Dota

[vital pollen]

then again, idk if you can use witchbane on euls/ww

bro

thsi enigma

is so fucking good

[worldly hamlet]

more bbs win

[errant tusk]

rosh just spawned

well thats expected outcome

they had bbs

used bbs

rosh

[buoyant sage]

lmao micke was stun for a CENTURY, telekinesis + stolen lesh stun by rubick

[rocky moon]

buyback war

[buoyant sage]

jesus

[vital pollen]

ye

[rocky moon]

[vital pollen]

i dont think

liquid got this tho

unless TA feeds now

[worldly hamlet]

dont they just get megas

now

[vital pollen]

but they can hold hg

[worldly hamlet]

before they even respawn

[vital pollen]

dont think so

maybe

lesh 25

ye, i didnt see lanes

i only saw no creeps mid/bot

[errant tusk]

ta can win it still

[vital pollen]

ye

but man this enigma

the moment zai uses swashbuckle

he goes in to blackhole

his awareness is sick

who even got the aghs that zai stole?

naix?

or did he use himself

[buoyant sage]

used it

[vital pollen]

kk

liquid just gonna stall

until buybacks are back

choke out map

get t5 items

while TA cant get any

[worldly hamlet]

this game is clown fiesta even for liquid standards

[errant tusk]

did liquid just lose

[vital pollen]

nah

takes them like a minute

[errant tusk]

idk

[vital pollen]

to get across the map

they have 20secs

maybe

to hit throne

[rocky moon]

throwfiesta

I love this

[vital pollen]

and theres glyph up

and lesh can hold

[tender fox]

micke cna just push bot

why th efuck is he going in

[errant tusk]

ye its literally over

[vital pollen]

so err

why

[tender fox]

micke could literally force back 2-3 heroes bot

[vital pollen]

did they just commit

[worldly hamlet]

liquid are so dumb

[vital pollen]

in mid

[worldly hamlet]

why force the fight

[vital pollen]

for the creepwave?

just typical liquid play

cant win endgame

why

do they even force the issue

with megas

lmao

[errant tusk]

idk

[vital pollen]

just wait for buybacks

[wide geode]

Un-be-fucking-leavable voice line when??

[vital pollen]

get t5s

[rocky moon]

I think you could ask that about 20 moves from each team this game

[vital pollen]

yeah

but liquid is just

beyond

anything ive ever seen

when it comes to bad lategame decisions

doubt any team has lost even half as many games with megacreeps on their side, as liquid did

lmao

weatherman purge

i just dont understand why lesh didnt creepskip in TA base, they had a ward there

and tiny can clean an entire wave with aghs from the safety of the trees

and then TA has no creeps to finish the game

instead they 2v5man fight mid

but ig its just hindsight, hard to make such a call in game

[wide geode]

Gyro pickers. Cringe.

[buoyant sage]

put some respect on the chopper pilot

marci/disru lmao

wanna flee away?

[vital pollen]

puck into disruptor

why does matu not have a stick yet

4minutes into game

against tide/raptor

[errant tusk]

wtf is this game

lmao

[vital pollen]

i dont understand

this gyro skillbuild

[buoyant sage]

[vital pollen]

whatsoever

[errant tusk]

why

he knew they were gonna be in his face

so maxing q is good

[vital pollen]

ehh

but they were teh ones initiating all the time

was always marci going in

then tusk snowballs to counter it

[errant tusk]

even marci throwing in the guy

and you press q

seems fine

[vital pollen]

then he snowballs

and you do no damage

and now hes lv5

10minutes in

with lv1 flak

like, i can understand it for like

first 3 levels maybe

but you know once brood hits 6

that skill is useless

like, hes doing fine, but idk if i wouldve commited that hard to it

[buoyant sage]

[tender fox]

Ah they actually release 2nd part of BP after ti so they can take all

[tight sluice]

when are collector cache usually released?

or is there even going to be one with this BP

PUCK XD

[errant tusk]

puck

[rocky moon]

holy, that was amazing

[errant tusk]

enigma 5

[tender fox]

Did enigma just pulse so he didnt have mana for bh

[errant tusk]

possibly

[tender fox]

Oh well winning anyway

[errant tusk]

who cares

that ember didnt do anything

[buoyant sage]

brood is so toxic

[distant yoke]

gyro 100% winrate destroyed

[buoyant sage]

fuck that hero

[rocky moon]

2 maps, 2 good games

pog series already

[tender fox]

Oh pango mid

[vital pollen]

ah yes, leshrac once again

maybe just ban the fucking hero

leshrac the razor of this TI

[errant tusk]

idk why teams never go for upgraded urn

vs lesh

[rocky moon]

