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vital pollen
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yeah

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tundra just has a few bigbrains

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that arent afraid to take risks and try shit

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even with fata back before they got saksa

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cuz like

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mechanical skill wise

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there not the best team for sure

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same as OG wasnt

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but doesnt matter in dota

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which is why dota is so awesome

errant tusk
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strategy is very important too for sure

vital pollen
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dont have to be the omega gamer with inhuman reaction and skillshot accuracy

errant tusk
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macro understanding of the game

vital pollen
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tundra won most games by just having a good draft and not throwing

errant tusk
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few people have grasp on it

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tbh

vital pollen
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yeah

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absolutely

errant tusk
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very few

vital pollen
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theres like

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maybe 5 people id say have that level of understanding of dota

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puppey, maelk, aui, ppd, ceb

errant tusk
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ye i was gonna say there is more fingers on your hands than people macro understanding the game

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it just wasnt ever needed to be developed

vital pollen
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id say not even xiao8 has the best grasp on the game, not anymore

errant tusk
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for top players to be relevant in pro scene

vital pollen
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hes just always with a team with 5 super talented players that make it look easy

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yeah typically its enough for a coach to have that skillset imo

tight sluice
tight sluice
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new meta bloodstone razor

tacit epoch
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justi n time with the arcana release

errant tusk
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33 casually trying out razor and coming up with meta breaking build

buoyant sage
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crack broken hidden OP 33 new build?

errant tusk
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but i see 33 never takes MS talent on level 20

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on dota pro tracker

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he always takes ult interval

tight sluice
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@buoyant sagecasual 9% winrate increase

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actually almost 10%

buoyant sage
fast marsh
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Now I gotta perma ban razor

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Pog

tacit epoch
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doesn't ursa shred razor through everything?

tight sluice
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how u gonna shred him

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when he just links u

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lmao

tacit epoch
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abyssal

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get the jump on him

fast marsh
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why tf is sniper let through every game

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i click ban

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and he is picked

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and i want to scream

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i should start picking him just cause i know they will pick him mid 2nd round

tight sluice
tacit epoch
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Better sniper than razor

fast marsh
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id rather play against razor

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at least i can fucking see him when he's killing me

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sniper being a full screen away disgusts me

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he should be like tiny

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the more levels in E the shorter his range

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so he's melee

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(i know thats not how tiny works but growth, range w.e)

buoyant sage
errant tusk
tight sluice
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nigma topson?

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actually no cause sumail is staying on as pos2

errant tusk
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that atf info doesnt sound as stupid anymore

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coz he wants to play pos 1

tender fox
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def didnt call it years ago

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thought he would r eplace mc though

vital pollen
# errant tusk that atf info doesnt sound as stupid anymore

Still does, since nigma prides themselves on their inclusiveness, pushing diversity in esports and generally being a brand that considers political correctness very highly.

Atf makes no sense in that team, except for his player skill.

errant tusk
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thats easy fix

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have clause in contract that he cant do that and if he fails then he's out

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and he's good enough to gamble on him with that

vital pollen
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Still a big brand risk

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Obviously you can take contractual obligations and everything, but atf does not strike me as a player who has any respect for that stuff. He's a ticking time bomb for a scandal to happen, sponsors are hard to come by these days and inviting a player like that is a gambit

errant tusk
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which they should take any day of the week

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coz they're dogshit and he will make them better team

vital pollen
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If they lose sponsors over it, that's not worth. Tournament money is a drop in the bucket compared to sponsorships

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But ye, we will see

buoyant sage
versed matrix
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nigma balls

errant tusk
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so in the end its atf

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even tho its not said its nearly confirmed its liquid nisha

tender fox
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back to pos1?

errant tusk
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no clue

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but nisha is basically confirmed in liquid

tender fox
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or maybe micke back to pos1 Hmmm

errant tusk
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during podcast with boom guy from og basically said sth along thel ines

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'what does secret have to do to stop liquid from stealing their players'

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ye

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its either that or nisha pos 1

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doesnt matter

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nisha can play both to highest level anyway

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secret had success with nisha on both positions iirc

errant tusk
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my streamer strongegg

tight sluice
tender fox
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quin to gamin gladiators Hmmm

errant tusk
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dendi gonna beat rtz

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to steal his TI slot in NA

tender fox
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what pos is dendi playing now

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actually still mid lol

tender fox
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Also scary

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But pos5 tokyo

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Topson and noone in a team alsl

errant tusk
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that ruski stack looks crazy on paper

