oh there is even showmatch in between lower final and grand final
#Dota
errant tusk
i think the hour - and + hour change is different in us
coz i remember having argument with someone about it
idk why
worldly hamlet
yeah they do it next week
worldly hamlet
1hour earlier nba games for a week, value!
tight sluice
rocky moon
idk, they gave reso not game soloing hero, sus
ls doesn't look like a good carry against this secret lineup
torn girder
think matu is going home today
burnt basin
self counter pick
wtf
if reso was on qop sure i guess?
but u dont play mid qop vs tiny brood and sniper in the game
esp tiny, its a nightmare to play qop vs him
stiff pebble
Primal beast counters feel so bad
burnt basin
shiould have played primal mid tbh
if eh had the levels adn the space and the items it was kind of free
versed matrix
just in time for g3
torn girder
matu 2 time inc 
stiff pebble
versed matrix
lina 👁️ 👄 👁️
torn girder
mediocre hero 
versed matrix
liquid gaming (throwing)
worldly hamlet
I mean it was like 3 autos away from a won fight for liquid
stiff pebble
worldly hamlet
finally? 😄
versed matrix
russian bias
stiff pebble
versed matrix
was he on digital chaos when they got to the grand final?
worldly hamlet
yeah
rocky moon
russian bias
Reso is Ukrainian
rocky moon
I am
rocky moon
I recall him losing in finals way back, I want him to win
he changed so many teams, move out of cis region to get a chance and now has legit shot at the shield
vital pollen
Insane fight by secret
rocky moon
8 forcestaff/pikes used
vital pollen
guess Reso, get his aegis finally
Same actually. Out of all the remaining players, he deserves it the most imo
rocky moon
vital pollen
Zayac saved that fight
versed matrix
naix 😢
vital pollen
Just running in on his fissure
worldly hamlet
how does reso deserve it the most lmao
vital pollen
To keep the lockdown on Lina
rocky moon
Same actually. Out of all the remaining players, he deserves it the most imo
holy shit, Seli just agreed with me
please pin
worldly hamlet
he literally hasnt been on a relevant team in years
vital pollen
so?
tender fox
Force staffs save lives
vital pollen
everytime reso plays in any pro-team, he immediately becomes the stand-out player for that team, hardcarrying half the games singlehandedly on his back
worldly hamlet
if that was remotely true he wouldnt be stuck on t2 teams for 4years
especially in dota when you have huge shuffles after every ti
vital pollen
yeah, CIS region is known for stability and consistent performances from their teams /s
wide geode
Liquid breaking my heart man
rocky moon
he was in VP for a year, I disagree it was t2 team back then, not their peak of course
vital pollen
dudes been slapping peoples asses every time he shows up on a tournament for a decade
versed matrix
puppey 20 with AC
worldly hamlet
maybe you should check what teams he has played on before vp seli
vital pollen
yeah
worldly hamlet
none of them were cis
vital pollen
iccup wasnt cis team either i suppose
dota existed before 2017 when you started watching
ya know
tender fox
free aghs, secret should take this
tender fox
matu cant hit shit
vital pollen
so?
dude has been active in the proscene
for a decade
and hes been a standout player every time
just cause you wanna cherrypick
a time where he happened to not be in a good team
doesnt invalidate my argument of him being the standout player
ever since iccup times
versed matrix
insane game by secret
torn girder
ye they brought it back
rocky moon
gg
versed matrix
shaker and puppey actually mvp
stiff pebble
Ye
torn girder
i was okay with either of these teams winning
versed matrix
did everyone have a force staff on secret
torn girder
i hope tundra loses
rocky moon
did everyone have a force staff on secret
I think 4 items
wide geode
Matu 😢
versed matrix
maybe such a long break that I can watch g1 and g2
rocky moon
I think it’s typically 1.5-2 hours
rocky moon
Won’t be able to make me some pancakes 😦
torn girder
i hope zayac and reso take it
vital pollen
@worldly hamlet beyond your complete ignorance of his achievements prior to taking a step back in dota in 2018, id argue that him not playing in a high-stakes team for 4years, coming back, getting 3rd in 2 major events immediately after stepping into a new team and now making TI grand finals kinda underlines my point, not refutes it
versed matrix
nisha is insane usually
crystalis usually picked early and deprioritized
so not easy games for him
vital pollen
idk, nisha almost lost them this game imo
versed matrix
true
vital pollen
ye
people shit on him a lot but he manages to make this team work as a unit
despite it being super fresh
torn girder
sure
worldly hamlet
feel free to go fuck yourself for assuming that im clueless because I dont dare to agree with you
torn girder
i am just saying idc about him
versed matrix
ive been watching puppey since ti1
rocky moon
Being a leader is hard
vital pollen
nah, i said youre clueless because i argued that hes been a solid player his entire career, and you then go and pick the one time he didnt actually play any major tournaments. insane that he didnt place well in tournaments he didnt play
rocky moon
One time I wanted Puppey to lose was ti3
vital pollen
and because you said he didnt play on CIS teams for a long time, even though he did
worldly hamlet
bro this one time is literally almost half his career
rocky moon
Because I liked alliance of that time
versed matrix
I disliked alliance
rocky moon
Lone druid ❤️
versed matrix
idk why
torn girder
secret is going to win this tho
rocky moon
Maybe you could move that beef to dms?
