Can you make full golden lifestealer?
#Dota
tacit epoch
tight sluice
Can you make full golden lifestealer?
yep
tacit epoch
Sure
vital pollen
tight sluice
no legs tho
tacit epoch
The gloves 😔
tender fox
remember good old days when someone created a new steam game to make fake dota2 items and scam ppl
hataro would have fallen for it 10/10 times
tight sluice
yeah except
you know
this is
every single ti10 immortal
another 10 iq comment from mizu
but uh this is weird i think they're still only marketable post this BP I dunno why it's showing 1 on the market for each
errant tusk
did they make them marketable 
that would be nice
wanna buy ursa set
not tradable but you can get some of them from this candy shit
i think
so hence some of them are tradable?
idk if correct lore
vital pollen
yeah id assume so
tacit epoch
Seems like there's a lot of returning players with outdated builds
Had a specter radiance and battlefury jugg enjoyers
tight sluice
I dont think BF jugg is bad
Just not really the current build
Rad spec though is
That's REAL old
errant tusk
radi specter is ok if you have very free game
which you almsot never will coz spectre is bad laner
many heroes can still go bf like void or mk
but most people dont 
versed matrix
farm BF lose by minute 20, pog games sometimes
errant tusk
on hero like faceless void attack speed is just to op
so you almost alweays go maelstrom
so you can go mjolnir later
i make bf on ursa very often and i win most of my ursa games 
its just so fun pressing w and one shotting full camp/creepwave
versed matrix
I remember a game where I was AM and got bf + manta and we got fucked in the ass min 20
😿
errant tusk
am is just trash
hero has only 1 viable build
cant do anything in fights
you need so much
need skadi/manta/bfury to join fights nowadays
coz otherwise you die to random aoe dmg
fucking pos4 tiny can one shot you with just blink and level 8
while you have manta/bfury
or close to one shot you
if you wanna build bfury and win games probably PA better choice
if you love item
at least contributes with dagger from far
tacit epoch
I dont think BF jugg is bad
i mean the guy lost and goes "sorry guys jugg is gay this patch"
tight sluice
if you wanna build bfury and win games probably PA better choice
Pa just feels so bad since they nerfed her
It's actually tragic.
Just go back to no lifesteal on W if they were going to put her in the ground
tacit epoch
PA still dominates low ranks
torn girder
Idk PA doesnt feel terrible
tight sluice
WELCOME TO TRENCH GAMING
versed matrix
everyone is pos1
tight sluice
not a single support item in sight
im excused
tight sluice
im marci and also these apes needed caryring KLMAO
vital pollen
fuck marci players
tight sluice
LMFAO
vital pollen
fuck rebound and fuck sidekick
just like timewalk
i hate movement abilities you cannot interrupt
tight sluice
how the fuck
do you play
vs omni
this hero
is so aids
just runs at you
you do 0 damage
vital pollen
omni in lane is
stiff pebble
SD is pretty entertaining yeah
tight sluice
alpine wren
one of the best couriers
which?
vital pollen
amaterasu
alpine wren
no, which one of us asked?
vital pollen
:^)
buoyant sage
tight sluice
tight sluice
I swear to god
im going to start banning mirana
I cannot
dodge her arrows
they look like
her autos
buoyant sage
you would smash your desk at every corner against me then
tight sluice
lmfao
buoyant sage
Im a potm enjoyer
tight sluice
so am I
buoyant sage
and arrow master
stiff pebble
It used to be popular for a very long time
And then people just stopped skinning her arrow cuz it's just throwing
buoyant sage
it's not hard to see tbh
and it wasnt popular wtf
like you literally can dodge most arrow just by paying attention
shit is a giant shiny flying harlberd
stiff pebble
I mean the base model isn't giant but it's really not that hard to dodge no.
tight sluice
like you literally can dodge most arrow just by paying attention
lmao
nah
its really fucking hard to see
in the middle of everything
stiff pebble
This map is triggering me
https://gfycat.com/secondarysleepyhoverfly
also the HUD, better times
tender fox
necro doing a little ancient afk farming
stiff pebble
It was a better time because there was a lot of flexibility for skins, something that we lost almost entirely with the UI redo
A lot of those skins are very janky and silly but still nice to have
buoyant sage
wth
buoyant sage
played her p3 that game
we were playing against cavern crawl enjoyers tho so we steam rolled this game
tight sluice
im so done with this fucking game
why did they let
people quueue into ranked
with level 1 bp
vital pollen
the one where youd sit in front of the enemy base with tb/luna/naga/drow and a shadow demon
and chip the tower 50hp at a time
until rax are dead
where offlaner got bullied out of lane at level1 but it didnt matter cuz iron talon existed and they still hit lv6 before minute 10?
