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tight sluice
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Was she this OP before the changes with her q and w. When I started her stun was on q

vital pollen
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was worse

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cuz it was target stun

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just like old magnus horntoss

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this aint much better tho

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cuz you cant disrupt marci during rebound

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so she will stun you

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other heroes that have a blink or charge or wahtever, you could counter with instant disables that disrupt the hero mid-air

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i.e. if a bara charges at you, or a magnus skewers, primal beast charge etc.

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if youre not already hit, you can hex and youre fine

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not with marci

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theres 2 initiations in this game that are beyond dogshit, thats void timewalk cuz hes entirely immune during it, so you cant even target him, and marci rebound

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cuz it hits no matter what

tight sluice
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Void shard

vital pollen
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but i mean, rebound+dispose are still fine

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its sidekick thats beyond ridiculous

tight sluice
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I'll need to keep playing marci until they nerf her.

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I wonder what the new hero will be like

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any of you manage to roll arcana

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In the candy shop?

tacit epoch
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Capped on rerolls no arcana

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But picked up a lot of nice skins on the way

fast marsh
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they wouldnt stop buying rapiers

versed matrix
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whats the deal with quick cast? I used to always play without it before. Now I turned it on for every spell. Are there spells I 100% dont want it for like marci rebound?

stiff pebble
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Anything with a large cooldown that's positioned is probably a bad idea until you're used to the range and radius, like chronosphere.

tight sluice
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I think like Mars arena

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If you wanna do the venn diagram with refresher

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But uh. Quick cast is just better 100% of the time

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With Marci rebound, you can hold the button it will show where you will land

versed matrix
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yeah I figured that out after a few uses, used to be no vector spells like this

tight sluice
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Vector casting is weird with quick cast.

buoyant sage
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all my spells were on quick cast when I played league, literally never did it for any spell in dota

tight sluice
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Yeah see that's why I'm used to vector casting I played alot of viktor

buoyant sage
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quick cast in dota feels not-a-good-thing

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same for HoN

tight sluice
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I cant play without quickcast

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It's so weird

buoyant sage
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the fact that you can cancel most spells in dota justifies the use of regular casting settings

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how many times I press S during a game to be sure to be precise at the right time

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like potm arrow for ex

tight sluice
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Ye

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I mean I get it if you're comfortable with it.

I try to make the game as close to league in terms of controls as possible

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It made the transition back easier.

I even have my map on the right hand side

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Although that shit is annoying af cause of the quick buy menu

buoyant sage
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understandable, Im just saying that overall you'll be better/more precise if you can cancel all your spells

simple example : you wanna shadow strike someone with > target gets lotus orb'd > you cancel spell animation at the last moment to not take your own strike

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it's a habit to take, requires a bit of reaction time

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but it's really doable

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it's like lowering your mouse sensitivity on a FPS like CS

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you'll be way more precise

tender fox
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wdym animation is so long u can can cancel it with quickcast easily to

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bad example

buoyant sage
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didnt ask

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for your input

tight sluice
buoyant sage
stiff pebble
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There are some methods to get used to casting vector cast stuff with the faster cast options but it just takes getting used to it, it is kind of weird

vital pollen
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idk

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quickcast is just superior

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for many many things

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dota is a game where any small advantage counts, so not having to release a button or click it before skills actually cast, is pretty important

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i.e. if you prepare to insta hex someone, expecting them to blink in, you just cant do that without quickcast

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theres a few exceptions where precise targeting is important, like chrono, i agree

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but vector targeting in particular is so good in dota

stiff pebble
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dracthyr_sip Ye

vital pollen
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cuz quickcast vector casting you just hold the key and it doesnt cast until you release

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so you can stop at any point by issuing a stop command

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they changed vector quickcasting a year ago or so, took some getting used to

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used to be you that you activated the skill and it wouldnt cast until you clicked your mouse to confirm, which was better for marci and worse for all other vector casting skills

torn girder
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I quick cast

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Can still stop spells if i want

vital pollen
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yeah, the fact you can still stop almost all spells with the few exceptions of spells with no castpoint, just makes quickcasting superior imo

tender fox
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whats instant other than rubick

versed matrix
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yeah thats why I went with everything quick cast this time

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but I didnt know how vector spells worked so I couldnt use marci jump at all

vital pollen
tender fox
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hex ofc what else RHmm

vital pollen
tender fox
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well thats a lot of non targetable

vital pollen
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yeah

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targetable its stuff like lion/rhasta hex, lich sinister gaze, everything on rubick, dk/alch stun

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sky slow as well

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and tiny stuff

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which is one of the most annoying ones

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mostly cuz targeting avalanche is a bit awkward since it has longer range than it has castrange

tight sluice
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I find toss weird with quick cast

vital pollen
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toss without quick cast is trolling

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just means whoever you wanna toss has more time to react if you have to click your mouse first

