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tender fox Sep 3, 2022, 9:45 AM

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literally biggest prize pool esport even for like 10 years straight

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im sure they can get intel etc as sponsor

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that sponsor every esl shit tourney

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 9:49 AM

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Yeah but it's not like ESL doesn't literally have a Russian mafia gambling website sponsor as well.

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And it's not like a shit ton of teams don't have betting websites sponsors as well

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dead

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I kind of just wish they were better companies to do this but I think that's a bit of a pipe dream

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 10:57 AM

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There's only 2 production companies in dota left and they both suck ass

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Same with sponsors

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Betting sites and crypto are the only ones to have plenty of money to throw around

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 10:58 AM

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Ye

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 10:58 AM

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Companies like Intel or Nvidia have plenty of advertising space outside of gaming events, so they don't care that much

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 10:59 AM

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There was some talk about there being more subtle main stage advertising from companies like ASUS and intel

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But it doesn't include banners or overlays and shit because it's mainstage

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:07 AM

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ye

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they typically just sponsor the event directly and get exposure that way

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but theyre not "headline" sponsors

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 11:07 AM

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Ye

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I really just want them to advertise the fucking game angery

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:09 AM

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definitely seems like theres a lack of attention really

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most of the new sets are just the ones that didnt make it into previous TI one

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 11:10 AM

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Considering how bummed people have been in the past about missing out on sets because they didn't win the lottery basically, I don't think I have a problem with that honestly.

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They all have to follow the creative guidelines so it's not like you're getting outdated sets that are low quality in some way.

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:11 AM

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maybe

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but its still bad decisionmaking

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we get 2 personas for CM and PA, both of which already have an arcana, and the PA one is one of the best arcanas in the game

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the event mode is announced but missing (and its just diretide again), 1 arcana is missing, both personas are missing

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theyve only shown 1 set of immortal treasures too, usually they already showed 2 but only released one

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 11:12 AM

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I will say that it does seem like they chose the wrong heroes to give them to ye

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:12 AM

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more than 50% of the battlepass features are "coming soon"

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 11:12 AM

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Are the personas just not in this phase?

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:14 AM

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nah

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and i mean

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not a big fan of the cm fursona anyway

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i kinda like the idea of gender-swapped personas

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like male PA/female AM

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but CM is just getting a fursona it seems

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 11:16 AM

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Have there been any spoilers for that? Sometimes people show shit they're working on and this kind of stuff takes a while to do

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:17 AM

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nah, but from the art it seems obvious

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and the description

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youll just get a wolf persona

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 11:18 AM

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Mmm

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She has so many fucking cosmetics already man.

errant tusk Sep 3, 2022, 11:23 AM

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vital pollen There's only 2 production companies in dota left and they both suck ass

thats valve's fault

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noone wants to work with them

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:25 AM

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yeah maybe

errant tusk Sep 3, 2022, 11:25 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HPRmV1Nu7o

YouTube

Richard Lewis

The Richard Lewis Show #174 w/ Kyle

#dota2 #Kyle #Valve

Kyle Freedman is a former player turned commentator and analyst for Dota 2. He has worked multiple premium broadcasts, including three TIs, since 2018.

https://www.twitch.tv/richardlewisreports
http://patreon.com/BTNCSGO
http://twitter.com/rlewisreports
https://www.instagram.com/richardlewisreports/
http://rlewisreports.co...

▶ Play video

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kyle talks there about it

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that noone wants to take valve's majors even

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thats why we're stuck with bad pgl

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OMEGALUL

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:25 AM

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but like

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its not like theres a lot of other production companies

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in the gaming sphere anyway

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riot does their own stuff

errant tusk Sep 3, 2022, 11:26 AM

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because its incinerating money

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:26 AM

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ye

errant tusk Sep 3, 2022, 11:26 AM

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unless you're esl and have katowice/cologne

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:26 AM

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its just not profitable

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to produce esports events

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unless you cheap out 24/7

errant tusk Sep 3, 2022, 11:26 AM

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riot is probably making money

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right?

