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tundra just has a few bigbrains
that arent afraid to take risks and try shit
even with fata back before they got saksa
cuz like
mechanical skill wise
there not the best team for sure
same as OG wasnt
but doesnt matter in dota
which is why dota is so awesome
strategy is very important too for sure
dont have to be the omega gamer with inhuman reaction and skillshot accuracy
macro understanding of the game
tundra won most games by just having a good draft and not throwing
very few
theres like
maybe 5 people id say have that level of understanding of dota
puppey, maelk, aui, ppd, ceb
ye i was gonna say there is more fingers on your hands than people macro understanding the game
it just wasnt ever needed to be developed
id say not even xiao8 has the best grasp on the game, not anymore
for top players to be relevant in pro scene
hes just always with a team with 5 super talented players that make it look easy
yeah typically its enough for a coach to have that skillset imo
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justi n time with the arcana release
but i see 33 never takes MS talent on level 20
on dota pro tracker
he always takes ult interval

doesn't ursa shred razor through everything?
why tf is sniper let through every game
i click ban
and he is picked
and i want to scream
i should start picking him just cause i know they will pick him mid 2nd round

Better sniper than razor
id rather play against razor
at least i can fucking see him when he's killing me
sniper being a full screen away disgusts me
he should be like tiny
the more levels in E the shorter his range
so he's melee
(i know thats not how tiny works but growth, range w.e)


Still does, since nigma prides themselves on their inclusiveness, pushing diversity in esports and generally being a brand that considers political correctness very highly.
Atf makes no sense in that team, except for his player skill.
thats easy fix
have clause in contract that he cant do that and if he fails then he's out
and he's good enough to gamble on him with that
Still a big brand risk
Obviously you can take contractual obligations and everything, but atf does not strike me as a player who has any respect for that stuff. He's a ticking time bomb for a scandal to happen, sponsors are hard to come by these days and inviting a player like that is a gambit
which they should take any day of the week
coz they're dogshit and he will make them better team
If they lose sponsors over it, that's not worth. Tournament money is a drop in the bucket compared to sponsorships
But ye, we will see
nigma balls
back to pos1?
or maybe micke back to pos1 
during podcast with boom guy from og basically said sth along thel ines
'what does secret have to do to stop liquid from stealing their players'

ye
its either that or nisha pos 1
doesnt matter
nisha can play both to highest level anyway
secret had success with nisha on both positions iirc

quin to gamin gladiators 
that ruski stack looks crazy on paper
but i dont truśt gpk that guy has some real issues
also pretty random but fun
xd


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSU1lHV9Gx4 so unexpected
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micke1 nisha2?
ye
DM to OG, hmm
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imagine they will win ti12
open qual for what, some major qual alrdy?
noone pos1 feels weird
and that he didnt join a ruski team unless he burned all bridges
dota frens 

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NEVA EVA
moon
this made me very nostalgic for hon holy

rise oh dota thread
POG

fishman ayeee
haha so fucking mad
ive never gotten this mad over a video game
this man plays dota every day 8h/day for 10 years
honestly
he's doing so good for having so few clips liek that 
poor dondo
dondo trying to reason dentge ppl
how is that not mad
and u wonder why u have bad behavescore
My bs is 8.5k green try again
It's funny though
"Look at portrait of your mother shes a dog"

its not that uncommon behavior tbh
but
on the other hand its very high bracket they usually play with same people
so its diff
i mute people way faster myself
they probably give each other multiple chances as you know tilts happen 
people cross lines
New cache dropped
I'll probably get some to finish out my BL levels for void arcana
anyone here got doom cache set 2020?
I do
why new caches is so trash

omw to yermany ig
liquid vs tundra about to start
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Secret 0-6 so far 
3 BOs lost 0-2 in a row, rough start
where nisha
God tier vacuum
Interesting how i was bitching about lina scaling too quick and easy during ti and new meta is lina 1 


Surely dota is due for a number patch
March probably
@torn girder
game 2 they let Lina open again

free MMR
2-0, 30 min games
ciao
is this league?
OG vs Entity starting
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@torn girder

i played my 1st game in ages
and 1st thing i did was 1st pick razor
banned
2nd thing i did pick liuna
banned