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but i dont truśt gpk that guy has some real issues

tender fox
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also pretty random but fun

versed matrix
tight sluice
errant tusk
buoyant sage
vital pollen
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micke1 nisha2?

errant tusk
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ye

versed matrix
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DM to OG, hmm

tacit epoch
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W33 to team bald

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Div 2 looking Hella fun with oldG joining

versed matrix
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shopify rebellion then

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is the org

errant tusk
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flip colours

tacit epoch
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candy works blesses with a second arcana 🙏

sand compass
errant tusk
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in open quals

tender fox
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open qual for what, some major qual alrdy?

errant tusk
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for div2

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i think

tender fox
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noone pos1 feels weird

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and that he didnt join a ruski team unless he burned all bridges

fallen token
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dota frens starege

stiff pebble
tight sluice
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NEVA EVA

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moon

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this made me very nostalgic for hon holy

echo gate
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rise oh dota thread

fast marsh
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POG

echo gate
errant tusk
buoyant sage
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fishman ayeee

tender fox
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haha so fucking mad

errant tusk
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@vital pollen this is actually me

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except i dont say dog

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i say worse stuff

tender fox
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ive never gotten this mad over a video game

errant tusk
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this man plays dota every day 8h/day for 10 years

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honestly

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he's doing so good for having so few clips liek that KEKL

vital pollen
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poor dondo

buoyant sage
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dondo trying to reason dentge ppl

tight sluice
tender fox
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how is that not mad

tight sluice
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That's like. Normal talk to me for mobas

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That isnt mad

tender fox
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and u wonder why u have bad behavescore

tight sluice
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My bs is 8.5k green try again

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It's funny though

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"Look at portrait of your mother shes a dog"

errant tusk
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its not that uncommon behavior tbh

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but

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on the other hand its very high bracket they usually play with same people

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so its diff

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i mute people way faster myself

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they probably give each other multiple chances as you know tilts happen LULE

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people cross lines

tight sluice
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New cache dropped

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I'll probably get some to finish out my BL levels for void arcana

sand compass
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anyone here got doom cache set 2020?

fallen token
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I do

sand compass
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why new caches is so trash

buoyant sage
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omw to yermany ig

vital pollen
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so

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no PGL

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for any major

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interesting

buoyant sage
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Secret 0-6 so far toasted

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3 BOs lost 0-2 in a row, rough start

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where nisha

torn girder
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God tier vacuum

buoyant sage
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man

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Nisha snatched the aegis with a stolen X mark the spot

vital pollen
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ye that was

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kinda ridiculous

torn girder
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Interesting how i was bitching about lina scaling too quick and easy during ti and new meta is lina 1 hmmCoffee

tender fox
tight sluice
torn girder
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Surely dota is due for a number patch

tacit epoch
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March probably

fallen token
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buff pl

buoyant sage
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@torn girder

torn girder
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Fiery soul busted

buoyant sage
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free MMR

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2-0, 30 min games

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ciao

vital pollen
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is this league?

buoyant sage
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idk ITB just got steam rolled tbh

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laning, team fights, pace, draft

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also Lina lul

tight sluice
buoyant sage
tight sluice
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@torn girder

errant tusk
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i played my 1st game in ages

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and 1st thing i did was 1st pick razor

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banned

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2nd thing i did pick liuna

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banned

torn girder
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Fiery soul

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Too op

tacit epoch
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Razor has been figured out

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But when the Lina ban doesn't go through

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You get into a wild ride

torn girder
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Lina has been broken for awhile just no one tried her in pos 1

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Fiery soul is legitimately disgustingly imbalanced

tacit epoch
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Perma haste rune movement and double moonshard attack speed at lvl 7

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🙂

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Drow seems to handle Lina quite well tho

vital pollen
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spell lina BIS

fallen token
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after playing dota almost everyday for like 18 months straight I have played 2 games since df prepatch came out

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:)

tacit epoch
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Unending tiebreaker

torn girder
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ye rofl

fallen token
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Lol

vital pollen
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Oh someone already posted

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Kek

buoyant sage
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yeh saw it last night, was entertaining

fervent schooner
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SR might legit lose to Nouns

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Not looking good for Lima

tacit epoch
tacit epoch
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there's a date

errant tusk
tight sluice
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march