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:27 AM

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nah

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their battlepasses etc. are even worse

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they just have more corporate sponsors

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cause they sold out

errant tusk Sep 3, 2022, 11:28 AM

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they were probably pressured to do battlepass

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 11:28 AM

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franchised it all etc

errant tusk Sep 3, 2022, 11:28 AM

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becuase of direct comparisons to dota

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or well i mean TI battlepass

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 11:28 AM

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Ye

errant tusk Sep 3, 2022, 11:28 AM

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now there is multiple battlepasses because $$$$

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and they like money

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even tho dota is like 0.1% project for them

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i think their revenues from battlepass/dota in general is less than 1% because yea they have better things

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just take a look how active steam market is 😄

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 11:30 AM

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Esports in general have just never been profitable except for some investors, and making it, or at least trying to make it, profitable just leads to gross shit usually.

errant tusk Sep 3, 2022, 11:30 AM

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there is few ways of making money yea

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one of them is having some t2-t3 team of young players and hoping they have breakout performance so you can sell them for big profit to some org that actually wants to win

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like ence does for example in csgo

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or copenhagen flames or whatever the fuck that team was

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but then you have orgs like complexity/eg that incinerate money

stiff pebble Sep 3, 2022, 11:31 AM

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Yep

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Most eSports organizations are propped up entirely by venture capital looking to make a return.

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Then not advertising the game is also fucking annoying because I think it's so easy to point to what's better about Dota than some of the other offerings in the genre.

buoyant sage Sep 3, 2022, 12:06 PM

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wdym by "production companies"

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 12:06 PM

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pgl, esl

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redbull used to do some as well

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but yeah its less production companies and more TOs at this poiint

buoyant sage Sep 3, 2022, 12:06 PM

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I know valve position is "we're game developers, we dont do esports"

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I see

vital pollen Sep 3, 2022, 12:07 PM

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its kinda become the same

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a TO isnt hiring a production company anymore

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theyre just doing it themselves

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cause its cheaper

buoyant sage Sep 3, 2022, 12:07 PM

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same old same old

buoyant sage Sep 6, 2022, 5:08 PM

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https://twitter.com/NoContextDota2/status/1567131600391131139

Dota 2 Memes (@NoContextDota2)

https://t.co/e7I3FVk2wJ

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errant tusk Sep 7, 2022, 11:30 AM

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is it coz people hate them being so predatory about it and gating it behind level 500

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or because of the adjusted prices to regions?

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has to be latter one

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all my friends that always buy it no matter how shit it is bought 500 anyway

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LULE

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also kinda unexepected

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ngl

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3-0 aswell

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very unexpected

stiff pebble Sep 7, 2022, 11:39 AM

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Yep. Not close. At all.

errant tusk Sep 7, 2022, 11:40 AM

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outsiders didnt lose a single map

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and thne just got 3-0'd

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i guess stubborn in drafts idk

stiff pebble Sep 7, 2022, 11:58 AM

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Rodger also playing like a freak.

vital pollen Sep 7, 2022, 1:47 PM

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errant tusk is it coz people hate them being so predatory about it and gating it behind leve...

It's also cause it is basically just released differently

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Usually we had everything from the start

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Except the immortal treasures 2/3

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Now it releases in like 2 blocks?

torn girder Sep 7, 2022, 1:54 PM

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Ye vp getting 3-0’d was weird lol

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Woke up and checked results and was like wtf

vital pollen Sep 7, 2022, 1:57 PM

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boom just looked really damn solid leading up to the finals tho

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they just rolled over everybody yesterday and today

tender fox Sep 7, 2022, 1:59 PM

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they recruited boombl4 to roll over opponents?

vital pollen Sep 7, 2022, 9:14 PM

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lmao

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infamous lost all drafting priorities

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cause leostyle used a monkey courier with a racist name

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http://puu.sh/Jkcuy/f16fa41b93.jpg

stiff pebble Sep 7, 2022, 9:30 PM

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kekdog kekdog kekdog

vital pollen Sep 7, 2022, 9:45 PM

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looks like theyre losing 0-3 anyway

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kekdog

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or well, not anyway

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this definitely caused some problems 😄

errant tusk Sep 8, 2022, 7:40 PM

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tell me

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its not real

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vital pollen Sep 8, 2022, 11:23 PM

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@errant tusk love losing 3 matches in a row to maphackers

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feels like

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old dota1 days

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where you cant play outside of inhouse leagues anymore

errant tusk Sep 8, 2022, 11:25 PM

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vital pollen <@205013090188656641> love losing 3 matches in a row to maphackers

