had a WD intentionally feeding one game. We managed to win but it was not fun. 3 games in a row now with junglers.
#Dota
tight sluice
LC walking around this game not using her spells like. Walking up to mfs and not casting duel on purpose when you ping
just aids. And I probably won a bunch of games due to people griefing the other team too
tight sluice
I'm not good enough to carry these people honestly
so it is shitty
nah it's just that these people don't play the game so they don't give a fuck they're there for their free arcana and to leave
tight sluice
@torn girder EZ HUSKAR
tight sluice
yeah they spent the entire game
ganking top
and I was like 5 levels ahead when I finally joined fights and was 2 shotting their supports
1k games bro
errant tusk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL_IEsNDOn8 i didnt knwo this exists
but its pure gold
tight sluice
god I can't stand Qojqva he's so boring to listen to
tight sluice
Lmfao
torn girder
Hataro gatekeeping 1k mmr ranked games
tight sluice
tacit epoch
Because everyone will pick the persona
tight sluice
yeah bro but like
cm isnt' like invoker or some sit
but she gets banned every game anyway
stiff pebble
Yeah but she may as well be 
vital pollen
yeah idk
think hes better as offlaner, idk
hes greedy but it works
but maybe he just doesnt wanna play tempo heroes
errant tusk
he said some times he'd rather play carry i think
so i guess would rather swap now
his offlane hero pool was questionable 
maybe on safelane he will play more heroes
tender fox
joining nigma
tender fox
gonna make middle eastern team with miracle, yapzor, gh etc
guess he had enough of playing 1v5
ghost also, guess team is done with maybe retirement etc
tight sluice
Where part 2 GabeN wake up
distant yoke
Maybe Pure is going to VP
Ammar is best buddies with fishman in Entity
Could be something
vital pollen
joining nigma
doubt it
hes not brand appropriate
and im guessing entity is "too low" on the totem pole for ammar
vital pollen
what?
they formed their own org, and theyve pushed a healthy and PMA agenda pretty hard
like, theyre pushing for diversity and equal representation in gaming, for example, and ammar does not strike me as a person who cares about anything but his own ego. hes certainly not a player you can really use for publicity, but rather have to do damage control a lot
tender fox
like sumail
just that he doesnt speak out anymore cus he aint performing
but yeah i just thought it would be fun with full middle east team
vital pollen
sumail matured a lot
been a while since he had to be reigned in
like, ammar is an insane player but im not sure how many orgs would wanna pick him up
the few that would, he probably doesnt wanna join
inb4 secret kick crystallis and get ammar
tender fox
i also bet misha is byebye next and ceb+notail comeback
vital pollen
tender fox
prolly not notail but ceb will fill pos3
distant yoke
Maybe jerax as pos 3
vital pollen
being one of the most famous faces of esports in france, and all of europe really
hes kind of an esports ambassador these days, and i think he enjoys that role
vital pollen
think outside of china EU is the only region with lots of support. orgs that arent predatory, lots of talent for coaches and captains
SEA doesnt have any solid captains for example
so most people relocate to regions with more established captains that you can play with
vital pollen
ye
errant tusk
so i think some teams/players go with that approach too
vital pollen
youd be better off going to south america
errant tusk
ye
vital pollen
i hope they change
errant tusk
if most/all of the good players come to EU
vital pollen
TI in general
fuck having 20 teams
groupstage
with 5games simultaneously
that are bo2
errant tusk
ye thats too many
vital pollen
and then 8 teams in LB with bo1
errant tusk
2 games at same time is ok
vital pollen
its uselesss
invite 14teams
+2 from LCQ
do a proper
bo3 swiss format
for seeding
errant tusk
csgo has almost perfect system for that
vital pollen
then have all teams in upper bracket
errant tusk
except they dont reseed
they do bo1s early on in the grp stage
and once its game 3 which could be qualification or elimination game they are bo3 from this point on
errant tusk
its only rly fucked if considered best and considered 2nd best team lose 1st round
vital pollen
bo2 groupstage has to go
errant tusk
and they can match each other
in 0-1 game
which is like ?? bro why
just reseed/use some sort of ranking
vital pollen
this shit is unacceptable
from esl malaysia
same for TI
you ahve teams
9-9
with bo1 elimination after
while a team that went 10-8, literally only won one more game out of 18
has to lose 4 games to be eliminated
tender fox
its only rly fucked if considered best and considered 2nd best team lose 1st rou...