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6

buoyant sage
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Lima Major this week

fallen token
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i havent played/watched much dota since the end of TI. other than lina is the meta any different?

torn girder
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Ye kind of

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Think theres good amount of heroes that fell off and some heroes that gained

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But i haven’t kept up super actively

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Riki mirana f.ex is pretty powerful supp combo these days

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Dp 3 is picked a lot

tacit epoch
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Marci pos 1 is a thing

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Bursts the ranged carries like Lina or drow really fast

fervent schooner
vale vector
torn girder
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oh shit lima major started

buoyant sage
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yes, splitted streaming channels TrollDespair

tacit epoch
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Fun seeing troll warlord getting picked

fallen token
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Troll warlord my beloved

tacit epoch
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Cannot wait for his ult rework next patch

fallen token
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I just want proper hard carries to be good at least a little

tacit epoch
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Well spectre is good

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Don't know if I want a medusa meta

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Other carries have their niche

fallen token
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I just wanna play am and pl

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And troll

tacit epoch
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Am is playable

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Pl can cheese wins

fallen token
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In pretty specific games tho

tacit epoch
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5th pick and no one stops you

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Idk about hard carries

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From a support pov it's much more fun when you core can actually do something in lane

fallen token
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Yeah true. Just wish the game would slow down just a bit

tacit epoch
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Well it's pretty slow

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Games are around 40 mins

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Even longer

fallen token
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Have they gone up recently?

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I'll be honest I haven't played much since df launch

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Most games I watched/played felt pretty over by 30 mins all that was left was actually killing the ancient

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Occasionally it would be longer

tacit epoch
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Been having fairly long games recently

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I wanna know why teams started picking up troll in the major

fallen token
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Which game has troll?

torn girder
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Never see that hero be good consistently lol

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Usually if it wins its not cause of the troll pick

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Hero is usually just complete garbage

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I can just imagine rn

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Troll warlord presses his ult, runs in with bkb, then a fucking tusk with aghs just comes up to him and boot fucks him away and troll is now unable to play the game

tacit epoch
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He's a lane winner

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Just the ult hold him back

torn girder
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He is simply too kiteable

tacit epoch
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Well you don't press ult for damage

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Just use it as a cheat death

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And net piercing bkb is pretty big

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Root enemy core and chop him down

torn girder
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Inb4 enemy core is lina and just walks away at 550 ms

vital pollen
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havent watched dota in a while but

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looks like meta basically

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is still the same

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as it was 3y ago

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or last TI

tacit epoch
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kinda

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wp is dead but greaves is the new aura

vital pollen
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It's still

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Same heroes on every position

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Only supports changed slightly but like

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Supports always had the widest pool of choices

tacit epoch
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i really wished there was a patch before major

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but i'm suprised a portion of the dota community is ok with patch launcing after major "because it would disrupt profesional preparation"

tender fox
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long neck in psg.lgd

errant tusk
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@vital pollen

fervent schooner
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which means the fast-adapting teams like Spirit or Tundra/OG gets an upper hand

vital pollen
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dota is tuned around competitive play

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always has been

tacit epoch
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There also been faster patch cycles

vital pollen
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so its like

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everybody knows we patch for competitive play changes, so like, making changes before a tourney to fuck over competitive players is very counterintuitive

tacit epoch
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does cosmetic content like sorts of aghs lab need to be delayed for competitive games?

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I sort of get tuning around competitive play but in this context it's taking forever to release new content

fallen token
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Sadge

buoyant sage
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oh ye I saw this, a part of history is gone today

fallen token
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I assume this will include the other esports they do as well?

vital pollen
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Weird how they tweeted this like

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Less than 2 months ago

fallen token
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Think that was before they got dropped from dpc?

vital pollen
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They already didn't get a single DPC tournament last year

royal forge
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i dont think its weird

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they were looking for contracts

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they didnt get any and didn't forsee getting any new ones so they had to close

vital pollen
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Well sure but

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Idk, just odd to be like "super excited for 2023" and then you have 1 event and you deadge

fallen token
fervent schooner
tacit epoch
tight sluice
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copying league

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except why tho, is dodging a problem in dota?

tender fox
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more about target banning spammers i think

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guess tehy cried alot

tight sluice
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yeah I mean

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that's one of the worst changes league has ever done I dunno why valve would copy

tacit epoch
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because overwolf shows players best heroes in the span of 2 seconds

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so it makes it way easier to target bans

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had a bit of impact on mid counterpicking