errant tusk
vital pollen
was fun to play pos3
sit in trees
get 1-2 levels from every creep being denied
then fuck off to jungle with iron talon from passive gold
the moment you show yourself, you get banged by 2 supports and the carry
tacit epoch
Community votes for skins have begun
tight sluice
how does collectors cache work
is it like just a lootbox you buy?
or do you get it with bp levels
buoyant sage
snapfire skins are awesome too
a lot are actually it's insane
the amount of work to do that shit, love the pirate themed skins too
tight sluice
Hmm I dont remember the chen set
I voted the primal and doom day though those are nice
tacit epoch
Marci sets causing controversy 
stiff pebble
Yeah lol
I really really really really liked a couple of them, but some of the, for lack of a better word, pop star style or like anime pop star style is a little weird
stiff pebble
Yeah lol
tacit epoch
I'd take the belle delphine marci for the gloves only tho
fast marsh
I really really really really liked a couple of them, but some of the, for lack ...
The look like league skins.
stiff pebble
Some ye
vital pollen
no
im not gonna vote for a mute hero to also get a blindfold
get that weeb shit outta my game
tight sluice
im not gonna vote for a mute hero to also get a blindfold
you aint even going to vote for baby sagan
buoyant sage
imagine unironically playing Huskar
tender fox
just buy cowboy ursa
vital pollen
all the marci sets sucked
best sets were tentacle doom, undying and limerick hoodwink
simple but cool
this one is sick too
shipwreck morph was nice too
but yeah idk
dont like sets very much that completely change the shape/color-scheme of the hero
tacit epoch
Think they should limit to one skin per hero
vital pollen
<@210784027752398848>100% chance more than 1 marci skin goes through
yeah for sure
the maid skin will almost definitely get in, i think
errant tusk
fast marsh
stiff pebble
tight sluice
nice boy
How
I mean I've been hovering around like 7.9 to 8.5
I legit dont get hoe you can maintain that BS and still be a sane individual
buoyant sage
been on 10k score for years now
just dont be toxic
mute ppl and play the game at your best without paying attention at what ppl miss because they'll ultimately miss something at some point
vital pollen
If you're not at 10k or >9.9k, you're doing something wrong
Dropping below even 9.9k requires multiple reports over half a dozen games
versed matrix
I dont think behaviour score existed when I last played
buoyant sage
I always play in a 3+ player stack too so it helps
but like, ppl will do shit that will eventually annoy you so the best thing was, is and always will be to ignore/mute
tight sluice
Dropping below even 9.9k requires multiple reports over half a dozen games
That's just flat out untrue
I've lost BS with full green report card
So
It's really easy to lose BS tbh
vital pollen
Communication abuse doesn't show as a report
tight sluice
It shows up on your card when you get it
But I've had reports come in where its fully green, no communication abuse and I've dropped score
It's a weird af system
vital pollen
It really isn't
stiff pebble
vital pollen
Don't be a toxic shithead and you'll sit at 10k score permanently
stiff pebble
There's a report system for that
vital pollen
Gee i wonder why you're not 10k behavior score
tight sluice
I know why I'm not 10k seli
tight sluice
I was asking how anyone can maintain 10k without saying anything to these people
vital pollen
Rage less over a video game. People play bad. People make mistakes. The report and overwatch system are perfectly adequate for reporting people.
tight sluice
Soft... Griefing....
yes, soft griefing. We use the term in league so like. Support coming to wave and intentionally ruining your wave state with abilities. Using abilities on the wave/you to troll. Other small things like this
hard griefing is
running it down, selling/destroying items
stiff pebble
That just sounds like they don't know what they're doing, that doesn't sound like griefing
tight sluice
I literally had a necro support the other day. Got himself hooked by pudge 4 twice, procede to blame me for getting hooked
then spammed his ghost things on the creeps to CS
soft griefing
tight sluice
That just sounds like they don't know what they're doing, that doesn't sound lik...