I've barely seen NS if at all during main stage, is he not good? Certainly recall him being picked during group stage

[vital pollen]

dumbass broken hero

or rather

[versed matrix]

naix dead every fight

[vital pollen]

its noit even the hero

its just

bloodstone being dumb

[tight sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/disco-gif-8094494

[vital pollen]

idk why this item restores mana

like

hero is 30% hp/mana

waits for bloodstone to be back

oh look hero full mana gain

but yeah i dont get why no one is buying vessel

vs lesh

[versed matrix]

liquid

[vital pollen]

im guessing they think

pudge aghs is enough heal reduction

[distant yoke]

matu is just throwing

doing nothing this game

[vital pollen]

wasnt his fault

he wanted to infest

and insania just TPs out

with full hp/mana

matu ran to him to infest but was too slow

[versed matrix]

naix lowest hero damage

sheesh

[vital pollen]

idk why youd ever tp out

in a situation like that

as pos5

[distant yoke]

ye i mean matu is just a creep

this fight

game

idk why he tries to save a pos 5 cm

[versed matrix]

xd

[distant yoke]

what are they doing

[errant tusk]

he tried taking gem

and got hooked

[vital pollen]

he didnt

he wanted to infest

[errant tusk]

classic bait someone yelling gem

or that

[vital pollen]

to get out of the fight

cause they went on him

if insania doesnt tp out they win that fight btw

[distant yoke]

game is over

[versed matrix]

naix loses 1v1 vs marci at this point

[rocky moon]

I’d rather watch TA than liquid further on

[errant tusk]

ye looks over

was a good one

and as we say

its over

they get a good fight

[versed matrix]

xdd

counter throw

[tight sluice]

VERY COOL HERO

[vital pollen]

nah

TA will throw

[versed matrix]

liquid washed

[vital pollen]

okay

that ember buyback

saved the fight

[versed matrix]

run it down

[errant tusk]

this is actually

best series

[vital pollen]

but yeah idk

[errant tusk]

ever

lmao

[vital pollen]

its just

throws after throws

[errant tusk]

[rocky moon]

what is this series

love doto like this one

[vital pollen]

lets chase into fountain

in elimination game

with 4 buybacks on cd

[errant tusk]

LOL

[dull jay]

holy shit

[tender fox]

Wtf

[errant tusk]

LMAO

[distant yoke]

holy fuck

[vital pollen]

deserved loss

[buoyant sage]

wah

[tacit epoch]

Wow what a game

[buoyant sage]

insane

[vital pollen]

super entertaining game but kinda bad dota

[buoyant sage]

nice run from SA

[versed matrix]

2 lcq teams in top 4

xdd

[tacit epoch]

This is the highest placement for SA in TI?

[errant tusk]

ye

[tacit epoch]

Nice, next year hopefully SA comes even stronger

Ngl I was overwhelmed watching the fountain teamfight

Like what was going on there

[rocky moon]

well now I am rooting for Puppey to win it all

and Reso

[tender fox]

1 week break

[tacit epoch]

At least there's prepatch to kill time

[vital pollen]

nice series

shouldve been easy 2-0 tho

for liquid

after throwing game1 like 5times

to the point where they lose

this time they only threw 4times

and win

[versed matrix]

in the end naix had enough juice to 1v1 pudge

[tacit epoch]

I liked how when matu died he lacked 100gold for bb but an assist on kill gave him enough to return

[errant tusk]

pango had 1 hp in that bhole

singular health point

[errant tusk]

@vital pollen

time to abuse

while its op

[buoyant sage]

[errant tusk]

what else am i supposed ot play

i play mk

i lose 100% of the games

hero isnt that good

[buoyant sage]

MK good

MK fun

[errant tusk]

ye i like mk

but its just.. idk not that good

you're always better off just playing ursa

rather than mk

[buoyant sage]

currently yeh but I hate playing against morphling

[errant tusk]

ye its nice

but when you play into farmed ursa as morph or farmed slark / pudge

or someone picks aa

you're fucked

[versed matrix]

BC vs LGD g1 pretty hyep

[buoyant sage]

I always bring my spirit vessel too

[versed matrix]

watching the matches I missed today

I want to reinstall dota again

[errant tusk]

i feel like people hate building vessel

when its such a good item idk

[buoyant sage]

I buy almost every game

[errant tusk]

but maybe people are scared they invest 4k gold or w/e it costs and dont get any stacks

[buoyant sage]

one of my most bought item

[errant tusk]

coz you're kjinda investing a lot

[buoyant sage]

as main pos 4

[errant tusk]

such a good item in this meta it feels like

[buoyant sage]

yeh it costs

crazy yes

[errant tusk]

whenever you play into pudg

pudge core*

and you dont build vessel

[buoyant sage]