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because you'd queue mid, ban enemies best midlaner and pick something that other picked heroes would struggle with

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like I could see your my enemy midlaner hataro

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ban qop

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counterpick ta

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wcyd

tight sluice
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I'll pick lina then

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gg you lose

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I guess it doesn't really matter that much honestly, in league you straight up can't even see the names of people till you're in the game so you can't op.gg them

tacit epoch
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Lina is permabanned in my games

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(unless the ban doesn't go through

fervent schooner
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this major's production Laughge

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rather watch mdi

buoyant sage
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ye it's, special

fallen token
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that rtz rosh play was insane

torn girder
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Ye

buoyant sage
buoyant sage
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SR vs Liquid starting now

tacit epoch
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Brain says liquid will win but heart goes to SR

buoyant sage
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I love rtz but I love all liquid players Life

tacit epoch
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Artour gotta win one

vital pollen
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riki crowd

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riki production

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riki game

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lina enigma tiny tusk

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how

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exciting

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oh look, puck/ench/pango on top

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i really hope

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next patch after this major

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actually shakes up meta properly

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maybe even some new feature

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been a while since we had major features like talents or neutral items

torn girder
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ye

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like 2 years now i think

tacit epoch
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The troll ult rework is coming

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Maybe if they can get bloodmist right bs could have an alternative playstyle

vital pollen
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theres just

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so many carries and og mid heroes

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that are completely unplayable

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cuz the carry hero pool is so fucking small

torn girder
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ye

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feels like every patch now for a while the carry hero pool is really piss

vital pollen
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mid as well

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pango puck storm ember dp razor lina

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seemst o have been

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mid heroes for the last

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3 years

torn girder
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void spirit when he was broken in comp

tacit epoch
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Tiny the staple hero

torn girder
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leshrac here and there

vital pollen
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oh ye lesh+void

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i mean

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thats a fairly sizeable pool

torn girder
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well the issue is its more so just on and off

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its not all those heroes all being very good all the time

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its like maybe 4-5 of them per patch

buoyant sage
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always dope to watch some dotka but holy shit

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the production of this tournament

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when we had stuff like AniMajor last year

tacit epoch
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You watch gorgc stream instead

torn girder
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Just watching russian guy instead kekman

torn girder
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nisha morph

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spoke too soon, fed his ass off

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surely abed leaves this team

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saberlight is an npc player

vital pollen
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both him and rtz

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rtz has

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1 good game

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every 5games maybe

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im sure this

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no-bkb TA

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wont die

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right?

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right?

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when you just get

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blink ava combo'd

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or blink tossed into gust

torn girder
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even with nisha actual match fixing at the start they find a way to lose

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disgraceful

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abed please leave

vital pollen
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idk

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this is a horrible

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enigma game tho

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same as last one

torn girder
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wdym he buys bkb and no one can turn black hole off

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lmao

vital pollen
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okay

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and who is he gonna blackhole

torn girder
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he buys bkb and drow cant play ever until enigma blink is off

vital pollen
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solo morph or solo drow

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and then what

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morph aint dying

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to a TA solo core

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drow isnt gonna die either

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with undying heal

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you play TA into 2 high agi heroes

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as solo carry

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and enigma into a team that is not gonna stack at all

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cuz you have a snapfire 2k range away

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an undying who is standing 1k range behind his team

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and 2 ranged carries

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who you gonna blackhole

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like, saberlight is playing like an NPC, yes

torn girder
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drow like i said, you can also pilot the fight in a way where its not solo lol

vital pollen
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but this is a dogshit enigma game

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drow aint gonna die in a blackhole, and even if she does, you have 2-3 heroes stacked on top of the enigma then. thats prime tombstone+snap situation

torn girder
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drow against primal beast and TA should die in a black hole yes

vital pollen
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yeah okay, and then in that same time

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primal and ta and enigma

torn girder
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unless she presses bkb b4 black hole

vital pollen
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eat 5 ticks from snap ult

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and are half hp

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and then morph cleans up

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while they have 5 undying zombies on them

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with a no bkb TA

torn girder
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you're speaking from the perspective of an even match lul

vital pollen
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ye

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cuz this match was even

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that 10k networth lead was

torn girder
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this game should have been over 10 mins ago if abed wasn't the only player on shopify

vital pollen
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pretty worthless

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they have no highground push