well the best teams are already in the main tourney
vital pollen
and then you eliminate 4 teams directly
none of which shouldve been there in the first place
errant tusk
thats not true
g2 got kinda fucked or c9 you could say
coz they had to lose 1 of their life playing each other on 0-1 game
tender fox
wdym g2 didnt even qualify
errant tusk
ye and its same system
they use in rmr
as in 'challenger stage' and 'legend stage'
or w/e they're called nowadays
why would g2 and c9 be ever matched in their 0-1 game in swiss system when they're like rank 5/6 team respectively
or you know close to that
and noname team plays another noname team
vital pollen
you dont need some dumb fucking 180 games in a 5day groupstage, its so pointless. and bo2s are pointless as well
errant tusk
basically have to sacrifice 1 of your life to dogshit system where they dont seed/reseed and is just full rng who you play
errant tusk
or have some ranking you follow
usually they arent egregious, sure people might disagree
vital pollen
but swiss system without reseeding is stupid as fuck
tender fox
dont they usually actually follow htlv ranks
errant tusk
i dont think they follow any ranks when we get 'deep' into swiss system
vital pollen
could literally just give a high seed to each major winner and each division winner
errant tusk
maybe for the very 1st round
vital pollen
but it shouldnt be random who you play in swiss, that defeats the entire purpose
if 4 teams are 1-0 and 4teams are 0-1, the "highest seeded" 0-1 team needs to play the lowest seeded one
not random shit
vital pollen
ye
vital pollen
thats garbage
vital pollen
you can go into swiss as seed #1, lose first game cuz unlucky, and then play #7 team instead of #15
errant tusk
and once its elimination/qualification they have bo3 which is rly good
coz if you are a good team but just shit the bed in bo1s you still have wayt better odds of making it in bo3s
vital pollen
youd no longer have 5 games simultaneously
and it wouldnt be some dogshit bo2
bo2 is the fucking worst
cause over half the time
its just 1-1 anyway
between evenly matched teams
errant tusk
how is c9 playing g2 but spirit plays sprout for example
that doesnt sound right
when they're idk 5th and 6th team +/-
some could say c9 is 3rd team even
vital pollen
yeah like
as for dota, just make it longer
and dont have 20 fucking t eams
for a 16team tournament
most unnecessary shit ever
same as 8 teams starting from LB
errant tusk
since TI is so huge it should take ages and format should be very favourable for good teams
least rng possible
which they did for the most part anyway tbh
tender fox
i mean g2 lost to 2 shitters anyway they had their chances
vital pollen
the stage that decides UB/LB seeding should not have more than 16 teams anymore
tender fox
and c9 got knocked down by spirit 
errant tusk
still doesnt change fact theyh had to lose one of their lifes to team they shouldnt be playing
vital pollen
otherwise the dogshit teams just ruin the competition
especially in bo2s
where they will take a win here or there
spirit lost one series in groups and get lower bracket
aster lost 2 but is upper
errant tusk
in csgo we have world that allows rank 1 team and rank 2 team play each other in 0-1 game in swiss system
a bo1 where one of them will go 0-2
thats outrageous
vital pollen
ye
tender fox
and they played eachother in 1-0 games not 0-1 and went 0-2
errant tusk
point still stands shouldnt play each other
alpine wren
idk theres an easy fix for teams that dont like it
simply be the #1 team and then ur opponent doesnt matter
vital pollen
ofc it matters
errant tusk
it matters for viewers too
vital pollen
#1 and #2 team can play each other after winning their first bo1 and sitting at 1-0 score
thats fucking dumb
while some rancid #7 and #8 team play each other with one of them going 2-0 guaranteed
a small upset here or there, and suddenly you have a top3 team going 1-2 cause they lost twice to the best teams of the tournament
tender fox
it looks like they are all qualed from last major where they got worse seed t han faze, spirit and nip
which make sense that htey play eachother then
tender fox
and bne got lower than that so they are listed in seedings
so their matchup is on seedings
based on previous majors
tight sluice
the fuck is this volvo
errant tusk
ye their seeding is just dogshit
vital pollen
ideal global finals/world championship/TI is LCQ, quick pre-seeding stage, swiss into 16team upper bracket (can do 14 if you wanna give 2 teams a bye/eliminate 2 teams) and then everything bo3
errant tusk
if they're doing it based on last major that was 6 months ago id rather have them do it random i think 
tragedy
errant tusk
but csgo is stupid
tender fox
i mean those seeded higher actually placed highest in the qual also so
vital pollen
180games in 5days groupstage
tender fox
seems like a solid system
tender fox
vital pollen
sprouteezy 
tight sluice
Ok where tf is the update what is this
tight sluice
@vital pollen ITS REAL
WAIT THE RAZOR ARCANA IS COMING SOON STILL
LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
NO SHOT
tight sluice
valve wants everyone to play league
that's gotta be it
wait till we get in game I guess before final judgement
when is part 3 coming?