I got value out of it almost every game

[errant tusk]

you are inting imo

unless you have ursa maybe

that can just kill the guy

[buoyant sage]

exactly, esp when shits like morph, leshrac, necro are around

[errant tusk]

ursa is actually such a well made hero when you think about it

he has defensive shard and defensive ult

and his w and passive synergize incredibly well

[distant yoke]

Resist

[errant tusk]

and he even got buffed with q applying swipe stacks

like wtf

[versed matrix]

ye, I havent played in a long long time

I resisted last time

[errant tusk]

unlike troll which you just let jesus take the wheel on ult

[distant yoke]

You get flamed during TI

[errant tusk]

and pray you dont get trolled

[buoyant sage]

lmao

[distant yoke]

Cus ppl that play the game all the time, hate when noobs come back to the game because of TI hype

Ruining their pubs

[buoyant sage]

You get flamed*

fixed

[distant yoke]

Well its typically even worse during ti

[errant tusk]

you get flamed no matter what

so its ok

its moba afterall

[distant yoke]

I have come back to the game a few times during TI and its painfully obvious with dotabuff etc

[errant tusk]

it cant be me that lost that game

its team

[distant yoke]

So ppl call you tourist and shit

[buoyant sage]

pretty much in every online multiplayer games

you get flamed for missing a kick in a +15

so

[versed matrix]

its off putting because if its not your main game youre kinda inting

at least I feel I cant put my full attention

[distant yoke]

Ye there is just a lot of momentum in playing Dota

[versed matrix]

then its not worth

I dont like half assing its either all or nothing

[tight sluice]

it doesn't take that long to get back into it

and if people flame you, just flame them back or mute

if you get flamed in spanish then unluck

[versed matrix]

russian most likely

[distant yoke]

brits are actually ruthless online btw

not sure if you've noticed

russians will prob say some very toxic things in russian

but brits will break you down, your self worth and sound intelligent doing it

[errant tusk]

brits intelligent

good one

they're just gonna call you some weird word like nonce while eating a SPOTTED DICK

[distant yoke]

idk i have questioned my lifes decisions

after being flamed by a brit in dota

there are some proper 3heads, but they use their superior knowledge of english to push you down

[vital pollen]

No ti to wake up to

[buoyant sage]

[versed matrix]

watching that grubby s4 razor

[tight sluice]

I felt the same thing brother

this break is weird

[tacit epoch]

Would've sucked to have finals during working hours tho

[tight sluice]

well

I'm not gonna see any of the games anyway

cause they're so early in the morning for me

I'll see finals prob

[tight sluice]

@torn girder bro how do I send a replay do I just give match ID?

[torn girder]

Ye pretty much easiest way

[tight sluice]

dunno if you have time but

6820886816

I lost this game but I'm pretty sure I should've won

[torn girder]

Im in college rn but I can watch later when im home

I am only 4k though just saying

I am also total shit at the game

[tight sluice]

ye well still better than 1k

but I have a good idea of what went wrong

I just wanted some tips

[torn girder]

Is it a pos 2 game?

[tight sluice]

ye

TA

actually

[torn girder]

Alright

Ill watch later as long as I don’t forget

[tight sluice]

alright

[torn girder]

@tight sluice do you know how to manipulate creep positioning with creep aggro

nvm you do you just dont do it nearly as much

as you should

[buoyant sage]

bruv

just won that

1h15 game 2 days ago too

[torn girder]

you play way too pussy against this SF hataro

your character counters his

also im not sure what the pick order was but if you picked TA into ogre dazzle you are a brave fella

you also missed out on a pretty good stick/wand game

basically every hero on enemy team spams spells

holy fuck what did that SF just do LMAO

ahahaha

goes and steals 2 bounties then walks back to mid through your fucking tower and entire lane

[vital pollen]

sounds like a champ

establishing dominance

[torn girder]

this move you did at level 9 is kinda sus

making that kind of rotation where you just run to top to kill an ogre isn't usually a TA thing to do lol

at that point of the game you are in hyper farm mode

shove wave, go kill ancients and medium camp

ye you definitely have a very different understanding of TA

never seen a TA participate in this many fights before having deso lmao

alright its 18 mins in and this is the first time you've hit an ancient camp as TA that is insanity

[fast marsh]

@distant yoke do you play dota?

