yeah for sure
#Dota
buoyant sage
ye but it would last too much time ig
vital pollen
hmye
hope the frog does smth about the excessive creep pulling we're seeing
the fuck is LGD doing 
rocky moon
the fuck is LGD doing <:kekdog:907207037757296710>
Giving NA hope
torn girder
Ame 
rocky moon
I’ve heard they are doing poorly in LoL worlds
vital pollen
torn girder
I’ve heard they are doing poorly in LoL worlds
NA never does good in LoL
buoyant sage
they didnt ban Marci
torn girder
EU is shit in that game too
buoyant sage
hehe
vital pollen
what does NA do well in?
rocky moon
NA never does good period
buoyant sage
what does NA do well in?
shooting each others
buoyant sage
versed matrix
so many games played before I wake up 😿
torn girder
Dw mostly 1-1
buoyant sage
I like SA teams tho
rocky moon
Then lose rq
Rtz is a tilter and meh player imo
torn girder
Lgd looks weaker than probably expected
rocky moon
He will drag eg down once again
buoyant sage
torn girder
Eg gonna go undefeated in groups but then get knocked out in 2 series in playoffs
versed matrix
xinq wash his face yet?
torn girder
Rtz is a tilter and meh player imo
Think bulba is big noob
The abed storm spirit meme exists for a reason
rocky moon
It looks over already, doesn’t it
versed matrix
just limit testing
vital pollen
well now we know what happens
when you give the enemy team the best pos1, 3, 4 and 5 hero in the meta
vital pollen
yeah
even after the lv20 talent nerf
just the strongest lategame carry and with the buffs to time dilation hes strong in lane too
comeback time
versed matrix
yeah, no
rocky moon
You are slightly ahead, Armenian internet is quite shit sadly
torn girder
Ye
rocky moon
Russian cast is flawless
vital pollen
typically has been ye
whenever esl or pgl had major production problems
rucast often had no issues
but yeah its crazy how this match would be completely different if abed doesnt get away mid with 10hp twice
with regen bottled up
rocky moon
Nice escape
rocky moon
LOL typically Arthur
torn girder
Lgd comeback time
rocky moon
Why teams keep rtz around I don’t get
vital pollen
its a symbiotic relationship
with bulba
they both protect each other
rtz/Abed like bulba cause bulba lets them play the heroes they want to play
and bulba likes these people cause hes a trash drafter but gets to stay in a "top" org as a result
lgd doing a good job skipping waves tho
eg rarely in a position to press their advantage
rocky moon
Poor puck
vital pollen
i mean its good tho
versed matrix
bkb 1st item on pos 4 💤
vital pollen
enigma using the BH to drop him multiple times
ame is farming really well despite the 3 deaths
torn girder
Ye
Always impressive to watch him and yatoro somehow pull stuff like this off in abysmal games
vital pollen
EG is getting these kills but theyre not really getting anything out of it
y solokills rtz in the base
torn girder
Lmfao
Lich solo
Tbh dont see why primal beast could have not been pos 3 and doom 4
vital pollen
this is probably game now
cause they can finally push highground with chrono+blackhole
torn girder
This primal would have probably had more impact as 3 and doom would have had same impact as 4
Just blink doom
All hes done all game
His nw giving him little actual influence on the game
vital pollen
EG is just getting outplayed
on the map
their lane pressure is just non existant
top lane never goes beyond the river
bot lane is w/e
11-34, 1k networth difference
vital pollen
ye
versed matrix
fly playing carry this game
vital pollen
crit as well
vital pollen
both support should break smokes so much more
but instead they think
"i have a good game, got bkb on marci i carry now"
versed matrix
yeah thats what I was thinking
why is ember frontlining in an obvious smoke
just a few secs before
vital pollen
its funny when you compare
how nts just takes all the attention
in the early and mid
baits chronos/blackholes on himself
so the rest of the team can safely push out the sidelanes
buoyant sage
aghanim
versed matrix
you doom yourself and its aoe aura?