Razor has been figured out
But when the Lina ban doesn't go through
You get into a wild ride
Lina has been broken for awhile just no one tried her in pos 1
Fiery soul is legitimately disgustingly imbalanced
Perma haste rune movement and double moonshard attack speed at lvl 7
🙂
Drow seems to handle Lina quite well tho
spell lina BIS
after playing dota almost everyday for like 18 months straight I have played 2 games since df prepatch came out
:)
Unending tiebreaker
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Lol
yeh saw it last night, was entertaining
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i havent played/watched much dota since the end of TI. other than lina is the meta any different?
Ye kind of
Think theres good amount of heroes that fell off and some heroes that gained
But i haven’t kept up super actively
Riki mirana f.ex is pretty powerful supp combo these days
Dp 3 is picked a lot
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oh shit lima major started
yes, splitted streaming channels 
Fun seeing troll warlord getting picked
Troll warlord my beloved
Cannot wait for his ult rework next patch
I just want proper hard carries to be good at least a little
Well spectre is good
Don't know if I want a medusa meta
Other carries have their niche
In pretty specific games tho
5th pick and no one stops you
Idk about hard carries
From a support pov it's much more fun when you core can actually do something in lane
Yeah true. Just wish the game would slow down just a bit
Have they gone up recently?
I'll be honest I haven't played much since df launch
Most games I watched/played felt pretty over by 30 mins all that was left was actually killing the ancient
Occasionally it would be longer
Been having fairly long games recently
I wanna know why teams started picking up troll in the major
Which game has troll?
Never see that hero be good consistently lol
Usually if it wins its not cause of the troll pick
Hero is usually just complete garbage
I can just imagine rn
Troll warlord presses his ult, runs in with bkb, then a fucking tusk with aghs just comes up to him and boot fucks him away and troll is now unable to play the game
He is simply too kiteable
Well you don't press ult for damage
Just use it as a cheat death
And net piercing bkb is pretty big
Root enemy core and chop him down
Inb4 enemy core is lina and just walks away at 550 ms
havent watched dota in a while but
looks like meta basically
is still the same
as it was 3y ago
or last TI
It's still
Same heroes on every position
Only supports changed slightly but like
Supports always had the widest pool of choices
i really wished there was a patch before major
but i'm suprised a portion of the dota community is ok with patch launcing after major "because it would disrupt profesional preparation"
cuz iirc there was a patch-during-major moment before (i think it was on the Texas major?)
which means the fast-adapting teams like Spirit or Tundra/OG gets an upper hand
cause this is how its been for a decade now
dota is tuned around competitive play
always has been
There also been faster patch cycles
so its like
everybody knows we patch for competitive play changes, so like, making changes before a tourney to fuck over competitive players is very counterintuitive
does cosmetic content like sorts of aghs lab need to be delayed for competitive games?
I sort of get tuning around competitive play but in this context it's taking forever to release new content
Sadge
I assume this will include the other esports they do as well?
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Weird how they tweeted this like
Less than 2 months ago
Think that was before they got dropped from dpc?
They already didn't get a single DPC tournament last year
i dont think its weird
they were looking for contracts
they didnt get any and didn't forsee getting any new ones so they had to close
Well sure but
Idk, just odd to be like "super excited for 2023" and then you have 1 event and you deadge
the passage of time eludes me
they rely on fan content too much. RIP
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yeah I mean
that's one of the worst changes league has ever done I dunno why valve would copy
because overwolf shows players best heroes in the span of 2 seconds
so it makes it way easier to target bans
had a bit of impact on mid counterpicking
because you'd queue mid, ban enemies best midlaner and pick something that other picked heroes would struggle with
like I could see your my enemy midlaner hataro
ban qop
counterpick ta
wcyd
I'll pick lina then
gg you lose

I guess it doesn't really matter that much honestly, in league you straight up can't even see the names of people till you're in the game so you can't op.gg them
ye it's, special
that rtz rosh play was insane
Ye