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avalanche one of the few spells to not be affected by status resistance

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and you can only bkb between the first and second tick of it

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cuz game weird

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think tiny stun is actually the only non-ultimate disable in the game thats not affected by status resistance

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oh and sinister gaze

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thats why lich so so nice vs ursa EZ

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full duration sinister gaze during ursa ult

tacit epoch
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is there a default keybind to toggle spells like jinada or walrus punch?

versed matrix
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should be alt mod

vital pollen
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theres a hotkey

versed matrix
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like for orb skills

vital pollen
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that when pressed with a toggle-able skill puts it on auto-cast

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for any leshrac enjoyers, in case you didnt know it yet

tacit epoch
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seems it's alt+ the spell keybind

vital pollen
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this is some good shit as well

stiff pebble
versed matrix
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so dotabuff shows nonranked games with ranked terminology?

tender fox
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well its hidden mmr there also

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so i guess it just shows avg of known or something

tight sluice
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@buoyant sage I want it

stiff pebble
buoyant sage
tight sluice
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Its prob gonna be like $50-$100

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I just checked a bunch of the cache ultra rares on the store this morning they all go in that range

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How does cache work. Is it like a lootbox you have to buy separate from the BP

versed matrix
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I have no idea what the tier progression is

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in ranked

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all I know is im dog tier

tight sluice
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Its like

Herald > Guardian > Crusader > Archon > Legend > Divine > Immortal

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Oh sorry I missed ancient between legend and divine

tender fox
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time to see if work laptop can run dota2 PEPW

versed matrix
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probably, anything ca

tender fox
tender fox
tight sluice
tender fox
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work laptop

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120fps on 2nd lowest settings

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playable

tender fox
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is a win 25 or 20%

tender fox
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hmm a visage almost solo won fucking 70 min game

versed matrix
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bruh nobody wants to pick even in non ranked games

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I pick sniper they get pango, tide, beast troll

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and my team goes necro

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and techies that goes EB so im countered by my own team too

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xdd

tight sluice
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Dota just needs to adopt the same pick bans as league

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Like

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The pick ban in league is 10000x better.

I hate PB in pubs in dota

vital pollen
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i dont even know why AP is the default ranked gamemode these days

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RD is just so much better

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but almost nobody plays it anymore

tight sluice
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Random draft?

vital pollen
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ye

tight sluice
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What

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Isnt that where heroes are just randomed

vital pollen
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no

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thats all random

tight sluice
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What's random draft

vital pollen
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random draft offers you 33 heroes out of the entire heropool, and then you pick 1/2/2/2/2/1 heroes alternating between teams

tight sluice
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No bans?

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Well

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I guess there are technically

vital pollen
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nah no bans

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the problem is that radiant always gets firstpick atm

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but its still the best gamemode

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they just need to randomize starting team

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but RD was the mode of choice back in dota1 for garena/sig etc.

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and it was awesome

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cuz theres some tactics to it when you get a pool that only has a few supports for example

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you wanna firstpick a support

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so the drafting becomes different every game based on the heropool

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and youre forced to play off meta heroes sometimes

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cuz there might not be 4 meta supports in the pool

tender fox
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Just play Zeus any pos

versed matrix
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team of 4 nobody played with me 😿

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my sniperino got gangbanged

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dont pick that early I guess

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viper pos1, necro pos3, techies and rubick all is good in unranked

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also played my first primal beast game

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what I found is there is like no way to get back parts of the map, nobody wants to do anything

vital pollen
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i wouldnt pick sniper unless it fits into the draft, and more importantly, the enemy doesnt have 2+ ways to jump you

tight sluice
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hehe

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1k go brr

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there are only two heroes in the trench

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the sniper and the lc

versed matrix
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yeah I just said fuck it but it was a mistake

tender fox
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Oh EG released whole team

versed matrix
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nobody wants to fucking pick anything

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and then they get absolute crap

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tomorrow lost ark update also work thing in the evening but thursday friday off work

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monday too

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maybe some dotka

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I wanna do some void spirit mid

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for support mostly CM, mirana, tiny

tight sluice
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play marci

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good sir

versed matrix
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offlane beast, tide, primal

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marci too

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havent played carry yet

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except this sniper perhaps but I was mid against pango

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I won the lane but their lineup ran me over

vital pollen
tender fox
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also i just played vs my first primal

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was not fun

tight sluice
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na dota dead

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sadge

torn girder
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its been dead

tight sluice
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yeah

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sucks valve does nothing to advertise this game

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but supposed at this point it's too late and they don't give a fuck cause of steam money

fast marsh
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His winrate isn't even super high

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Peaks at 50% at divine

fast marsh
stiff pebble
buoyant sage
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hey @tight sluice whats this

tight sluice
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I dunno

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Nerd

tender fox
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im also nice guy

vital pollen
tight sluice
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impossible for me