no the point is they're doing it on purpose
vital pollen
It's not griefing. It's being bad at the game. You're some wood league player talking about bad players. Play better yourself then you won't play with bad players as much.
tight sluice
but it's "soft" because the system literally just cannot detect it
vital pollen
Don't rage as much and you won't get matched with shit behavior score players
tight sluice
Don't rage as much and you won't get matched with shit behavior score players
this is also silly
stiff pebble
That really doesn't sound like something you can know for certain that someone is doing on purpose.
tight sluice
I've been at the bottom of BS
stiff pebble
Yeah you're going to get cute with poo poo players regardless
But you sure do get matched with a few of them when you yourself are not on the same level
tight sluice
and with green BS is pretty good comparitively but you still get people intentionally ruining games
every few games
even up to like 8.5k BS
and also racism
vital pollen
and with green BS is pretty good comparitively but you still get people intentio...
yeah. but it happens less often.
tight sluice
I have never in 10 years of playing league seen so much racism in a game
probably cause in league that shit gets you auto banned immediately
vital pollen
I have never in 10 years of playing league seen so much racism in a game
thats what tends to happen when you segregate playerbases into their own little ghettos
instead of having a global game
vital pollen
no it shouldnt
tight sluice
but either way
stiff pebble
No
tight sluice
it's not just racism towards spanish speakers
vital pollen
"report toxic people"
"reporting doesnt do anything anyway, useless system"
complains about too much toxicity
tight sluice
point is league has a system that auto bans you for certain words and it's very rare to see it in games because you actually get banned. Dota worst case you lose like 1000 BS which you can just go play turbo 3/4/5 for 15 games and you've fixed it again
but anyway
stiff pebble
Or you could just block them...
tight sluice
I know I'm toxic
but I just wonder how other people can sit t here and not say anything
like I don't get it
if someone did some shit to "grief" me in real life
I'd say shit to them
vital pollen
ah yes, ban people in a f2p game so they just create new accounts all the time and ruin new players games while continuing to be toxic shitheads. much better system
stiff pebble
Because people just block people and move on with their days
tender fox
my dude u sit at 1k mmr im sure u do 100 things thats considered grief every game
stiff pebble
If they start raging over voice you just block voice and move on with your day
tight sluice
you can't block gameplay
tender fox
how are u gonna nitpick on other ppls stuff
tight sluice
and you can't block people trolling
stiff pebble
You also can't ban automatically for gameplay
tight sluice
i don't care what people say
vital pollen
my dude u sit at 1k mmr im sure u do 100 things thats considered grief every gam...
this
tight sluice
or if they flame me
vital pollen
psure i could watch a single replay
and find 50 reasons to report you for "intentional griefing"
stiff pebble
You were specifically talking about what people say, if people are intentionally briefing you fucking report them and let the system sort it out
vital pollen
or "soft griefing" like you like to call it
tight sluice
my point is
stiff pebble
Pseudogriefing if you will
tight sluice
the system won't sort it
stiff pebble
Kind of griefing
tight sluice
you'
vital pollen
people at your MMR shouldnt even be allowed to report others for griefing other than destroying items/running down a lane, cause you dont have the skill to judge others and what they did "intentionally"
stiff pebble
Yeah I do think it's interesting that people that 1K can report for gameplay related stuff
Especially now since you can't run the courier down mid
tight sluice
I mean I can tell the difference between when someone is just bad and someone is just ruining the game on purpose
I had a level 1 BP CM
vital pollen
its the equivalent of a greyparsing LFR raider having input on the balancing of the game
tight sluice
sit in the lane the other day and do nothing
like literally nothing
he was just bad and returning player
vital pollen
I mean I can tell the difference between when someone is just bad and someone is...
your mmr makes me hard-disagree on that
vital pollen
if you had that skill like you think you did, you wouldnt be low mmr anymore
tight sluice
and the game was fine
vital pollen
you need to learn to get some perspective
tight sluice
imagine not even understanding how people are intentionally ruining games
and this is the reponse
this is why they do it
cause you have people like u who think "oh they're just bad" when it's clearly they're doing it on purpose
vital pollen
at your level, some people have good mechanical skill but horrible map awareness or understanding of how to lane. others might suck at lasthitting but actually know how to ward. others might know how to gank but suck at everything else. no one at your skill level does all these things well, because if they did, theyd have higher mmr.
