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torn girder
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are they alive?

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they got roflstomped last night

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23 minute gg

rocky moon
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Spirit lol

errant tusk
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lgd just needs to not be stupid about drafts

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let enemies get their best heroes so easily

rocky moon
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TA is going to take it, right?

errant tusk
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idk

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i dont rly get to watch that much so cant tell

rocky moon
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Finals against Puppey, he will lose once again and finally retire

errant tusk
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when i woke up eg/TA was already done

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and then i went to take a shower and secret-lgd was looking like a giga stomp

tender fox
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ppy feels greedy and will play until he fails to qual to ti or something

errant tusk
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he makes ti's

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plays good

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people want to play with him

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why stop?

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if he still has drive to play ofc

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its rarely that you look at secret and are like

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'ye its puppeys fault they lost'

rocky moon
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Greedy lol

tender fox
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ye he likes his monies

tight sluice
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I will always love puppey

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as a navi simp

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from back in the day

tender fox
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didnt he ltierally steal money from his teammates

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with the turk owner

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didnt pay salaries and shit

tight sluice
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did he?

tender fox
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early secret days

tight sluice
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oh

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I dunno

torn girder
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just ban out entire zayac reso hero pool and easy win

burnt basin
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that was not puppey wtf

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u think it would have got out that puppey steals money from hsi teammates and anyone would play with him again?

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it was teh team manager before they swapped to cyborgmatt

vital pollen
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you cant ban reso

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in this patch

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but zayac only has 1 exceptional hero

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you just ban marci/nyx

burnt basin
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i think reso's pool feels more expanded in the offlane than ever before

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marci nyx primal opening bans

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and ure on a good path

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the problem if u do that is that lesh gets through

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in all honesty its proly better to ban marci primal lesh

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and counter the nyx

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esp visage teams have an easy time

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the new techies is also a huge counter

vital pollen
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just ban the nyx+marci

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lesh is more than beatable

burnt basin
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nowhere on this " article" of twitch stream comments (which i was watching live at that moment btw) states that puppey stole money

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poor management with stealing is not the same

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but hey you keep eating what they feedin u lol

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envy was the piss poor victim in this

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which is why he is where he is (alienated from the scene) and puppey is where he is

tender fox
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ye skimming 10% of the top with kamal who took the fall

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"poor mgmt"

tender fox
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Randomly wake up check game

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Og stomped

stiff pebble
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Game 2 dracthyr_sip

versed matrix
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UB full of stomps so far

tender fox
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boxi just lingers with 1 hp for like 3 minutes and get kills

versed matrix
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SF bb for nothing, game slipping away

tender fox
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ye was weird fight was over 3 dead

versed matrix
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EU in to the bin

tender fox
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group b won all ub games

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all 2-0

stiff pebble
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I really do appreciate the lack of downtime.

tender fox
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ye feels very high tempo between matchups

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prolly cus they decided to only fly out like 10 ppl

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RTZ HAHAHAHAHAH

stiff pebble
torn girder
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He is going yataro way

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Yataro won ti as bald man

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Rtz is superstitious

tender fox
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they all just ignore marci hu

versed matrix
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Na dota kekdog

buoyant sage
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wth rtz

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went bald like clean clean bald

worldly hamlet
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go next, they almost didnt even kill the cm

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lmao

tender fox
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eg 0-4 vs SA in playoff and out inc

versed matrix
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finally got 1st t1 tower

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with brood pick

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baldteezy for what?

tight sluice
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Is this the first game

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Or is eg out if they lose

versed matrix
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1st game

tight sluice
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Ah ok

versed matrix
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but they looking crap in this so far

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mars top nw lul

vital pollen
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EG out already?

tender fox
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0-1

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lost quite hard

vital pollen
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Rtz still can't carry games can he?

tender fox
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they did a last pick tb that didnt fit their lineup at all

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and they just got rolled

vital pollen
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Tb is a dogshit hero anyway

buoyant sage
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game 2 lesgo

tender fox
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first pick storm inc

ionic aurora
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Don't do it bulba, I beg

vital pollen
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First pick cm

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?????????

buoyant sage
tender fox
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think marci was completly ignored last game

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not banned or picked

versed matrix
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marci too weak

stiff pebble
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CM ComfyBear

versed matrix
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ez 2-0

buoyant sage
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go back to sleep nightfall

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dude looks like he didnt sleep in ages

tender fox
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degens got the most power

vital pollen
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oh boy a spirit hero for abed

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anyone watch the aster/liquid games? worth watching?

versed matrix
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saw g2 nothing remarkable

tight sluice
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the hell is going on top all the creeps in the jg

vital pollen
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its kinda sad

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how abed couldve been one of the best mids of all time

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but hell never be considered one cause his heropool consists of 4 heroes

tight sluice
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does he only play the spirit heroes or something?

vital pollen
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pmuch

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emberspirit, voidspirit, stormspirit and puck

tender fox
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added primal

vital pollen
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he doesnt really play anything else

tender fox
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think he is 5-1 with it in ti so far

vital pollen
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if the hero isnt immune to ganks somehow

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hes just not that impactful a mid

tight sluice
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god lesh is so strong

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this patch

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bloodstone go brr

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why the mjolnir vs naga instead of radiance?

tender fox
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what is radiance gonna do ICANT

tight sluice
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I dunno that's why I'm asking isn't radiance an illu counter item?

