with disruptor+cm
#Dota
vital pollen
tacit epoch
I don't think disruptor is that good atm
Fairly weak laner
That in theory has a great late game
But does it matter if you get lane stomped
vital pollen
its fine if you play it with a brawling safelaner
but void aint that
pair it with an ursa and itll go well
vital pollen
idk what they laned against
tacit epoch
Lemme check
vital pollen
losing lane once at this level doesnt mean its a bad lane
especially when youre against doom and its just
lots of creep RNG
disruptor alch works well as well
you just need a hero that can actually do burst damage when you glimpse someone
cuz with no guaranteed tomes
and the map being much bigger, you kinda have to max glimpse
tacit epoch
Is good
vital pollen
youre not gonna manfight an axe
errant tusk
losing lanes in this patch is so roughg
vital pollen
after he gets glimpsed back
tacit epoch
Feels like supports are suffering too much atm if lane goes wrong
tacit epoch
No tome to recover and they take your xp rune
vital pollen
and even then
its not enough to hit the lv6 powerspike as early as you used to
its also on the other side of the map for the pos5 so
tacit epoch
Cm slowly traveling to the rune while her pos 1 is being bodied in lane
vital pollen
pos5 gameplay in general is kinda awkward atm
wisdom goes to your pos4, but they already didnt struggle with hitting lv6 before
tacit epoch
Maybe they should move xp rune spot closer the lane
vital pollen
then its easier to steal
idk
i dont like wisdom runes as a replacement
for tome
tome should still exist
tacit epoch
Yeah tome was pretty reliable
vital pollen
and in pubs its not uncommon for your dogshit pos3 that doesnt play aura items, to just take your wisdom rune
tacit epoch
I get ppl not wanting to play aura offlaner
But man
You can feel the difference in a teamfight
vital pollen
love the midlane roam into triangle farm into wisdom rune snatch
but doesnt come to gank
but maybe thatll teach the pos4s to actually check power rune at 6
tacit epoch
Gorgc on the pannel
fallen token
Now yapzor steals the viewers
severe sail
This rosh situation is very funny
buoyant sage
they should have restart the game imho
it gave a clear advantage to the Radiant
which is already the winning side in the current meta
tacit epoch
Now yapzor steals the viewers
Yapzor and puppey in one stream
tender fox
Gorp should do like the chess streamers and let guests use his Chanel and split profit
Double dip
But prolly something against it in his contract
fallen token
it gave a clear advantage to the Radiant
I didn't watch it live but did it even matter? Did 9p even try and take the bugged rosh?
Also why my mk no press bkb
:(
buoyant sage
it did matter yeh, and even if they were having a rough game
it's not very professional to let roosh being stuck like that
so I would have given the order to restart the game imho
dire anchor
what the fuck is this IO/WD shit
what have i missed
diving and living under t1 tower at 6min for a minute
?!?!?!?!!?!?!
t4s dive
tacit epoch
I played with a friend who went WD offlane
dire anchor
12 min
tacit epoch
You just max heal and stack auras
dire anchor
am i watching a pub
tacit epoch
And never die
tacit epoch
Another gg vs liquid showdown
buoyant sage
it's a known strat since last patch
very smart from liquid to draw that pocket strat rn
9pandas certainly didnt see that coming
they even picked the best counter to it which is AA
buoyant sage
add one of the best pos 1 in current meta, Alchemist
and a destroyer of buildings
lone druid
ez clap
buoyant sage
ogre as in ogre magi?
dire anchor
ye
buoyant sage
it's still the same character
it just went from Int to Str hero
but his spell kit didnt change
dire anchor
so theres no wack pos 1 stack str perma multicast stuff?
buoyant sage
not yet at least
maybe someone already did that but
it would still be a cheese/pocket strat kind of thing
tacit epoch
Pos 3 ogre is fine
buoyant sage
if you intend to buy auras
stiff pebble
I'M SORRY IS THERE MONEY BEING SPENT ON THIS FINALLY?!!??!!!?
versed matrix
seattle 
errant tusk
dire anchor
NZ international when 
buoyant sage
"This year, the group stage kicks off on October 14th, with the playoffs to follow. Both of these events will run under one banner, The Road to the International.