Weirdege

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playing dota 2

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good one

vital pollen Sep 8, 2022, 11:25 PM

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i mean, playing with some old friends

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just frustrating when youre in the treeling

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and the mag just blinks on top of you for horntoss > skewer

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with zero vision

vital pollen Sep 12, 2022, 6:14 AM

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Wonder if xg is gonna finally ban maybe puck. Dude is a menace on the hero

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2k networth behind paparazzi Lina by minute 10 and still making insane plays

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Puck ban finally. And paparazzi sf poggers

stiff pebble Sep 12, 2022, 6:35 AM

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prayge

errant tusk Sep 12, 2022, 6:30 PM

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na quals finals

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yep

vital pollen Sep 12, 2022, 6:30 PM

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yeah

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china was pog tho

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maybe with 4deaths in 3 games, over 50 kills

errant tusk Sep 12, 2022, 6:31 PM

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cant wait for my favourite loser to be featured in another truesight

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ame PogU

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he is the villain of that anime tho

vital pollen Sep 12, 2022, 6:31 PM

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haha

stiff pebble Sep 12, 2022, 6:31 PM

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dead dead dead dead dead

vital pollen Sep 12, 2022, 6:31 PM

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RNG is looking really good atm

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kaka and maybe are in top form

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if they can keep it up, they might be better than LGD

errant tusk Sep 12, 2022, 6:32 PM

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idk i have learned (learnt?) with tis

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that its just

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form of the day/moment/week is so big

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idk

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last 3 tis been won by teams from open quals

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so maybe its secret's year

vital pollen Sep 12, 2022, 6:32 PM

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kekdog

stiff pebble Sep 12, 2022, 6:32 PM

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Doubt.

errant tusk Sep 12, 2022, 6:32 PM

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why would you doubt

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that squad with zayac/reso looked so much better than iceiceice one

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id put them as favourites to get through euw qual

vital pollen Sep 12, 2022, 6:33 PM

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reso one of my fav plaers

errant tusk Sep 12, 2022, 6:33 PM

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honestly

stiff pebble Sep 12, 2022, 6:33 PM

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Stranger things have definitely happened for fucking sure.

vital pollen Sep 12, 2022, 6:33 PM

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always been solid

stiff pebble Sep 12, 2022, 6:33 PM

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Ye

errant tusk Sep 12, 2022, 6:33 PM

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reso is amazing yea

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there is 4 rly good teams in euw qual tho

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nigma looked good too

stiff pebble Sep 12, 2022, 6:34 PM

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errant tusk why would you doubt

I just doubt NA as a knee-jerk reaction, they're totally fine and better than average most of the time.

errant tusk Sep 12, 2022, 6:34 PM

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liquid had ok season in general

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but secret isnt na

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suseg

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euw qualifiers are gonna be rly interesting tho

stiff pebble Sep 12, 2022, 6:35 PM

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Is NA NA?

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peepostudy

errant tusk Sep 12, 2022, 6:35 PM

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im confused

stiff pebble Sep 12, 2022, 6:35 PM

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I was only doubting NA, not Secret.

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prayge

errant tusk Sep 12, 2022, 6:35 PM

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fair

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i dont rly believe in any of the na teams rly

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i like ccnc/quinn as a player tho

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think he's rly good at the game

stiff pebble Sep 12, 2022, 6:37 PM

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Ye

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I think I might have liked him more when he was watching MasterChef though.

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monkahmm

errant tusk Sep 12, 2022, 6:37 PM

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did he even watch them? idk

stiff pebble Sep 12, 2022, 6:37 PM

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Anyway I just don't want it to be a shit show.

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Yeah a long time ago

tender fox Sep 13, 2022, 9:59 AM

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why is everyone getting sweeped in finals

tender fox Sep 13, 2022, 10:43 AM

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nigma gonna fall to goonsquad Kreygasm

stiff pebble Sep 13, 2022, 10:49 AM

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dead

tender fox Sep 13, 2022, 10:51 AM

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ursa firsthitbash on void KEKW

stiff pebble Sep 13, 2022, 10:56 AM

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Always

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Void shard

100rogue

stiff pebble Sep 13, 2022, 12:13 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/spectre-gif-22083752

Tenor

tender fox Sep 13, 2022, 12:29 PM

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u got a auto pfp changer at this point?

stiff pebble Sep 13, 2022, 1:07 PM

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tender fox u got a auto pfp changer at this point?