[torn girder]

alright up until like minute 23/24 you were doing a pretty decent job at not griefing your spectre's game

and then you tp'd bot on a wave he was supposed to get then walked back into the triangle and just yoinked his camp

[tight sluice]

my camp

[buoyant sage]

Hataro's Fate: road to 2k

new show on netflix

[tight sluice]

DK is reviewing a replay

I linked

[fast marsh]

gogo coaching mode

ingame

stream it

[buoyant sage]

I know, and I think it's one of the best way to improve

[torn girder]

props for buying dust my man but

cosmetic dragon lance is no good

[tight sluice]

I sold it

for null

[torn girder]

its like minute 30

[tight sluice]

eventually I will sell it

[torn girder]

just give the dust to supps

and you use item lmao

[tight sluice]

lmfao

[torn girder]

early on its ight to have a dust as a core but you have cosmetic net worth in your backpack

[buoyant sage]

esp on lanaya

[torn girder]

but ye you have a misunderstanding of how TA is meant to be played early on

[tight sluice]

well

[torn girder]

you arent like ember spirit where you go get a rune and run top

once you get your treads you just shove mid hit camps shove mid hit camps

this team actually griefed and gave you a super free game lol but you kinda like

ran top killed an ogre

fucked around a bit

cleared mid a couple more time sthen sat in river contemplating if you should run top

you could have had like all of your items several minutes earlier than you did which would have just made for better timings in the game

your first aegis is basically just griefed away cause both supps are tanky enough that they can actually just 2v1 you under turret

[vital pollen]

you shouldnt fight as TA unless you get ganked, not until you get lance+deso

TAs power comes from her insane farming speed, so that when the enemy team is dealing with your team 5v4 they think they have a shot, and then they suddenly realize that you have 5k networth on their carry after 20minutes

[torn girder]

TA is really broken in your mmr to just stomp games with because enemies don't really fuck with you as hard as they can

and you have psi blades which is just a natural farming tool

so you just farm like way fucking faster than anyone and shit stomp the enemies until they actually catchup

except there was no real "catch up" for the enemies this game cause you were never actually as severely ahead as you should have been

like it becomes apparent when the enemy SF claps your carry and supps cheeks up top

and then you almost get your cheeks clapped

ye

this death at like 44 is really bad too lol

your slardar and spectre make a great move onto the sf cutting waves

and you for some reason are wandering around in enemy bot jungle

[tight sluice]

[torn girder]

ye, you lost this cause you didn't utilize your hero the way its meant to be

its not your job to make moves early as this hero

like i said you hit ancients for the first time at 18 minutes lol

once you get treads and traps you should be looking to farm ancients on cd, also should ask your supp to stack them if possible, no big deal if they dont cause its low mmr pub game but something to consider

you let the SF bully you the fuck around the first few waves for no real reason

[tight sluice]

I think thats cause I fucked uop

and skilled psi first

cause u saw level 1 he almost cheesed me with raze

[torn girder]

wait wait

[tight sluice]

normally I skill q first

in that matchup

[torn girder]

why are you late game fighting with bkb in your backpack LMAO

with no aegis

[tender fox]

no damage

duh

[tight sluice]

unironically what mizu said

[torn girder]

bruh

you do no damage when dead

[tight sluice]

tbh

mkb was useless

or didnt feel like the right item for how I shouldve played the fights out

[torn girder]

i mean once the PL got items it was a bit of a gg

but ye

main point is dont play TA like puck or ember

shes not a shit stirrer hero

you could have had a chasm between you and their cores in net worth

and it would have basically been impossible to fight into you with bkb

[tight sluice]

so

you're saying just go ancients once I get treads

[torn girder]

once you get treads and are like lvl 6/7 you can just shove waves and kill triangle camps ye

shes a really good ancients farmer

especially with traps

once you have dlance and deso you can start to be more aggressive and make moves with your 3/4/5

rosh is really important on her as well

you can look for opportunities to take it once you have deso

you had a slardar that game too so liek

you should have been fiending for rosh

[tight sluice]

I did ping it at some point

pinged his ult and meld

[torn girder]

ye thats good

also did you pick TA after they picked dazzle pl and ogre

[tight sluice]

ye I think so

sf was lastpick

[torn girder]

ye youre a psycho lol

[tight sluice]

pl sucks

the other two not too bad

[torn girder]

???

you know he removes 2 layers of refraction per hit

[tight sluice]

no I didnt lol

[torn girder]

ye diffusal counts as 1 hit

also ogre and dazzle both aids your refraction too + dazzle grave is giga annoying to play vs

even wr is pretty cringe

[tight sluice]

TBH

I normally farm more than I did that game

I feel

pressured to actually fight early

cause I'm scared the game will be out of control by the time I can farm my items

but it might even be like you said I'm not even doing it early enough

on another note

why do 1k players love legion so much'

[tender fox]

cus u get +damage

[torn girder]

Yea

More damage more carry

Plus she has a passive that makes it easy to just go afk jungle lol

[tight sluice]

XD

true

[vital pollen]

You don't buy mkb against evasion heroes. You buy blood thorn

Can also get hex if you struggle with lock down

Or abyssal

[tight sluice]

why bloodthorn?

and my thoughts were, based on the state of the game I shouldn'

even be hitting their cores

but why bloodthorn vs mkb

[torn girder]

bloodthorn gives truestrike

[stiff pebble]

Fun noise too.