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since im not a nerd

errant tusk
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if you're below 9500 behavior score you have to be subhuman or sth

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im amazed im 10k perma myself

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as i throw gamer words every game

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so i have no fking clue how you can go beyond what i do

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unless you're abandoning 50% of your games

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i think every abandon past one per 20 games which is allowed or is it once per 2 weeks im not sure gives you -500 behavior score

tight sluice
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thats how I went down to 1.8k

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not verbal

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just leaving games or running it down destroying items ect

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I dont do that anymore

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just a little friendly banter

errant tusk
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yea leaving games will get you -behavior score real fast

buoyant sage
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friend of mine just received his TI8 Battle Pass mini Aegis

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fucking TI8 man

tight sluice
tacit epoch
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now this is new for me

stiff pebble
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dracthyr_sip BANISH THEM TO THE HECK REALM!!

tacit epoch
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got to review a herald 1 tinker spammer

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got reported for scripting

stiff pebble
tight sluice
tender fox
tight sluice
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bruh

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this razor arcana

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is

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uh

vital pollen
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its sick

tight sluice
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it's uh

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something

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alright

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the q animation is actually god tier

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tho

tender fox
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this is new mirana arcana

tight sluice
tight sluice
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but base color is nice

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god that q

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is

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so good

tender fox
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im banning razor every game

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cus everyone trying to pick

tight sluice
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PURPLE = WIN

tight sluice
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xd

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do other heroes get custom items or is this a void/razor specific thing?

vital pollen
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wdym custom items

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but the arcana is great cuz it works well with basically all sets

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windrunner has a custom forcestaff icon for example

tight sluice
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razor has custom for phaseboots and euls/ww

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actually razor has custom animations for them too

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it's growing on me fast at first it was meh but the spell effects are so beautiful

errant tusk
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spectre has custom icons for blade mail and radi

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drow has for hurricane pike idk if anything else

tacit epoch
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The razor melee attack is a nice touch

tender fox
stiff pebble
stiff pebble
tender fox
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literally morphling

tight sluice
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I dont like the green recolor but ye it growing on me

tender fox
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they added a 5s confirm leave button KEKW

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cus of TI accident? PEPW

errant tusk
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ye they added it after

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im pretty sure

tacit epoch
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pos 1 players are apes (:

tight sluice
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Lol

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Which one got safelane

tacit epoch
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AM

tight sluice
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so

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why are you mad at him lol

tacit epoch
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because they both picked core

tight sluice
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???

tacit epoch
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and had to work with an AM and clinkz on the same team

tight sluice
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are you playing roles

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or just all pick

tacit epoch
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no

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just all pick

tight sluice
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then whats the issue

tacit epoch
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we ended up winning tho

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bounty hunter too op at low ranks

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and i've finallly hit the jackpot

tight sluice
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nice

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I lost 5 games in a row today so

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no rerolls for me

tacit epoch
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Pos 3 bh at low ranks is just too good

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Rush vanguard

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Tower dive minute 4-5 and win lane

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we hitting those highrolls today

tight sluice
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this is

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very tragic

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valve help this poor man

fast marsh
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wtf is this name

stiff pebble
tight sluice
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holy fuck

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I cant buy a win today

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its unreal

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@torn girdertrench sf build

versed matrix
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when you wanna play one last game and its a 64 min pos5 ench

tight sluice
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im going to break

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my monitor

tender fox
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do it

tight sluice
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yeah

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7 ranked losses in a row

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I just might soon

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ok gaben time to fix my mmr now

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where is my win streak

versed matrix
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went 2-2 today

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the key to playing pos5 is to play to carry

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or you lose

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in the trenches

tight sluice
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nah key to the trench is playm id

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cause fuck playing other roles

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you have no agency

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mid/off have to be the best roles for climbing

vital pollen
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key to climbing MMR is to play pos3

versed matrix
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I need like 40 hours of unranked first

vital pollen
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play shit like mars or primal

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and youll climb fast

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if you do it well

versed matrix
tight sluice
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I've made alot of mistakes in my last 2 games but even then they seemed hopeless no matter what I did

versed matrix
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cant even play ranked

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but its for the better for now

tight sluice
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how you win with mid sf goes first item satanic

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with brown boots at 45 mins

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I think league has

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trained me to position badly in this game

versed matrix
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always lose CM because cores weak as hell

tight sluice
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cause i'll just stand in front be like ok I can blink out np.