versed matrix
didnt see the 1st game but eg got quite outplayed in a lot of places this game
vital pollen
EG is struggling to keep their lanes pushed
torn girder
Ye this game taking too long
versed matrix
no lane/base pressure all game
vital pollen
you have puck/slark/primal just clearing waves
theyre sitting in triangle with 4heroes
with blackhole ready
while LGD farms all 3 lanes
versed matrix
xd
rocky moon
god on rtz
buoyant sage
tbh I always loved rtz
rocky moon
He is bad
buoyant sage
idk I watched his stream when he had like 200 viewers tops
versed matrix
I always thought he was cringe
buoyant sage
always like him
versed matrix
and im glad hes never won anything
rocky moon
Inconsistent and most games useless
buoyant sage
Im just almost sure that he lost a lot of level when he switched from mid to carry
but thats only a feeling, just feels like it
versed matrix
how is puck top nw
rocky moon
50 minutes of fun as a viewer
torn girder
When doom made move on fv
vital pollen
he just got refresher blackholed
torn girder
Meme game
vital pollen
the fact they came back from that and almost won
torn girder
Xiao8 making bets looks like
vital pollen
and like
it was super close in so many situations
if they get a bit lucky on some of these ganks
theyre super fine
buoyant sage
yee
vital pollen
i just wanna watch more maybe
torn girder
Diffusal early pressure carry is good answer to morph i think
buoyant sage
true
saw it coming
played against a naga the other day
what a pain in the ass
been so much time I played against that hero
torn girder
What naga prediction
torn girder
Ah ye
buoyant sage
top 5 banned heroes so far
I get the Batrider ban, hero is a pain and quite strong these days
But isn't it hard counter VS shit like SD or Abba
vital pollen
just does very well against a lot of common mid heroes atm
so no mid wants to play vs it
errant tusk
bat is too abusive on lane
buoyant sage
Yeh I get it too but Idk I always pick shit like SD, Abbadon and such
errant tusk
abba is trash 5
vital pollen
its just too strong in lane
buoyant sage
Abba pos 3 
tender fox
Isnt bat often just played in side lanes now?
torn girder
Nah its an abusive laner
buoyant sage
neh it's mid
torn girder
Just gets a good game most of the time then just solo’s the game
torn girder
Sd situational i think
buoyant sage
yeh idk, you get to save team mate + ulti over bkb
depends on your setup as a team too ig, as usual
torn girder
Problem isn’t even the lasso necessarily if the bat isn’t shit you have no mid laner for the game
buoyant sage
true
torn girder
Theres a lot of matchups you just can’t play the game lol
Pretty much any melee
Might as well go jungle
buoyant sage
slark does well only cause he can purge himself lul
well, it does okay
not well
morphling again
aaah
it's been 2 months in a row Im instant banning it in game
every game
tender fox
gorp tierlist 
torn girder
Disrespectful list
vital pollen
bat is just annoying as fuck
cause he just rushes travels
witchblade
and then he does
5million dmg
with napalm+firefly+witchblade
torn girder
Gorp probably constructed this list after watching lgd go 1–3 first 2 series
versed matrix
enchantress pos5 🐸
vital pollen
somnus 1man show again
errant tusk
too many games
torn girder
Spirit looks pretty good ye
errant tusk
its liquid factor
torn girder
Their 1 loss was pretty close too
errant tusk
sometimes play good sometimes play bad
torn girder
Ye idk only convincing weu team there is is og rn
Others can either shit on opponent or get rolled 2-0 in 1 hour real quick
torn girder
Maybe
buoyant sage
100% EU dotka
errant tusk
not rly that suprising tho that og/spirit look solid
buoyant sage
buoyant sage
yes sir
torn girder
OG young roster might crack under pressure on stage
errant tusk
they were 3rd one everyone would expect to do well
torn girder
But they’ve won majors already
errant tusk
they have ceb/notail behind
torn girder
Ye
errant tusk
not saying the wont crack
torn girder
I am hoping lgd makes a better showing
Would be a shame for them to fall even before grand final
buoyant sage
ye china is under represented
torn girder
Nah lgd is just highly revered
High skill high discipline
Just good gameplay always
vital pollen
i mean
torn girder
But tbh cis is trash region rn
vital pollen
but yeah that AM did nothing this game
errant tusk
nah vp is a good team i think
torn girder
Extremely inconsistent besides like spirit
vital pollen
ghost still trying to throw the game
errant tusk
just their players are morons
babies
gpk is a human garbage
good at the game
but he is someone you'd haven o issues punching irl
over his internet warrior shit
vp never lacked skill
when you think about it
even their old golden team with noone/solo/ramzes
where they won lots of majors but fell short on tis it was always in their heads and still is
vital pollen
like
i lowkey just want maybe to win TI
hahahah
look at him
with the fucking
cat-ear headphones
vital pollen
this is what peak performance looks like
errant tusk
im very glad someone finally picked titan into morph
how can you be this stupid to never do it
i dont understand
vital pollen
yeah
vital pollen
im guessing youll see it more from the teams
that can actually play ET on pos 3-5
theres a few
vital pollen
errant tusk
add pudge to that list maybe
vital pollen
fml
errant tusk
are teams stupid or what
why do they let marci go through 1st phase
ever
im amazed anyone is doing it
vital pollen
yeah
torn girder
Dunno
torn girder
People testing if they can beat things
vital pollen
marci/enigma are 100% ban
errant tusk
hopefully its only testing
coz i think marci/enigma are beyond broken
but marci especially
at least enigma you can a little bit adress
but marci is even a flex
can be played for 2-3-4-5 position, maybe even 1 if you rly want to
tight sluice
wasn't marci played 1 in LCQ?