The new discord updates fudged the last one so I've been testing in a little.

tender fox Sep 13, 2022, 4:31 PM

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secret gonna lose KEKL

stiff pebble Sep 13, 2022, 4:32 PM

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dead

vital pollen Sep 13, 2022, 4:38 PM

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would be hilarious

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nigma and secret in lower bracket already

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only one of them will make it into last chance

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kekdog

tender fox Sep 13, 2022, 4:39 PM

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i mean nigma has not been good for a while

stiff pebble Sep 13, 2022, 4:40 PM

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Every time I have watched them play I've been curious about their ability to make bracket runs.

tender fox Sep 13, 2022, 4:43 PM

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wat is secret doin

versed matrix Sep 13, 2022, 4:44 PM

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no secret TI

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book it

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was it OG vs nigma in quals last year

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or something similar

tender fox Sep 13, 2022, 4:48 PM

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they cant kill DP

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using all their spells

errant tusk Sep 13, 2022, 4:51 PM

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man no way secret doesnt qualify LOLW

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but i just came back and its 1-1 even game

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peepoSHAKE

versed matrix Sep 13, 2022, 4:51 PM

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lul

stiff pebble Sep 13, 2022, 4:52 PM

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monkahmm

versed matrix Sep 13, 2022, 4:54 PM

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secret running them over now

errant tusk Sep 13, 2022, 4:57 PM

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ye this one looks giga over

vital pollen Sep 13, 2022, 4:58 PM

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fml

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grubby bis

tender fox Sep 13, 2022, 5:01 PM

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i dunno crystallis just doesnt feel like a secret player

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wd shard make him invis or something?

stiff pebble Sep 13, 2022, 5:05 PM

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I think it makes him into the death ward

tender fox Sep 13, 2022, 5:06 PM

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ah ye prolly

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reso carrying this

stiff pebble Sep 13, 2022, 5:07 PM

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And I will say it again, faceless void shard is bullshit.

tender fox Sep 13, 2022, 5:12 PM

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feels like there are a lot less hype leading up to ti this year or maybe its just me not caring enough

versed matrix Sep 13, 2022, 8:11 PM

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tinker seems nice

stiff pebble Sep 13, 2022, 8:12 PM

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Ye?

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Stormstormer is an Invoker freak this is not surprising.

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:35 PM

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will nigma lose to brame

stiff pebble Sep 14, 2022, 12:39 PM

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This is what I mean by what I said yesterday about Nigma.

Sometimes it feels like they're playing the game through other people's monitors or something.

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 12:40 PM

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i just want alliance to lose vs team bald

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:42 PM

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they should've already made serious changes 2 years ago or so

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but they refused

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and they just kept on kicking the last guy

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its like the legendary nip csgo lineup all over again

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@tender fox wdym team bald is qualifying

stiff pebble Sep 14, 2022, 12:42 PM

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Yep

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:42 PM

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and gorgc is gonna beat ame in final

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pepeL

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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ye and for that to happen alliance must lose vs them

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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why do you even hate on alliance

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or you mean org alliance?

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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so loda can lose 10k per day

stiff pebble Sep 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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kekdog

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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i dont even know any player from that team now besides nikobaby

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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w33ha?

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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i didnt even know he is there alkXD

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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joined after third nigma kick

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:43 PM

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irrelevant team anyway

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but yea org is scummy

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and i dislike the org

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nigma just keeps on kicking the 5th guy they add

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because i bet they use the logic WE HAD SUCCESS AS 4

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WE CAN DO ITA GAIN

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clueless

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surely its the 5th guy fault clueless

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 12:44 PM

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iltw+w33 has been there a few tiems right

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or maybe iltw is og

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:45 PM

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iltw couldnt work in that team ever

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i used to hate on him

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but i think he was just a scapegoat

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like you cant pick this guy luna on pos 1

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 12:45 PM

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was just sad for him, joined, kicked then joined and kicked

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before ti or something

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:45 PM

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and suck miracles dick on mid 24/7

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like you just cant

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they needed to pick him some dogshit non carries on safelane like necro

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if they wanna play like that

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 12:46 PM

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they needed matu

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:46 PM

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also laning with kuro

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= insta lose every lane

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because he was so bad

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yea matu was mad underrated for ages tbh

