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Spirit lol
lgd just needs to not be stupid about drafts
let enemies get their best heroes so easily
TA is going to take it, right?
Finals against Puppey, he will lose once again and finally retire
when i woke up eg/TA was already done

and then i went to take a shower and secret-lgd was looking like a giga stomp
ppy feels greedy and will play until he fails to qual to ti or something
he makes ti's
plays good
people want to play with him
why stop?
if he still has drive to play ofc
its rarely that you look at secret and are like
'ye its puppeys fault they lost'
Greedy lol
ye he likes his monies
didnt he ltierally steal money from his teammates
with the turk owner
didnt pay salaries and shit
did he?
early secret days
just ban out entire zayac reso hero pool and easy win
that was not puppey wtf
u think it would have got out that puppey steals money from hsi teammates and anyone would play with him again?
it was teh team manager before they swapped to cyborgmatt
you cant ban reso
in this patch
but zayac only has 1 exceptional hero
you just ban marci/nyx
i think reso's pool feels more expanded in the offlane than ever before
marci nyx primal opening bans
and ure on a good path
the problem if u do that is that lesh gets through
in all honesty its proly better to ban marci primal lesh
and counter the nyx
esp visage teams have an easy time
the new techies is also a huge counter
nowhere on this " article" of twitch stream comments (which i was watching live at that moment btw) states that puppey stole money
poor management with stealing is not the same
but hey you keep eating what they feedin u lol
envy was the piss poor victim in this
which is why he is where he is (alienated from the scene) and puppey is where he is
Game 2 
UB full of stomps so far
boxi just lingers with 1 hp for like 3 minutes and get kills
SF bb for nothing, game slipping away
ye was weird fight was over 3 dead
EU in to the bin
I really do appreciate the lack of downtime.
ye feels very high tempo between matchups
prolly cus they decided to only fly out like 10 ppl

RTZ HAHAHAHAHAH


they all just ignore marci hu
Na dota 
eg 0-4 vs SA in playoff and out inc
1st game
Ah ok
EG out already?
Rtz still can't carry games can he?
Tb is a dogshit hero anyway
game 2 lesgo
first pick storm inc
Don't do it bulba, I beg

marci too weak
CM 
ez 2-0
degens got the most power
saw g2 nothing remarkable
its kinda sad
how abed couldve been one of the best mids of all time
but hell never be considered one cause his heropool consists of 4 heroes
does he only play the spirit heroes or something?
added primal
he doesnt really play anything else
think he is 5-1 with it in ti so far
god lesh is so strong
this patch
bloodstone go brr
why the mjolnir vs naga instead of radiance?
what is radiance gonna do 
I dunno that's why I'm asking isn't radiance an illu counter item?
although watching this, the goal seems to be just ignore the naga and kill everyone else in which case radiance isn't that good
idk abed has not been too impressive on ember this series
artour
Eg gone