vital pollen
<@210784027752398848> ITS REAL
fursona
vital pollen
its a shame cuz like
CM has sooooo many items
multiple immortals
arcana
giving her a persona is kind of a waste
just like it was for pudge
tacit epoch
That OD taunt is something else
stiff pebble
alpine wren
man
another announcer pack
another day without nyx incoherent chittering announcer
tight sluice
and candyworks you cant even choose an arcana you want it's random
this is the worst fuckin gbattlepass I have ever seen in my life
valve is a shit company on god
tight sluice
vital pollen
few battlepasses ago there were similar issues
nah
valve is one thing, and thats "fair"
tight sluice
anyway I cant play rn cause t he game is going boom
vital pollen
hmye
but seriously
valve has a great track record of fixing mistakes they made
stop reading reddit as much
and youll not only enjoy the game more
but also wont be as cynical about shit
vital pollen
valve aint riot or blizzard. theyre a much better dev, even if stupid people on reddit like to think otherwise
tight sluice
comparing them to riot
OMEGALUJL
removing arcanas from the game after previously selling them in the store
selling them for min $200
vital pollen
huh?
tight sluice
totally better than riot
vital pollen
not sure what youre referring to
tight sluice
the arcanas?
that are removed
from the game?
along with other cosmetics like immortal gardens that are no longer available
tight sluice
yes
tight sluice
?
vital pollen
during the battlepass?
vital pollen
yes
vital pollen
can you stop being a league player and talk like a normal human in here?
tight sluice
according to u MK arcana is not available in the shop rn
vital pollen
qop and WR arcana were exclusives to the battlepass they were in
mk, sf, lina arcana etc. are all different
tight sluice
they set a precedent and had these arcanas for sale and then switched it to make more money
it's the ultimate scum level of business move
vital pollen
theres hundreds of dota2 items that are unobtainable now, because they were part of some event or ticket that you can no longer buy
tight sluice
yeah
that's aids business practice
which riot
doesn't do
dota 2 is a good game
vital pollen
the qop and wr arcana, from the very beginning, were part of the battlepass, and as such they were limited edition (and also vastly more expensive)
tight sluice
but literally everything riot does
is better than valve
especially on the skins
only thing is with valve u can get immortals for like $0.50
alpine wren
yeah riot only releases limited time events every 2 weeks with limited edition skins that require purchasing passes before they become completely unavailable again
vital pollen
youre literally just mad you dont have those skins, or that they werent as cheap as other arcanas. unlucky.
tight sluice
yeah riot only releases limited time events every 2 weeks with limited edition s...
you can still get that shit in the mythic shop wdym
vital pollen
or that you cant buy them from market
alpine wren
ashen knight pyke
tight sluice
everyting else is available
vital pollen
but that much was known from the very beginning of them releasing them
tight sluice
youre literally just mad you dont have those skins, or that they werent as cheap...
yeah that's part of it
vital pollen
same as mirana/invoker/pudge persona etc.
vital pollen
or same as
tight sluice
esp when you set the precedent
that this type of skin is on the shop for $45 then change it down the line
vital pollen
why? plenty of companies produce toys or print cards that are only available for a certain amount of time
tight sluice
cause you're greedy af
you brought up the riot to valve comparison
and I'm explaining to you riot doesn't do shit like this outside of rare exceptions
vital pollen
thats literally not what the battlepass is. the battlepass exists to allow players to support TI and the game because they enjoy it. and you get a metric fuckton of shit while you do so
vital pollen
thats because riot still hasnt managed to copy the battlepass system the way dota does it
tight sluice
which is over
and now the money goes straight to valve
because riot doesn't need to
vital pollen
if you see a battlepass now in any game, you can thank valve for that. they literally invented that shit.