that applies to you too.
tight sluice
especially when you know they type in chat
"ok you get no cs now"
and spam abilities on the wave
tight sluice
this why I play mid
vital pollen
and you climb MMR
stiff pebble
Ez
vital pollen
because the odds of someone like that being in your team
are 4/10
whereas for the other team its 5/10
tight sluice
worst case scenario with mid your supports are just dumb and don't tp
stiff pebble
Until I creep up from bottom lane and steal your creep in mid
tight sluice
to help you
vital pollen
unless ofc you yourself are a person like that, at which point you will stay in "elo hell" because you still cannot realize that youre part of the problem
tight sluice
Until I creep up from bottom lane and steal your creep in mid
it's rare to have that happen
because of the fact you're not directly laning with them so
you don't "trigger them" or something
stiff pebble
I think at 1k mmr it's ridiculous to expect anyone to TP to counter gank or assist
tight sluice
most times in mid I'm in my own little bubble listing to the sidelanes screeching at each other
vital pollen
to help you
or, yaknow, play mid better so your supports dont have to. cause at a higher skill level, supports dont tp mid to "help their mid" other than refilling bottle
vital pollen
then your sidelines are having an easy game
vital pollen
if your mid is getting dived by 2-3 people, odds are you die with them if you tp
vital pollen
odds are the support doesnt have mana after the TP to do anything anyway
tight sluice
ain't no fucking way these 1k pos 1 players are taking advantage of this
tender fox
you are talking as if you are the one winning 1v5 every game when i nfact ur teammates are the smae mmr
vital pollen
ill do a review
tight sluice
I dunno seli I can't remember a replay where I'm getting dove constantly
vital pollen
any replay will do
tight sluice
I think I have an OD game wher etheir supports will just sit mid
what's your point
to review my replay anyway
I know I'm bad
vital pollen
hataro the type of player to play mid or pos1 and then when he wins the game with 30k networth he writes "youre welcome for carry" in team-chat, even though thats the role he picked
tight sluice
this whole conversation started talking about people ruining games on purpose
that happens in every bracket
tight sluice
hataro the type of player to play mid or pos1 and then when he wins the game wit...
no usually if I have a free game I'll suck off my supports and cry because they are finally human
vital pollen
you are in no position to judge whether someone is doing smth on purpose or not, unless hes actively admitting to it in chat - at which point you report them
vital pollen
you think you have the ability to judge how well others are playing. you dont.
buoyant sage
Don't be a toxic shithead and you'll sit at 10k score permanently
so many messages when the whole situation has been summed up 150 posts ago
tight sluice
my definition of good seli
is like
just doing anything
other than sitting there
soaking xp
I kinda wanna play dota now
vital pollen
you think you have the ability to judge how well others are playing. you dont.
buoyant sage
the thing you dont understand my dude that they wont learn dota during the game you're playing with them
tight sluice
ok I will get you a replay
tight sluice
maybe find a hard game
vital pollen
dota is a teamgame, yes
but why do you think good players manage to smurf and go 100-0 playing mid in these games, even if they have enemy supports sitting mid all game?
tight sluice
@vital pollen6858545114
honestly I can't remember this game
that one is kinda a stomp I hate these
but um the honest thing is I'm not a smurf
and I'm not good enough to carry griefing players
so I get mad
and flame the griefers
why do u think I've had like 40+ league accounts
tight sluice
only in competitive games
vital pollen
you cant grow as a player, or a human being, if youre letting these fester and not deal with them
tight sluice
I'm actually pretty chill IRL
but uh
yeah
if you want to review replay
I think I fucked up a ton in the game
I linked
although it was a giga stomp
versed matrix
I played 1 game vs bots
and my mechanics are gone
xd
I tried the new spam S with autorepeat auto attack
buoyant sage
just valve things
stiff pebble
Dota derust was worse than any fighting game or shooter I ever fucked played
versed matrix
but I keep left clicking to move because of lost ark
stiff pebble
versed matrix
pretty sure if I did ranked now id be <1k easily
vital pollen
okay so first thing
you wanna climb rating
why do you play one of the worst heroes in the game
tender fox
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/833288875 throwback where i apparently played slark mid vs yawar 
tight sluice
why do you play one of the worst heroes in the game
because I think puck was banned this game
buoyant sage
buoyant sage
QoP is trash imho
blink in
get OS'd
not trash, but there are way better heroes out there
than qop currently, by far
stiff pebble
I OS and I see option select and nothing else
vital pollen
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/833288875 throwback where i apparently played s...