versed matrix
wtf is this liquid game
tight sluice
hero is nutty
versed matrix
cant really farm as pos1 no?
errant tusk
you build alwayts same items
torn girder
The character presses ult and kills people
errant tusk
bkb/basher
torn girder
It is ridiculous
errant tusk
strongest powerspike in entire game
maybe if you play 1 you build armlet aswell before?
for extra burst
dont know
maybe not good coz you delay your bkb
torn girder
I think its not good pos 1 but if you have to flex maybe
Best as a greedy supp
The sidekick spell is stupid op too
I remember watching an mk get sidekicked and boundless a wave
And full heal
errant tusk
na its not that good 1
but you could flex
people played dawn 1 last TI too
which wasnt ideal
but worked for them
torn girder
I like dawn 1 more than marci 1
The way they played dawn 1 was really dope
It was mostly vp
errant tusk
ye it was vp
torn girder
They’d play wisp storm
Really cool global strat
3 members of your team can just be where ever whenever
vital pollen
the saddest part about marci is
that the shard is really good
but people dont play it a lot
crit played it earlier against LGD and it kinda saved them the game
torn girder
Spirit setting up either acquiring morph or fv for cataclysm
vital pollen
lesh aghs needs a nerf
torn girder
Fv 
torn girder
Hope they ban morph
Morph seems like pure cancer to play against
As void
You chrono the guy then he shifts strength and you do nothing
Plus you have 1 less item of attack speed cause he has aghs and he morphed you
Ok good morph banned
tender fox
Seli, BB best team 
vital pollen
You chrono the guy then he shifts strength and you do nothing
or you play ET on top and place the spirit in the chrono and then morph just melts
alpine wren
tender fox
Stockholm
buoyant sage
I just know the city
close friend of mine is a freelance technical director and knows a lot of production studios
burnt basin
anyone watching TI?
buoyant sage
ofc
burnt basin
EG looking seriously strong
buoyant sage
in the group stage
they almost threw X times against psg
they will at some point anyway
burnt basin
i mean, i dont remember the last tie that EG actually got wins that convincingly
those throws can be adjusted
rtz in rare form is what i mean
though i guess theri drafting does seem better than in the past
its crazy how different games look if primal beast in not in the game though
it is day and night
burnt basin
yes
buoyant sage
not saying they're trash
errant tusk
its only 1st day of grp stage ofc
burnt basin
primal does not look like a dota hero....
errant tusk
so not getting too excited
burnt basin
all his abilities could be ultimates
burnt basin
yes
errant tusk
most of the games should be ties
burnt basin
im gonna be on the puppey copium train till he wins his second
and i do think nisha is the best player in the world
errant tusk
but yea hopefully lgd picks up after slow start
buoyant sage
they only won against PSG because they had chrono+black hole
they almost lost that game
buoyant sage
absolutely
burnt basin
tbh
errant tusk
everyone expected lgd to dominate and have close to perfect score
same for og/spirit
burnt basin
u just want to have them on the other side of the bracket come playoffs
cause i dont see lgd losing before winners bracket finals
thats why i think EG is kind of a dark horse
and given the fact that drow is also good this patch
errant tusk
after you go into playoffs you have to beat everyone anyway
burnt basin
technically thats not true
u just have to win 3 matches
u can be in the grand finals after 3 bo3s
which is crazy
burnt basin
i mean sure but u dont have ot play everyone
its how chinese teams have been doing it
ist how OG won ti9
they ltierally played 4 series
errant tusk
was same with 8
coz they never got droppped down to lower bracket
they just did clean sweep in upper bracket
burnt basin
ye
its what the strongest chinese team also does most of the times
and its one of the reasons they end up falling short
cause the strongest chinese team in the region has an easy way every year
they are ahead by miles of the competition
but europe is a bloodbath
so ure used to adversity
i remember when there were 3-4 strong chinese teams dominating everyone
burnt basin
now china revolves aronud league
was it 2018 or 2019 that secret was unstoppable?