[torn girder]

just had a nice little drow game first time playing in like months

wait wtf did rank recalibrate i didnt even realize

[tacit epoch]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FMdO5C4gm6s

The Finnish casting so hype

[errant tusk]

@vital pollen

[buoyant sage]

[errant tusk]

wasnt responding

to game invite

but we played

i didnt do anything

won

i just didnt grief and troll so we won

[stiff pebble]

[buoyant sage]

[errant tusk]

[tight sluice]

I love when supports steal your runes

Mid is despair sometimes

Still not as bad as safelane

What are some good mid picks besides ember into naga, or illusion heroes in general?

I need something else cause ember can have some really unplayable mid matchups

[vital pollen]

lion

lion shard completely destroys naga

[buoyant sage]

snapfire lil shredder build

[tight sluice]

I'm never picking ember blind again mf picked tinker and then my enigma fed tinker lvl 1 over bounty rune

I wanted to hang myself

Why do people feed over the bounty runes?

I find if I dont go help them they just int for it. It doesnt seem worth it to me to die for the rune

I get yelled at if I dont come to the runes to help and just want to block midwave.

[torn girder]

Doing a full block from start to finish is kinda archaic

[tight sluice]

Still seems dumb to walk into 3 or 4 people and feed for a bounty.

Like even as safelane I'll just give up bounty if it means I'm gonna die for it

Or really if I have to waste regen to get bounty its kinda an L

[vital pollen]

the "meta" around bounties atm is that 4people run towards 1 jungle bounty, intending to win a 4v4 fight, while one hero goes for the other jungle

and then you either brawl or hope to not get ganked 4v1

[torn girder]

Going even or more in bounties is worth the loss of a tango or 2 lol

I think at least

As a mid for example it speeds up your bottle

Not having a bottle for water rune spawn is really sad

In the side lanes it can speed your brown boots for example which can amount to a kill

[tight sluice]

Can I say. I hate water runes

[tender fox]

why

[tight sluice]

They bail out people with bad laning

[tender fox]

no i mean like why did u think anyone asked

[tight sluice]

Ita free regen

Fuck off mizu

[torn girder]

I dont really like water runes either

[tight sluice]

@torn girder maybe I'll just try going out and securing runes first Instead of full blocking.

I find fullblock let's me get a good first wave position and an easy level 2.

But maybe runes more important + it saves team from tilt

[torn girder]

Ye

Also have to like use your brain and shit and realize that if they have some really op lvl 1 heroes you probably shouldn’t go too far

Or too risky

[vital pollen]

As mid 100%

You wanna get first blood if possible

So you go with team toward bounty

Then grab the one in river and go to block, or return to Lane before that if your team has both bounties covered

[torn girder]

But ye you should try to assess how likely you are to die if you go really aggro

If they have some supports like fuckin

Lich marcy

And some stun pos 3

You probably dont wanna overextend lmao

In general tho if you are just sitting between your t3 and t2 afk waiting for minions youre doing it wrong

Full creep block atm isn’t a real thing

[burnt basin]

yo

anyone here

should log in dota

they givin out free arcanas

and a battle pass

if uve played 10 games in BP season

[stiff pebble]

[burnt basin]

am i the only one sussed out by that?

like, when will the other shoe drop

and what is it gonna be

[vital pollen]

https://twitter.com/Tyler_McV/status/1585248006982762496?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1585248006982762496|twgr^adfcc0c76102dc947f22a87766a7e35a7f52d8ba|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fydy2ba%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dtrue

Tyler McVicker (@Tyler_McV)

Valve Software's indev game, NEON PRIME, is likely a DOTA-adjacent Sci-Fi game, made by ICEFROG, taking place in other dementions, such as the Continuum or the Moons of Ultoria. It is likely NOT an FPS, and obviously, unrelated to Half-Life: Citadel, Valve's other indev game.

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[stiff pebble]

Dementions?

[burnt basin]

i saw that

i dno

sus all around

[tight sluice]

@stiff pebble hmmm interesting

What arcana would I want

[errant tusk]

i think sf/lina/jugg/mk are from shop

[tight sluice]

(Drow and Qop you fucking animals put them in the candy shop)

[stiff pebble]

Earth shaker is pretty nice

But I also don't know what is available

[errant tusk]

can you get es?