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/706218817
throwback to when i was in same team as TI winner 
buoyant sage
tender fox
https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/706218817
throwback to when i was in same team ...
i used to prac with mind_control 
he was mid then though
tender fox
hmm u gamed with redorc wasnt he like wagamama fan number 1
tight sluice
throwback when I played with ceb
ceb is amazing
watching truesight 2018
he just swearing in french
LMAO
vital pollen
i used to prac with mind_control <a:NODDERS:808037663637897227>
yeah in my early days i had misery in my game like 3/5 times
buoyant sage
he just swearing in french
he is the same irl too, spent some time with him at ESWC 2013 back then, he was close to the french dota community, which is very small
awesome dude
tender fox
yeah in my early days i had misery in my game like 3/5 times
with prac i meant we kinda was a team but there was 0 tourneys so we just played other stacks, but yeah early days i gamed vs pros every game almost
stiff pebble
buoyant sage
I remembered I played Dazzle that game
we did a captains mode
and ceb was like "lets pick dazzle"
I was the noobiest in the stack and realized mid game I was key for the Necro survival
another one
dude perma wanted to pick dazzle idk
vital pollen
okay so, youre not harrassing at all in lane
your only harrass is with shadow strike, which is useless cuz you play against an LC
youre also getting firstblood, and you use it to bottlerush, when you literally dont need an early bottle that game
youre pulling creeps into your tower, instead of keeping creep equilibrium in the center of the lane where the LC will struggle lasthitting cause everytime she goes for a lasthit, you attack her 2-3 times
so youre not at all adjusting to the way the lane plays, and as a result, youre underfarmed on a lane you should be winning by level 5
youre full hp and 80% mana
and you leave lane before your first big powerspike to grab a bounty
and as a result youre missing out on a flagbearer creepwave
buoyant sage
vital pollen
you then get a haste rune top, and could get an easy kill on the enemy carry with it
but your lack of map awareness makes you miss out on it
why are you griefing intentionally?
you grab a haste top
buoyant sage
report hataro
errant tusk
buoyant sage
play support and increase your map awareness my dude
vital pollen
and its all because you went to grab a bounty
cause that made you miss out on the first siegewave
vital pollen
so yours is dead, other teams isnt, meaning as you go for the lv6 rune, the enemy wave is pushing into your tower, so have to choose between a kill and wave XP/gold
you dont unless you need to
usually the enemy support will grab yours anyway
buoyant sage
pos 4 usually does it
vital pollen
like, pos4 usually grabs the one from the enemy team
okay so
after missing that super easy kill
you activate the haste and run top
in the most obvious way possible
you still got a creep on you
everybody knows youre coming
enemy mid immediately pings that youre missing
you secure a doublekill, nice, and then you tp mid with no hp/mana
vital pollen
no
he solo kills you
just runs at you
cause you have blink cooldown
cause you blinked for no reason
in place
like bro
you talk about seeing other people "Intentionally grief"
and just watching you play for 7 minutes
theres 3 situations
tender fox
vital pollen
where i would argue
youre intentionally griefing
by picking up a haste and not ganking with it the moment you get it
or by feeding enemy mid
cuz you blink in place
and she just runs at you
and duels you
under your tower
do you see what i mean
tight sluice
intentionally griefing is ruining games on purpose
vital pollen
yeah
tight sluice
that's obv not what im doing
but I linked replay for advice not for you to flame me
vital pollen
you are in NO position to judge whether misplays by other people are intentional or not
my advice is to focus on your own game instead of whining about how others are ruining it, cause you are in no position to judge that
i dont play mid much, but heres what i would do: if you find a good ganking rune like haste, dd or invis, you move towards the lane where you found it immediately
if you move back to mid
and you wanna gank with that rune
you tp
you dont run to the lane again
cuz it takes too long