The International itself will commence on Friday, October 27th and run through Sunday, October 29th."
versed matrix
I miss when it was in august
buoyant sage
gg Gaming Gladiators, nice run
clutch blast off by tofu
enjoyed watching some good dotka 
tacit epoch
Gg deserves the win
But man
Liquid just voluntarily stacked
For that last stun
Very disappointing from their part
buoyant sage
yeh I mean it was intense, one attention mistake, one placement error and its over
tacit epoch
But yeah GG are the best and they deserve that title
fallen token
I'M SORRY IS THERE MONEY BEING SPENT ON THIS FINALLY?!!??!!!?
https://youtu.be/...
I live an hour from seattle 
perhaps I go
stiff pebble
I live an hour from seattle <:dogeing:1095096656103481354> perhaps I go
Will probably be back there sooner rather than later though
vital pollen
overall poor performance and drafting from liquid imo
and zai needs to retire
man has no impact in any game
overall i just hope new patch fixes rosh imbalance and the aura meta a bit
tacit epoch
versed matrix
nigma balls
vital pollen
sumails joining aster
nigma loaning him out for rest of the season
and maybe is back
with a good team too it seems
"Somnus said he won’t ask for salary in this new team, he and Chalice and fy are all doing this for free. Cuz they just want to play in pro scene again, and he really wants to thx XG’s owner for his support. Somnus said they will participate in tour 3’s CN DPC "
stiff pebble
Mmmmmedusaaaaa
buoyant sage
tender fox
What spells do phys dam anyway
buoyant sage
quite a lot actually
stiff pebble
tacit epoch
https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_types#Physical
I assume there is a difference between spells and abilities right?
Does am manaburn trigger shroud?
vital pollen
dunno if those are considered spells tho
torn girder
Ye it might be considered a basic attack from them
vital pollen
stuff that scales off of attackdmg usually isnt a physical spell
its stuff like
slarder crush, quill spray, concoction
vital pollen
ye
theres a bunch more
but stuff like sleight wouldnt count since they use attack damage and modifiers, and iirc they dont do damage if youre disarmed either
distant yoke
is medusas split arrow considered a spell
buoyant sage
tacit epoch
fallen token
t2 carry. t2 midlaner playing offlane
not looking good
(im a hater)
should of got ammar
at least he can carry a game
torn girder
Pretty sure ppl do not enjoy playing with ammar
Hes on loan to quest now from nigma after being put on inactive
vital pollen
ye
makes me happy to see him fail
genuinely unlikeable person
cant wait for the same to happen to quinn
fallen token
Quinn is actually like a top 3 mid world tho
vital pollen
ye
ammar was toptier offlaner too
doesnt change that hes a vile human being
so is quinn
errant tusk
t2 carry. t2 midlaner playing offlane
they're just not quite t1 players
hence they fall to div 2 😄
but also its kinda rude i guess becuase EU is omega stacked
they'd be easioly competing for top spots in NA region
as i said multiple times i cant wait for orgs to send their players cynically to easy regions tbh
buoyant sage
https://youtu.be/v_oTfnRIjg4
lmao I bursted out of laughing watching this tbh
he has some punchlines ngl 
errant tusk
ye its great
my personal mega favourite is this idk peruvian or whatever south american tusk
HI MY NAME IS CCNC AND IM A FUCKING BIRJIN
BIRJIN BIRJIN IM BIRJIN 
errant tusk
ye he's well articulated
buoyant sage
insane
errant tusk
thats what makes it really funny
man when you look at this team
holy
so many major winners/ti winners in here
ppd did know how to build teams/who to play with
versed matrix
https://youtu.be/v_oTfnRIjg4
22 min compilation 
fallen token
so is quinn
NA changes a man
stiff pebble
I N C O M I N G
vital pollen
stiff pebble
Why...is this thread...a thing...
vital pollen
it was archived
fervent schooner
dire anchor
rough scaffold
@buoyant sage
Feel free to get the gang back together
Whoever was in here before
You can blame @arctic pawn because he deleted it on accident 
rough scaffold
You can blame <@!204390599472840706> because he deleted it on accident <:Smile:8...