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although watching this, the goal seems to be just ignore the naga and kill everyone else in which case radiance isn't that good

buoyant sage
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naix against naga:

versed matrix
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idk abed has not been too impressive on ember this series

buoyant sage
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its not like he can have enough burst against bc comp

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too much regen

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finito

versed matrix
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decent group stage 0 wins in playoffs

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gg

tight sluice
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artour

tacit epoch
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Eg gone

tight sluice
wide geode
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Kyle Curse confirmed.

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The SA meme dream is alive and well.

versed matrix
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kyle is garbage

tender fox
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rtz went bald for this KEKW

buoyant sage
vital pollen
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eg fans went bald watching this

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so its only fair

buoyant sage
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thunder awaken wins TI

tender fox
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his fuckign hand gestures

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at least he aint waving them around in loser interviews

errant tusk
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kyle's fault

vital pollen
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my prediction from day1

errant tusk
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Weirdege 🇩🇪

buoyant sage
vital pollen
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at least the timeline was corrected now

tight sluice
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2gd is back the timeline is fixed

buoyant sage
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"it's EG year"

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  • Kyle
versed matrix
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not even the correct amount of total games

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smh my head

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spot on though, EG crumble

vital pollen
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cant wait for EG to remove nightfall, get another offlaner and continue playing the same dota for another year

tender fox
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worked in groups, obv just unlucky in playoff

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next time for sure

vital pollen
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justu nlucky these last 4 years where they havent won anything

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is this LGDs year, coming out of the lower bracket?

tight sluice
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slardar

versed matrix
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im not that well versed in the meta but eg losses today seemed to be down to the draft

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EG just made history after this loss to BC. It is the first time a team that top the group in TI to not win a single game in playoff.

tender fox
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the taxi tp

vital pollen
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dunno, EG drafted the same shit they drafted all tourney

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maybe grp A was just dogshit

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seeing how all grp B teams went 2-0 in upper bracket

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lgd are outfarming them so hard

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that bkb from nts

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holy fuck

buoyant sage
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he had dd too

vital pollen
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this teamfighting from lgd

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actually insane

tender fox
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if es did echo 1ms earlier

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bs dead also NODDERS

vital pollen
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ame drow gameplay is sick

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how much he does with so little

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love the way nts plays ember. just a facilitator for his team, not the big carry himself

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nts god

tender fox
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Was last of the day right

buoyant sage
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yes

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still cant believe EG picked naix after naga OME

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actual 322

tender fox
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at least u get to wake up early tomorow for og

errant tusk
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oh you mean diff thing i think

buoyant sage
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so why in hell would you pick naix after the enemy team picked naga

errant tusk
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idk if anyone linkedthis but

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this guy thinking valve OWES anything to community

tender fox
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i mean the amount of money the community gives to valve for such shitty quality PES2_Shrug but yeah they wont do shit

errant tusk
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stop buying compendium

buoyant sage
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lmao

tender fox
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not bought anything EZ

buoyant sage
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if he thinks they gonna do something about it

tender fox
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valve will say: we did something, we gave u 2gd

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we worked with an ass for you

buoyant sage
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lul

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they could

errant tusk
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only time valve explained sth was when 2gd did legendary shanghai major coz they wanted to expand on china market

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ironically

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he works again with them

tender fox
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only plus about this ti is that they have a fucking insane tempo between games to get shit going

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like no downtime

errant tusk
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to then have week break

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gotta rush

tender fox
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cant afford their current venue

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with the 100 chairs infront of a stage

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gotta get out quickly

vital pollen
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the entitlement with people is so fucking insane

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"please explain all your business decisions to us, you owe it to us"

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bruv, just stop watching/financially supporting the game if its that unwatchable

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CSGO played without booths for ages and the complaints about it affecting competitive integrity were minimal

tight sluice
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stop giving them money won't do anything though

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they'll just shut the game down and you won't have dota anymore

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but I agree with you it was a dumb post

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valve does not have to explain shit to anyone

vital pollen
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this community doesnt deserve a good dev

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people still think PGL is doing this cause theyre greedy, and not because organizing tournaments of this scale simply isnt profitable

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cant wait for PGL to announce theyre no longer doing dota tournaments as theres not enough money in it

tight sluice
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ye I mean

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riot loses money on their esports division and has for years

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I'm with you

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reddit so whiney

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since the BP dropped really

vital pollen
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reddit has been whiney forever