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you play into tony

torn girder
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10k networth is worthless when you have rtz still trying to get 6 slot on TA and saberlight

vital pollen
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you dont close out the game

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with a solo building hitter

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unless you win a fight

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you saw what happened in that first fight

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where ta had aegis

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the only saving grace there

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was the 3man cookie from rubick

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SR has no building pressure

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no splitpush

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they kept control of the map for 15min cuz they have tusk/primal intiiation, and then when they have to actually push T2s, they dont ahve shit

torn girder
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this game was lost when they decided to play like absolute pussies with a 10k lead at 20 mins lol

vital pollen
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i mean

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they tried pushing t2 with aegis

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and got creamed

torn girder
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power treads drow monkaSHAKE

vital pollen
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barely survived cuz ravage cookie

torn girder
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they got creamed cause they suck at using their spells

vital pollen
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drow is just playing HP

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just gotta tank up

torn girder
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1 good spell use entire game

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1 cookie

vital pollen
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ye

torn girder
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everything else disgraceful

vital pollen
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not a good rubick game

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shit spells to steal

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just overall

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much better draft from liquid

torn girder
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nisha literally match fixing and still somehow lose cause 0 confidence in self and each other

vital pollen
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this is the first time ive seen the enigma

torn girder
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rtz playing for 6 slot on ta

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insane

vital pollen
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push sidelines with eidolons

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but still

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they tried twice to close out teh game

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once with aegis, and barely got out

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then without, and it was a 0 kill teamfight

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cuz abed didnt wanna commit with bkb+haste

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so if anyone threw this game

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it was abed

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being a pussy

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i dont even know

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what he played linkens for

torn girder
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ye i just dont know how you play like a pussy this game with their draft lol

vital pollen
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idk

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like that was the only misplay i feel

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from SR

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that they didnt commit with abed being at 8sec bkb and haste

torn girder
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you have a pos 1 that wants to build like 2 items and go

vital pollen
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and instead they do a teamfight where everybody disenages with 20% hp

torn girder
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your mid laner is an all gas hero

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same with your 4

vital pollen
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the tusk is more of a defensive hero in thsi game tho

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to save from toss initiations

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idk

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i just dont get

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the pos3 enigma in games like this

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it does nothing

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same as last game

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nice itemization

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by rtz

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but people will blame supports again

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even though it was rtz and abed making bad choices all game

torn girder
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ye idk how abed wasn't just fucking the drow every early fight

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pt dragon lance drow

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spooky

vital pollen
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well mostly

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that they didnt have anything to deal with tombstone

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so if he hard commits in

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and undying drops the stone

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theyre not getting out of that fight

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and you play into double dragon lance+cookie+undying

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its very hard to actually catch anybody there

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the dragonlance from morph was super high value in those early fights

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now its gonna be

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3hrs until next series

vital pollen
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@errant tusk

vital pollen
torn girder
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ye

fervent schooner
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Time to show SA who's the true EG

torn girder
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idk if this is the draft they will do it with xd

vital pollen
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kinda dont want eg to win

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just so we have

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emptry crowd again

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didnt think id prefer no crowd over peru crowd but

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the whistling and smoke giveaways are kinda ridiculous

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and EG is a solid team, they dont need that kind of help

torn girder
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arent they in sound proof booths?

vital pollen
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theres not really a thing like that

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theyre designed to muffle words and caster noise

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but vibrations or very loud consistent sounds you cant filter with a run of the mill soundproof booth

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basically, the issue is always the same. the issue in soundproofing isnt the headphones, its the microphones picking up the sound while you talk to your team

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avoiding them to pick up words and using some noise gate software isnt that hard, but with constant droning or whistling noises in this case its very tough to get it right, especially when you dont know what itll be, if its vibrations from people jumping/drumming etc. or some other kind of "giveaway"

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glad to see crit going glimpse max on disruptor

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im seeing sooo many disruptors max thunderstrike and its so trash

torn girder
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shopify draft is just bleh

versed matrix
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if you pick pos 1 furion

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you deserve to lose 200%

torn girder
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qop actual piss hero

vital pollen
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dont tell hataro

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think

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qop isnt even that bad in this game

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safelane prophet is just

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why

torn girder
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just to pick np lul

vital pollen
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hero isnt even tghat good

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people shitting on saberlight but

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hes playing a great game

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hit some sick pits

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i havent seen

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prophet impact yet

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think rtz shouldve played pike in this game

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the force wouldve been such big value