so i.e. with a haste, you either immediately rotate cuz people will be caught off guard by how quick youre on their lane, cuz no one predicts a haste
or you tp and do it that way
you shouldnt bottlerush against an enemy mid that has no way to harrass you
qop dumpsters most melee heroes. lc isnt as easy cuz she just dispells your shadow strike. but you can still just keep hitting her until she cant lasthit anymore
you got firstblood, just buy a null
thats 6 extra damage to harrass
tight sluice
you got firstblood, just buy a null
honestly I've ended up getting FB in a number of games now cause I stopped fullblocking and just contest runes
vital pollen
yeah, esp on heroes like qop who can do a lot
vital pollen
yeah. my point is, the best advice to gain ranks, is to not be toxic. no individual mechanical skill improvement will help you climb ranks as much, as honing your ability to play with your team and keeping a positive mental attitude will
tender fox
look at grubby just started the game and climbed to what 2.5k without a single flame
ur stuck at 1k mmr after 2k games so maybe realize ur not in a position to flame other ppl
you where u belong
tight sluice
grubby is a pro player in another game and got coached by a ton of high mmr players bro
I am not grubby
lmfao
I am trash
tight sluice
I have never been pro level in any game
tender fox
ye imagine him knowing how superior he is and still dont flame
and you still think ur better than the ppl in ur games
tight sluice
different personalities
tacit epoch
Flaming is also illogical
If someone makes a mistake
They most likely know it
So if you flame you're just throwing salt in the wound
tender fox
nah in hataros experience it make htem play 200% better and he win games
tacit epoch
And further tilting the guy
vital pollen
it is. youre just not willing to
tight sluice
i can review my
vital pollen
you should literally just
tight sluice
own play after
tender fox
prolly not qualified to review ur own games either 
buoyant sage
I clearly say out loud on voice (not in game) when someone doing shit, but just dont type or open VOIP
it just tilts ppl
make em play worse
you too
vital pollen
youre spending too much time on watching what other people are doing wrong
cuz youre looking for it
buoyant sage
either manage your anger issues or dont play any competitive/multiplayer game tbh
versed matrix
also wtf have they done with courier binds
vital pollen
its like going into a pug in m+ and expecting everybody to be shit, and then someone makes a mistake, cuz obviously no one is perfect, and it confirms your bias
you think youre in elohell stuck with trash players who grief on purpose, and so thats what you look for, and you find it, and you see your bias confirmed
tender fox
hataro like preheat
buoyant sage
it's like you want to be obtuse on purpose
tender fox
he would be flaming a ti winner in his team
vital pollen
imagine if you had a more positive outlook on playing the game and would look for the good things they do, and commend them for it, and motivate them to do even better
your rank would skyrocket
tight sluice
you think youre in elohell stuck with trash players who grief on purpose, and so...
NO
i never think this
doesnt stop me getting mad tho
vital pollen
then you should figure what the issue is/whats causing it
tender fox
cus seeing his teammates mistake make him realize how bad he actually is 
tacit epoch
imagine if you had a more positive outlook on playing the game and would look fo...
Unironically high five is a great morale booster
vital pollen
like legit
tacit epoch
You high five after a successful gank and it makes ppl slightly happier
vital pollen
change your outlook on the game
buoyant sage
when team mate gets a kil I send a >RRRRRRRAMPAAAAGE
tacit epoch
his brain is so big
vital pollen
you will always confirm your biases
so if you change your bias
youll enjoy the game more
and gain ranks as well
its the same with m+
i rarely have a bad pug experience, cause i look for the good plays that people make
others do the opposite, so they rage when an interrupt gets missed cuz that shit just fucking happens, nothing bad about it
and they all think pugs are awful
errant tusk
@vital pollen
errant tusk
so now we cant play together
vital pollen
well done
errant tusk
vital pollen
cuz you always play without me
errant tusk
I LITERALLY
versed matrix
is that immortal?