torn girder
secret has the lower bracket final buff
distant yoke
Hero reveal 
worldly hamlet
2018-2021, half his career
hes 26, he didnt have a tourney cash for 4 years and his first one goes back like 8-9 years, so yeah almost half sounds decently on point
torn girder
people are just gonna meme this ti tho regardless of who wins
worldly hamlet
yeah its just gonna be ti4 all over
vital pollen
hes 26, he didnt have a tourney cash for 4 years and his first one goes back lik...
http://puu.sh/JqgNS/183bf82a75.pngyeah, thats no tourney cash at all 
torn girder
because ppl heard casters and shit for half the tourny lmao
worldly hamlet
did anything even happen from that fnatic outburst
rocky moon
because ppl heard casters and shit for half the tourny lmao
You mean organisation of the tourney?
worldly hamlet
guess not
vital pollen
people are just gonna meme this ti tho regardless of who wins
yeah, and i think its justified honestly
torn girder
ye
vital pollen
like, i dont think it affected the result much
rocky moon
Idk, quality of games is great
torn girder
sure but that will be constant
vital pollen
but its like
torn girder
dota is dota
rocky moon
I am only sad about booths
rocky moon
They were signature to ti
vital pollen
the environment the first ~2 days of mainstage just wasnt conducive to a tourney with competitive integrity
rocky moon
Maybe ru cast during main stage was good apart from 1st day
worldly hamlet
the worst part is valve just wont say anything and keep chugging along
vital pollen
hearing casters, teams coaches having covid and not being in on voice-chat cause PGL didnt provide a PC for them in their quarantine etc.
worldly hamlet
ty for the 50mil+ from battle pass, see you next year
torn girder
ye very sadge
vital pollen
but its also not a big deal imo, cause its like... booths are overrated anyway, and the only issue was with being able to hear casters. thats just a simple mistake from the audio engineers
shit like this happens, its just unfortunate it happens at the biggest event of the year
torn girder
matu wow player?
worldly hamlet
are booths really that overrated in dota? I dunno
in league I can see it, the game is alot faster, map is smaller
versed matrix
solo and fng retired?
worldly hamlet
its not a huge deal compared to other stuff I guess
rocky moon
I presume it's more comfy for players to not have to wear soundproof headphones and it's also just a signature TI thing
tender fox
cozy for true sight clips also
torn girder
ye
vital pollen
I presume it's more comfy for players to not have to wear soundproof headphones ...
thats like the only thing
whitenoise headphones fucking suck
and they can be quite painful actually
versed matrix
I imagine it sucks even more with glasses
vital pollen
but really all that matters is not hearing casters, cause you can get crowd feedback even in booths
and making sure casters arent picked up through headphones/by the mics is just an audio engineering issue, any semi-competent team should be able to get that sorted
thats why it was an easy fix as well after the concerns were brought up
worldly hamlet
people were too busy praising the rotating stage
distant yoke
matu wow player?