I get blinked on and insta abyssal and dead

tight sluice
versed matrix
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ive been doing pos5

tight sluice
versed matrix
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ive always played 1 or 3 but I figured with being so rusty its better to leave it to others

tight sluice
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I like razor too

versed matrix
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but then my dudes pick shit like techies mid and sniper into bara

tight sluice
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but he is dependent on what they pick

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they pick shit like full ranged or drow

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no bueno

versed matrix
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fucking shaker mid blink 8 mins

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and im level 4 on cm

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gg

tight sluice
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ok I don't win this game

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I am putting down dota for the day

versed matrix
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the fuck do I do vs bara + willow

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as cm sniper lane

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im just toast

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I should just pick pos 3

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or any core

tight sluice
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i wonder if they will have a level bundle this week

versed matrix
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I was going to pick stuff like primal, lesh, beast and brood

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for offlane

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mirana marci for 4

tender fox
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and some double hero novas

versed matrix
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yeah that works a little but then I get killed in a charge 100-0

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at level 2

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or 3

tender fox
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then ur out of pos

versed matrix
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under tower, doesnt matter

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I just cant lane after level 3

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and sniper is deadge too

tender fox
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im also on big lose streak

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keep owning as sup but losing anyway Sadge

versed matrix
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I mean shaker from mid had 8 min blink, our lane was over after they killed me on a stack pull with 1 charge

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and our offlane got wrecked by jugg pugna

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so rip game at min 10

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my mistake was then to try play with the sniper who was dogshit

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I just tried to stack for shrapnel farm but it was already over

tight sluice
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I SWEAR TO CHRIST

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IF I LOSE ANOTHER GAME

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I fucking hate dota

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every game im 1 v 9

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fucking

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whole team is just afk

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in the jkg

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not playing

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its fucking unrela

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dota is fucking shit

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I hate this game

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I LOVE DOTA

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OK

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why do people just afk for 15 mins when their carry is giga fed I don't get it

vital pollen
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You're unhinged

buoyant sage
tight sluice
# vital pollen You're unhinged

you know what's unhinged. Your pos4 wyvern malding at your pos5 silencer cause he isn't buying wards. Then proceeding to afk/int for the entire game. Then pos5 out of spite won't play because pos 4 is yelling at him. All while your mid is just afk farming the jg.

So you the 13-0 naix and your BH offlaner are running around playing 2 v 5 for 15 mins losing when you should be running the game over as a team.

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but all is well, drow left the hyperbolic time chamber and we played 3 v 5 and won

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thus, I fucking hate dota. But also I love dota lmao

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it was an emotional rollercoaster. Especially after 7 game losing streak and I just played a game earlier where I was giga fed on MK only to lose

tender fox
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If ur mega fed and 13-0 in 1k mmr bracket, how do u not run away and solo win the game?

tight sluice
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because you cant go in 1 v 5

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bro

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believe it or not

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1k players still press their buttons and play

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I just pushed towers and shoved lanes until they got bored of jungling

tender fox
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i imagine they are always out of pos so u can just blink in and kill 1-2 off with rage and get out

tight sluice
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nah they were just running as 5 the whole game

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ok

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70 min game

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break time

vital pollen
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slightly outfarmed

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when the 1400hp WD dies to a single laguna from full hp, just feels nice

tight sluice
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@torn girder when the dirty tinker picker gets babysat for every rune and still loses

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made him quit

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with tips

torn girder
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good

tight sluice
vital pollen
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im not

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playing with friends

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still lose more than half the games cuz i have to initiate

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on heroes like clinkz/drow/lina

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since i dont wanna play mid/am not a very good mid

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cant really solo win these games

tender fox
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just had a cm jungle for 20 min buying arcane boots

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without trolling thinking it was good

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down to archon 4 in 1 week so ppl even buy accs/boost on these low mmrs KEKW

fast marsh
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played with a shadow shaman that missed a teamfight cause he was farming jungle creeps to get his aghs

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took like 15 mins to complete

tacit epoch
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Based ss player

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Gotta obtain his power spike

fast marsh
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I've been having a lot of fun with dark seer recently

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Super hard to carry from behind but

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Very intense micro in teamfights with his aghs

fast marsh
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i got all the cool skins except the tiny one

fast marsh
vital pollen
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god why

fast marsh
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i feel like a fucking kaiju

vital pollen
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it just looks super ass

fast marsh
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ding dong ur opinion is wrong

vital pollen
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will have to check which sets are in

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but people have dogshit taste these days so probably not the good ones

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so no undying/AA/doom/hoodwink

fast marsh
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there's a hoodwink in the new set

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the new treasures i mean

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they left out some really cool skins tho

tacit epoch
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The only set I'm surprised made in is the faceless void one

burnt basin
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wait why

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its an off color clean design

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people love those

burnt basin
tight sluice
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this is beautiful

tight sluice
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i cant remember

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what sets were in the cache

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vote

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other than these

stiff pebble
tender fox
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do u get treasures from bp at any point or just purchase mode

errant tusk
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purchase

tight sluice
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I swear to fucking god

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never go on a winstreak i nthis game

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I swear the game

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forces you to lose

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eventually

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if you go on winstreak

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also can we fucking nerf pudge already

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tired of banning this hero every game

stiff pebble
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dracthyr_sip math

tight sluice
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why can't dota just have leagues ranked system its so much better

buoyant sage
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they would have to rework the ultra garbage draft/picking phase of ranked games in the process

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too much for valve

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random bans, 30 sec to think/adapt/pick your hero

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über liquid shit system

stiff pebble
tight sluice
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like

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this g mae perfect example

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I get double kill before bounties

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then for some reason

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pos 1 and 5

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just screaming at each other

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pos 1

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comes mid before im even 6

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and ints...