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i think

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but i mean he is perfect player to play with miracles/nishas

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 12:47 PM

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he embraces the pos2 from safelane

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:47 PM

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ye

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because when you have miracle/nisha you have pos 1 from mid lane

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 12:47 PM

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and he plays ld and shit that u can and want to leave alone

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 12:47 PM

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he had weird af hero pool too

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he could play some random garbage that would just stomp game because he'd play necrophoses

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broodmothers

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even ld is very quirky offmeta nowadays

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besides that malaysia tournament where it was ok

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i mean even if nigma wins this game i assume they get shitstomped by any decent team

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 12:58 PM

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Turn on stream. Gareth casting. Turn off sound.

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God i hope he's not casting ti

stiff pebble Sep 14, 2022, 1:05 PM

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dead

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 1:54 PM

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g3 inc KEKW

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nigma byebye

stiff pebble Sep 14, 2022, 1:59 PM

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dead dead

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 7:30 PM

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wtf is this water rune enjoyers team

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are they even div 1

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 7:30 PM

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i mean they took a game off of itb, no?

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and itb is definitely one oft he better teams

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 7:31 PM

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no no

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im not like

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saying who the fuck are they as in they are shit

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just never heard of them

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 7:31 PM

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6th div2

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started lb

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 7:31 PM

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ye

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 7:31 PM

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didnt know div 2 gets to play in ti quals

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this riki supp is nice

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 7:33 PM

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yeah

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the div1 teams start upper bracket

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the div2 ones in LB

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 7:33 PM

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neat

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 7:35 PM

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few in top of div2 was in ub also

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top3 it looks like

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 7:37 PM

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is it just me

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or is this TI quali jsut omega boring

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 7:42 PM

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idk i watch when i can

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it just feels like the good teams are just quite far ahead of the others

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dota is in a weird spot when you question whether nigma is even a good team atm

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or secret

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 7:44 PM

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yea i mean

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i watched some NA games

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and honestly

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as a region, i feel like NA are lightyears behind EU/China

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and these lower bracket teams in EU would prob have a good run in NA

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 7:44 PM

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thats been the case for most esports for awhile i think

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 7:45 PM

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but its so boring to watch bad dota when ur used to LGD, spirit, OG pace

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 7:45 PM

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yea

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and even then xiao8 will just throw away a grand final with naga siren spam

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LUL

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 7:46 PM

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yep

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LGD might be the weirdest team in professional dota

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sniper KEKK

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 7:48 PM

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im also tired of just seeing fucking DP every game deadge

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also feels like some weird metas developing in regions of picking 3 mid game oriented cores with no real late game option

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or like a non traditional pos 1 and have your pos 2 be carry

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 7:52 PM

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i havent paid enough attention to the meta

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ah yes cant wait for alliance batchest

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the worst team in EU

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 7:56 PM

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it was sad watching them throw that one game away

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where it was giga late

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SF vs Lina

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 8:34 PM

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wait wtf

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pango marcy is actually imba

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sidekick swash on wave is like mk jingu boundless wtf

stiff pebble Sep 14, 2022, 8:52 PM

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Marci sandking is s also fucking obnoxious

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 8:53 PM

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gorgc team sotomping

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alkXD

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 8:53 PM

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alliance kekDepp

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team bald aPES2_Cheer

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 8:59 PM

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aluliance

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idk what this alliance team is

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who the fuck is Limitless

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 8:59 PM

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some dogs from the shelter

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 8:59 PM

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their coach is a hots player

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:00 PM

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was watching the man city game, forgot about dota

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:00 PM

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ez goal for haaland

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:01 PM

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the Håland jerkoff competition

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can hopefully end

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sooner rather than later

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:01 PM

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its only been a few games

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:01 PM

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its unbearable in swedish studios

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because he's norwegian

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:02 PM

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he is just fun to watch

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:02 PM

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why

#

he barely touches the ball

#

got that pippo inzaghi eye for a goal

#

doesnt do anything spectacular with the ball otherwise

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:02 PM

#

he score goals you know, what the game revolves around

#

like it way more than having some backpassing andy

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:03 PM

#

ye but how is it fun to watch, he's doing tap ins cus of awareness

#

fun to watch = ronaldinho

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:03 PM

#

are you a liverpoo fan

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:04 PM

#

yes

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:04 PM

#

i think its fun to watch him beat down holding off like 3 defenedrs and scoring in PL when they all jerk of their own league