Hope i see him on stormreaver
vital pollen
yeah, cause the people who built a rotating stage are the same who measure and balance the audio in the arena
tender fox
i bet matu is a classic enjoyer
vital pollen
just like the people balancing rogue are the same as the ones designing battle pets
tender fox
i could believe matu playing retail if he shaved
stiff pebble
versed matrix
wow 
game
vital pollen
fucking aui
stiff pebble
It's actually unbelievable this production quality
distant yoke
I dont agree that the tournaments legitimacy is in question because of that tho. Idk why booths are required when no other esport does it
stiff pebble
And just the quality overall
worldly hamlet
isnt ppd an nft pusher thesedays
stiff pebble
No.
torn girder
I dont agree that the tournaments legitimacy is in question because of that tho....
half tourny duration teams could hear what casters were saying lol
"team secret goes for a smoke"
"oh guys i heard theyre going for smoke lol"
rocky moon
It's actually unbelievable this production quality
that cost us raid tier booths
stiff pebble
Have the players been complaining about the booths?
worldly hamlet
yes
distant yoke
Fnatic did
worldly hamlet
or well, not booths but being able to hear casters
was it ldg or who that said they were learning english phrases for rosh and smoke etc
because it was heard that clearly apparently
stiff pebble
torn girder
I am just saying that people will 100% meme on this TI regardless who won
worldly hamlet
yeah EU been highrolling TI for a little bit
worldly hamlet
remember back before OG won twice in a row youd always heard whose region time it was to win TI
tender fox
fucking gaben
vital pollen
it was so fucking accurate as well
the pain of digging a kobold
who breaks your tranquils
or the fucking skeletons not moving when you pull a troll camp
so you cant stack
tender fox
what about sahil
versed matrix
dont skellies spawn only when you hit the big dude?
stiff pebble
Ofc
torn girder
I wonder if nigma will make a comeback next year
tender fox
dont skellies spawn only when you hit the big dude?
think there need to be a corpse and hit big guy
versed matrix
nigma balls
tender fox
ice will troll in his dk jacket 
stiff pebble
worldly hamlet
maybe with a very different roster dk
stiff pebble
Aaaaaaandicefro jk
tender fox
well this showmatch is w/e
stiff pebble
Mmm
tender fox
no fun players but ice and synd
versed matrix
im watching g1 already
stiff pebble
Don't miss it.
rocky moon
what the fuck was that link
stiff pebble
I smell something funny
rocky moon
versed matrix
which one was last year?
rocky moon
dota needs new heroes?
versed matrix
is it marci and primal
vital pollen
just watch
versed matrix
since last ti
stiff pebble
worldly hamlet
hon is famous for insanely broken heroes
versed matrix
you know what I played
vital pollen
hon had some great hero design, and some really dogshit one
vital pollen
but while it was never "officially" confirmed, icefrog worked on hon before he joined valve for dota2
so a lot of heroes were actually
part of his design documents
from early hon days
rocky moon
before dota2 there was dota
vital pollen
and lots of the support heroes in hon were fucking amazing
it was mostly the mid/carry design that was dogshit
vital pollen
nah im psure they had different teams for different roles
or maybe they didnt cause like
hon carries were the same bullshit
as voidspirit/primal
heroes that used their attack damage to scale their spells
so they all did 500+ damage at lvl 6 with skills already
burnt basin
ARE WE DOING IT?