errant tusk
INVITED YOU TO GAME TOO YE
errant tusk
buoyant sage
errant tusk
im just mk/ursa/slark/jugg picker now
buoyant sage
ethical
errant tusk
idk if im bad at morph or its a hero that kinda needs specific picks
like people in pubs see morph
and last pick stupid shit like sniper
or arc warden
and people be like why do we have to play 3v5
well coz your midlaner last picked arc warden when we have morph
buoyant sage
arc warden is a nightmare fuel in itself
errant tusk
also anytime i picked it some guy would last pick pl or naga into you and its
all my games against pl i lose coz we have nothing against pl coz its last pick pl
everytime carry player gets last pick its last pick pl i swear
buoyant sage
lost my 10-win Clock streak yesterday
we got fucked hard by pl last pick the other day
we literally had NOTHING to stop him, ran at us
gg
errant tusk
miserable when you dont have good hero for him
buoyant sage
horrible
tender fox
should i log in to an old dota acc and ruin games or on a decayed mmr and still lose 
errant tusk
your mmr is gonna be real low
so probably wont be that baed
bad*
like you will be archon probably if its rly not been touched
i did placements in 2k16 and i ended up on divine 2 or sth
tender fox
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/30335209 i mean i got this
errant tusk
then i didnt play for 2-3 more years
and i ended up on legend5/ancient1
or sth like that
tender fox
and then i got an account that i logged in on every ti and played like 5-10 games that is now down at archon
errant tusk
ye
makes sense
the mmr decay is pretty strong
or maybe gets exponentially stronger idk
tender fox
maybe calibrate this old divine acc to see where its at for science
errant tusk
4 years ago you palyed on divine
so probably gonna end up legend
id assume?
so like b etween 3-4k
tender fox
no idea
errant tusk
this associate phone witth dota is dumbest shit ever
coz you can just swap it around multiple accs
tender fox
how is it to few hours
errant tusk
you have it on the acc you linked?
tender fox
errant tusk
probably you played at times where you could JUST go ranked
but then they changed system
and you had no reason to play unranked
so you almost never did
they changed that system more than once
tender fox
ye i guess
errant tusk
some of us that have accs from like 2011/12/13/14 maybe even
when there was no ranked
we just got this part for free
because ye there was only unraked
even tho there was hidden mmr
tender fox
well this acc should also be from then
errant tusk
but it was 'unranked'
tender fox
oh well
i actually had like 6 accs
cus was unplayable with friends unless low mmr
or rather my friends where so bad they couldnt play vs any real opponent
versed matrix
all I knew back then was "very high skill" tag on dotabuff
tender fox
you should try to main support instead
buoyant sage
"support is so boring"
proceeds to hit 350 creeps for 30 min
tight sluice
I main mid dadsen
buoyant sage
started dota playin mid, then pos 3, then I truly learned the game playing the role I main today
pos 4
tight sluice
offlane is fun af too
only time I enjoy support
is when I play marci
or rubick
buoyant sage
it should obligatory to play at least X games as support, literally a perma map awareness lesson
warding sense, positioning
all the fundamentals
tight sluice
yeah it's still boring af
tender fox
lol my eyes got tired from just 1 game, not used to gaming
tight sluice
@vital pollen ok this was a bit intentionally grief
LOL
didnt do that on purpose lmfao
i was kiting the camp with a click and accidentally clicked the bounty
vital pollen
tight sluice
team bad not me
vital pollen
just typical pango issue
of people thinking you roll into the direction you blink
but you keep the momentum you have when you blink, so he keeps rolling to the right
tight sluice
is pango a good hero to learn
torn girder
Hataro just stop being 1k noob they are right lol
tacit epoch
They should make more support cosmetics
Got some excellent disruptor players that were playing the hero because of the new mount
versed matrix
I won a game of dota 2
stiff pebble
versed matrix
our puck smurfed them
stiff pebble
tender fox
im 3-2 in archon bracket
versed matrix
I had to play 5 in 2 games
versed matrix
CM x2 but mid/off lost in both games
got 1 beastmaster game in but it was into ursa and I had a real nice DP as my 4
he thought he was 3 though
gutter strats all around
idk what to really do as a 5 when lane is in good position for my carry
and I cant really trade anymore
vital pollen
invade triangle
versed matrix
as CM vs WR + legion for example
vital pollen
check if theyve been stacking
get a ward in their triangle
get bounties/cover 6/8min rune
do double-stack in your jungle
versed matrix
idk my carry just died under tower when I went a way for a bit
vital pollen
well it depends on where the lane is
if creeps are close to enemy tower
you need to stay
cuz they can chase down the carry
vital pollen
you wanna leave when lane is close to your own tower
versed matrix
but he just died
vital pollen
couldve just been misplay from him
versed matrix
no boots low key sad as cm
vital pollen
but you shouldnt babysit for as long, especially if lane equilibrium is good
gotta get your own item progression going, help other lanes, get vision up or stack for your carry/mid
versed matrix
yeah I tried to give him the lane and use spells on the heroes from the side
I had decent item progression myself but my cores had no farm both games
and I was food for their picks
I just need to start with lane fundamentals for all roles and relearn everything
tide game was the best, lane went decently even though my silencer fed the PA we got kills
was weird though because I couldnt really frontline because they picked doom
in the end our puck smurfed on them
ill probably try to focus on 3/5 for now because I wont get anything else
tight sluice
I fucked this game up
so bad
we couldve won
I fucked up at the end and blinked in wrong
stiff pebble
Yep
torn girder
nah ill never blame people for ff@15 in league lol
that game has terrible comeback ability
your comeback criteria is, did your enemy throw
enemy threw? ight comeback time
buoyant sage
Id ff @15 every game if I had to play this game too
tight sluice
your comeback criteria is, did your enemy throw
It's kinda funny because the best region/most successful international region is infamous for their soloq being open mid if laning phase is lost
Theres alot of reasons why comebacks are harder.