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now he has a satanic but no damage

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god i wish

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he died there

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without using bkb

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rtz just cant carry games

torn girder
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LMFAO

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holy fuck thats too funny

vital pollen
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ye

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well

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EG is finally winning because of bulba drafts

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weve wanted it for years

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couldve literally just

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put rtz top on NP

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and underlord vs brood

torn girder
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old faithful bulba pick

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ABED STORM

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saberlight 🤖

errant tusk
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its last pick storm

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in kinda free game

vital pollen
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yeah but

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then you dont play euls or bkb

vital pollen
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Hahaha rtz

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Farming that lane

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Feeding aegis and kill

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Losing game

fervent schooner
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artour nonono

vital pollen
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Saberlight having a crazy good game

fervent schooner
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this game spincernedfrog

vital pollen
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Rtz completely useless unless his entire team saves and carries him

fervent schooner
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peru crowd hehehehehe

errant tusk
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you flame rtz but pakaz is equally clownish

vital pollen
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Oh for sure

errant tusk
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if he has satanic game is over but he goes some clown items

vital pollen
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But people haven't been sucking his dick for almost a decade now

errant tusk
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also yea crowds in sa is dogshit

vital pollen
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Ye

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But like

errant tusk
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was same in csgo major

vital pollen
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Everytime I watch rtz

fervent schooner
errant tusk
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they just help home team

vital pollen
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I don't get why people hype him up

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Cause he's just a clown

fervent schooner
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same applies for Brazilian CS/Valorant crowds

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ngl

vital pollen
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With the worst positioning

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Saberlight playing sick game. Saved them a lot of fights

errant tusk
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so many cosmetic bkbs

fervent schooner
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arturo es mi idol

vital pollen
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What was egs 5th hero? Clock?

errant tusk
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well happy for shopify tbh they finally won legit bo3

vital pollen
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Np, snap, void, timber

errant tusk
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wasnt very high quality tho i feel like

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furion

vital pollen
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Can't even remember what their 5th was

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Np

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Did they have clock?

errant tusk
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it was lasy pick furion in game 3

fervent schooner
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NA can go far

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not sure if top3 tho

errant tusk
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ye cllock

vital pollen
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Ah

errant tusk
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they had clock all three games

vital pollen
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Don't think I've seen the hero all game

torn girder
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but regardless gaimin gladiators gonna win tourny now that boxi is out

fervent schooner
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yep, either you drop to Talon or Entity. Whoever goes through that series

errant tusk
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ye he had no impact 2nd gamę either

vital pollen
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Ye

errant tusk
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on clock

vital pollen
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Just seems like a bit of a useless pick if all you do is hookshot, cog the hero into your team, die

errant tusk
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if pakaz goes daedalus or small crit and satanic instead of skadi mageslayer they win the game during that weird buyback mid standoff

vital pollen
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Ye

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I liked the mageslayer

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Vs Zeus/luna

errant tusk
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he would have gotten one or even two satanic used

vital pollen
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But that skadi

errant tusk
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uses*

vital pollen
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Rtz didn't even have satanic

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So what's the skadi for

torn girder
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just the slow

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against ranged cores

vital pollen
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Scythe or crit

errant tusk
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skadi is good Item in most of the games just not this one

vital pollen
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Infinitely better

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Scythe gives almost same HP anyway

errant tusk
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he has gleipnir sprout and clock to lock his targets tbh

vital pollen
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Ye

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Legit just think

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Crit or even mkb

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Would've been better choices here

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Just more damage

errant tusk
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also crits tiny was rly insane

vital pollen
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Ye

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Everybody in Sr played well except rtz

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So deserved win

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Imo

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Rtz just gets caught with his pants down so many times

errant tusk
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in game two they forced some stuff too early and missed a lot of aa combos

vital pollen
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He can't play from behind when farm is limited, he just dies in obvious spots

torn girder
errant tusk
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i think rtz is still a good player but he should move more into matumbaman type carry

vital pollen
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Yeah

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Honestly

errant tusk
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there is so many talented kids on mid nowadays

vital pollen
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Rtz needs to play 3

errant tusk
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he could prolong his career so much and play in actual winning team

vital pollen
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Ye

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Just do

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The fear/matu thing

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Even loda

errant tusk
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but that's only how i feel so god knows maybe im cucked

vital pollen
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They all played low farm prio carry

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And won ti

errant tusk
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but i think scene lacks matumba type carries

vital pollen
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With it

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Bulldog was pos1 for alliance