now gotta get over a better carry, a better offlaner, and equal supports
vital pollen
no void spirit this ti
heroes that dont wanna buy bkb
just arent played much atm
its mostly pocket picks
like storm was good as a surprise lastpick a few times
but now people keep it in mind
burnt basin
also the agi carry prio has gone subterranean
versed matrix
then get chainstunned and die
burnt basin
they take too long i guess
vital pollen
that was often the case in TI though
versed matrix
where antimage
vital pollen
i feel
versed matrix
😢
vital pollen
TI has always been a bit of a different carry meta
with ranged agi carries or beefy str cores being the play
versed matrix
I dont remember the last time AM was good
vital pollen
cause its not as volatile in the lane
burnt basin
i mean we ahve seen ams pls voids lunas slark spec
versed matrix
one of my favourite heroes
burnt basin
even ember wasnt it this TI
not that i complain too much but the offlane is too strong rn so melee agi heroes cant
burnt basin
too bad entity went out early
cause arc is HELLA strong right now
im surprised rtz didnt play it tbh
worldly hamlet
he was too busy playing sf every game
tender fox
Isnt nisha one of the best, wouldnt they pick it if it were that good
burnt basin
cause crystallis does not know hwo to make space
hes young though i get that
brood makes picking arc scary though
if he gets behind its over
vital pollen
cause crystallis does not know hwo to make space
thats literally not his role in the team
burnt basin
i was replying to why cant nisha pick arc @vital pollen
burnt basin
lmao
burnt basin
arc is good an i'll leave it at that. u just need to be able to play it
vital pollen
like, if were talking pubs
burnt basin
group stages was like 5/7? and entity had 5 wins 1 loss with it
vital pollen
arc is still a surefire way to rise in rank if you play it well
burnt basin
the hero is good but u need to draft around it
vital pollen
its too obvious of a pick
worldly hamlet
arc is 4-3 is the tournament so no, not really
torn girder
imo picking arc in comp game is like picking meepo
vital pollen
you either pick it early and you get countered
or you leave it open and then it just gets banned
torn girder
it basically has to be an ultimate last pick in a free game
burnt basin
i mean in most drow games
u can easily slot in arc instead
not all
but most since people arent playing her for her passive synergy
torn girder
dunno feel like drow comes online a lot earlier than arc 
when you pick arc you're saying "im going REALLY late"
vital pollen
drow also has much better coverage, utility and flashfarming abiltiies than arc
vital pollen
but then you dont play aghs
which is the heroes only solid build
and even just going maelstrom lance
youre still looking at minute 18-20
burnt basin
same as drow
vital pollen
cause youre still rocking the midas
drows have gotten involved much earlier
crystallis literally tped off lane at minute 7 to contribute to fights last game
burnt basin
arc can get involved early with his ult as well, the utility of the bubble plus the slow is big
vital pollen
arc needs bots, midas, and as per your build, maelstrom+lance
thats ~12k networth
by that point
burnt basin
also by contributing ure talking about a single volley throw. arc can deal less dmg but provide more utility by tping in
vital pollen
you ahve cores running at you with bkbs
buoyant sage
liquid no
burnt basin
you ahve cores running at you with bkbs
and ure facing the same problem that drow does. at that point she has a dragonlance/yasha or a pike
buoyant sage
vital pollen
you play against marci or tusk or primal
whats the arc gonna do when they engage? bubble?
or flux, which does absolutely nothing either?
worldly hamlet
you buyback and go farm some more
vital pollen
most of the value of the hero in early game comes from his area denial, which is completely wasted on a sidelane
but hes super good at controlling both runes at the same time, smth only heroes like puck and ember can do
torn girder
its also a hero that really hates building early bkb lol
which is pretty meta these days
vital pollen
like, same as every hero, i can see it being a solid niche pick
but the way people have been playing the game, especially the offlane
its just way too vulnerable
sf can turn on lane with razes, drow can gust
arc is just food
mid arc can be obnoxious if he gets early aghs, cause fuck that hero when he has it
wide geode
BRR BRR BRR GOD GAMER ALERT! GOD GAMER DETECTED! BRRR
torn girder
At least it was a great game to go out on
distant yoke
it was the last dota pro serie Matu played
He is swapping to the goat game now tho
tender fox
yea goat simulator
buoyant sage
I need to watch the summary
distant yoke
Fits him actually
buoyant sage
what game
distant yoke
With the beard and all
torn girder
WoW
buoyant sage
does he
torn girder
He is a wow enjoyer
tender fox
W 
W
torn girder
Although he prob is a wrath andy
buoyant sage
yeh I mean did he really say that?
distant yoke
Ye
worldly hamlet
distant yoke
In his exit interview
worldly hamlet
refresher for history before finals
tender fox
big pockets
distant yoke
Simple man, enjoys sailing and wow
tender fox
should prolly move to like the coast of spain then
torn girder
Matu gonna chill
tender fox
i feel like finland have 2 weeks of sailing weather
worldly hamlet
I have a feeling he can afford it
buoyant sage
I am glad I got to watch him play all these years thank you Matu (shave that stuff tho)
distant yoke
It gives the seacaptain vibe tho
if he shaved he wouldn't look like a sailor
buoyant sage
agree
tender fox
he gonna start smoking from a pipe
tender fox
ussi taunta or w/e
buoyant sage
maybe DK
worldly hamlet
ret pala
buoyant sage
lmao
torn girder
ret pala is decent guess
worldly hamlet
or warlock
stiff pebble
he gonna start smoking from a pipe
You think he has a rack of pipes like gaben has a rack of knives?