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LIKE WH

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BEHAVIOUR SCORE DOES SO MUCH

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glad valve doesnt ban peopl

tender fox
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niec mid and offlane picks and leaves PEPW

errant tusk
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what's the alternative

buoyant sage
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league draft phase system is way better

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that would be a good laternative

errant tusk
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what is it like?

buoyant sage
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Im tired to only have 30 sec to pick my hero, no pre time to announce your lane/hero

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first theres a phase where you can already pre pick your hero, like showing what you wanna pick which lasts fairly long

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then ban phase where you are SURE that the hero you ban is actually banned

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then you can pick your hero

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you have way more time to think about whats happening and react

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I really hate the "pressure" dota puts on you like you tagged pos 4 or 5? BOOM

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you have to choose RIGHT NOW

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pissing me off tbh

errant tusk
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lots of time issues are fixed if you filter heroes

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like you can make custom filters

buoyant sage
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I do, I have a custom layout for heroes panel

errant tusk
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i dont think part where you get to show your team early on what you're gonna pick helps or am i wrong

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like someone will just pick certain hero anyway

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even if its shit for composition

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or shit vs enemies coz they just feel like playing herto

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or you mean that its bad that you cant do it coz you play classic mm so you dont know roles yet?

buoyant sage
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as a pos 4 main I would be able to adapt my pick more if I knew what my mates want to pick, which is precisely what the pre pick phase is for in league

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I dont soloq, I role rank, classic ranked, normal whatever the mode I always feel like pressured

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and the fact that the ban you make isnt 100% sure is tiring as well

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if I dont want fucking pudge in my games

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let me ban him forever ty

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works with w/e dumb fotm hero

errant tusk
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its 50/50 i think and it also randomly bans heroes that are performing good in your bracket

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or some shit like that

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not 100% sure on the 2nd part

buoyant sage
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ye it does, and among most hero played from ppl in the game too

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pudge is banned most of the time tho nowadays

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I would start to add at least 15 more seconds for everyone to pick

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and blind pick too tbh

errant tusk
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as in you dont see enemy hero whatsoever till all 5 picks are made?

tight sluice
#

WHY IS THIS RANKED SYSTEM LIKE THIS

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god

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this game

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is not designed for soloq

buoyant sage
#

too many times I ended up getting countered hard just by "luck"

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since you pick at the same time

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and not turn by turn

errant tusk
#

but then last guy gets absolute last pick anyway

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that can be uncountered anyway

tight sluice
#

fucking

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dumbass fucking team

errant tusk
#

it used to be like that before

tight sluice
#

starts raging

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over nothing

errant tusk
#

just mute them

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and keep playing

tight sluice
#

even tho we get mid with 2 fucking kills

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before counties

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bounties

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i cant mute

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their play sebek

tacit epoch
#

The herald adventures

tight sluice
#

our pos 1

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just started coming mid

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and running it

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and ruining my lane

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for no reason

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because something happend

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between him and lich

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I dunno what

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game stillwent 60 mins

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we still lost

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i hate rankedi n thsis game

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forcing you on a losing streak

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after win strreak

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these games feel fucking impossible

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every game feels like a massive coinflip

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either we stomp and I don't even have to do anything

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or the games are unwinnable

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no in between

buoyant sage
tight sluice
#

I even had to hoard the neutrals

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to make sure everyone got the right one

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so that lich didnt steal them

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cause he was full griefing for

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whatever fucking reason

errant tusk
tight sluice
#

wasting glyph

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fucking

errant tusk
#

before it was 1 team got 1st pick

tight sluice
#

cancer human

errant tusk
#

and then other one got last pick

buoyant sage
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ah yeh

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correct

errant tusk
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where he saw all the heroes by enemy team and his team had 4 heroes

tight sluice
#

CAN WE BUFF QOP BTW

errant tusk
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you missed qop op patch

buoyant sage
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Idm having someone as the very last pick, thats a big responsability

errant tusk
#

was like 8 months ago

buoyant sage
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which I dont mind

tight sluice
#

she just needs better talents

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remove the 60s ult cd

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and bake it into her base kit

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like 20seconds off per level