kyle is garbage
rtz went bald for this 

thunder awaken wins TI
kyle's fault
🇩🇪

at least the timeline was corrected now
not even the correct amount of total games
smh my head
spot on though, EG crumble
cant wait for EG to remove nightfall, get another offlaner and continue playing the same dota for another year
yeah just unlucky in playoffs
justu nlucky these last 4 years where they havent won anything
is this LGDs year, coming out of the lower bracket?
im not that well versed in the meta but eg losses today seemed to be down to the draft
EG just made history after this loss to BC. It is the first time a team that top the group in TI to not win a single game in playoff.
the taxi tp
dunno, EG drafted the same shit they drafted all tourney
maybe grp A was just dogshit
seeing how all grp B teams went 2-0 in upper bracket
lgd are outfarming them so hard
that bkb from nts
holy fuck
he had dd too
ame drow gameplay is sick
how much he does with so little
love the way nts plays ember. just a facilitator for his team, not the big carry himself
nts god
Was last of the day right
at least u get to wake up early tomorow for og
naga is strong in this patch
oh you mean diff thing i think
yeh I mean Naga is super strong at this patch
so why in hell would you pick naix after the enemy team picked naga
i mean the amount of money the community gives to valve for such shitty quality
but yeah they wont do shit
stop buying compendium
lmao
not bought anything 
only time valve explained sth was when 2gd did legendary shanghai major coz they wanted to expand on china market
ironically
he works again with them
only plus about this ti is that they have a fucking insane tempo between games to get shit going
like no downtime
cant afford their current venue
with the 100 chairs infront of a stage
gotta get out quickly
yeah
the entitlement with people is so fucking insane
"please explain all your business decisions to us, you owe it to us"
bruv, just stop watching/financially supporting the game if its that unwatchable
CSGO played without booths for ages and the complaints about it affecting competitive integrity were minimal
stop giving them money won't do anything though
they'll just shut the game down and you won't have dota anymore
but I agree with you it was a dumb post
valve does not have to explain shit to anyone
then thats what happens. the solution isnt to whine on reddit every day for 5 years, but to provide constructive feedback and try to change things from the inside. instead people keep shitting on slacks for bringing up some points that went right
this community doesnt deserve a good dev
people still think PGL is doing this cause theyre greedy, and not because organizing tournaments of this scale simply isnt profitable
cant wait for PGL to announce theyre no longer doing dota tournaments as theres not enough money in it
ye I mean
riot loses money on their esports division and has for years
I'm with you
reddit so whiney
since the BP dropped really
reddit has been whiney forever
lets be real
i stopped reading poe reddit cause its just a garbage fest
and i didnt read dota one for years either, just started again recently and now i remember why
lots of people with no real world experience (not that i have much to brag about either) or understanding of how these things work
and people genuinely think that its a good idea to have valve foot the bill for all of this shit
when the one thing that made dota great was that its one of the games where you had an endemic esports scene growth, that wasnt subsidized by millions of marketing dollars from the dev of the game
this is how they are so quick 
dunno if thats a feature PGL prepped ot if thats just part of the venue theyre in
seems more like the latter
but the 15y old 1k mmr reddit brains think that the only way to guarantee a satisfying level of soundproofing is with booths
when its not a booth issue, its a audio-engineering one
and that most of the noise you pick up isnt from the headphones not being soundproofed either, but from people using their microphones which will obviously pick up loud background noise
valve fucked up by nto making it seattle event every year
makes logicstics/technical issues almost non existant
Would've always been small event
Key arena renovating definitely caused some issues
I'm not a fan of this traveling ti either. It's nice for fans but it's super hard for producing it well
yea its celebration of dota 2 so kinda makes sense that they are in diff place every time
what about league do they have one studio t hey do everything in?
or how do they do it
But yeah it's moving around
i dont mind valve not caring about dota anymore
that would mean people that genuinely care might step in
or game dies
its their IP in the end
they can juts close the game down
wont be the same if they dont keep throwing battle pases for boosting prize pool
and i mean its free moeny for them they wont just shut it down
maybe, its like 0.1% for them anyway i bet
100 mill dollars every year is not nothing
they could also not even give 25% away
and have 100% for themselves instead of 75%
win/win 
ppl wont buy unless some go to players
people will buy
actually surprised the low split has been accepted for so long
ofc
people want skins
people love them
i have so many friends that buy them 1st day without even checking out whats in there
and they're level 500-600
insta day 1
coz they just care about having stuff
i guess, but i think they still will gain more from giving a sum away to prize pool due to others wanna contribute for that specific purpose
also if you wanna support players jut ask them for paypal and give them
actually give them 100%
not 25% 
if valve drops 'release new hero' benchmark for 30 mil spent on bp
or w/e other goal
people will start dropping a lot
i mean people will give them money
yeah
ye ofc, you can see it in other games like overwatch ppl will spend on battle pass even though it goes to nothing
people saying "i buy battlepass to support TI" are just lying to themselves
they want the skins
wanna support OG? buy OG merch
i think people that buy only bp with 0 levels kinda wanna support ti
the whales will whale anyway
and buy 1k levels
but imo i think they still earn more money valve that is by only taking 75% for exampel than 100% cus it will amass in more spending in total
the way i see it
its very likely that valve wanted a TI in asia
cause the only other big event we ever had there, was shanghai major
so they chose singapore
which is probably the worst place to have a tournament
cause its ridiculously expensive
Kinda hope one of the SA teams wins it all
and we now have to deal with the fact that PGL won the bid for organizing an event that they mightve simply expected to be a lot cheaper than it turned out to be
Would be cool
im also guessing PGL doesnt have the same amount of contacts and contractors at their beck and call as they do in the US/europe
quality differences between events is to be expected
world cup in qatar wont be the same as one in france or germany
when PGL joined the TOs that did dota2 tourneys, they were hyped as the best thing to ever happen to dota
manila major is still hailed as one of the best events ever. that was PGLs first dota2 major
boston/kiev major were great, so was ti6
Cause ESL is even more profit oriented than pgl 
ye
this ti will always be tainted by players hearing casters
i think
the results are tainted because of it
at least i see it that way
and rng getting unlucky
thats 2 most impactful out of players hands
Yeah
things
They'll learn from it
that changed course of the tournament
i dont think we've ever had hearing casters thing
2gd at both of them