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Sumail for eg

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Miracle for liquid

errant tusk
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oh ye also i think if shopify had pure they would be much bettter

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pure in my opinion is the best carry

vital pollen
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Ye

errant tusk
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and would suit their playstyle

vital pollen
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Reso best carry actually

errant tusk
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they still play 4 protect 1

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kinda

vital pollen
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But yeah

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Like

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I get that playing carry is hard

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Cause mistiming bkb etc is game losing

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Cause the enemy teams attention is on you

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But like

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If you make obvious positioning or itemization errors

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I feel like the shouldn't happen at that level

errant tusk
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eg unnderperformed i think idk feels like nerves got them because home crowd

vital pollen
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You get smoked? Okay, i understand. You farm where your T2 used to be and died to snap initiation? You failed.

errant tusk
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i think they had the game ąfter taking rax and securing comfy gold lead

vital pollen
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Void needed bkb imo

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But yeah anyway

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Sleep time

errant tusk
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you need bkb on every core nowadays

vital pollen
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Yep

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Maybe not sniper

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But yeah

errant tusk
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some few exceptions but bkb is do big

errant tusk
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damn talon is heating up

errant tusk
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this feels so weird because of standin situation

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if anyone is watching

vital pollen
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ye

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kinda watching

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MDI and dota at same time kekdog

tender fox
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lol tofu just started playing with a ball no hands on mouse or keyboard while alive

errant tusk
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ofc free game

vital pollen
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rtz PepeLa

errant tusk
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they still got top four so better than expected

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teams get last pick and they pick some cucked stuff

torn girder
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Luna

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Earthshaker

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They were match fixing pretty hard

errant tusk
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luna lastpick made no sense

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just like dawnbreaker last pick made no sense game before

wide geode
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Muerta incoming.

tight sluice
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new battlepass?

torn girder
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lol

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meme 3rd match

buoyant sage
torn girder
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ready to go home comp

buoyant sage
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wth is that comp

vital pollen
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this is actually

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gonna be a fun game

buoyant sage
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arent you supposed to perma ban lina these days

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or pick her

vital pollen
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why is he waiting

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10seconds to fissure

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????

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he just waits for linato kill his support

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before he casts a single spell

vital pollen
buoyant sage
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I dont if whe got nerfed but seems still pretty strong

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and a disputed pick for a few months now so I wonder when you're down 0-2

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if you just ban or pick no matter what

errant tusk
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that looks giga over

buoyant sage
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yeh

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rough Sadwokege

vital pollen
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zai doesnt wanna use skills

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roof doesnt either

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wow

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theyre winning fights when they use abilities

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cosmetic bkb again tho

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shaker blinks in and casts fissure which takes 3 years to cast

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and lina no bkb

buoyant sage
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yeh I mean

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wd + wisp + undying

errant tusk
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rofl

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they dont even win that fight

vital pollen
#

yeah

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cause zai is a bot

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they get LSA into 3hero avalanche

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and he fissures

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blocks his tiny off

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so he cant melee anymore

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:)))

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so they only get 1kill instead of 2

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hard to hit good fissure

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on heroes that are stunned for2 seconds

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also no idea why micke would throw his tree

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when he is hitting 3 heroes

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is there a reason he has dragonslave at lv3?

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at lv25?

buoyant sage
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gg

vital pollen
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liquid couldve had this actually

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but shaker and roof were just bots the first 20mins

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when quinn wins a major you know game is dead

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haha the trophy broke

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fitting end to this major

errant tusk
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my straemer

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won major

fallen token
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Why they don't pick it

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

torn girder
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Patch today

tight sluice
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let's fucking go

vital pollen
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Inb4 "Lina -1 armor"

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Hope it's big enough for some major changes, with some new shit, map changes in dire jungle etc

errant tusk
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map changes Clueless

buoyant sage
tight sluice
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what time is patch

tight sluice
errant tusk
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normally they release them in around 7-8 ish hours from now

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id say

tacit epoch
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Map changes are needed for sure

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The radiant jungle feels so bad to farm/stack compared to dire jungle

tight sluice
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I'm hype as fuck

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Hopefully we get some good shit

tacit epoch
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The troll warlord ult rework

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I lowkey hope they don't buff pa tho

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Despite being garbage she's still a very popular pick

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And I don't wanna live in a pub world where pa is good and is in every game

vital pollen
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After last 2 big "patches"