[tight sluice]

No

[errant tusk]

dont think you can get es/qop/wr

they were from some compendium x years ago

[stiff pebble]

So what all is available?

[tight sluice]

Only the pre battlepass arcana

[stiff pebble]

Pictures!!

[errant tusk]

jugg sf mk lina

that im pretty sure is in shop

ogre maybe

zeus maybe?

[tight sluice]

@stiff pebble SF, PA, JUGG, LINA, MK, CM, RUBICK, OGRE

I dunno which I'd get. Probably jugg or MK cause lina and SF are ass

[errant tusk]

mk is nice

but tbh for mk you rly want that staff that used to cost a lot

[stiff pebble]

The PA weapons are pretty nice

[errant tusk]

coz it changes your ult

dont rmemeber name

used to be like 80$

[stiff pebble]

Truuu

Ye

[tight sluice]

Yeah except getting the PA upgrade is a PITA

[stiff pebble]

Yewell

The Juggernaut arcana is pretty good

[tacit epoch]

Does tb arcana still get changes by inscribed gems?

[errant tusk]

yes

[tacit epoch]

Might be worth considering that one

[stiff pebble]

I mean if you play Rubick...

That's kind of a no-brainer

[burnt basin]

the arcanas available are lina,cm,lc,pudge,techies,sf,pa,mk,jug,rubick,tb,zeus,ogre

did i forget any?

[tight sluice]

Oh yeah TB

TB arcana is bice

[errant tusk]

probably did but that list looks right

hard to remember everything

[burnt basin]

i think its those

cant think of another

[stiff pebble]

This is why I wanted pictures

[errant tusk]

probably can 'just' go on steam market

and filter by arcana

no?

[stiff pebble]

Pffft

[errant tusk]

the site doesnt load

for steammarket

no counterplay

[tacit epoch]

Cannot seem to log into dota 2 after update as well

[stiff pebble]

Either way the entire juggernaut arcana is pretty good

[burnt basin]

if u log inthe game

u can see the ful list

and u can demo them

[errant tusk]

wisp i think too

actually

[burnt basin]

no

[errant tusk]

rly?

wasnt wisp in shop

[burnt basin]

wisp was the first arcana locked behind BP

no

[errant tusk]

ah

fair

wasnt sure

[burnt basin]

its the only arcana i dont have

cause fuck that

lmao

[errant tusk]

i didnt even play back when 'good' bps were coming out

like one with wk/wr

i got only spectre arcana from bps

[burnt basin]

wk wr qop

was worth

even if in reality it actually cost more than the void one now

i mean i have level 30 WR and level 24 qop 😛

there was no way i wasnt getting that

[errant tusk]

i didnt even buy this battle pass not evne level 1

[burnt basin]

btw

id stay out of pubs for the next 10 days

gonna be full of pudges

[errant tusk]

naa think its ok

[burnt basin]

it also gives a free battle pass

[errant tusk]

pudge is always top picked no matter what

ah the caverners

i mostly 5 stack premade

[tight sluice]

You know what

I am mega copium that this means removed arcana are coming in p2

I have a theory.

There are candy shop upgrades. The last one you get at 609 BP.

After that it's only candy sacks.

I bet u have to get to that BP level and then you unlock the ability to get arcana with the candy.

Then you'll have to trade inna rare candy for arcana

[errant tusk]

i mean im in boomer/hot take camp

apparently not that hot take

but yea i think all arcanas should be in shop for between 30-40 bucks

we talked about it here already pretty sure

[buoyant sage]

we can select any arcana we want? I mean one

[errant tusk]

and if not i talked about it on other discord multiple times even

[tight sluice]

This isnt a hottake I'm on the premium level of copium sebek

[errant tusk]

only shop ones @buoyant sage

so not wr or qop

[buoyant sage]

fuuuuuuuck

[errant tusk]

or spectre

[buoyant sage]

no WR

[tight sluice]

Wait for p2 dadsen

It's coming

[errant tusk]

its funny i have 2 friends that are diehard wr spammers

[tight sluice]

[errant tusk]

and they both have fking

orange wr

that shit is hard

and they didnt do any abuse shit

they just played a fuckton of games

[buoyant sage]

jeez

[tight sluice]

I just want drow and qop

[burnt basin]

How to abuse. Spill

[tight sluice]

What one do I get

[errant tusk]

im not entirely sure but there is always poeple that have different arcana styles 1 day after its released

[tacit epoch]