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and lower her manacosts

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then boom hero is fine

buoyant sage
#

balancing qop is tricky

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we're talking about an intel hero with a natural blink kekega

tight sluice
#

now im pissed

tender fox
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make blink instant

tight sluice
#

and my work day is going to be shit

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why do I play in the morning

errant tusk
#

play lina or tiny

tight sluice
#

i hate lina

errant tusk
#

if you wanna win LULE

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super op

buoyant sage
#

love playing tiny

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avalanche op

tight sluice
#

I think I just need to farm more

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I don't know how to farm on heroes like qop

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I mean I do

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but

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not like TA

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where ican just get 10cs/min

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I feel pulled around to every fight

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and theres a million fights

errant tusk
#

maybe pick spectre or dawnbreaker and join only when you have ult

tight sluice
#

this set pretty btw

errant tusk
#

you can play dawn from all positions

tight sluice
#

ye dawn is fun

errant tusk
#

you can do same with jugg join only when you have ult

tender fox
#

i mean he play ta at 1k mmr he should just be able to pick ppl off that farm creepwaves constantly while moving around farming camps and shit

tight sluice
#

you cant pick people

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mizui

tender fox
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the powerspike is o early

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ofc u can

tight sluice
#

they literally hug each other

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the whole game

tender fox
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the nu have 90% of the map to farm and split push

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whats the problem

tight sluice
#

I think I'm not farming enough

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but like

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that game for example

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we didnt take a tower till like 40 mins

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I'd push a wave

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to take offlane

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5 tps come in

tender fox
#

tp another lane

tight sluice
#

then no one pushing other lanes

tender fox
#

isntead of jerking around for 10 min

tight sluice
#

then they just walk to me

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and no one ever pushes

tender fox
#

so they tp 5 top and walk bottom

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and ur not satisfied with that

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that they are doign nothing

tight sluice
#

yes I am

tender fox
#

while u can farm 3-4 waves

tight sluice
#

you cant farm

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wdym

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you have to run

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or you die

tender fox
#

?!?!?!

errant tusk
#

if you play mid and you can join fight on sideline or push mid tower

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always push mid tower

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unless you know you can get like 2-3 kills off of that rotation LULE

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mid tower is so valuable

tight sluice
#

I try

tender fox
#

"opponent runs as 5 so i cant farm" like what

tight sluice
#

TA I usually take

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mid tower by 5-10

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cause no one at this bracket can lane with me

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and they just leave

buoyant sage
#

play leshrac/sf/OD/lina mid

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kill everyone

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get mmr

tight sluice
#

funny I played lesh yesterday

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they went mk mid

buoyant sage
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puck too

tight sluice
#

who went first item bloodthorn

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then offlane had WP/pipe

tender fox
#

have u heard of bkb and or euls

tight sluice
#

I had bkb

buoyant sage
#

wp has to be instabuy

tight sluice
#

it's not the

buoyant sage
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for each team

tight sluice
#

silence thats the issue mizu

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it's the mage slayer passive

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  • the stacknig drs
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makes lesh uselsss

tight sluice
#

you see it occasionally but it's not like an every game thing

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when I watch gorgc it's every game

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in high mmr pubs

tender fox
#

i mean u belong at that mmr, there is no way u cant solo carry 1k mmr if ur better and constantly play mid. but somehow everythign is always a counter to you Kapp

buoyant sage
#

it should be, as soon as pick phase ends

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you need to identify the best WP carrier

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in your team and tell him

tight sluice
#

yeah bro

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just tell the offlane ck player

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don't buy core items buy wp

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that will work

#

and not tilt them instantly

buoyant sage
#

pos 4 can

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I usually buy it

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it's expensive tho

tight sluice
#

ye

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I dunno if I'm just not farming enough or

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wtf

#

but then i'll go on a streak of games where I could play blindfolded drunk

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and we'd stil lwin

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it's so tilting

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like i'll probably be on like a 10 game losing streak now then it will swing back to a huge winning streak

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i hate this

tender fox
#

ur basically saying ur playing the most impactful role but have no impact on the game an still go 50/50

tight sluice
#

it's not that I have no impat

#

it's I feel like I don't have enough of an impact

#

some games feel absolutely hopeless like I might as well just sit in fountain

#

no matter what I do won't matter

#

and the opposite being true too. Like some games I could just not even be there and the game is won for me

#

might be I'm just not farming enough early

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to accelerate

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on qop

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on TA I generally farm until I get my items before I join unless there's a good tp where I can pick up a couple kills

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Gotta be something better I can do to have more impact.

tight sluice
#

@buoyant sageoh how the turn tables have turned

buoyant sage
tight sluice
#

lmfao

#

this pos4 mirana is just farming the jg

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got reported for griefing

#

herald bracket I think

tender fox
#

ucant review ppl higher rank than u i think

tight sluice
fast marsh
#

i have a friend in the triple digit mmr bracker or smth ridiculous

#

he basically just actively griefs his games

#

only way he wins is if their pos 1 just drags him to a win

errant tusk
#

ive seen people play it like some solo game

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just go to lane

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hit creeps

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in that bracket i mean

tight sluice
fast marsh
#

idk pos 1 is pretty chill

tight sluice
#

Like sometimes if my support is bad I just leave lane and say f this

fast marsh
#

just consume every ounce of farm on the map

tight sluice
#

Its unplayable

fast marsh
#

then kill everyone

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or dont and go next

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when we lose i just outrotate the enemy and go into their jungle