and they won almost everything?
burnt basin
before that
buoyant sage
bzm
errant tusk
void spirit just dies
buoyant sage
errant tusk
buoyant sage
impatient young fella
burnt basin
i mean
buoyant sage
well theres the Puppey factor, stubborn to pick the same thing over and over even after getting countered 
errant tusk
ye probably closest to it
buoyant sage
they were
burnt basin
well theres the Puppey factor, stubborn to pick the same thing over and over eve...
u know what i think
it was a rushed move to kick sumail
cause the problem was clearly x3ice
as soon as that dude was gone secret changed
but now they are stuck with foreheadguy
errant tusk
they made 3 changes
buoyant sage
maybe, Idk, I like SumaiL but it feels like it's very hard to play with that guy
idk
errant tusk
think secret is doing fine
burnt basin
i mean crystallis can play 2 heroes...
burnt basin
ye but the difference is those heroes were actually on their position
playing razor 1 was a niche situational thing that happened cause of how strong he was in correlation with the items he bought
forcing razor 1 now...
i feel bad for nisha having to do everything
errant tusk
idk whats the issue tho, secret did what they needed to do
maybe they bomb out last place TI
burnt basin
they cnat win
errant tusk
then yea there is things to worry about
because they shouldnt be able to win
with 3 player swaps
2-3 months before ti
burnt basin
losing to the team u took their carry from, so convincingly
and their new carry looking 10 times better than crystallis
buoyant sage
buyback fest yaaaaaa
burnt basin
i think its worrisome imo
buoyant sage
errant tusk
ye team that made 1 player swap vs team that did 3 player swaps
also secret wasnt even held that much by their play
burnt basin
btw listening to gorg trying to cast a game is so funny
errant tusk
their drafting was bad
burnt basin
lmao
errant tusk
everyone's drafting was bad besides entity
in that qualifier
entity was ahead on that
burnt basin
yes
exactly
its also a hero pool thing
not everyone can play visage 3
and the funny thing is
errant tusk
comfort is big too
burnt basin
u dont even have to ban crystallis' hero pool
errant tusk
isnt secret doing better than eneity so far tho
burnt basin
u want them to pick razor or mk
errant tusk
i dont even know
burnt basin
easier ot win that way
burnt basin
i dont even know
nah not rly
burnt basin
i mean
errant tusk
so why not flame entity that they didnt evolve
errant tusk
whereas secret improved a fuckton
they comfortably got through LCQ
their hardest game was vs XG
burnt basin
to be clear im a HUGE secret fan
burnt basin
i jsut think crystallis is a problem
the yfound he can also play sf great
its prolly the reason the ycan win
but i cant see another razor/mk 1
its not even flexable
errant tusk
i dont see issue myself yet because its brand new team and at least my view is how can you have expectations of a brand new team to be insta the best
burnt basin
and they work great around the others
buoyant sage
yuragi controlled for approximately 500 seconds
burnt basin
u rly need to go and watch secret early game in a vod or sth. crystallis is missing cs on hsi own, positions badly, makes bad calls on when to go in or get out...
they are winning in spite of him
abed in rare form
and rtz is the type of player that if he starts winning he keeps winning
mental is rly important
errant tusk
im just going with angle of its unrealistic to expect a complete rookie like crystalis to do well in a team that is expected to be the best and maybe its too much for him
im just giving him lots of benefit of the doubt
buoyant sage
yeh im on the same side
errant tusk
and i treat it as end product too, they made TI
they made last chance qualifier 1st
and TI
so thats good
burnt basin
i guess ure not wrong
like i said i think his fundamentals are bad
and that does not have to do with being a rookie or not
btw im not talking out of my ass, i am immortal player, not THAT good ofc but i have been 6k
last year
this year im stuck around 5,7
i wish secret had a naga player
errant tusk
nisha can play naga
burnt basin
but who plays mid then
errant tusk
reso
errant tusk
ye
they had game where he went mid
100%
dont remember which one
also reso used to play 1
not sure if he played mid
burnt basin
ik ye
errant tusk
he probably played mid too
burnt basin
but crystallis cant play 3 i think
errant tusk
at some point
burnt basin
reso started as midlaner
errant tusk
i know he played carry in empire/that DC team
in empire when he was standing in
maybe even with miposhka
looong time ago
errant tusk
nisha can play all the positions too
burnt basin
2013?