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lets be real

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i stopped reading poe reddit cause its just a garbage fest

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and i didnt read dota one for years either, just started again recently and now i remember why

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lots of people with no real world experience (not that i have much to brag about either) or understanding of how these things work

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and people genuinely think that its a good idea to have valve foot the bill for all of this shit

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when the one thing that made dota great was that its one of the games where you had an endemic esports scene growth, that wasnt subsidized by millions of marketing dollars from the dev of the game

tender fox
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this is how they are so quick NOTED

vital pollen
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dunno if thats a feature PGL prepped ot if thats just part of the venue theyre in

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seems more like the latter

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but the 15y old 1k mmr reddit brains think that the only way to guarantee a satisfying level of soundproofing is with booths

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when its not a booth issue, its a audio-engineering one

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and that most of the noise you pick up isnt from the headphones not being soundproofed either, but from people using their microphones which will obviously pick up loud background noise

errant tusk
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valve fucked up by nto making it seattle event every year

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makes logicstics/technical issues almost non existant

vital pollen
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Would've always been small event

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Key arena renovating definitely caused some issues

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I'm not a fan of this traveling ti either. It's nice for fans but it's super hard for producing it well

errant tusk
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yea its celebration of dota 2 so kinda makes sense that they are in diff place every time

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what about league do they have one studio t hey do everything in?

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or how do they do it

vital pollen
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They lose a lot of money on it

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From what I've heard

tender fox
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riot run the whole esport scene so

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they just pay the bill but it moves around

vital pollen
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But yeah it's moving around

errant tusk
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i dont mind valve not caring about dota anymore

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that would mean people that genuinely care might step in

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or game dies

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its their IP in the end

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they can juts close the game down

tender fox
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wont be the same if they dont keep throwing battle pases for boosting prize pool

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and i mean its free moeny for them they wont just shut it down

errant tusk
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maybe, its like 0.1% for them anyway i bet

tender fox
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100 mill dollars every year is not nothing

errant tusk
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they could also not even give 25% away

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and have 100% for themselves instead of 75%

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win/win PEPW

tender fox
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ppl wont buy unless some go to players

errant tusk
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people will buy

tender fox
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actually surprised the low split has been accepted for so long

errant tusk
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ofc

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people want skins

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people love them

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i have so many friends that buy them 1st day without even checking out whats in there

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and they're level 500-600

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insta day 1

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coz they just care about having stuff

tender fox
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i guess, but i think they still will gain more from giving a sum away to prize pool due to others wanna contribute for that specific purpose

errant tusk
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also if you wanna support players jut ask them for paypal and give them

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actually give them 100%

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not 25% PEPW

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if valve drops 'release new hero' benchmark for 30 mil spent on bp

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or w/e other goal

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people will start dropping a lot

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i mean people will give them money

vital pollen
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yeah

tender fox
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ye ofc, you can see it in other games like overwatch ppl will spend on battle pass even though it goes to nothing

vital pollen
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people saying "i buy battlepass to support TI" are just lying to themselves

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they want the skins

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wanna support OG? buy OG merch

torn girder
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Ah

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Wake up

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See eg blew it

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All is normal

vital pollen
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timeline restored

errant tusk
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i think people that buy only bp with 0 levels kinda wanna support ti

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the whales will whale anyway

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and buy 1k levels

tender fox
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but imo i think they still earn more money valve that is by only taking 75% for exampel than 100% cus it will amass in more spending in total

vital pollen
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the way i see it

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its very likely that valve wanted a TI in asia

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cause the only other big event we ever had there, was shanghai major

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so they chose singapore

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which is probably the worst place to have a tournament

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cause its ridiculously expensive

torn girder
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Kinda hope one of the SA teams wins it all

vital pollen
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and we now have to deal with the fact that PGL won the bid for organizing an event that they mightve simply expected to be a lot cheaper than it turned out to be

torn girder
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Would be cool

vital pollen
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im also guessing PGL doesnt have the same amount of contacts and contractors at their beck and call as they do in the US/europe

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quality differences between events is to be expected

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world cup in qatar wont be the same as one in france or germany

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when PGL joined the TOs that did dota2 tourneys, they were hyped as the best thing to ever happen to dota

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manila major is still hailed as one of the best events ever. that was PGLs first dota2 major

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boston/kiev major were great, so was ti6

errant tusk
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problem of pgl is they lost all of their good stuff to esl

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staff*

vital pollen
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Cause ESL is even more profit oriented than pgl kekdog

errant tusk
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esl likes oil money

vital pollen
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Ye

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That's soooo much better than gambling right

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The Saudi blood oil money

errant tusk
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ye

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this ti will always be tainted by players hearing casters

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i think

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the results are tainted because of it