Mainly because items are just pure stats really and ita alot harder to overcome level/item deficits
torn girder
ye leagues bad
tight sluice
Also if you lose top and die twice the lane is over and you're fucked unless your team is stomping.
torn girder
well ye your spells actually scale from items way harder lol so if you gain a lead its almost impossible to comeback unless the other team goes afk
because
their spells hit for 1000 yours hit for 500
congrats
you just get rolled
unless they just miss their spells over and over
tight sluice
Only thing is shutdowns can swing games way harder.
torn girder
meh
tight sluice
1k shutdown to the wrong person will swing the game hard
But the whole shutdown system is dumb
Even if you're getting stomped you can get a shutdown on losing team
Theres other things too like.
Herald creates a massive problem for losing team as winning team just knocks down all your towers easily
Plates are basically extra kills
But ye. Comebacks happen more in dota and also games are longer rn
I hate high ground
But at the same time it's good
tight sluice
@torn girder do you main playing mid
torn girder
thats what i played mostly while climbing from my first calibration of like low/mid 2k to 4k
tender fox
oh god beat some tinker spammer cus tree vision is op
torn girder
I need some new mid picks
death prophet, leshrac, lina, kunkka
those are generic mid laners that dont really have super ass lanes
and usually are mediocre at worst
tight sluice
Ye I like lesh and DP. I don't really like lina tbh
torn girder
why not
tacit epoch
Kunka cleave go brrr
torn girder
tbh i dont like the physical kunkka build
i wish the game was slow enough that you could go fuckign like
radiance eternal shroud aghs on him
but its too slow and just sucks lmao
kunkka aghs probably my favorite aghs in the game
tight sluice
What is it?
torn girder
torrent storm
tacit epoch
Fps drop storm
tight sluice
I think his shard is the wave
torn girder
its like medium length cd that when you press
it just spams his q
all around the location you casted
the shard is the wave yea its also really sick
very good underrated shard imo
tight sluice
I want to learn kunkka and pangos
torn girder
oh yea pango is another good mid
tacit epoch
Now if ppl would realise that bounty is a strong 3 and shouldn't play 4 most of the timr that would be splendid
vital pollen
very good underrated shard imo
its like marci shard, not that easy to use
torn girder
farms fast has good impact with ult
tight sluice
Isnt marci shard just ass
torn girder
no
its a repositioning tool
repositioning tools are always op in this game
i.e magnus ti 10
tight sluice
Her shard kicks her allies tho doesnt it
vital pollen
yes
torn girder
ye lol you can save people
vital pollen
basically gives you the ability to save people
from a long range away
can save your carry from getting blackholed or chronoed
tight sluice
Afaik magnus shard was just broken cause it stunned and made using his dash ez
vital pollen
or die in another disable
torn girder
Kunkka shard is nice for highground attacking and defending
tight sluice
I've used it when getting off rosh
vital pollen
I just never see anyone use it
thats cause its kinda useless in regular games
but super good in highskill ones 😄
so many games in TI where marci shard saved a teamfight