tight sluice
in fact if I compare valorant riot doesn't even put the best skins in battlepasses they go in a bundle for a limited time then to the rotating shop
vital pollen
ah nice, so instead of getting shit "for free" for supporting the game, you have to buy them specifically. that's much better, yes.
tight sluice
which is another issue in and of itself but better than not ever being able to get that cool cosmetic I want
for free?
vital pollen
not all arcanas are the same
tight sluice
what shit for free seli u buy the BP
I bought level 100 and the level bundle
that's how I'm close to razor rn and will get FV
I'm lucky
vital pollen
yeah, and you get a shitton of immortals and other goodies for it
tight sluice
I have disposable income to waste on pixels
the immortals suck but that's a personal pref thing
vital pollen
youre just mad somethings exclusive. unlucky.
vital pollen
i think its great
tight sluice
even in wow
vital pollen
legacy items and things that are no longer obtainable are great
tight sluice
arcanas should be an exception
vital pollen
i dont have a bunch of things from old events cause i didnt try hard enough to get them
they might as well not call them arcanas then
tight sluice
because they're literally diff from everything else you can get in game
vital pollen
and suddenly your logic would fall flat anyway
vital pollen
plenty of non arcana items that change skills or the entire style of the hero. we have personas now that change portrait too
tight sluice
great there's some cool ones I can get for heroes I barely play, and good on valve I got jugg arcana which I actually play that hero
vital pollen
yeah, and theres arcanas that you can buy at all times, and theres limited edition arcanas
tight sluice
but qop is my second most played hero
this literally makes me want to uninstall and go play league at times
tight sluice
cause I'm not locked out of buying the majority of skins for my favorite champs in that game
seli I didn't play then
vital pollen
theres a shitton of great-looking items for qop
stiff pebble
vital pollen
wdym
stiff pebble
seli I didn't play then
Mistakes were made.
tight sluice
outside of 2 immortals
that's also where the argument of exclusive shit falls apart
it turns new players off the game
vital pollen
the immortal wings are great, theres like 10 different hairstyles, im using a non-arcana one for example
if it turns idiots off the game who get mad over not owning a skin from a time when they didnt play the game, then im glad theyre quitting again
lmao
stiff pebble
Also don't act like all people like the same things, or that people have not, 4 years, complained that crystal maiden has 4,000 cosmetic items and tiny had six
vital pollen
get mad over skins in a completely f2p game
stiff pebble
tight sluice
it ruins my enjoyment yeah
vital pollen
stiff pebble
What a weird person you are
tight sluice
when there's a perfectly good competitor that doesn't do this
tight sluice
I love the game of dota
vital pollen
so its fine
tight sluice
it's awesome
tight sluice
everything inside the game
stiff pebble
stiff pebble
tight sluice
fair enough
vital pollen
riot has to milk LoL as much as they can
and the players who play it
cause if they dont, they cant pay their employees
tight sluice
?
stiff pebble
Could they milk their players into a better client?
tight sluice
they literally have valorant wdym
vital pollen
valorant is fairly new still, and league pulls in much larger numbers than valorant ever will
tight sluice
same shit with the artifact weapons in wow seli we had the same argument other that I literally hate exclusive shit
vital pollen
yeah well, unlucky. lots of things are exclusive
tight sluice
I'm the most capitalist mf in this discord how do I end up the one on this hill
vital pollen
both in reallife and in games
bubonic plague was exclusive too
cant get it anymore
tight sluice
I mean I'll play it just sucks ass
stiff pebble
We can try
vital pollen
thats actually not true, you still can
spanish flu you cant get anymore
or smallpox
stiff pebble
People need to learn to enjoy the things they have, and stop yearning for the things they can't.
You can get smallpox
vital pollen
ye
tight sluice
valorant is fairly new still, and league pulls in much larger numbers than valor...