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at least i see it that way

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and rng getting unlucky

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thats 2 most impactful out of players hands

vital pollen
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Yeah

errant tusk
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things

vital pollen
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They'll learn from it

errant tusk
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that changed course of the tournament

vital pollen
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Shit happens

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Some events are just bad

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Like Shanghai

errant tusk
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i dont think we've ever had hearing casters thing

vital pollen
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2gd at both of them

errant tusk
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as bad as now

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coz its actually hearing casters

vital pollen
errant tusk
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which is the issue

vital pollen
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Ye

errant tusk
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hearing crowd is ok

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coz people can get loud/lots of people

vital pollen
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It just needs fixing by a good engineer

errant tusk
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but hearing casters when they just play by play calm cast is very concerning

vital pollen
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Different mics/headphones

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Turning down venue speakers

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With how many people complained today

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I'm guessing it'll be fixed/a lot better tomorrow

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And a non issue for the final games

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Still, the results are fucked as a result imo

tender fox
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so secret had maphack vs lgd first day NOTED

errant tusk
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well they did

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its not wrong

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it impacted the game

torn girder
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Wait

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The players heard the casters on stage while playing the game?????

errant tusk
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according to stormstormer

torn girder
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WHAT

errant tusk
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or maybe was it other player

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dont remember

torn girder
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LOL WHAT

errant tusk
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one player said it in post game interview

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also some chinese players said they could hear but couldnt understand ofc

torn girder
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Hooooooooly

errant tusk
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coz they dont speak english

torn girder
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Ok ye if thats true this a meme ti

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What the fuck KEKW

tender fox
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gaimin gladiators said it, in coms a call was, "i heard they had dd, dont take a fight"

torn girder
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Imagine in comms “stfu guys stfu i need to hear what other team is doing”

errant tusk
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ye possibly it was them then

torn girder
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That is some clown shit wow

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Failure of a ti

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Imagine losing cause not fluent in english

tender fox
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aster got the memo and started to study english terms for their game vs liquid KEKW

errant tusk
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yea thats by far worst thing

torn girder
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That more or less invalidates whole thing for me like wtf lmao

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Meme ti

tender fox
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today thed added earphones and headphones over with white noise

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and they didnt clean them or anything so the team after got some full of earwax and stuff

torn girder
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Imagine that hour long game from entity

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Entire late game they are silent

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Trying to hear where enemy team is

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Very sad

vital pollen
torn girder
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holy outplay

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by OG

distant yoke
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they just turnt on the heat

torn girder
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ye

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that little play by monkey and invoker in top

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where they picked up the kill on silencer

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then forced tp

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tp'd back themselves and then forced the favorable fight

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beauty

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started that whole snowball

distant yoke
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OG at their best

tight sluice
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CEEEBBBB

stiff pebble
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just had to get that rune...

torn girder
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yuragi knows how to toss a game away by dying 3x in a row

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nah

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game was over at that point

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yuragi got infest bombed like 3x for no reason

stiff pebble
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Well ye

torn girder
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they had the game in the bag then he got infest bombed while solo pushing lol

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legit 3x

torn girder
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another notable team about to get eliminated or

stiff pebble
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...!

tender fox
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Gg Choke

worldly hamlet
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no aegis for u

torn girder
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that bkb timing

worldly hamlet
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wheres the dmg breakdown after fight, wonder how much jakiro is doing

torn girder
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sunsfan lul

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wtf

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the way he said gg's name

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"this is looking real bad for gayman"

stiff pebble
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Lol

tacit epoch
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Gay men 😏

torn girder
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wait is that the meme of their name or

tender fox
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BZM WTF

stiff pebble
tender fox
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he rly wanted to pop that aegis without bkb

torn girder
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ye

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he was feeling it a little too much

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toying with kunkka got him in some type of mood

tender fox
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i mean he tried to buy time with aegis for his team to take bottom rax but

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yeah

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was actually fine if he just had bkb

torn girder
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i wonder how og will throw this one

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bzm voker

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very nice

tender fox
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they just cant kill anyone in gg

stiff pebble
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So gud voker

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Yeah the only damage they have is invoker, everything else is control

torn girder
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i think he means gg not able to kill anyone on og

tender fox
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ye to much disengage and defensive spells like ice wall, path etc

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and no burst on gg

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song

wide geode
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That was a legit game.

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I was honestly a Sand King hater.

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but Amars stuns were on point.

tender fox
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they just outlast the fights

torn girder
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bzm looks too comfortable on invoker lol

wide geode
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The set up on stuns between him, the path, even setting up with Naga

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actually so fluid

torn girder
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smooth gameplay nice to watch

rocky moon
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Time to make breakfast before next bo3

wide geode
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That was a hype Bo3. BZM was a monster there too lol.