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I'm very skeptical

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Think icefrog has left the building. Not literally but, seems like he's either happy with current state of affairs that we've had for almost 2y or is just phoning it in

tacit epoch
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I heard on gorgcs stream that a valve dev mentioned everytime they make massive changes they keep losing players

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So there's definitely hesitation to do massive shakeups

vital pollen
#

They're losing players now

fallen token
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hard to get new players when you dont do any advertising at all

buoyant sage
#
errant tusk
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thats so underwhelming

tight sluice
#

LMFAO

#

no

errant tusk
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everyone expects map changes

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and big meta swings

tight sluice
#

there's no shot

errant tusk
#

meanwhile they do this

tight sluice
#

everyone expecting huge patch 7.33

#

is there a battle pass

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lmao

errant tusk
#

dont think so

tight sluice
#

valve literally abandoning dota 2

#

you hate to see it

errant tusk
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its ok

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they will release battle pass

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and people will happily swipe anyway

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thats why i stopped buying and unsubbed dota+ too

tight sluice
#

I was really hype tbh to come back and play

tacit epoch
tight sluice
#

this actually killed my hype and made me want to play league again

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at least riot updates their game

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horribly

#

but they do it

tacit epoch
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Well Io finally got a skin

tight sluice
#

at least I'll have reddit comments to read for the next few days

distant yoke
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feel like ppl got baited

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sure the hero is nice and all

tight sluice
#

I'm sad for you guys ngl

#

Valve literally phoning it in

distant yoke
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i mean i havent played dota in a year

#

gave up long time ago

#

just like valve

tight sluice
#

I played the fuck out of it

#

before and after TI

errant tusk
#

i dont play dota either

#

dont care

distant yoke
#

logging onto dota to cancel my plus thats been running for 5 years

#

then i am uninstalling this shit

tacit epoch
#

Still disappointed

distant yoke
#

sounds like bullshit

#

the actual balancing changes could prob have been done in an 8 hour workday

errant tusk
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last time i played dota 2 was before wow expansion that for sure

#

i play csgo now LULE

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better game to be casual at

tacit epoch
#

For sure, something like 32.e shouldn't have taken this long

#

Not like you're gonna get an opportunity to play muerta anyway

#

Just gonna be banned almost every game

tight sluice
tacit epoch
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Clinkz buff might be significant

tight sluice
#

oh well at least DF is good and I can level my alts till the new poe league

fallen token
distant yoke
#

poe

#

another ded game

fallen token
#

about to go play fucking warframe mang

#

cant take this shit no more

tight sluice
#

best advertising for poe is coming in june

fallen token
#

:3

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this league did look kinda good. tho

distant yoke
tight sluice
#

last league was good I just didn't play cause DF dropped

distant yoke
#

over poe

#

ppl as in the casuals

tight sluice
distant yoke
#

the majority

tight sluice
#

then a month later unless the game is giga it will be dead

#

just like d3

#

putting faith in blizz to not make a game you abandon after 1 month

fallen token
tight sluice
#

ye

#

smile

#

I still miss bleed bow glad

#

to this day

#

from 3.13

distant yoke
#

idk d3 was kinda poppin for a good while

tight sluice
#

yeah like 10 years ago

distant yoke
#

well ye it has no end game

#

no surprise there

#

ppl still play it

tight sluice
#

anyways

#

dota thread

fallen token
tight sluice
#

I was just making a joke

#

fucking valve

#

this is funny

fallen token
#

i hate being on the downswing of something

#

just feels so bad to see something you enjoy become worse and worse

#

there isnt even anything that wrong with dota but games like that cant exists without changes imo

#

learning the new patch is half the fun

distant yoke
#

new patches help returning players get into the game again

#

bigger shakeups of the meta encourages ppl to try it again because everyone kinda starts anew

tight sluice
#

As much as I hate riot sometimes

#

Their approach certainly makes the game feel more alive

#

Patches every 2 weeks. Even if some of the changes are mostly placebo

torn girder
#

bruh a letter patch 💀

#

wow thats hilarious people probably fucking malding

tight sluice
#

Yeah they are

#

You'll be happy tho

#

Lina nerfed

#

They hit fiery soul and the talent

vital pollen
#

Told ya

vital pollen
errant tusk
#

expected that secret would make some drastic changes

#

they did rly poorly this season

#

(so far)

vital pollen
#

still