you're right cause valorant will never pop in china
like league has
vital pollen
well sure but only if you break into one of the remaining superlabs that still have a strain of it
vital pollen
life is full of time-limited and exclusive shit. its important for long-standing games that make their revenue on micro-transactions, to provide a wide array of permanently available skins, while also offering some time-limited ones that you can only get during certain events
if you didnt get one of those select few that are unobtainable now (and in valves case, a lot of those you can still get on the market anyway), then you can just use one of the 5000 other ones
vital pollen
i got a dragonlaw hook in the first diretide
and sold it for like
my courier and a bunch of other things
that are maybe worth 200€
dragonclaw hook was worth over 1000€ at some point
unlucky
i missed my chance
tight sluice
I would be ok if arcanas were brought back in a way you had to spend equivalent $ to earn them for a limited time
stiff pebble
Yeah make new cool shit
tight sluice
because they ain't making another qop arcana
tight sluice
or drow
tight sluice
heroes I don't play
stiff pebble
There are very few things from years ago that are stand out for being cool and high quality
tight sluice
stiff pebble
Those are very rare
tight sluice
I just lucky I play void and razor
stiff pebble
And that void set is fucking awesome
tight sluice
yeah I like it alot
stiff pebble
It's effectively a redesign of his entire aesthetic
Where is in the past you got a hammer with lightning on it
Whoa
vital pollen
like
this battlepass is definitely more disappointing than the last 2 ones
but thats because the last 2 battlepasses were fucking ridiculous
tight sluice
I had copium the arcanas would be in the candyworks (qop/drow ect.) and thought it would be just gamba to get them
vital pollen
and compared to most other battlepasses, this one is still really really good
tight sluice
like 10% chance
vital pollen
i trust valve when they say something will never be accessible
if WR arcana becomes buyable on market
itll be worth a lot more
than what we paid for it
tight sluice
let's face it seli
vital pollen
almost every carry has arcana or multiple immortals at this point
tight sluice
carry is the role that sells
vital pollen
tight sluice
same with mid
tight sluice
support not a popular role
tight sluice
I like support sometimes more than carry
vital pollen
so by virtue of the role system, theres more support players out there than any other role
tight sluice
you feel like you have more influence on the game
just unluigi if your carry is a potato
ok I lied
arcane skins were exclusive
I just had them on my other account and bought 2 ccounts that have them so I am lucky
vital pollen
vital pollen
be glad valve is managing dota and not riot
versed matrix
tight sluice
riot does alot for league
vital pollen
yeah, cause its their golden pig
tight sluice
on the flip side of it thought seli there are alot of immortals and things in the market for really really cheap
which almost no other game does
well not almost, no other game does that
vital pollen
the league franchise keeps riot in business, they cant afford to fuck it up. but theyre exploiting the players and making the game very much not an enjoyable game for a lot of people who like competitive play
i could never play league because i dont wanna hve to buy heroes
tight sluice
well it's different
vital pollen
game still runs on an omega shit client
esports is being monetized like crazy for maximum profit, not maximum viewer (or player) enjoyment
alpine wren
game still runs on an omega shit client
league client isnt melting down every major update
tight sluice
lmfao
vital pollen
game will never receive gamechanging additions or changes to it like dota has multiple times
alpine wren
(it melts down every update, not just the major ones)
vital pollen
cause itd alienate too many paypigs
alpine wren
vital pollen
i was gonna say
vital pollen
arent the league servers shitting themselves every patch
and the client just randomly crashes all the time anyway
tight sluice
one of the reasons I left for dota recetly is they really DO need to make some serious changes to the game
I like that dota changes the map on updates
vital pollen
dota is still a game. league is a business. id rather play the game
tight sluice
(remove the water runes if)
vital pollen
rune RNG is why i could never play mid
tight sluice
eh
it's not that bad
maybe at the higher higher end
down with us piss lows
it isn't bad
sometimes you get it
some times you get got
I can't play safelane cause u rely on this fucking mouthbreather to do anything for the first 10 mins of the game
vital pollen
yeah nah
you can demolish someone in lane
then they get lucky haste
roam to sidelane get a doublekill
and game is even
or they find a regen
with 5% hp left
and your support isnt guarding runes
alpine wren
man i love midlane
tight sluice
yeah that's why I love mid
alpine wren
i like playing so terribly and being denied and then regen rune comes to bail me out
tight sluice
play husk in to ember
and watch him self rope
at 5 mins
ok lets see how dota has improved me at league
mid is fun
torn girder
Certain arcanas were always exclusive