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The refresher fountain dive to send it off.

torn girder
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but ye lot of cancer on the ground in that comp

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ice path

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ice wall

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sandstorm

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holy moly fuck off mate

wide geode
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aw man that wholesome mom and dad moment

stiff pebble
tender fox
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bkb ac silverblade kka just did 0 dmg

torn girder
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once bkb ends you just wanna neck yourself

tender fox
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daedalus oneshots where modCheck

wide geode
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TI games have been pretty hype so far, I'm afraid we're wasting all the hype games, GF is gonna be a 3 0 stomp or something

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lol

torn girder
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idk i havent watched too much main stage wasnt a lot of games just stomps 2-0

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wasnt that the first 2-1 lul

tender fox
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ye

torn girder
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man fuckin eg

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clowns

wide geode
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Yeah I just mean game quality wise, the Bo1 elim matches were

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insanity

torn girder
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how do you go from win groups to 0-4 quick elimination in playoffs kekW

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is there an anymore EG thing to do

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maybe get to gf go 2-0 then get reverse swept after "?"

burnt basin
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GG paid their indecisiveness to push top lane

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after they got it to 30% after htey got the aegis

wide geode
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They were doomed the moment Kyle said EG was hot.

burnt basin
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game could have ended there

wide geode
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The Kyle Curse is fucking real.

burnt basin
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instead they move mid and get ultra caught

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they could have won this

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naga barely had manta then

torn girder
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wtf yuragi has pretty good english

wide geode
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Ammar interviews are my fav

tender fox
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english team so bound to learn

torn girder
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is it

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misha is russian

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yuragi ukrainian

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ammar is what

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montenegro or

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no wait

tender fox
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jordan

torn girder
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jordanye

tender fox
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bzm bulgaria, taiga norweigan

torn girder
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ye not very english bro

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3 players are slav cykas

tender fox
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i mean u gotta speak english so u can communicate with all KEKW

torn girder
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ceb tutored them

wide geode
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It's always surprising to me a lot of the chinese mainstays never learned a little bit of english for an interview or two.

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or at least to talk shit. kekW

tender fox
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liquid, thunder, aster wins next games

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apparently 3 beastcoast players got covid also

rocky moon
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is there ti disband table already?

tender fox
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og apparently got a new analyst yday

torn girder
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notail shelling out some cash rq

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the boys are in need

tender fox
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entity such weird drafting compared to rest

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have there even been a pudge main stage yet

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nah ppl only spam sf that is like 1-9 now

burnt basin
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how greedy is their draft though

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naga slardar arc

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oh and tiny that needs his blink

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and effectively no punish yet

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as i say it it starts LUL

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every secret fan needs entity in lower bracket

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cause they cant beat them

tender fox
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Bara just reks slard

stiff pebble
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Zai enigma again huh...

tender fox
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Finally pudge

versed matrix
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ho ho ha ha

buoyant sage
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phew OG won

versed matrix
#

what is pudge doing there with bkb on cd

vital pollen
#

its liquid past minute 20

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they dont know how to play the game

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if thye dont have a 10-15k networth lead by minute20

versed matrix
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blackhole on bkb lesh

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unlucky

tender fox
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I mean they only got magic dmg cus lina didnt go right click

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Big mistake

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Cant kill blackhole ppl if bkb etc

versed matrix
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dont see how liquid can win this

tender fox
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Enigma cant do much

versed matrix
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supports cant do anything

tender fox
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Unless some big 4 or 5 man

versed matrix
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cores likewise

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ho ho ha ha

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love me some sniper

wide geode
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HEE HEE

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HO HO

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HA HA

buoyant sage
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thanks for standing still ganker

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ho ho ho

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Ephey

versed matrix
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how is it possible that she is 12/10

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I cant

versed matrix
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I dont like tsunami

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he sounds so fake

buoyant sage
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wtf

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dudes wholesome af

versed matrix
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cm 1st phase?

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why?

tender fox
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Some first pick cm

versed matrix
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why tho

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nobody gonna ban that

tender fox
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Dont wanna give away to much early

buoyant sage
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liquid banned him but it could have been another ho ho ha ha game for entity

tender fox
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Nah pudge is for pure

buoyant sage
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san er yi jiayou ❗

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boxi gonna first hit bash all game now

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choo choo

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broodmother

tender fox
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Matu got this

buoyant sage
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idk why micke keeps going on puck during the fights when 4 other liquid members clearly go on other targets

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for good reasons

tender fox
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Bkb for enigma and its over

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Lucky with creepwaves

wide geode
#

DUDE

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LIQUID IS DOING IT

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LETS GOOO

tender fox
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Its just over if pudge or puck get blackholed

errant tusk
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just have either 1 coiled

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stormstormer bought wrong item

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he should've went wind waker

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or someone in general should've from their team

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they need save for bh

tender fox
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What does windwaker even do never seen it

errant tusk
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you can eul teammate

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and if you eul yourself you can move with idk 200 ms

tender fox
errant tusk
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sometimes people go for it vs puck so you can break coil without stunning yourself

tender fox
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Over

versed matrix
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bara mvp

vital pollen
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why is puck not cancelling BH with ult

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literally just sitting there throwing orbs

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completely useless in the fights

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and the one thing hes supposed to do, he isnt doing

tender fox
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Isnt bkb pierce removed

errant tusk
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its a 25 talent now

vital pollen
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ye

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but hes been 25

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for the last 3 teamfights

wide geode
#

BOXI IS SUCH A BALLER

vital pollen
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maybe the magic immunity pierce only goes on the snap?