SR vs Liquid starting now
Brain says liquid will win but heart goes to SR
I love rtz but I love all liquid players 
Artour gotta win one
riki crowd
riki production
riki game
lina enigma tiny tusk
how
exciting
oh look, puck/ench/pango on top

i really hope
next patch after this major
actually shakes up meta properly
maybe even some new feature
been a while since we had major features like talents or neutral items
The troll ult rework is coming
Maybe if they can get bloodmist right bs could have an alternative playstyle
theres just
so many carries and og mid heroes
that are completely unplayable
cuz the carry hero pool is so fucking small
mid as well
pango puck storm ember dp razor lina
seemst o have been
mid heroes for the last
3 years
void spirit when he was broken in comp
Tiny the staple hero
leshrac here and there
well the issue is its more so just on and off
its not all those heroes all being very good all the time
its like maybe 4-5 of them per patch
always dope to watch some dotka but holy shit
the production of this tournament
when we had stuff like AniMajor last year

You watch gorgc stream instead
Just watching russian guy instead 
nisha morph
spoke too soon, fed his ass off
surely abed leaves this team
saberlight is an npc player
both him and rtz
rtz has
1 good game
every 5games maybe
im sure this
no-bkb TA
wont die
right?
right?
when you just get
blink ava combo'd
or blink tossed into gust
even with nisha actual match fixing at the start they find a way to lose
disgraceful
abed please leave
he buys bkb and drow cant play ever until enigma blink is off
solo morph or solo drow
and then what
morph aint dying
to a TA solo core
drow isnt gonna die either
with undying heal
you play TA into 2 high agi heroes
as solo carry
and enigma into a team that is not gonna stack at all
cuz you have a snapfire 2k range away
an undying who is standing 1k range behind his team
and 2 ranged carries
who you gonna blackhole
like, saberlight is playing like an NPC, yes
drow like i said, you can also pilot the fight in a way where its not solo lol
but this is a dogshit enigma game
drow aint gonna die in a blackhole, and even if she does, you have 2-3 heroes stacked on top of the enigma then. thats prime tombstone+snap situation
drow against primal beast and TA should die in a black hole yes
unless she presses bkb b4 black hole
eat 5 ticks from snap ult
and are half hp
and then morph cleans up
while they have 5 undying zombies on them
with a no bkb TA
you're speaking from the perspective of an even match 
this game should have been over 10 mins ago if abed wasn't the only player on shopify
10k networth is worthless when you have rtz still trying to get 6 slot on TA and saberlight
you dont close out the game
with a solo building hitter
unless you win a fight
you saw what happened in that first fight
where ta had aegis
the only saving grace there
was the 3man cookie from rubick
SR has no building pressure
no splitpush
they kept control of the map for 15min cuz they have tusk/primal intiiation, and then when they have to actually push T2s, they dont ahve shit
this game was lost when they decided to play like absolute pussies with a 10k lead at 20 mins lol
power treads drow 
barely survived cuz ravage cookie
they got creamed cause they suck at using their spells
ye
everything else disgraceful
not a good rubick game
shit spells to steal
just overall
much better draft from liquid
nisha literally match fixing and still somehow lose cause 0 confidence in self and each other
this is the first time ive seen the enigma
push sidelines with eidolons
but still
they tried twice to close out teh game
once with aegis, and barely got out
then without, and it was a 0 kill teamfight
cuz abed didnt wanna commit with bkb+haste
so if anyone threw this game
it was abed
being a pussy
i dont even know
what he played linkens for
ye i just dont know how you play like a pussy this game with their draft lol
idk
like that was the only misplay i feel
from SR
that they didnt commit with abed being at 8sec bkb and haste
you have a pos 1 that wants to build like 2 items and go
and instead they do a teamfight where everybody disenages with 20% hp
the tusk is more of a defensive hero in thsi game tho
to save from toss initiations
idk
i just dont get
the pos3 enigma in games like this
it does nothing
same as last game
nice itemization
by rtz
but people will blame supports again
even though it was rtz and abed making bad choices all game
ye idk how abed wasn't just fucking the drow every early fight
pt dragon lance drow
spooky
well mostly
that they didnt have anything to deal with tombstone
so if he hard commits in
and undying drops the stone
theyre not getting out of that fight
and you play into double dragon lance+cookie+undying
its very hard to actually catch anybody there
the dragonlance from morph was super high value in those early fights
now its gonna be
3hrs until next series
Sumail reaction to not having a BKB on CK vs Entity
and
puppey reaction to sumail not having a bkb on ck
if it isnt obvious, it is a joke vid guys
Secret vs Entity CK fail in DPC 2022
@errant tusk
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ye
Time to show SA who's the true EG
idk if this is the draft they will do it with xd
kinda dont want eg to win
just so we have
emptry crowd again
didnt think id prefer no crowd over peru crowd but
the whistling and smoke giveaways are kinda ridiculous
and EG is a solid team, they dont need that kind of help
arent they in sound proof booths?
theres not really a thing like that
theyre designed to muffle words and caster noise
but vibrations or very loud consistent sounds you cant filter with a run of the mill soundproof booth
basically, the issue is always the same. the issue in soundproofing isnt the headphones, its the microphones picking up the sound while you talk to your team
avoiding them to pick up words and using some noise gate software isnt that hard, but with constant droning or whistling noises in this case its very tough to get it right, especially when you dont know what itll be, if its vibrations from people jumping/drumming etc. or some other kind of "giveaway"
glad to see crit going glimpse max on disruptor
im seeing sooo many disruptors max thunderstrike and its so trash
shopify draft is just bleh
qop actual piss hero
dont tell hataro