buoyant sage
thanks a lot 
arctic pawn
lyric nimbus
D o t a
buoyant sage
Im summon the lads again then @torn girder @tender fox @distant yoke @vital pollen @marble notch
torn girder
marble notch
ty
torn girder
vel didnt delete it on accident 
arctic pawn
yeah i could say the same about your mother and you
arctic pawn
it's literally so close, it's like when you accidentally invite someone you're trying to inspect
buoyant sage
rough scaffold
arctic pawn
who's joe
rough scaffold
joe biden, president of the united states
arctic pawn
he on the hub?
rough scaffold
I hope not
vital pollen
marble notch
torn girder
tender fox
its literally u irl
torn girder
Youre bad
buoyant sage
tender fox
didnt they say already after ti that they will dissolve
vital pollen
ye
buoyant sage
ye but I just need some breaking news to live through the wait
s4 leaves Alliance too
torn girder
pref EU lol
distant yoke
NA in shambles
tender fox
so yatoro confirmed mid confirmed spirit disband
buoyant sage
tender fox
or he is gonna play with dendi supa mida
distant yoke
What are you even saying
buoyant sage
probably on crack
buoyant sage
mmmmmmh
vital pollen
imagine getting simped so hard that by minute 17 you have an aghs from alchemist
torn girder
Ye someone commented that exact thing
buoyant sage
well it's not like it's uncommon, I already saw that at 4k mmr
torn girder
just funny seeing simp alch when its basically fell out of meta
marble notch
they announced they were disbanding a while back
torn girder
Rip
buoyant sage
so many missed skewers in one pic
buoyant sage
torn girder
vital pollen
Any new shuffle stuff?
buoyant sage
nothing since s4 leaving alliance
still waiting for bigger fishes to see what they'll do
distant yoke
maybe teams have learnt that consistency is key
after these 2 years forced together
buoyant sage
as long as s4 is out of my sight
Im ok
but yeh, it's hard to make predictions even
torn girder
Did he retire or what
tender fox
he needs to go pos4/5 if he wanna continue
torn girder
Why
torn girder
When does truesight usually come out btw
distant yoke
pretty sure s4 was fired
distant yoke
i think bulldog wasnt very happy with s4
and he has some say in Alliance iirc
the decision making was off in both draft and gameplay, i remember some s4 moves where he plays a squishy 3 and just blinks into 5 heroes and dies in like 2 seconds, rest of his team wasnt/couldnt join him and they all get chased and picked off 1 by 1
happened way too often
particularly his fucking sand king games, man i just want to erase those from my brain
buoyant sage
I dont know if there was a beef between those two
all I know is he played terrible all TI10
distant yoke
idk if there is a beef, but i watched some bulldog streams on alliance games
and he wasnt very happy with s4, from what it sounded like. But bulldog is a big memer so perhaps half of it is just memes
normal sorrel
i think Bulldog and s4 were both playing for alliance in TI3 iirc
so they have a long relationship so i doubt s4 was just kicked out. It could be if his performance was low, but you know... seems strange
distant yoke
ye but thats 8 years ago
bulldog is a co-owner of alliance for that reason
but S4 isnt and idk if him and bulldog have any special ties except they played on the same team
buoyant sage
her skill set is out
aaaand a patch https://www.dota2.com/patches/7.30e
@errant tusk 
distant yoke
Offlane hero?
echo gate
that dash looks insanely strong
echo gate
45 mana cost on lifesteal 
torn girder
wait new hero released
distant yoke
Wait
Yes
Marci darci
Dadsen says support, then why does it have initiate skills and displacement stuff and is a tanky hero
Sure it can buff lifesteal
marble notch
imma play her 2
torn girder
oh god she has a throw
man they witness what magnus does with displacement
lets add more displacement
oh and its a save
pog
distant yoke
Does she have a shard
Or aghs
Yet
Inb4 the throw is increased to skewer levels of range with a shard
distant yoke
Her ulti seems useless unless you have some items
torn girder
I AM CLIMBING
distant yoke
Poggies
torn girder
wait she has a talent that makes her Q a 2.8 sec stun
vital pollen
Her ulti seems useless unless you have some items
i mean, in combination with her E
vital pollen
thats 300damage at lv7 if you go 1/1/4
torn girder
her talents
vital pollen
where do you see her talents?
torn girder
ye
that ability is going to be nerfed
16/14/12/10 90 mana
she gives a 1.75s spell immunity with lvl 20 talent lol
distant yoke
3 sec stun on 10 sec cd
torn girder
on the bounce
vital pollen
where talents
distant yoke
Her ulti reduces attack speed by 100 in aoe on level 3
torn girder
vital pollen
thanks
distant yoke
+50%?