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and not the ministun?

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but thatd be weird

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and useless

errant tusk
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nah it doesnt work

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on that part

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i asked puck spammer

vital pollen
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i know the old aghs didnt ministun through bkb but i thought they fixed that

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aight

errant tusk
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you cant stop bh with coil

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well you can if he has no bkb ofc

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but with bkb no

vital pollen
#

okay

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thats garbage then

wide geode
#

"Gg wp love u guys"

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😭

buoyant sage
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black hole too stronk

tender fox
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Would be over so much sooner if Zai just rushed bkb

tacit epoch
#

These vids are back

wide geode
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god bless flax

tender fox
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Also yday was done in like 1.5h yday and today its just half way dead

wide geode
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Crystallis always getting 5headed in chat.

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lmao

tender fox
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More 6headed

wide geode
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CAP

tender fox
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Drowndont feel like a crystallis hero

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gorp keep calling thunder awaken for tundra or thunder predators PEPW

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TA look really good actually

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playing sloppy now though

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why do pango blind initiate with roll

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instead of letting mars and just roll in the ult

versed matrix
#

leshrac gaming

tender fox
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Mars missed to many ults and died when ahead

buoyant sage
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where spirit vessel

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Cap happyge

wide geode
#

PURGE

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Thanks Purge ThumbsUp

buoyant sage
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insanely based person

tight sluice
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this patch is very very good

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hmm an hour till the next game

tacit epoch
#

Ye it's fun

rocky moon
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Reso even looks like Marci

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1/11/11 cm lol

tight sluice
#

ER

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c patch actually was the void/refresher changes

burnt basin
#

them doomed drafts

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they are gonna fuck up with their minds too

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with this silencer

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that it could be 3 again

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with 4 marci

tight sluice
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oh there's a game

burnt basin
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or marci 3 with silencer 5

rocky moon
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wait, leshrac is still up?

buoyant sage
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they let lesh and marci again

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gg

tight sluice
#

it sucks half these games are on when I'm asleep

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you guys get to watch more

rocky moon
#

Wake up earlier

tight sluice
#

2 am

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lmfao

rocky moon
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TI isn’t up whole year

tight sluice
#

hopefully finals will be on a reasonable time

errant tusk
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such a shame crystalis is too weak for t1 dota

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and secret wont make it to ti with him ;/

tight sluice
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lmfao nix

errant tusk
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ok i thought its playable

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but that free aghs for ursa

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might seal the deal

tight sluice
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what are these ravages

tender fox
errant tusk
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sure OMEGALUL

rocky moon
#

top2 for secret this year

errant tusk
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they're already top 3 right?

tender fox
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top3 is secured

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i mean crystallis is not worthless but he is far from good, like these games he do nothing but afk farm first 30 minutes while nisha and reso runs around and carries the game and he is still like 5-6th on networth

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i have legit no idea how he is so inefficient with so much space

errant tusk
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its like when matu played in secret when they peaked, he wasnt ever star

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he just needs to not fuck up

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it was zai/nisha being best

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and its same scenario

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crystalis is far less experienced ofc

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but that system works best for secret historically when their mid/off has good games

vital pollen
#

well im glad this slark didnt participate in any fight

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entire mid fight around t1

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all of secret 20% hp

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slark is top jungle farming medium camp and lane creeps

errant tusk
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its like when people hated on topson when he won his 1st ti

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dogshit trash player

vital pollen
#

entity could be a good team if they bring a 5th player

errant tusk
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0 impact

vital pollen
#

but dear god tobi was useless all tournament

errant tusk
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and people are still riding ana's dick or miracles dick

vital pollen
#

but that slark reminded me of an irl friend

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farming items for 20min

errant tusk
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when they havent shown anything good

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for a long time

vital pollen
#

while enemy carry fights

errant tusk
vital pollen
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i mean

errant tusk
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or rtzs

vital pollen
#

miracle just got sucekd off hard in his team

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idk why people ev er hyped him up this hard

tender fox
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i mena just imagine someone like pure with this space in secret

vital pollen
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he was the only mid who got pos1 farm priority as a mid player

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"wow hes outfarming everybody, insane"

rocky moon
vital pollen
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yeah cuz matu played a fear-carry

rocky moon
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(couldn't resist)

errant tusk
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thats such a flawed logic

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coz entire entity is set up around pure having good games

vital pollen
#

ye

errant tusk
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and he uses it well

