes are like 99% full white walls tbh
but push got them retirement home wallpapers
Boring soulless places
First person living here, opened 2020 
White walls is basically 2010 mode
Go live in nyc
Not very modern
sounds nice
You mean brooklyn
Wdym
Which is lefty hobo area
LIVE: Team Spirit vs Unique - DPC EEU Div 1 Winter Tour 2021/2022 w/ Lyrical & Trent
Team Spirit playing
Team Spirit fucking

looks dangerous indeed
he already apologized
you're part of an org
and you say shit like that in a pub game
wtf is wrong with you lmao
why cant you just keep your mouth shut
I remember
Playing dota with sebbe first time ever
Took 15 minutes for him to all chat and use gamer language

Alliance in shambles
their team is just bad
ah i see team tickles used the sf 1


1-2 
what happend with the guy who owned a dpc slot and invited full girl team
are they actually playing
think they got so much hate they dropped out
rightfully

all ancient or below ranks
apparently the managers wanted to highlight how broken the dpc system was

why cant u check
just tell me?

youre welcome
just a lucky game
ye thats why 5 man he plays with has like 90% winrate and this anonymous goes 30-0 every game
yeee
surely
just a prodigy
surelyh
cant wait to see him play next ti

its such an easy job of cutting smurfing but valve ofc cbas
its just so moronic to see it
yeah
i guess they think
needing a phone number and a decent-level account is enough
its probably 20-30 bucks max for shit account
that you can already queue ranked on
they would need to track it by tendencies like mouse movement, placement of items in eq but its very doable i think
i mean this guy is gonna get his acc banned
like you cant go 30-0 every game as crusader
it just wont go under radar rofl
Had same thing last night lol
Was playing ranked with friend and went vs 3 stack 2 games in a row
Crusader que’d with 2 ancients
Guy played meepo then io mid
LIVE: No Bounty Hunter vs Into The Breach - DPC WEU Winter Tour - DreamLeague Season 16
nigma lookin not good
in shambles
they dont have their best player
but even then i think they should've cut mind control
he is playing so bad for like 2 years now
fuckin hell
LMAO
big ol sadge xD
the real mvp there was misha
that save
jenkins 
"not a fan of.. murder"
im guessing taiga left by himself? or why would they have boxi swap to pos4 
or did they do le 
stfu
sd otp
i support the young og zoomers 
man
ammar just sitting in pitch black room

matumba still sporting that beard
neck beard very swag 
pos1 sf with qb 
it simply doesnt stun you on land anymore, to begin with
which was the main issue 
and doesnt deal dmg anymore too iirc, so you can basically blink out of it if you react fast enough
18 mil magnus
lmao bzm

One of the few people i used to watch stream dota back then. Always super nice and polite, rarely raged or tilted. Seemed like a genuinely nice person and was very entertaining
Ye this is so sad, dota twitter showed a lot of support and love for him
sad, is it known how he passed?
no it's not known and from what I read they want to keep it private to respect the loss of his family
yeah i mean
ive been through that situation a few times
theres really only one reason to not say what happened
Anyone watching oga dotapit
always on deck for some dotes
You like this og draft 
yeh I heard it, it was after their win vs. Secret
so yeh he's totally ready to switch anytime 
ember pos 4 clutch sleight of fist 
The fv 3 really working out with the 2 other cores lol
yeh and he built tanky item with halberd
draining attention whilst locking down targets
while drow/wind go pewpew
very annoying

Cool draft
Maybe
Idk they got their lanes clapped but
Still managed to pull it out cause draft diff
yeh indeed

hero is so good
multi tool shit, engage, save, purge over magic immunity, vision and zoning with poison
Ye and no one bans it for some reason lol
Even tho they show they love playing it
Spirit vs tundra 
Yuh
OD these days man
Collapse 
fucking galaxy strike upon your face
yeh the 1st blood was meme tier

you can feel the brutality in team spirit execution
actually scary to watch it, cant even imagine playing against that
5 juiced up ruskis zoomers hungry for blood
true it wouldve helped a lot
Lotus morph when he goes in for the risky business plays and doom basically has to doom himself
Grip auto cancels
That sanity eclipse on bat bot was hilarious
Od just walks down nonchalantly and just drops it
Instant death from half

Isnt it a decently sized tourney
Since they always seem to get the top teams to participate
I can send misery money for a proper mic
Man blasted my ears
Did og win?
Ye

With some jank draft
ye OG won
Ammar pos 3 fv
Pos 4 ember
Game 2 was also some experimental
Pos 1 void spirit lol
5 visage
Ye they lost that one but game 3 they shat on navi
They lost lanes but rolled them
After
Drow + wr just dunking while anmar just threatens chrono 
been a few days now but Yuragi reached top 1 MMR
and still is atm
you can read his play style comes from playing tons and tons of pub games it's insane 
Ye
They prob didnt expect to win inter and then they did and realized they’re actually insane
Mira gaming bingchilling fiends grip on hg

Nice chrono noob
When does truesight come out

Ye massacred them game 2
ye MC dropped Tide pogga
Nigma getting dabbed on a little 
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