torn girder
Maybe hunter 
tender fox
sure, one for every occassion
distant yoke
Hunter prob
tender fox
he prolly have the obnoxious boat mount
torn girder
There are a lot of popular people who are wow gamers
Meteos and sneaky are wow gamers
Doubelift as well apparently
tender fox
its just been around so long its a high chance ppl tried it out and gamed it
torn girder
Ye
worldly hamlet
I mean even you are playing classic dk or did you quit 😄
torn girder
Nah i am still playing
tender fox
ye classic require real skill like kungen
worldly hamlet
I just play other games when retail is boring, got bored of classic 1month into tbc
torn girder
I prob wouldnt bother if some of my guildies werent playing
But we just run gdkp together and 10 man
Nice to have something to do together outside of retail
Especially with how sleeper retail is rn
worldly hamlet
think my guild has people all over the place because theyre all playing with friends
torn girder
Ye
versed matrix
classic is the most sleeper shit ever
torn girder
It is just chill mode 4Fun game
rocky moon
can we guess what class matu plays?
feral
versed matrix
I find it so boring its not chill
worldly hamlet
doing 18 lost ark raids a week gets boring aswell
versed matrix
to some extent, I find the gameplay to be a lot more engaging
worldly hamlet
its the same thing as classic, just alot more stuff to do on the weekly
torn girder
to some extent, I find the gameplay to be a lot more engaging
The gameplay is very boring but thats why its chill 
2 button assa gaming
Very epic
versed matrix
I quit the night I realized that its hard trying to keep my eyes open raiding at 9 pm
literally sleeper
torn girder
I never played wrath also contributes to it being chill
Actually experiencing the “good wow” for myself
worldly hamlet
ulduar should be decent, well maybe not for retail gamers
trial is then really bad other than last boss
worldly hamlet
wotlk naxx just reminds me of the times my guild failed immortal
tender fox
go to bed
torn girder
I am in bed
tender fox
torn girder
Lmao
Synderen what the fuck
I love slacks he is such a fucking monkey
Lmao ice
vital pollen
lets goo
vital pollen
at least no more sheever
rocky moon
what hero?
vital pollen
muerta
torn girder
Muerta
rocky moon
hm
versed matrix
what is the stealth gun woman from ow
rocky moon
carry because similar to mortred?
versed matrix
is it that
rocky moon
sombra
worldly hamlet
guys what do you think marci was before they reskinned her because of anime
tender fox
sounds like a SA hero
torn girder
Well ye
distant yoke
Mexico
tender fox
actually giving james final 
torn girder
Dunno banning crystalis heroes feels like wasted bans
worldly hamlet
damn james still on panel
torn girder
He is not yatoro or ame
worldly hamlet
redemption story
distant yoke
Dw
versed matrix
fake reveal
distant yoke
5 second clip with no gameplay
distant yoke
It was very short
torn girder
Its shit tier reveal
distant yoke
Blink and you miss it
versed matrix
xd
buoyant sage
torn girder
legit 5 sec clip
versed matrix
dddddddd
torn girder
She had little 1 liner
buoyant sage
valve type beat
distant yoke
Ye catch it on reddit
torn girder
Take it home zayac and reso 
tender fox
not cheering for NA's last hope
torn girder
Who?
worldly hamlet
hes eu import
tender fox
sneyking
torn girder
Who?
worldly hamlet
dk doesnt know sneyking the hon legend smh
torn girder
Ok stop stalling its 5 am
buoyant sage
bruv
worldly hamlet
my dude this isnt gonna end for like 4h atleast 
torn girder
They need to stop stalling with this noob talk get the draft started
distant yoke
So i can see all games
errant tusk
didnt saksa and reso play together in DC team in ti6?
torn girder
Gamers aren’t gonna listen to some psychologist if they get roflstomped
tender fox
i mean 33 is destroying lanes, crystallis will be a non factor
torn girder
Didnt 33 go farm as brood at like min 10 yesterday
Literallt lvl 5
Farming jungle rawdog
Cause he got rinsed in lane like a noob
buoyant sage
I mean they are in grand finals ffor a reason
torn girder
Megamind mandhandled him
tender fox
u think a gamer who sits like this will lose lanes?