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you cant just

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-WORST PLAYER OF TEAM

vital pollen
#

theyre very like LGD

versed matrix
#

skiter, slovakia lets go

errant tusk
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+BEST PLAYER OF THAT ROLE

vital pollen
#

stormstormer is NTS 2.0

errant tusk
#

= BETTER TEAM

vital pollen
#

sacrificial mid that plays to set up fights/control tempo, not to do flashy plays/carry games

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the only difference between entity and lgd

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is that lgd has a pos3

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that gets shit done

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while tobi doesnt do shit all game

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other than feed spiderlings on brood

tender fox
#

it feel kinda similar though cus nisha+reso dont really soak up all farm they often leave like half the map for crystallis these last games they mostly just fight at least

vital pollen
#

now we get to watch the best offlaner in the tournament

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nah

tender fox
#

i dunno just saying secret would be so much better with a carry that actually could use the space

vital pollen
#

reso is hoarding gold

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every game

errant tusk
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at least in qualifiers where i watched all games unlike now i remember crystalis being sent to deadlanes

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and work with scraps

vital pollen
#

ye

errant tusk
#

and theyh send reso to triangle + easy lane

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so ofc

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he is gonna get way more when he is on the better half of the map

#

dont know now, not watching all games

vital pollen
#

xxs vs neta, offlane gods

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nah crystallis is still the matu/fear of secret

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getting shitty lanes

errant tusk
#

crystalis was not stomping lanes he was supposed to stomp

vital pollen
#

with mid-game impact heroes

errant tusk
#

in quals

vital pollen
#

mostly heroes with spell-based impact, not farm-based one

errant tusk
#

well ofc he isnt as good as matu/fear

vital pollen
#

its not a role you just do well

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when youre a pubstar

errant tusk
#

but if he manages to ever reach matu level

vital pollen
#

where you have to carry almost every game

errant tusk
#

he's gonna be very desired player

vital pollen
#

secret is still a fresh team

tender fox
#

he played like drow first game an was losing cs to a pango with like 15 vs 40

errant tusk
#

because there is so many ego flashy mids

tender fox
vital pollen
#

so i think theyre doing more than fine

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CSing as drow

#

is pain

errant tusk
#

worst carry to last hit with probably LULE

vital pollen
#

if you play into a hero you cant orbwalk pressure out of lasthit range

tender fox
#

ye but hte sad part is that he was like 15 vs 0

#

first lvls

#

then just missed everything

vital pollen
#

yeah

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cause lv 1-3

tender fox
#

for like 6 waves

vital pollen
#

you pressure him away from the creeps

#

past that, the pango gets staying power

errant tusk
#

ye should play laning stage better i agree

#

but still system works for them and he will improve

vital pollen
#

thats also on the support tho

errant tusk
#

and there isnt players like him in the scene

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its matu that was like that

vital pollen
#

its just like old liquid

#

supports constantly sucking mid-dick

#

just like ppd back in the day for sumail

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or crit/fly for abed

#

or jerax back then for miracle

#

they just abandon safelane early

#

to help their mid

tender fox
#

i dont htink crystallis is that kind of player though he just gets that role cus he isnt rly performing

vital pollen
#

nah

#

hes versatile

#

and a pubstar

#

he has the mechanics

errant tusk
#

why would you even want him to be that guy in that team

vital pollen
#

now he just needs to learn the strats

errant tusk
#

reso and nisha are better

#

and proven

#

and he's new guy on the block

vital pollen
#

you need a moldable youngster

#

and hes doing a good job at that

#

he still sucks at times, ofc

#

like everybody else

errant tusk
#

its like they tried it with iltw in nigma

#

where they'd pick him luna or tb

#

but still suck miracles dick on mid

#

why

#

you are just wasting time

tender fox
#

tundra potm first phase 24/7

errant tusk
#

thats why crystallis morph doesnt work coz that hero actually needs lots of resources

#

also i think crystalis isnt good on the hero

vital pollen
#

ye

errant tusk
#
  • idk if he tilts or sth
vital pollen
#

same for TB

errant tusk
#

coz he always gets killed with shift stuff

vital pollen
#

TB is a hero where every minute you can stay on lane longer

errant tusk
#

idk if tilt

vital pollen
#

is crucial

errant tusk
#

or stressed out

#

or just bad at hero

#

but he always has deaths to morphing to agi

vital pollen
#

but crystallis tb is often pushed out of lane

#

by minute 6 or 7

#

and then his game is dead

errant tusk
#

honestly idk why ever give morph in secret to someone else than nisha

#

he has such good morph

vital pollen
#

ye

#

idk

#

i htink secret could swap lanes a lot

#

reso is a god-tier mid player, at least he used to be, and a very very good carry