torn girder
Also if riot managed dota the game would no longer be dota it would just be ruined
tight sluice
only prob with riot they might just over buff/nerf
torn girder
Thats not the only problem lol
They’d also implement their own dog shit casters into pro play so
Watching official streams would just be
Not bearable
torn girder
Whatsoever
tight sluice
oh hell nah
vital pollen
watching dota is much better
tight sluice
league casters are actually good
tight sluice
HOLY FUCK THIS GAME FEELS WEIRD NOW
torn girder
I love hearing fake enthusiasm
The ENTIRE TIME
every moment of the game
They try to make it sound like the most exciting shit ever
vital pollen
reminds me of the allstar game
at TI
i pity league casters
having to cast a game
where its normal to only have 2-3 kills by minute 15
torn girder
Have to feign enthusiasm during the boring as fuck early game that league has
torn girder
afk early game, then aram for 5 mins aaaaaand gg
vital pollen
ye
torn girder
WOW WHAT A SUPER EXCITING POG GAME HOLY WOW
vital pollen
not particularly exciting
like
the mechanical skill involved is nice to watch but like
torn girder
DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT EPIC MOMENT WHEN HE LAST HIT THE CANNON MINION AT MINUTE 3 WOW
vital pollen
at some point you just expect people to play "perfectly"
torn girder
I actually dont mind the english cast of dota games most of the time lol
vital pollen
so i cant even listen to odpixel
torn girder
Is insanely cringe to listen to
vital pollen
only good caster is cap
torn girder
Odpixel can be pretty league cringe-esque
Constant excitement like hes on coke
Like bro calm down
vital pollen
he just talks too fast
torn girder
Its not a teamfight
vital pollen
doesnt matter how "insane" it sounds
its not good casting imo
cap is the best caster cause he actually knows shit
and sees small details
torn girder
I like listening to the russian cast most
But i will always take dota english cast over any official riot cast
Truly the most unbearable shit in esports
vital pollen
yeah, rucast has been really good for years
torn girder
Its not even just league
It extends to valorant
Which just solidifies that theyre all just told to be hyper aggressively excited about everything and emphasize everything
Just sound like bots
Not even humans
tender fox
Is it ow league cringe
torn girder
Idk never watched owl
But ye fuck the idea of riot ever managing dota sounds like a terrible idea lmao
vital pollen
i honestly find it funny
that people think valve is doing anything with dota out of greed
when the revenue dota generates is just a tiny piece compared to the money they make thanks to steam
torn girder
First hero under riots reign, first passive - this hero has a 3rd resource called luminescence, every piece of gold collected gives 1 stack of luminescence, each ability spends a certain amount of luminescence to gain special effects. First ability can either spend 5 15 30 or 48.67 luminescence to gain on of 4 effects at differing magnitudes.
Holy crap riot so genius wow!
vital pollen
as if valve would need to earn a few dozen million extra off of dota
when they make billions off of steam
tight sluice
DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT EPIC MOMENT WHEN HE LAST HIT THE CANNON MINION AT MINUTE 3...
my favorite is when they talk out their ass and are just plain wrong
that
part of league casters irritates the living shit out of me
but pro league is boring
unless it's lpl/lck
torn girder
Thats cuz league is shit low skill game
tight sluice
league and dota feel very opposite.
league feels really good for soloq and is well suited for it. But the pro end isn't the greatest>
dota feels the opposite. really well designed for 5v5 competive but is not as good soloq
nah
there are things in league that take, way more skill than dota
tight sluice
piloting your character alone is easier in dota on the majority of the roster
like more than half the characters just right click
or spam targeted spells
tight sluice
yeah but there are no targeted spells or very few
tight sluice
everything is a skillshot and no turnspeed means footsie is really important being able to DI to dodge skillshots is really hard in a teamfight
torn girder
torn girder
Ye except everything is low cd low many cost you just spam in an aram style line fight
tight sluice
dota has nothing like irelia, akali
azir
but
on the other hand
zoo heroes are crazy
hard to play
tight sluice
they're just different skills
torn girder
Positioning and timing is way more important in dota
Waaaaay more important
And yes
Shit like invoker and meepo
Is 10x harder than anything league has to offer
torn girder
Huh
Clueless individual
Unfortunate
Even if it was a trash hero that doesn’t really dispute meepo being infinitely harder than anything in league
torn girder
Ye you have to cope with skillful play being using infinite dashes and hitting 3 sec cd skill shots 
Oh yea and buying stopwatch and using it to survive some shit
tight sluice
@torn girderplay a couple games of league, realize why I can't stand this game anymore
where coordiantor
tight sluice
dota is so scuffed right now I can't even skip my treasures opening it's so weird
is there usually only one battlepass a year?