think
qop isnt even that bad in this game
safelane prophet is just
why
just to pick np 
hero isnt even tghat good
people shitting on saberlight but
hes playing a great game
hit some sick pits
i havent seen
prophet impact yet
think rtz shouldve played pike in this game
the force wouldve been such big value
now he has a satanic but no damage
god i wish
he died there
without using bkb
rtz just cant carry games
ye
well
EG is finally winning because of bulba drafts
weve wanted it for years
couldve literally just
put rtz top on NP
and underlord vs brood
artour nonono
Saberlight having a crazy good game
this game 
Rtz completely useless unless his entire team saves and carries him
peru crowd 
you flame rtz but pakaz is equally clownish
Oh for sure
if he has satanic game is over but he goes some clown items
But people haven't been sucking his dick for almost a decade now
also yea crowds in sa is dogshit
was same in csgo major
Everytime I watch rtz
i mean outside of mageslayer, most of my NP in pubs would do the same
they just help home team
With the worst positioning
Saberlight playing sick game. Saved them a lot of fights
arturo es mi idol
well happy for shopify tbh they finally won legit bo3
Np, snap, void, timber
it was lasy pick furion in game 3
ye cllock
Ah
they had clock all three games
Don't think I've seen the hero all game
talon will probably delete them
but regardless gaimin gladiators gonna win tourny now that boxi is out
yep, either you drop to Talon or Entity. Whoever goes through that series
ye he had no impact 2nd gamę either
Ye
on clock
Just seems like a bit of a useless pick if all you do is hookshot, cog the hero into your team, die
if pakaz goes daedalus or small crit and satanic instead of skadi mageslayer they win the game during that weird buyback mid standoff
he would have gotten one or even two satanic used
But that skadi
uses*
Scythe or crit
skadi is good Item in most of the games just not this one
he has gleipnir sprout and clock to lock his targets tbh
Ye
Legit just think
Crit or even mkb
Would've been better choices here
Just more damage
also crits tiny was rly insane
Ye
Everybody in Sr played well except rtz
So deserved win
Imo
Rtz just gets caught with his pants down so many times
in game two they forced some stuff too early and missed a lot of aa combos
He can't play from behind when farm is limited, he just dies in obvious spots
i think rtz is still a good player but he should move more into matumbaman type carry
there is so many talented kids on mid nowadays
Rtz needs to play 3
he could prolong his career so much and play in actual winning team
but that's only how i feel so god knows maybe im cucked
but i think scene lacks matumba type carries
oh ye also i think if shopify had pure they would be much bettter
pure in my opinion is the best carry
Ye
and would suit their playstyle
Reso best carry actually
But yeah
Like
I get that playing carry is hard
Cause mistiming bkb etc is game losing
Cause the enemy teams attention is on you
But like
If you make obvious positioning or itemization errors
I feel like the shouldn't happen at that level
eg unnderperformed i think idk feels like nerves got them because home crowd
You get smoked? Okay, i understand. You farm where your T2 used to be and died to snap initiation? You failed.
i think they had the game ąfter taking rax and securing comfy gold lead
you need bkb on every core nowadays
damn talon is heating up
ofc free game
rtz 
they still got top four so better than expected
teams get last pick and they pick some cucked stuff
luna lastpick made no sense
just like dawnbreaker last pick made no sense game before