which is the issue
Ye
It just needs fixing by a good engineer
but hearing casters when they just play by play calm cast is very concerning
Different mics/headphones
Turning down venue speakers
With how many people complained today
I'm guessing it'll be fixed/a lot better tomorrow
And a non issue for the final games
Still, the results are fucked as a result imo
so secret had maphack vs lgd first day 
according to stormstormer
WHAT
LOL WHAT
one player said it in post game interview
also some chinese players said they could hear but couldnt understand ofc
Hooooooooly
coz they dont speak english
gaimin gladiators said it, in coms a call was, "i heard they had dd, dont take a fight"
Imagine in comms “stfu guys stfu i need to hear what other team is doing”
ye possibly it was them then
That is some clown shit wow
Failure of a ti
Imagine losing cause not fluent in english
aster got the memo and started to study english terms for their game vs liquid 
yea thats by far worst thing
today thed added earphones and headphones over with white noise
and they didnt clean them or anything so the team after got some full of earwax and stuff

Imagine that hour long game from entity
Entire late game they are silent
Trying to hear where enemy team is
Very sad
Well you need to talk for the mics to pick up the casting, unless you just run open mic but then you hear it all the time
they just turnt on the heat
ye
that little play by monkey and invoker in top
where they picked up the kill on silencer
then forced tp
tp'd back themselves and then forced the favorable fight
beauty
started that whole snowball
OG at their best
CEEEBBBB
just had to get that rune...
yuragi knows how to toss a game away by dying 3x in a row
nah
game was over at that point
yuragi got infest bombed like 3x for no reason
Well ye
they had the game in the bag then he got infest bombed while solo pushing lol
legit 3x
another notable team about to get eliminated or
Gg Choke
no aegis for u
that bkb timing
wheres the dmg breakdown after fight, wonder how much jakiro is doing
Lol
Gay men 😏
wait is that the meme of their name or
BZM WTF
ye
he was feeling it a little too much
toying with kunkka got him in some type of mood
i mean he tried to buy time with aegis for his team to take bottom rax but
yeah
was actually fine if he just had bkb
they just cant kill anyone in gg
i think he means gg not able to kill anyone on og
ye to much disengage and defensive spells like ice wall, path etc
and no burst on gg
song
That was a legit game.
I was honestly a Sand King hater.
but Amars stuns were on point.
they just outlast the fights
bzm looks too comfortable on invoker lol
The set up on stuns between him, the path, even setting up with Naga
actually so fluid
smooth gameplay nice to watch
Time to make breakfast before next bo3
That was a hype Bo3. BZM was a monster there too lol.
The refresher fountain dive to send it off.
but ye lot of cancer on the ground in that comp
ice path
ice wall
sandstorm
holy moly fuck off mate
aw man that wholesome mom and dad moment

bkb ac silverblade kka just did 0 dmg
once bkb ends you just wanna neck yourself
daedalus oneshots where 
TI games have been pretty hype so far, I'm afraid we're wasting all the hype games, GF is gonna be a 3 0 stomp or something
lol
idk i havent watched too much main stage wasnt a lot of games just stomps 2-0
wasnt that the first 2-1 
ye
how do you go from win groups to 0-4 quick elimination in playoffs 
is there an anymore EG thing to do
maybe get to gf go 2-0 then get reverse swept after "?"
GG paid their indecisiveness to push top lane
after they got it to 30% after htey got the aegis
They were doomed the moment Kyle said EG was hot.
game could have ended there
The Kyle Curse is fucking real.
instead they move mid and get ultra caught
they could have won this
naga barely had manta then
wtf yuragi has pretty good english
Ammar interviews are my fav
english team so bound to learn
jordan
jordanye
bzm bulgaria, taiga norweigan
i mean u gotta speak english so u can communicate with all 
ceb tutored them
It's always surprising to me a lot of the chinese mainstays never learned a little bit of english for an interview or two.
or at least to talk shit. 
liquid, thunder, aster wins next games
apparently 3 beastcoast players got covid also
is there ti disband table already?
https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Main_Page not rly but here u can see ppl kicked etc
og apparently got a new analyst yday