Doesnt that make it 100 lifesteal
Her lvl 10 talents are quite insane for laning too
vital pollen
ye
laning
lv10 talent
are we playing the same game?
if youre laning at lvl10 youre doing smth wrong 
distant yoke
I dont play the game anymore so prob not
vital pollen
her E seems way too good
torn girder
ye youre not laning at lvl 10
vital pollen
12sec cd
torn girder
yea
vital pollen
her regular skills are low enough CD
torn girder
12 sec cd
vital pollen
that you can go 1-1-3
torn girder
6 sec duration
vital pollen
and just trade blows nonstop
and yeah
at lv6
you kill someone
with 1-1-3
dispellable tho
torn girder
ye idk what skill build youre going but the stun looks absurd
distant yoke
All her base stat shit seems good
torn girder
her W seems like a really high skill ability lol
vital pollen
.9 turnrate too
torn girder
her 2nd skill is sick as fuck lol
distant yoke
The jump?
torn girder
ye
distant yoke
Makes me think of a hon hero
torn girder
ye this hero is cool
distant yoke
Is her ulti 5x the aoe slow?
torn girder
aoe slow and attack speed slow
60/80/100 attack speed slow
which early game is an underrated debuff lol
distant yoke
Ye but does it trigger 5 times? I can only see a 5 above her head in the preview
torn girder
distant yoke
Or is that how many attacks it takes to trigger it
torn girder
dude playing it as a core rn
distant yoke
Did look like a pos 3
distant yoke
Can just give your support life steal to trade every 10 seconds or some shit
Ye but the hero
Not Gunnar
distant yoke
Surprised he gets to play it
torn girder
bro i tune into masons stream
vital pollen
nice to see that half a decade later hes still a massive tool
torn girder
and sumail just trolling him in chat after
distant yoke
Attack animation looks really cozy too
torn girder
ye its clean
vital pollen
her hair is fluttering nonstop in the portrait tho
distant yoke
Constant whistling
vital pollen
its like io or phoenix
torn girder
the constant whistling gonna drive ppl insane
lyric nimbus
wtf cooman raided him
Coom man?
tender fox
marble notch
distant yoke
she looks like one of those human female halloween masks in wow
lyric nimbus
https://twitter.com/tsunami643/status/1453920910474366982
I’d have to pay a taxi $20 to get from one eye to the other 
buoyant sage
I’d have to pay a taxi $20 to get from one eye to the other <:MonkaW:74824228486...
Twitter
marble notch
buoyant sage
torn girder
distant yoke
torn girder
her ult was fucking ridiculous amounts of damagfe
distant yoke
58% winrate as offlane
torn girder
imba
torn girder
@distant yoke https://youtu.be/6Ld9E3P8H8c?t=21
this is all you need to know about the hero
torn girder
Rip resol
distant yoke
@torn girder did they kill the hero with the nerfs or
torn girder
again
torn girder
ye
its also the fact people have been playing it like all week
and are figuring out how to play against it
vital pollen
compared to release phoenix or ES
those are rookie numbers
think i had like 80% winrate with ES in 50 games when it came out, while reddit was whining about how bad the hero is
hero had 40% winrate in low-tier brackets, and 70-80% in very high skill mmr
vital pollen
does he still have the worst music on a twitch stream imaginable?
inb4 you say "no, thats you"
marble notch
torn girder
misses creep "WHAT!"