Mk, rubick, jugg seem like the most valuable ones

[errant tusk]

so there is some abuse stuff

either people queue against each other at like 3 am on bad realms and snipe each other

and then 1 guy just farms stuff

or turbo/private lobbies maybe?

not sure what people do rly

[tight sluice]

Gonna get jugg or MK

[errant tusk]

and some of them sound absurdly hard to get

like x hundred thousand damage from x abilityh

sounds hard to get

unless it would be zeus ult

[tight sluice]

Oh yeah Zeus

FUCK

WHAT ARCANA

[errant tusk]

mk coz monke

[vital pollen]

http://puu.sh/JpZ97/ca14fffa54.jpg

[tight sluice]

Mk arcana is so nice mk just hard af hero to play

[tacit epoch]

took jugg

[tight sluice]

How do you get the red version of jugg?

Anyone know

[tacit epoch]

so what's the benefit of this dota+?

[tight sluice]

Everything

Blocking people

Avoid list bis

[errant tusk]

i think he's my 2nd most played hero behind morph

he's probably most flexible carry

can actually go so many diff builds

every game i feel like i could've done diff items

[tight sluice]

Really I find mk to be so limited and bit that good rn. Like he doesnt scale so well compared to other carries

[errant tusk]

i feel like ursa is always better than mk now on pos 1

[tight sluice]

Ye ursa slaps

[stiff pebble]

Real time damage breakdown, things like that

[errant tusk]

i think best thing of dota+ is part that it shows when to stack a camp

and avoid list if you solo q enjoyer ye

[stiff pebble]

Oh right all of the fucking timers

[tacit epoch]

Are there certain timers to stack camps? I kinda just do it 10 sec before the next minute and it works

[tight sluice]

Just hit alt

It will show u

I think ancients is 53-55

That's the only one I know off hand

Logging on

[stiff pebble]

There are very specific timers for every camp

[tight sluice]

Just hold alt it shows u pull and stack timers

[vital pollen]

not just carry

can play him as pos 4 and 5 as well

[tight sluice]

and mid

https://tenor.com/view/redbull-og-dota2-topson-yes-gif-15248199

GABENNNNN

@vital pollenalso how u only have CM arcana

you play this game way longer than me

are you strictly pos 4/5 player?

[vital pollen]

cause valve doesnt make arcana for supports

[errant tusk]

oh yea on top of that too

but just talking even about carry

you can build in so many ways

can go diffu/echo sabre/deso/bkb

bfury/maelstrom

[tight sluice]

ECHO SABRE

[errant tusk]

actually can build him in all the ways

[vital pollen]

theres only cm/rubick arcana, basically

[tight sluice]

🤮

[errant tusk]

corossion too

[vital pollen]

ogre too, but it fucking sucks

think ill grab PA arcana tho

cause its still one of the best arcanas in the game

[errant tusk]

actually most viable item builds out of all the heroes probably

some carries are rly lcoked into 'just' go bf

[tight sluice]

yeah pa arcana is the only one I have

[errant tusk]

or just do x thing

[tight sluice]

then they nerfed her into the ground 2 days after I bought it

[vital pollen]

if they reworked lina arcana

thatd be nice

[tight sluice]

PA good for a week

[vital pollen]

but my lina looks much better

[tight sluice]

then icefrog NOPE

[vital pollen]

than the fucking arcana

http://puu.sh/JpZfq/5804ffab04.jpg

[tight sluice]

that is nice

what the fuck is wrong with the coordinator

[vital pollen]

everybody is logging in

trying to claim free shit

[tight sluice]

I'm on break I need to claim this now

[vital pollen]

so yeah

rubick or PA for me ig

[tight sluice]

we queueing pos1 tonight

[vital pollen]

i barely play rubick tho

cause hero is almost never useful

[tight sluice]

cm arcana is nice

hopefully I'll pick up that one with candies later on

[vital pollen]

what slot is rubick arcana

[tight sluice]

my favorites arent in the game

[vital pollen]

cloak

http://puu.sh/JpZfz/a4bbbbd4de.jpg

i like this cloak a lot

[tight sluice]

wtf does rubick arcana change

[vital pollen]

basically all spells

[tight sluice]

wait

how come the levels aren't applying to my BP

[vital pollen]

all spells become green

or if you steal shit like pango ult

youre actually running around as a rubicks cube

http://puu.sh/JpZgt/9b5a93ed06.jpg

[tight sluice]

?????????

wtf

I didn't get any BP levels

[vital pollen]

it takes a while

[tight sluice]

or dota plus time

[vital pollen]

oh

did you not do

the games?