entity such weird drafting compared to rest
have there even been a pudge main stage yet
nah ppl only spam sf that is like 1-9 now
how greedy is their draft though
naga slardar arc
oh and tiny that needs his blink
and effectively no punish yet
as i say it it starts LUL
every secret fan needs entity in lower bracket
cause they cant beat them
Bara just reks slard
Zai enigma again huh...
Finally pudge
ho ho ha ha
what is pudge doing there with bkb on cd
its liquid past minute 20
they dont know how to play the game
if thye dont have a 10-15k networth lead by minute20
I mean they only got magic dmg cus lina didnt go right click
Big mistake
Cant kill blackhole ppl if bkb etc
dont see how liquid can win this
Enigma cant do much
supports cant do anything
Unless some big 4 or 5 man
Some first pick cm
Dont wanna give away to much early
liquid banned him but it could have been another ho ho ha ha game for entity
Nah pudge is for pure
san er yi jiayou ❗
boxi gonna first hit bash all game now
choo choo
broodmother

Matu got this
idk why micke keeps going on puck during the fights when 4 other liquid members clearly go on other targets
for good reasons
Its just over if pudge or puck get blackholed
just have either 1 coiled
stormstormer bought wrong item
he should've went wind waker
or someone in general should've from their team
they need save for bh
What does windwaker even do never seen it

sometimes people go for it vs puck so you can break coil without stunning yourself
Over
bara mvp
why is puck not cancelling BH with ult

literally just sitting there throwing orbs
completely useless in the fights
and the one thing hes supposed to do, he isnt doing
Isnt bkb pierce removed
BOXI IS SUCH A BALLER
maybe the magic immunity pierce only goes on the snap?
and not the ministun?
but thatd be weird
and useless
black hole too stronk
Would be over so much sooner if Zai just rushed bkb
god bless flax
Also yday was done in like 1.5h yday and today its just half way 
More 6headed
CAP
Drowndont feel like a crystallis hero
gorp keep calling thunder awaken for tundra or thunder predators 
TA look really good actually
playing sloppy now though
why do pango blind initiate with roll
instead of letting mars and just roll in the ult
leshrac gaming
Mars missed to many ults and died when ahead
insanely based person
not this patch

this patch is very very good
hmm an hour till the next game
Ye it's fun
esp since 7.32b no void every single fucking game
ER
c patch actually was the void/refresher changes
them doomed drafts
they are gonna fuck up with their minds too
with this silencer
that it could be 3 again
with 4 marci
oh there's a game
or marci 3 with silencer 5
wait, leshrac is still up?
Wake up earlier
TI isn’t up whole year
such a shame crystalis is too weak for t1 dota
and secret wont make it to ti with him ;/
lmfao nix
what are these ravages
Literally being carried so hard 
sure 
top2 for secret this year
they're already top 3 right?
top3 is secured
i mean crystallis is not worthless but he is far from good, like these games he do nothing but afk farm first 30 minutes while nisha and reso runs around and carries the game and he is still like 5-6th on networth
i have legit no idea how he is so inefficient with so much space
its like when matu played in secret when they peaked, he wasnt ever star
he just needs to not fuck up
it was zai/nisha being best
and its same scenario
crystalis is far less experienced ofc
but that system works best for secret historically when their mid/off has good games
well im glad this slark didnt participate in any fight
entire mid fight around t1
all of secret 20% hp
slark is top jungle farming medium camp and lane creeps
entity could be a good team if they bring a 5th player
0 impact
but dear god tobi was useless all tournament
while enemy carry fights

i mean
or rtzs
miracle just got sucekd off hard in his team
idk why people ev er hyped him up this hard
i mena just imagine someone like pure with this space in secret
he was the only mid who got pos1 farm priority as a mid player
"wow hes outfarming everybody, insane"
that slark reminded me of an online friend
ignoring messages for 20 mins
yeah cuz matu played a fear-carry
(couldn't resist)
ye
theyre very like LGD
skiter, slovakia lets go
+BEST PLAYER OF THAT ROLE
stormstormer is NTS 2.0
= BETTER TEAM
sacrificial mid that plays to set up fights/control tempo, not to do flashy plays/carry games
the only difference between entity and lgd
is that lgd has a pos3
that gets shit done
while tobi doesnt do shit all game
other than feed spiderlings on brood
it feel kinda similar though cus nisha+reso dont really soak up all farm they often leave like half the map for crystallis these last games they mostly just fight at least
i dunno just saying secret would be so much better with a carry that actually could use the space
at least in qualifiers where i watched all games unlike now i remember crystalis being sent to deadlanes
and work with scraps
ye
and theyh send reso to triangle + easy lane
so ofc
he is gonna get way more when he is on the better half of the map
dont know now, not watching all games
xxs vs neta, offlane gods
nah crystallis is still the matu/fear of secret
getting shitty lanes
crystalis was not stomping lanes he was supposed to stomp
with mid-game impact heroes
in quals
mostly heroes with spell-based impact, not farm-based one
well ofc he isnt as good as matu/fear
but if he manages to ever reach matu level
where you have to carry almost every game
he's gonna be very desired player
secret is still a fresh team
he played like drow first game an was losing cs to a pango with like 15 vs 40
because there is so many ego flashy mids