vital pollen
ye
we used to have one for every major
but that was kinda excessive
used to be called compendium back then
tight sluice
what was aghs lab and nemestice then?
were they TI stuff or
also looks like the TI 10 immortals still arent on the market
tight sluice
How often does valve do those?
stiff pebble
tight sluice
what is the point of even playing the diretide gamemode
vital pollen
What's the point of a fun mode?
tight sluice
like is there anything special ?
vital pollen
Idk
tight sluice
is rerolls only from there or
vital pollen
Maybe there's a hint buried somewhere
In the name of the mode
Let's see... Funmode.... Hmmm.... It sure is a puzzler
tacit epoch
you get a reroll from winning a regular game as welll
tacit epoch
the point is fun no?
tight sluice
I won a game and didn't get a reroll?
also doesn't seem to progress cavern crawl either
although I just won and the cavern crawl thing popped up
but when I look at it it's showing no progress again
ok now it's showing maybe the client is just super scuffed rn
tight sluice
for fun or no
I thought there was some special progress you would get
for the candy shop
but I guess not so
no point to diretide for me
torn girder
I didnt realize cm arcana is literally a dog
I thought it was like the other one
Where its her and a pet dog
torn girder
The animations on some of these personas are kinda jank
The PA one the running animation is fucking jank asf
Looks like the guy has a stick in his ass
torn girder
Ye it is annoying how persona cant be altered at all
But ig they are meant to just he a holistic skin with no variation
(Except the variation they create for the persona specifically lmao)
I am still forever sad i didn’t get the wr and qop arcanas
Every time i play one of them i cry
vital pollen
tight sluice
Welcome to my life DK as a qop player
torn girder
I wonder if they will ever change nullifier recipe
tight sluice
yeah anything with relic is ass
torn girder
Ye makes it so no one every really builds null as a standard item its always response to euls and ghost scepters but by the time you build a nullifier those items have paid for themselves
tight sluice
TA arcana when?
tight sluice
Ye makes it so no one every really builds null as a standard item its always res...
wait
wdym euls
torn girder
Hataro just casually posting softcore porn
tight sluice
ghost I get
torn girder
Nullifier cancels eul
tight sluice
really?
torn girder
Uh no
Im pretty sure it also just dispels while they are eul’d
So they come down from eul
For some reason im not 100% sure about that one but pretty sure i have seen it
tight sluice
you can target someone who is eulsed?
torn girder
Just very infrequently since no one buys nullifier
tight sluice
its very situational
usually I buy it exclusively if theres something like necro + wr
or something where ill get good value
torn girder
I mean that item will always get good value in a longer game
torn girder
If the people are semi competent with their builds that is
Because
You can nullifier aeon disk
Ghost
Force staff
Etc
tacit epoch
A bit annoying that game sometimes automatically redirects gamemode to diretide
torn girder
I swear nullifier dispels aeon disk
torn girder
Thats only like stuns and shit lol
torn girder
Ye nullifier is giga good its just literally no one buys it pre-emptively ever
Because obviously the buildup fucking sucks
tight sluice
I build it on TA occasionally
torn girder
Let me just bank 3750 for sacred relic 
tight sluice
maybe I need to look at a list of what it dispels
torn girder
Ye only reason i bring it up is cause i was pondering why wr isn’t picked mid rn in this meta where right click build mids are strong
And was thinking that its cause force staff is so op
But then you can just buy a null
But null buildup just feels absolutely awful
torn girder
Ye they are supposed to just be very strong items
But ye it will basically dispel everything that can be dispelled
So like ta refraction it will take off
Wait does refraction have a cannot be dispelled text
Ider
torn girder
Strong dispels can remove stuns
torn girder
Abaddon shield removes stuns off allies
You can’t manta off a stun once its done
You cant lotus a stun off
You can lotus a silence off
Pretty sure the biggest difference is you can’t basic dispel a stun off
There might be some very minor dota-esque caveats or some shit that i dont know about
Oh and strong dispels can dispel hex
tight sluice
jesus the dota client is like
fully broken
like I can't even open my immortal chests, if I recycle it doesn't even record that I did it
vital pollen
is that the naix mask?
tight sluice
ye
it looks like the ti10 immortals were made marketable
which is weird cause a couple days ago they were only giftable
tacit epoch
Looks messy with that set
tight sluice
did you buy it seli or u already had it
vital pollen
yeah looks like shit
tight sluice
lmfa