torn girder
one day he'll win 
torn girder
buoyant sage
anyone else love watching rtz's streams
yeh I watched it until way too late in the night but it was cool
distant yoke
kinda weird that they posted a picture of their roster huh
buoyant sage
maybe it will not change
and the only announcement will be "we made Matu shave his beard and get a haircut"
vital pollen
Rip zai
buoyant sage
tender fox
did he leaveo r kick
buoyant sage
probably gently pushed out
distant yoke
has he been bad for secret or what
i always felt like their issue in the later games this TI was matumbaman
empty vault
tottenham fans, gross
marble notch
torn girder
Thats some bait
Jerax is done
Also nightfall on eg 💀
Hes a fucking pos 1 russian kid
buoyant sage
marble notch
Damn they finally fixed this bug
It’s been in the game so long
The guy who reproduced must feel so good lol
severe sail
marble notch
Ye saw that
torn girder
So they aren’t disbanding
marble notch
Seli is khezu hater #1
torn girder
Fucking khezu’s hair
marble notch
My king
torn girder
-quinn in some pub everyday
buoyant sage
Ccnc is cool I like him
I also don't have anything wrong against Khezu
Cool lineup to me
buoyant sage
Yeh, most players are in that case
marble notch
And ceb
distant yoke
johnny bravo
marble notch
Lmfao
buoyant sage
buoyant sage
Lmao
tender fox
so khezu became coach and forced ppl out to make rooom for himself
just to be kicked before ti later on
marble notch
buoyant sage
severe sail
marble notch
eg got that supervillain money
lyric nimbus
Sadly I'm at the bar rn
Damn bro I’m gonna need to go to a bar after today
What’s your favorite drink Dadsen?
torn girder
rtz stream
same shit same shit same shit
rough scaffold
buoyant sage
severe sail
The problem with bars is I have a better selection of booze in my apartment
marble notch
nice problem to have
distant yoke
what is this OG rumour
who is Hansha
who is ATF
and who is Misha
Legit only recognize Taiga on that list
torn girder
maybe some random pub players lol
distant yoke
Yea i looked it up
Hansha is some bulgarian pub star
Atf is some 16 year old gamer who became the youngest player in the dpc last season
And misha is their coach atm
torn girder
is notail retiring as player or what
vital pollen
Hopefully
tender fox
notail returning to pos1
distant yoke
so the leaks might be true
saksa, w33, handsken, nikobaby and lelis in alliance
sumail in secret
tender fox
all i posted was true
torn girder
This looks like a nice team
distant yoke
ye
buoyant sage
n0brain retiring
oh, you too?
tender fox
distant yoke
oh, you too?
Mostly memes ok, i dont dislike the guy
buoyant sage
buoyant sage
yeee watching R6 major rn tho
distant yoke
wait wtf
marble notch
(its a joke)
marble notch
torn girder
marble notch
apparently cr1t says hes staying with eg
marble notch
buoyant sage
torn girder
kunkka baby
vital pollen
torn girder
artourito
buoyant sage
Elephant is disbanding
buoyant sage
they wanted to stick together at first
torn girder
rip
tender fox
push drama queen
distant yoke
What
He said it on stream
”I didnt leave OG”
Alliance milking it until roster lock 
The leaks might be true
tender fox
Prison Arteezy is 1
tender fox
how do u get handsken to 2
distant yoke
why are all pro dota streamers perma muted
vital pollen
Cause people report them as a joke, which gets them muted
distant yoke
@torn girder man i can never play marci in anything but core role
torn girder
y not
distant yoke
idk
just doesnt work out
with no items she's squish and has to be in melee to do anything
unless ur just a lifesteal bot
but that doesnt feel very good
torn girder
idk lol
i heard laning against her is really cancerous
some pos 1's literally cant play the lane
you hit lvl 2 and just jump toss
jump toss
jump toss
torn girder
idk ur prob playing wrong or playign with bad players
errant tusk
i mean
imagine if ursa was added now
how mad would people be
how can his cds be so low 
marci is good but people dont know how to play against it yet either
i think it has some great matchupis
like playing melee on mid vs marci is kinda bad
because she just throws you under tower so its kinda meh
distant yoke
The throw is pretty coolio vs melee mid yep
torn girder
Ursa earthshock also isn’t even close to what marci jump is
distant yoke
I think the point was the frequent cds
torn girder
Sure but its short cd’s of diff abilities
distant yoke
and ursa is incredible strong no
distant yoke
he has been since the rework
more or less
"rework"
the buffs and jump on his lil earthshock
errant tusk
is the throw behind still a stun?
just make it a 100% slow or root
and its pretty balanced imo
also i hate talents that give bkb
like 25 talent i hate because its bkb
same for lc shard
i hate it coz its bkb
think its way too good having bkb as your shard/talent
vital pollen
yeah i never understood the full bkb thing
on certain spells
just make it like loa shield, make it a dispel
so you can dispel intiiations or stuns reactively if played well
but giving someone full immunity, even if its just for 1-2sec, is way too powerful imo
torn girder
is the throw behind still a stun?