buoyant sage
"broke"
worldly hamlet
dk hes israeli you have to support him or they will take your citizenship
tender fox
dk on that kanye anti-semi train
buoyant sage
DK's Romano-Kazakh
worldly hamlet
I know youre a slav, but I assume youve lived in the us whole life
vital pollen
i still remember the times when neta had to drop out of a scrim or match cause the bomb-alarm went off and he had to hide in the bunker with his family
torn girder
Who is gonna take my citizenship what
vital pollen
now hes playing ti finals 
torn girder
I don’t have US citizenship
worldly hamlet
oh
tight sluice
u think a gamer who sits like this will lose lanes?
vital pollen
reso TI win 
torn girder
They can take cam off reso now
Wtf was that extended cam
Solid like 3 mins just on reso
versed matrix
I cant even sit like that, calves and hamstrings too big
vital pollen
also crazy how long heen has been coaching, actually
worldly hamlet
you can take a 15min nap dk before draft is over
vital pollen
from playing with the first korean team at TI back then in MVP
to coaching secret for like
7 years now or smth
tender fox
nah wasa sunbhie in the start
tender fox
and ye heen coached kky team to ti win
stiff pebble
vital pollen
ye
tight sluice
CEBBB
errant tusk
worldly hamlet
marci aswell
torn girder
worldly hamlet
hehe
buoyant sage
torn girder
1-0 go next
vital pollen
nah
vital pollen
lesh+ench still in pool
errant tusk
vital pollen
ye
worldly hamlet
french bias smh
errant tusk
ceb is a legend
buoyant sage
french bias smh
rocky moon
I am here to see Reso win
vital pollen
if tundra doesnt have a noticeable advantage by minute 15 or so
theyre gonna struggle
versed matrix
🥐
vital pollen
where?
rocky moon
did he touch you?
errant tusk
french bias smh
vital pollen
nice
lorentz and me
combining
for the perfect question
dadsen shook his hand and hasnt washed it since
versed matrix
🥖
buoyant sage
in Paris, when I was in shoutcaster team back then, I played with him 2 games too like he doesnt STOP talking in game
leads everything
vital pollen
oh no i meant where did i... nvm
rocky moon
dadsen shook his hand and hasnt washed it since
that was my second question
buoyant sage
dudes a legend
rocky moon
did he wash that part of the body since
torn girder
Reso and Zayac must win
torn girder
Ye
worldly hamlet
then puppey kicks them after ti 
vital pollen
so tusk mid
torn girder
Puppey should retirement home after this one
vital pollen
?
worldly hamlet
like aui got kicked from eg when they won
torn girder
If he doesn’t may end up like kuro
vital pollen
i wouldnt be surprised if he calls it
torn girder
Kuroky is deadge
vital pollen
if he wins this one
versed matrix
sorry, bank account blocked, cant pay you your prize pool cut
errant tusk
knowing tundra that could even be hoodwink mid
vital pollen
win first TI and last TI he played
vital pollen
knowing tundra that could even be hoodwink mid
tru
vital pollen
but im not sure if hood plays well into lesh
torn girder
Does reso even play enigma
errant tusk
no idea
torn girder
This is monka
vital pollen
man has a few standout heroes but like
you can give him any hero and he'll make it work
worldly hamlet
their draft seems alot better, just cant completely shit laning phase
vital pollen
he typically plays a more aggressive style afaik
imo thats the only way to play enigma with success atm
versed matrix
naga into lesh
vital pollen
if youre just sitting in the back waiting for a blink blackhole
versed matrix
and lich and tony
vital pollen
inb4 support naga
torn girder
They must be valuing song like
Uber high
But idk
Both cores are just gonna buy bkb
versed matrix
secret draft looks more straight forward
rocky moon
what about dawnbreaker for left?
vital pollen
rip old naga aghs
versed matrix
im not really into these weird tundra drafts
torn girder
Perhaps
torn girder
Oh alright they just ban drow anyway
vital pollen
pl lets go
tender fox
has cryst played pudge
vital pollen
not hard to play
vital pollen
ye
torn girder
Dont need to be hook god x to play pudge core rn lol
tender fox
i mean its grand final and u play something for hte first time this tourney
vital pollen
well hes obviously practices it in scrims or whatever
theres no hero you actually never played
rocky moon
daaang boys, we got to witness one of the best time of the year yet again
you just wait until I arrive in EU and touch you ever....