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walk between turrets

#

and clear out everything

tender fox
tight sluice
#

Wow you picked the last game I played support

#

With no context

#

I win most of my support games for a reason

tender fox
#

ur not playing core?

tight sluice
#

No cause I play the game

#

That cm game was doomed

#

AM pos 1

#

Centaur offlane with WD we just couldn't fight them. I cant remember what else happened but their mid was invoker 1 trick

tight sluice
#

You have to be deranged to main that role

fast marsh
#

i mean you have literally no responsibilities

tight sluice
#

Because some games you just get fucked by enemy offlane and your support is a potato. Esp at this bracket

fast marsh
#

just do your best to last hit kills to get gold

#

farm as efficiently as you can

tight sluice
#

Wdym no responsibility

fast marsh
#

either you're strong enough or you arent

tight sluice
#

The whole game is on your shoulders

fast marsh
#

you spend the first 30-40 mins farming

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then go oneshot everyone

#

its chill af

tight sluice
#

It's the role with the most responsiblity

fast marsh
#

losing mid is way more stressful imo

tight sluice
#

Playing mid and offlane is like raising a child

fast marsh
#

because you can fuck your pos 1s ability to scale entirely

tight sluice
#

You do your best till they're 18 and then you find out they're a drug addict and criminal and you've failed

#

Or they're an honor student millionaire and you're set for life

tacit epoch
#

Pos 1 is farming simulator

#

And then hit big damage buttons

tender fox
tacit epoch
#

Ye

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And make sure to get bkb

tender fox
#

and then u pick troll and just play with no hands

tight sluice
tacit epoch
#

Troll at low ranks doesn't die

fast marsh
#

unless you're playing spectre then no need for bkb

tight sluice
#

WHATS BKB

fast marsh
#

they just kill themselves on you

tight sluice
#

WE GO SATANIC 3RD ON AM IN THIS BRACKET

tacit epoch
#

That's winnable

buoyant sage
#

thats why you'll stay 1k

tacit epoch
#

Cm is op tho

fast marsh
#

i heard you have to actually try to be in herald

#

is that true

tight sluice
#

I'm saying the pos1s I get

#

Dont

tender fox
#

hataro is trying real hard to stay herald

buoyant sage
#

ah

tight sluice
buoyant sage
tacit epoch
#

Cm is really chill in low ranks tho

#

Just root into ult at lvl 6 and you solo kill anyone

tight sluice
#

I swear Bkb is like the plague

#

You cannot get these mfs to buy it

#

For whatever reason

#

It's like the best item in the game

#

And no one likes it

#

Rather buy daedalus so big dam but btw no dam cause you cant move

tender fox
#

you buy it and lose so it sounds like it doesnt work

tight sluice
#

When I click my pos1 and see they're not queuing up Bkb even 40 mins in

#

A part of my soul leaves me

tight sluice
#

Like even this bracket now laning feels easy. The difficulty I struggle with is converting to wins on a regular basis

errant tusk
#

ending games is rly hard that gradually gets better

#

even pro games peoples truggle to close out LULE

tacit epoch
#

Ye but low ranks issue is ppl try to clear all 3 lane barracks when enemy tier 4 towers are exposed

#

So games take 10-15 mins longer than they should and it gives an opportunity for the other team to come back

errant tusk
#

well thats just closing out the game for me

#

that happens even in highish bracket

#

people would go for 2 lanes of rax instead of ending game

#

coz its 'safe' play

#

because you are unaware whether they have bbs for example

tight sluice
#

Huge swing

errant tusk
#

ye pushing highground gets better with higher rating

#

its still a struggle

#

and some games have shit like arc warden

#

or some other rat type hero

#

and you have to farm map for 20-30 mins

tacit epoch
#

Perma ban arc warden

tight sluice
#

I hate arc

#

And in my bracket 9/10 arcs are smurfs

tacit epoch
#

My arc warden ban didn't go through earlier today and had to endure the arc highround defense

tight sluice
#

So I hate him more

tacit epoch
#

What a miserable experience

tight sluice
#

like

#

I fucking hate this game

#

I dont

#

know what

#

I couldve done this game

#

at all

#

some one fucking

#

tell me

#

what I couldve done better

#

to make this game not be shit

tender fox
#

just download a replay of a pro and see what they do

#

and u will see waht ur not doing

tight sluice
#

fuck off mizu

#

you're like 2k

#

I don't want your advice

#

you cant fucking watch high level pubs and "learn what you're doing" since the game doesnt even work the same