wth is that comp
why is he waiting
10seconds to fissure
????
he just waits for linato kill his support
before he casts a single spell
no clue actually
I dont if whe got nerfed but seems still pretty strong
and a disputed pick for a few months now so I wonder when you're down 0-2
if you just ban or pick no matter what
that looks giga over
zai doesnt wanna use skills
roof doesnt either
wow
theyre winning fights when they use abilities
cosmetic bkb again tho
shaker blinks in and casts fissure which takes 3 years to cast
and lina no bkb
yeah
cause zai is a bot
they get LSA into 3hero avalanche
and he fissures
blocks his tiny off
so he cant melee anymore
:)))
so they only get 1kill instead of 2
hard to hit good fissure
on heroes that are stunned for2 seconds
also no idea why micke would throw his tree
when he is hitting 3 heroes
is there a reason he has dragonslave at lv3?
at lv25?
gg
liquid couldve had this actually
but shaker and roof were just bots the first 20mins
when quinn wins a major you know game is dead
haha the trophy broke

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won major

Have to ban lesh and brood vs gg
Why they don't pick it
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Patch today
Inb4 "Lina -1 armor"
Hope it's big enough for some major changes, with some new shit, map changes in dire jungle etc
map changes 

what time is patch
there's gonna be a new hero too that's cool
Map changes are needed for sure
The radiant jungle feels so bad to farm/stack compared to dire jungle
The troll warlord ult rework
I lowkey hope they don't buff pa tho
Despite being garbage she's still a very popular pick
And I don't wanna live in a pub world where pa is good and is in every game
After last 2 big "patches"
I'm very skeptical
Think icefrog has left the building. Not literally but, seems like he's either happy with current state of affairs that we've had for almost 2y or is just phoning it in
I heard on gorgcs stream that a valve dev mentioned everytime they make massive changes they keep losing players
So there's definitely hesitation to do massive shakeups
They're losing players now
hard to get new players when you dont do any advertising at all
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there's no shot
dont think so
its ok
they will release battle pass
and people will happily swipe anyway
thats why i stopped buying and unsubbed dota+ too
I was really hype tbh to come back and play
There's a cosmetic chest (x
this actually killed my hype and made me want to play league again
at least riot updates their game
horribly
but they do it
Well Io finally got a skin
logging onto dota to cancel my plus thats been running for 5 years
then i am uninstalling this shit
sounds like bullshit
the actual balancing changes could prob have been done in an 8 hour workday
last time i played dota 2 was before wow expansion that for sure
i play csgo now 
better game to be casual at
For sure, something like 32.e shouldn't have taken this long
Not like you're gonna get an opportunity to play muerta anyway
Just gonna be banned almost every game

Clinkz buff might be significant
oh well at least DF is good and I can level my alts till the new poe league

poe is fine
best advertising for poe is coming in june

well now I know its dogshit
:3
this league did look kinda good. tho
ppl will prob play d4 for the graphics alone
last league was good I just didn't play cause DF dropped
I mean people will play d4 for the name
the majority
then a month later unless the game is giga it will be dead
just like d3
putting faith in blizz to not make a game you abandon after 1 month
funny cause I only played DF cause i promised myself i wouldnt play the POE league because every league since ultimatum ive had less and less fun in
idk d3 was kinda poppin for a good while
yeah like 10 years ago
3.13 self poison coc canyon farming :(
i hate being on the downswing of something
just feels so bad to see something you enjoy become worse and worse
there isnt even anything that wrong with dota but games like that cant exists without changes imo
learning the new patch is half the fun
new patches help returning players get into the game again
bigger shakeups of the meta encourages ppl to try it again because everyone kinda starts anew
As much as I hate riot sometimes
Their approach certainly makes the game feel more alive
Patches every 2 weeks. Even if some of the changes are mostly placebo
Yeah they are
You'll be happy tho
Lina nerfed
They hit fiery soul and the talent
expected that secret would make some drastic changes
they did rly poorly this season
(so far)
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