errant tusk
dont remember
burnt basin
he was like 18 or sth
errant tusk
i know lots of the polish 'semi' pro players lets say
and nisha used to play 5/4
played mid/1 too
back in the shit t2-t3 teams
think he only didnt rly play offlane
but probably could pick it up
burnt basin
having flex cores is super important
i just hope crystallis picks up a couple of other heroes in the offseason
cause razor sf drow is zero skill
so it battlefury braindead famring mk
have u spent any money on the battle pass?
burnt basin
i want the void and rzor arcanas but i cant excuse the amount u have to give for what u get
errant tusk
so i dont buy
burnt basin
ye
errant tusk
i bought the spectre one
burnt basin
like, u had ot spend the same for wr arcana
but u got a shit ton of shit for it as well
errant tusk
and i didnt play when wk/wr/qop arcana was around
burnt basin
getting out personas for heroes that have arcanas
is so low effort its disgusting
btw u have seen what the razor and void arcana are based on right?
another low effort shit
tight sluice
I know
burnt basin
hm why does it not show
tight sluice
and WK is the same skin he used to have in dota 2 before blizz got in their feels
burnt basin
yes
but i can understand that one
even if its a bit .... eek
but this 😛 cmon bruh
burnt basin
its basically built into the battle pass i think?
lets see if u cna see it now without downloading
yep
look at this shit XD
tacit epoch
I do like the razor arcana tho
burnt basin
warcraft 3 models made into 200 euro arcanas
ye i like the concept image too
no idea how its gonna look in game though
tacit epoch
Don't think I can grind to lvl 300 or whatever the razor requirement is
errant tusk
i might have hot take on arcanas
but i think every arcana should be 30-40$ in shop
ofc i get why they do bp shit
burnt basin
thats not a hot take
burnt basin
its how it used to be
then the yrealised people are dumb and would pay hella more for them
burnt basin
can u imagine the inflation if they were sellable
errant tusk
its just mtx
burnt basin
since every account is free
errant tusk
i dont rly care for them as much myself
tacit epoch
Does the low drop chance for an arcana after a match still exist?
tacit epoch
I remember ppl got PA arcana
burnt basin
yep
you konw what my hope is
even if its gonna fuck up with the community and teh talent atm
u follow the riot route, block all leechers
keep ur product, market it better
and BRING IN THE FUCKIN HON TEAM TO SAVE THE GAME
ice frog is gone
tacit epoch
I don't get why some skins are super expensive tho
burnt basin
we all see that right
tacit epoch
Like the enigma skin costs more than 30€ arcanas
tacit epoch
One sec
burnt basin
twisted maelstrom?
tacit epoch
Like I demo'd the skin and it didn't have special ability effects
burnt basin
and the chest itself cannot be bought anymore
tacit epoch
Except for the small dudes I think
burnt basin
its rare, its a collectible
tacit epoch
Ah so exclusivity
burnt basin
yes
nothing from those chests are marketable or sellable except for the ultra rare set ( which was the enigma)
tacit epoch
Idk I think the 8€ gloves for enigma are more worth
Give black hole an awesome effect
burnt basin
ngl im not sure even thats worth
tacit epoch
Maybe
burnt basin
cause dota isnt like league
u cant just spam one hero
every day all day
i mean u can but u will want to kill urself
tacit epoch
I know the Mirana head piece is pretty worth
burnt basin
there are actual counter match ups that destroy u
(that is before enigma has become uber busted lets not forget)
back in 2018 he was ass
tacit epoch
Both immortal head pieces cost less than 1€
burnt basin
oh for sure
tacit epoch
And give a cool ultimate effect
tacit epoch
Yeah💀
But I tend to build some skin sets with stuff that costs like 10c
You can build some cheap good looking skins
burnt basin
oh dont get it wrong
i kind of a whale
but i cant spend too much
like, i have all arcanas and almost all immortal items
but the things id ont have and i didnt get from the BPs
i wont pay valve extra money via the market
tacit epoch
Fair
burnt basin
and this year BP is not worth it
only 2 immortal treasure boxes and one wont release until november
like, what?