worst carry to last hit with probably 
if you play into a hero you cant orbwalk pressure out of lasthit range
ye but hte sad part is that he was like 15 vs 0
first lvls
then just missed everything
for like 6 waves
ye should play laning stage better i agree
but still system works for them and he will improve
thats also on the support tho
its just like old liquid
supports constantly sucking mid-dick
just like ppd back in the day for sumail
or crit/fly for abed
or jerax back then for miracle
they just abandon safelane early
to help their mid
i dont htink crystallis is that kind of player though he just gets that role cus he isnt rly performing
why would you even want him to be that guy in that team
now he just needs to learn the strats
you need a moldable youngster
and hes doing a good job at that
he still sucks at times, ofc
like everybody else
its like they tried it with iltw in nigma
where they'd pick him luna or tb
but still suck miracles dick on mid
why
you are just wasting time
tundra potm first phase 24/7
thats why crystallis morph doesnt work coz that hero actually needs lots of resources
also i think crystalis isnt good on the hero
ye
- idk if he tilts or sth
same for TB
coz he always gets killed with shift stuff
TB is a hero where every minute you can stay on lane longer
idk if tilt
is crucial
but crystallis tb is often pushed out of lane
by minute 6 or 7
and then his game is dead
honestly idk why ever give morph in secret to someone else than nisha
he has such good morph
ye
idk
i htink secret could swap lanes a lot
reso is a god-tier mid player, at least he used to be, and a very very good carry
i remember crystallis morph mid 
nishe can play 1/2
ye crystalis shouldnt play morph
and you can give crystallis some mars or razor 3
he isnt good on the hero or gets tilted/stressed out idfk
well people cant give awway beast
its agreed that beast is most op hero
and people ban nyx vs secret
most often
have they even played beast yet
you only need 1 ban
but beast is agreed to be most op i think
i mean reso has stomped and won every game he got marci
against secret
coz every team 1st bans it
and thats nyx
i guess only vs og
marci was agreed upon ban-target in groups
people do rly weird bans
are people still banning ammar heroes in 1st phase
and people realize that marci is super stupid in early game
but manageable in mid/late
why would you ever ban ammar
thats like banning bulldog instead of akke. destined to lose you the game
people would ban timber/razor
that was the genius of alliance back in the day
everybody focusing on bulldogs heropool
while akke got ench/chen every game
i believe in lgd lb run to win it all
aster is really good
if they win this, which i think they will
theyll beat secret
their potential is just so much higher then the rest, was pretty bad in groups and vs secret though
monet is a god-tier carry, he just never got credit for it
xxs is the best offlaner in the tournament
boboka easily top3 pos4s
their only weakness is ori in mid
tundra looks good too
and they have lanm coaching
who is one of the goats
lanm coach/burning owner of the team
i still dont know how to judge siamese cat
honestly im expecting
safelane doom
ck/lich lane
mirana roam pos5
think they have ran it mid
i mena looks like tundra banned 33 heroes
and he plays everything extremely well

i could see a brew
bm/visage
oh fuck beast is in
think last pick beast
ye
razor mid vs doom
im thinking bm too
GL
but maybe dont wanna pick bm into cm
ppl seem to think 33 is playing doom though
i think you dont wanna play doom vs razor
ye
psure they swapped
and kept the doom as a flex pick
expecting it to be mid but not with that razor mid reveal
saksa potm? thought it was sneykings hero
cause aster draft was flexible too
the design at the clock is so bad so u cant see if anyone won a game barely 
you can but its annoying as fuck for sure
"lets use the same color beside the dots"
boboka gonna have the time of his life top
just sad that earthspirit isnt that good atm
harpy balanced
best possible creep
he couldve gotten
actually better for monet to die
but man
this harpy
fucking harpy 
+mango spam
these are the moments where i feel
if you replay the game like this after teh first fight
10more times
they lose that lane top
8/10times
cause he doesnt get harpy
aster fucked up big time by not blocking their small camp
ye
they lost moment 33 got harpy

