tender fox
#

i remember crystallis morph mid KEKW

vital pollen
#

nishe can play 1/2

errant tusk
#

ye crystalis shouldnt play morph

vital pollen
#

and you can give crystallis some mars or razor 3

errant tusk
#

he isnt good on the hero or gets tilted/stressed out idfk

tender fox
#

and i still dont know why every team give secret marci

#

they fuckign owns with it

vital pollen
#

its just a high pressure hero

#

against really fucking good supports

errant tusk
#

well people cant give awway beast

#

its agreed that beast is most op hero

#

and people ban nyx vs secret

#

most often

tender fox
#

have they even played beast yet

errant tusk
#

coz zayac plays so good

#

maybe someone will try them

vital pollen
#

you only need 1 ban

errant tusk
#

but beast is agreed to be most op i think

tender fox
#

i mean reso has stomped and won every game he got marci

vital pollen
#

against secret

errant tusk
#

coz every team 1st bans it

vital pollen
#

and thats nyx

errant tusk
#

i guess only vs og

vital pollen
#

marci was agreed upon ban-target in groups

errant tusk
#

people do rly weird bans

vital pollen
#

but not anymore

#

cause OG failed with it twice

errant tusk
#

are people still banning ammar heroes in 1st phase

vital pollen
#

and people realize that marci is super stupid in early game

#

but manageable in mid/late

#

why would you ever ban ammar

errant tusk
#

idk people did that

#

in grp stage

#

every game be marci/beast ban

#

and vs og

vital pollen
#

thats like banning bulldog instead of akke. destined to lose you the game

errant tusk
#

people would ban timber/razor

vital pollen
#

that was the genius of alliance back in the day

#

everybody focusing on bulldogs heropool

#

while akke got ench/chen every game

tender fox
#

i believe in lgd lb run to win it all

vital pollen
#

aster is really good

#

if they win this, which i think they will

#

theyll beat secret

tender fox
#

their potential is just so much higher then the rest, was pretty bad in groups and vs secret though

vital pollen
#

monet is a god-tier carry, he just never got credit for it

#

xxs is the best offlaner in the tournament

#

boboka easily top3 pos4s

#

their only weakness is ori in mid

errant tusk
#

tundra looks good too

vital pollen
#

and they have lanm coaching

#

who is one of the goats

#

lanm coach/burning owner of the team

errant tusk
#

is it 33 doom?

#

cant be

vital pollen
#

i still dont know how to judge siamese cat

#

honestly im expecting

#

safelane doom

#

ck/lich lane

#

mirana roam pos5

errant tusk
#

naa ck is skiter

#

100%

#

its big comfort pick for them

tender fox
#

think they have ran it mid

vital pollen
#

yeah im not super familiar with ck

#

if they doom mid

#

thats no good imo

errant tusk
#

i just dont see 33 hero yet

#

in these

vital pollen
#

yeah but

#

neta plays everything

errant tusk
#

he kinda does

#

but he has iconics

tender fox
#

i mena looks like tundra banned 33 heroes

vital pollen
#

and he plays everything extremely well

tender fox
vital pollen
#

i could see a brew

errant tusk
#

bm/visage

tender fox
#

oh fuck beast is in

errant tusk
#

lycan

#

he likes his zoo heroes

vital pollen
#

ye

#

brew or bm imo

tender fox
#

think last pick beast

errant tusk
#

ye

vital pollen
#

razor mid vs doom

errant tusk
#

im thinking bm too

vital pollen
#

GL

errant tusk
#

but maybe dont wanna pick bm into cm

tender fox
#

ppl seem to think 33 is playing doom though

vital pollen
#

i think you dont wanna play doom vs razor

errant tusk
#

i havent seen him on doom

#

but idk

vital pollen
#

doom is so vulnerable too

#

against marci/cm

errant tusk
#

oh pango

#

so it is 33 doom probably

vital pollen
#

ye

#

psure they swapped

#

and kept the doom as a flex pick

#

expecting it to be mid but not with that razor mid reveal

tender fox
#

saksa potm? thought it was sneykings hero

vital pollen
#

cause aster draft was flexible too

errant tusk
#

ye same

#

weird

vital pollen
#

man

#

mirana artwork

#

vs mirana in game

tender fox
#

the design at the clock is so bad so u cant see if anyone won a game barely PEPW

vital pollen
#

you can but its annoying as fuck for sure

tender fox
#

"lets use the same color beside the dots"

vital pollen
#

boboka gonna have the time of his life top

#

just sad that earthspirit isnt that good atm

#

harpy balanced

#

best possible creep

#

he couldve gotten

#

actually better for monet to die

#

but man

#

this harpy

tender fox
#

fucking harpy dead

vital pollen
#

+mango spam

tender fox
#

7 cs and 2 deaths

#

getting bullied

vital pollen
#

these are the moments where i feel

#

if you replay the game like this after teh first fight

#

10more times

#

they lose that lane top

#

8/10times

#

cause he doesnt get harpy

tender fox
#

2 mangos and arcane boots

#

#

they keep living on 1 hp bot

vital pollen
#

ye

#

razor not TPing

#

way too late

errant tusk
#

aster fucked up big time by not blocking their small camp

vital pollen
#

ye

errant tusk
#

they lost moment 33 got harpy