tacit epoch
Idk I only buy the 8€ baseline and see how far I can get with that
So for me it's kinda worth it
burnt basin
u aint wrong ye, there are some pretty cool low cost full sets too
noone saw that XD
tacit epoch
👀
burnt basin
the one set i want and i didnt get because i wasnt around a computer when those caches came out
is the darkheart pursuit NS set
but its only giftable and i dont know anhyone that has an extra to make a trade with
sad things
tight sluice
but i think every arcana should be 30-40$ in shop
that isn't a hot take
it's literally cringe that they lock arcanas behind BP
burnt basin
btw hokori is stomping huh
burnt basin
they are rolling over GG
tight sluice
but it's shitty
burnt basin
pudge pos 1 so strong
if u cnat play it u cant get top 4 this year XD
every dota player's nightmare. having pudge be viable
i think group B is free if secret get serious
all the favorites are in group A
its gonna thin out winners bracket real early
spirit secret 1-2 kinda group
tight sluice
every dota player's nightmare. having pudge be viable
cmon post TII
ruin pudge
fucking hero in every game if I do not ban him
tender fox
eg actually securing ub day1
versed matrix
dont think ive seen troll win ever
tender fox
errant tusk
pudge pos 1 so strong
ye agreed
pudge would be in 70% of the games even if he was the worst hero
tight sluice
can we see group standingsi n game?
nvm website has it
@errant tuskpray that candy shop has old arcanas
burnt basin
hokori actually stomped GG wow
i think
the candy shit is their way of giving access to the arcanas locked in BPs
but i think they will be super expensive
and not easily obtainable otherwise old buyers would mald
or it will be another slot machine
i bought the bundle today i hope they release another one
cause i sure as hell aint giving them 100 more euro jsut for the arcana
burnt basin
counter match ups i think
and limit testing
it is day 1 after all
and they are gonna get UB no matter what
tight sluice
psg griefing my predictions rn
burnt basin
its smart what they are doing
what did it do for hte mthe previous years when they enver experimented and stomped group stages
tender fox
pretty sure they still had highest amount of heroes picked previous years also
burnt basin
pretty sure they still had highest amount of heroes picked previous years also
true but drafts made sense
this is lets throw counter picks and see if it works
severe sail
Ok so I just woke up...how did EG go 6-0 against two of what I think most people thought were the best teams in the group?
burnt basin
clown draft works
vital pollen
"thats just how dota is these days, everybody scales with networth"
brought to you by the best talent in dota casting
LGD is just absolutelyi nsane at finding farm even when theyre behind coming out of the laning stage
burnt basin
I believe in EG
tender fox
or it looked like a draft on 1 screen at least but not on the strim
burnt basin
meta heroes fit them a lot
but i think we are at the point where it will be good for dota in general if LGD wins this year
we are losing china to league
lil robots can do more things mechanically there
vital pollen
literally everyone left the area
only need director8
maybe this is their plan
everybody gets to draft during groupstage
see what works
tender fox
both marci and bat completly ignored 
burnt basin
i dont think marci si good tbh (HOT take)
i just think people arent used to counterplaying her
same way when ES used to be busted every game pick
the nerfs are more than enough
errant tusk
disagree
its just too stupid of a hero that perma bashes you with just 2 items
that power spike is way too good
also e is way too good
free satanic for your carry
20k lina or sf vs 10k marci
and marci wins it coz just pop ult and perma bash you
funfunfunfunfunfnfufnfun
burnt basin
uhm
how is it perma bash though
there is a shit ton of delay between the attacks reprocing now
the slow on it is negligible
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and its a support hero
errant tusk
but it doesnt work anymore
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cause if u try to lane with her now as 3 u gonna get buttfucked
she is strong sure
but shes not busted
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and honestly if u allow a 4/5 marci to get to bkb basher
u deserve to lose
she is a win more hero now
punishing bad positioning
literally what ES used to do
errant tusk
its not that hard to get bkb/basher from 4 pos
you get lots of stuff done usually early on
as she's strong roamer
burnt basin
ye i disagree to that
her lvl 1 spells are subpar now
personal opinions i guess
preferring marci over primal on the handshake non bans though is insane to me
and i think rubick is a HUGE counter to marci now
vital pollen
its kinda fun to watch lgd how they bait the enemy team into thinking theyre ahead
by giving them some free core kills
tight sluice
vital pollen
same shit now
soniqs gets like
few kills on lesh
after he won mid
meanwhile TA farming
burnt basin
other than dp they dont really have a ta counter
and when she gets to 25 dp wont be able to come in range to remove the refractions
as i say it he dies lmao
this was prolly an ac radi naix game
btw u guy swatching league too?
tight sluice
lmfao
I am but there is probably no one else in here that plays both games
watching last night made me very happy I dropped playing it for dota
game is shit
burnt basin
i dont play league