or can you select the arcana

but nothing else

[errant tusk]

lina arcaena is very outdated

[tight sluice]

lol

[errant tusk]

shgould get an updated yea

[vital pollen]

ye

[tight sluice]

yeah I've done the games

[vital pollen]

but lina also has so much good shit

and expensive shit

[tight sluice]

I selected BP levels and dota plus

@vital pollendo you know how to unlock this style

I know PA is likel

win 50 games or some shit

[vital pollen]

no idea

You can unlock it by getting 10 kills using juggernaut's omnislash in normal(AP) or ranked games. Bot games dont count. After that you can switch to any version of your choice.11 Mar 2018

meanwhile WR arcana

takes like

500 games or some shit

[tight sluice]

oops PA is 100 games to win

to get the red blades

[vital pollen]

yeah

thats easy too tho

WR is

2.5million dmg with focus fire

[tight sluice]

what's qops?

[vital pollen]

1k kills with sonic wave

http://puu.sh/JpZhB/02671fb76a.jpg

[tight sluice]

it's so pretty

[vital pollen]

hair/horns arent from arcana

cause these look better

than the arcana ones

[tight sluice]

ye I know I have those

[vital pollen]

the sad thing is

that qop already had

insane wings

[tight sluice]

isn't her arcana her weapon?

[vital pollen]

nah

thats what people got annoyed about

http://puu.sh/JpZi3/cc30cdf947.jpg

cause the old immortal wings

looked so good

[tight sluice]

ye

SF arcana is so basic

lol

OK ye it just applied the levels

[tacit epoch]

I was thinking about it but the persona from this year bp does exist

[tight sluice]

you'll prob be able to get cm arcana later anyway with this BP

[wide geode]

It’s my supreme hopium that I’ll be allowed to purchase those arcanas one day.

[errant tusk]

@vital pollenplay video game

[tight sluice]

you can

purchase cm

[errant tusk]

when this fixes

[tight sluice]

not qop or WR

@errant tusk mk arcana so tempting

Wish you could just change the styles tho instead of it being ult specific

[vital pollen]

cant atm

sry

[errant tusk]

[stiff pebble]

Yeah but the red is still better

[tight sluice]

dota is exploding

I can't even accept BP items

[tight sluice]

what

[stiff pebble]

What?

[tight sluice]

I want my arcana

[vital pollen]

true

[stiff pebble]

Seems like a positive thing that they've done here... Eventually.

[vital pollen]

ye

game has been trending upwards in player numbers for a few months now

guess theyre trying to capitalize on that further

[tight sluice]

the rubick arcana has spell animations for stolen spells

[vital pollen]

yes

[stiff pebble]

Yeah well maybe they can cut a fucking ad or two

[vital pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k251QJZSECo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k251QJZSECo&t=102s

best one

by far

[stiff pebble]

[vital pollen]

the timestamped one

[stiff pebble]

Not close, but you do have to play Rubick

Which I love, but I understand otherwise

A rolling cube is pretty fucking stupid though

[vital pollen]

its a magic cube, dw

[stiff pebble]

Uhhuh.

[tight sluice]

weird you can't use immortal jugg weapon with arcana and select the q animation you want

[burnt basin]

Can’t you?

You can

From the hero screen

Where you customize your items

There is an arrow under spells you can use different animations from

I use kantusa with immortal animation

[tight sluice]

ill s how u

in a bit

[tight sluice]

how is this real

@burnt basin

see

if the immortal has a spell effect for q

it overwrites the arcana

let me demo test it

[tight sluice]

how tf you get omnislash kills when everyone steals the last hit

[tender fox]

press omni press enemy hero

[tight sluice]

yeah

but like

theyj ust

steal the lasthit

like last game I had a skywrath steal a bunch of kills while I was in omni

[tacit epoch]

Jugg is getting permabanned in pubs 💤

[tight sluice]

Yep

I've played with 2 rubick mids this morning too

Dunno why people have such a hardon for banning jugg.

This isnt new he was banned alot pre swag bag too

[errant tusk]

'hard' to counter coz built in bkb

if you are scared to play vs jugg pick axe or LC

2 best counters probably

[burnt basin]

i mmean, my sword doesnt do that? it uses the golden shit?

and i also know thats true because gorg uses the red version of that sword with the arcana

and it has a different spin

[tender fox]

Equipping it wrong order

[burnt basin]

i can finally open dota hold on

imma claim a second useless arcana

and then see

[tight sluice]

I don't ban him. Hes my most played carry.

He just isn't really strong. Or weak rn

Last patch before the nerfs and the 56% winrate was nuts tho

[burnt basin]

prolly gonna go for the TB one since it has chances to give it with diferent colo

r

[tight sluice]

Spin to win build

[tight sluice]

Wdym wrong order