#

at this bracket

#

you have 4 other non shit players to play with

tender fox
#

me? im a former divine player now playing on a decayed acc at like 3k which make sense since ive not played actively in 2-3 years

#

and why not? just take the pros pov and see what he does at the hero u struggle on or pos

#

doesnt rly matter waht his team does or what happens in the game

tight sluice
#

this game is just ass

#

i hate it

errant tusk
#

cba rewriting

#

copy that id

#

put id at the end

tight sluice
#

Huh

errant tusk
#

i just cba rewriting 20 digits LULE

#

coz whenever you go into your match history and see that part with match id and you can click it and press 'copy'

#

instead of having to rewrite 20 digits

#

opendota is the most superior site coz you can directly download a replay there

#

also offers lots of other useful stats

#

its like warcraftlogs on crack kinda

tight sluice
#

Like this?

errant tusk
#

ye

#

you can press parse too

#

and it will parse it and show you lots of useful stats

#

like how many creeps you got in laning and how you performed relative to either avg of your rank or sth

#

just lots of stats you might find useful

#

1st thing insta qop just is a rly bad hero

#

one of worst heroes right now

#

whenever playing into lina you should play very aggresive level 1 coz thats her weakest point

tight sluice
#

Ih

#

I linked you wrong one

errant tusk
#

also you forgot ward which caused you to being unable to play aggresive level 1

#
  • missed last hit on ranged on 1st wave which isnt horrendous but yea obv you wanan get it
#

actually that lina is bad too LOLW

#

coz she took q/w

#

so she isnt the usual annoying lina to lane into with free 80 attack speed

#

like look at this situation

#

dont see mana bar of lina but she's oom

#

you could maybe even kill her

#

or at least make her go base/buy salve and 3 mangos

#

you have 10 times more resources than her + she fucked up her skill build

#

ok its unfucked now but level 3 she was 2/1/0 i think

#

looks kinda allright tho, your team played decent

#

you bought ok items

#

can check some other games tommorow if you list ids there

#

no idea if you getting anything out of me thinking out loud kinda

#

coz thats what im doing

tight sluice
#

I mean I can go over the replay and watch too later.

errant tusk
#

you are without teleport scrolls for very long periods

#

anxiety inducing for me

#

feels like you should never have no tp scroll

vital pollen
#

ye

#

also

#

stop picking qop

#

you dont even have the arcana

errant tusk
#

ye qop is very bad

tight sluice
vital pollen
#

and qop is just not a good hero

errant tusk
#

its just bad hero

#

no meme

vital pollen
#

even if you win lane

#

and have a big lead

#

you cant translate it into running away with the game

errant tusk
#

pango with -4k nw does more than qop

vital pollen
#

compared to most other "Meta" heroes that just completely stomp by minute 15

errant tusk
#

if pango has 13k nw vs qop with 17k

#

pango does 10 times more

#

stupid hero

vital pollen
#

or lesh

#

just need bloodstone kekdog

errant tusk
#

ye lina/lesh/sniper in some games

#

strongest offlaners by big margin

#

not offlaners midlaners ofc

#

late so fried brain pepegSit

tight sluice
#

Cmon man

errant tusk
#

since you care about mmr gains

#

yea quitting qop is easiest thing you can do

#

coz playing correct heropool in certain patch

#

is just so important

#

like if you're playing offlaners and you dont play wraith pact builders

vital pollen
#

a guy who is easily 1k mmr below you in skill

errant tusk
#

you're hindering yourself

vital pollen
#

can just play lesh every game

errant tusk
#

as sad as it sounds its true

vital pollen
#

and gain much more than you

errant tusk
#

yea meta is very important

tight sluice
#

Um also

errant tusk
#

as much as you might hate it

tight sluice
#

This was the one I meant to link but you can review later

#

Alot harder and I really felt lost

#

Funny I spammed puck when I came back on 7.31? Was the last patch

#

When puck was giga op

#

I Dunno I just love QoP

#

I can spam lesh Iike him

#

What does lesh max right now

#

Like. You can go max lightning storm and edict

Usually I max LS

fast marsh
#

just got called a league refugee

#

now im sad

stiff pebble
torn girder
#

70 minute game

tight sluice
torn girder
#

Yea hard game

#

But pog

tight sluice
#

holy

#

fuck

#

I just got trolled

#

so fucking hard

vital pollen
#

🧌

tight sluice
#

i need to clip this

#

this person can't be fucking human

#

get me out

#

of this bracket

#

i cant

vital pollen
#

What am I looking at

#

Minimap on bottom right PeepoChrist

tight sluice
#

you are looking at me

#

buying back

#

going in

#

being like OI ENIGMA HAS ULT

#

and mf just stands there

#

literally watching me die