vital pollen
but htis is an easy pudge game
with lich/enigma
wraith pact+frostshield+flesh heap
gonna take 0 damage from naga
buoyant sage
Idk what you guys have against Crystallis, but dude takes a missile every time he appears on stream
I know hes not the flashiest player but
thats a bit too much isnt it
vital pollen
i think he has some heroes he needs to get better on like morph
vital pollen
but dudes been playing very well
just dont give him a hard carry in a solo-core game
cause thats not what secret had success with
torn girder
Ye you should never put all your eggs in the crysatlis basket
vital pollen
reso/nisha are the carries
torn girder
Is all i’ll say
buoyant sage
I get it
vital pollen
crystallis plays the same role that matu played for miracle or fear for sumail
and both those teams won TI doing so
torn girder
Just based on draft secret should win this
Only thing i worry about is reso is not on a reso hero
versed matrix
5 games pls
buoyant sage
errant tusk
he fucked over his lane by taking hook lvl 1 
buoyant sage
Moo-lah
rocky moon
Did they remove poor man shield from neutral items? Think it was moved there from purchasable
buoyant sage
it was too strong 
tight sluice
I miss aquila
although it's still a neutral
used to be so good to fix mana issues with
versed matrix
you get falcon blade now
buoyant sage
you can't hide from the tide 
tender fox
did he try to shard himself up or
rocky moon
He tried to push himself uphill I think
tender fox
tusk ice shards
tender fox
was a weird one otherwise
torn girder
Holy fuck reso too based
tight sluice
you get falcon blade now
not the same, and also falcon blade is alot more expensive
torn girder
Ye the tusk tried to shove himself uphill
rocky moon
Holy fuck reso too based
You watching eu or ru cast?
buoyant sage
I played Hoodwink vs Leshrac quite some time these days, it's PAINFUL
nothing can stop that fucking disco radio poney
rocky moon
buoyant sage
torn girder
Man they actually just dgaf about crystalis getting abused
Let that boy sit on an island
rocky moon
dotka type beat
drink vodka, win dotka
versed matrix
0 impact pudge 😿
buoyant sage
tundra has insane burst but secret has insane teamfight too
tender fox
what is this double cloak tide gaming
buoyant sage
idk
vital pollen
this is starting to feel like an LGD game
some solo pickoffs for tundra
with everybody on secret split and farming
buoyant sage
we need crystallis to hook 33
and then 33 ravage entire secret team
just for the show
just once please
vital pollen
tender fox
he just lost lane hard and then got bullied
vital pollen
cuz pudge doesnt really need a lot
tender fox
they even triple tpd bot for him some times
versed matrix
when he gets fat they dont have damage vs pudge
vital pollen
theyll always be able to kill of 1 hero
with tusk+sharpshooter etc.
biggest issue is the naga being uncontested for like 10minutes now
vital pollen
secret aint even trying
buoyant sage
Idk about the vanguard like cant you go straight phase boots+bracer+ agha on pudge these days?
vital pollen
theyre just farming and reacting atm
tender fox
Idk about the vanguard like cant you go straight phase boots+bracer+ agha on pud...
he just had to get something to jungle
vital pollen
nah, pudge is vulnerable to pyhsical dmg
versed matrix
pudge vs naga kinda favors pudge, no?
buoyant sage
yeh like flesh heap is omega broken op
errant tusk
it would need to get very late
where he gets aghs
and stuff
then he's allright
aghs shiva
versed matrix
isnt aghs first item pudge builds
vital pollen
before he kills illusions
rocky moon
Naga is so annoying
tender fox
tusk need his blink
vital pollen
tiny blink, gg
tender fox
he keeps just getting stuck
errant tusk
i think secret thinks they have lategame
and just dont care
and so does tundra?
im not sure
vital pollen
i think they do
errant tusk
coz that lesh lategame sounds scary
vital pollen
the naga pick is starving the tusk too much
buoyant sage
they need force staves
tender fox
lesh tankiness is stupid
vital pollen
tide was sitting bot for 10 minutes, naga was farming jungle, tusk didnt really get anything farmed
well, if you have 6 naga illusions on the lesh with pulse nova+bloodstone active, hes not gonna lose health 😄
tender fox
snowball to remove lich ult is pog