Yea still a stun
And it 100% should not be
Its a displacement ability that ALSO stuns
Just way too powerful
And its on a low cd
Marci has her throw, rubick has his lift 
vital pollen
Its a displacement ability that ALSO stuns
i wonder where else i heard that
torn girder
Where else did you hear that
vital pollen
torn girder
Oh ye very epic
vital pollen
they literally changed horntoss
to not be a stun anymore
then make new hero
with same ability
torn girder
And she by default has an easy way to get on top of you
And it doesn’t turn on at 20 mins for 1400 gold
She just has it XD
vital pollen
no skewer tho
torn girder
True
Seems like most ppl just pick ursa or mk into her
is some factor of new hero syndrome going on for sure tho
Where ppl not playing against her right
torn girder
Ye undying natural counter
buoyant sage
tender fox
the beard was a brand risk if ive ever seen one
buoyant sage
ikr
vital pollen
Rip mobambo
Always liked his sacrificial carry play style. Reminded me a lot of fear.
marble notch
lol
vital pollen
torn girder
Huh
vital pollen
thats an interesting team
did EG announce that fly is leaving?
cuz if not, then we know now
tender fox
if eg dont dump bulba also
they will still be shit
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWVZYzJIq19/ prolly just confirming yapzor stays but cool art
also only these were locked in for EG 14h ago
so was kinda confirmed
so ice to secret plausible unless he wanna see his family more cus i dont think they moved with him
tender fox
confirmed
distant yoke
you troll
tender fox
tender fox
new china team and paparazi mid gamer now
vital pollen
damn
tender fox
imagine GH miracle coming back
errant tusk
nigmas offlaner played really bad
during quals
he cost them the quals tbh
played really bad
distant yoke
MC?
buoyant sage
mind control is their offlane ye
tender fox
and push never believed me ....
errant tusk
sumail in secret would be so sick i think
has to be sumail
if nisha going back carry
errant tusk
ye i think so aswell
tender fox
he still played pos1 but from mid lane
buoyant sage
yday 21:06 u said troll again when i linked it
errant tusk
he still played pos1 but from mid lane
thats completely not true
sometimes ok sure
he was given stuff like puck for example too tho
sure you can play TA like 1
from mid
tender fox
i mean he basically had farm priority over matumba at all times over the map
errant tusk
its just how farm on map works sometimes where you'd value midlaners timing over anything
but if matumba plays morphling he gets the farm
normal sorrel
love this thread. I don't have a lot of time to be up to date on doto but reading this is like my daily dose, my newspaper. Much lof ❤️
errant tusk
buoyant sage
torn girder
Nightfall pos 3 
That sounds so dumb
I still dont believe jerax is coming back
Oh god nightfall got moved to inactive today
Its probably true
buoyant sage
uh oh
tender fox
i already told u the oucome 1 month ago
torn girder
Shut up old
torn girder
good one XD
distant yoke
so the OG leak might be true too
cus there was a guy named ATF
in that leak
short for Ammar The Fucker
very.. nice name
vital pollen
ana
torn girder
tender fox
Its ame
marble notch
tender fox
Nice touches
buoyant sage
ye
tender fox
when was the lock in day
torn girder
buoyant sage
3 letters, Ame confirmed to OG 
buoyant sage
lmao Idfk
but if it's that
oh boi
I mean it could not right, since PSG said they stick together
ahhh
torn girder
Theres no shot right
buoyant sage
yeh I dont think it's that, it just crossed my main for a sec because I know that Ame means rain thanks to my weeb vibe
but it's also an anime reference about grief, so they'll just announce that notail ceb and topson wont play for og anymore
lets gamble
torn girder
buoyant sage
distant yoke
Ceb said he is not in og anymore
On stream
At least
My bet is that the zoomer squad for OG is legit
The leak from like a month ago
5 new players
One of them a 16 year old pubstar
tender fox
Its ame
just saying
imagine OG full china team located in EU
would be insane
but psg.lgd alrdy confirmed team to stay intact iirc
buoyant sage
yeh they did shortly after TI
distant yoke
They havent locked in their team yet tho
buoyant sage
OG just tweeted about Ceb retiring