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:04 PM

#

KEKK

#

typical stockholmer opinion

#

fucking serie A wankers

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:04 PM

#

maybe nunez will be decent

#

liverpool have been kinda shit though

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:04 PM

#

listen i am not saying nunez is anything like håland

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:04 PM

#

went for almost double the price

#

market is insane

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

i jsut dont think håland is a spectacular player playstyle wise, he scores a fuckton of goals cus he got everything except technique

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

pool fans after community shield or w/e vs now KEKW

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

wdym

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

insane positioning and choice of space

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

yes

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

makes it look so easy

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

they were all like haaland noob nunez numba one we are the best yey HYPERS

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

he's like a big, physical pippo inzaghi

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

not spectacular though

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

insane

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:05 PM

#

tender fox they were all like haaland noob nunez numba one we are the best yey <:HYPERS:659...

so ur saying we shouldnt celebrate winning vs city

#

because in the future liverpool will play like shit

#

and nunez will headbutt someone

#

ok dood

#

captain hindsight

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:06 PM

#

that headbutt was so funny

#

played like a fiddle

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:06 PM

#

nah im just sayign how they all played down haaland after first game before season started

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:06 PM

#

yea idk, he's such a manchild atm

#

i think everyone knew håland would be good

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:06 PM

#

get rid of the man bun

#

looks so bad

#

haland too

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:07 PM

#

ur allowed to banter another team tho

#

if you beat them

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:07 PM

#

like a troll

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:07 PM

#

and alliance tapped out KEKL

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:07 PM

#

im a united fan, so far its been decent

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:07 PM

#

alliance should tap out of dota

#

forever

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:07 PM

#

ye loda is bleeding 10k per day

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:07 PM

#

good

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:07 PM

#

versed matrix im a united fan, so far its been decent

looking promising

#

compared to last season

#

still no insane football being played, but winning at least

#

and showing will

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:08 PM

#

been good at counter attacking NODDERS

#

rashford running

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:08 PM

#

literally all i ask for as a fan of a team, i want to see them give all they got, if they are shit then so be it. But liverpool right now are running around chilling on the pitch and letting in ridiculous goals

#

its so frustrating to watch

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:09 PM

#

well u have kinda been defending with 2 cb+fabinho

#

getting abused on the wings

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:09 PM

#

never seen trent this bad

#

defensively

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:10 PM

#

cus u didnt use to defend KEKW

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:10 PM

#

he's been ok in previous seasons, but this season he's literally not doing anything right

#

in defense

#

going forward always a threat ofc

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:10 PM

#

should honestly just move him up and put in a real defender

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:10 PM

#

TAA always sus defensively

#

but got cover from midfield like henderson

#

van dijk not having a good time either

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:11 PM

#

hendo is on his last strides

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:11 PM

#

inhalers ran out

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:11 PM

#

milner is finished

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:11 PM

#

keita permacrock

#

also crap

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:11 PM

#

our central midfield is in total shambles if thiago is injured

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:11 PM

#

fabinho has also been kinda injured prone

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:11 PM

#

im surprised how good eriksen has been

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:11 PM

#

ye its insanity that they didnt throw money at a CM this window

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:11 PM

#

if he goes out its down to 0

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:12 PM

#

and firmino doing the most work on top, missing mane badly

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:12 PM

#

yea i mean Eriksen is adapting

#

playing a low sitting role, kinda weird

#

but i guess it works

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:12 PM

#

he is the pre assist

#

quick transition into bruno

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:12 PM

#

its what we call a "hockey assist"

#

in sweden

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:12 PM

#

because everyone else is shit

#

fred and mct cant pass for shit

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:12 PM

#

McFred KEKK

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:13 PM

#

casemiro not that type either

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:13 PM

#

u dont need 2 passers

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:13 PM

#

you start taking the noose out when you see mcfred

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:13 PM

#

just get casemiro in to clean up in front

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:13 PM

#

pooshited midfield has been horrendous for a long time

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:13 PM

#

but the money spent on antony etc is stupid KEKW

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:13 PM

#

https://tenor.com/view/antony-antony-spin-antony-man-utd-antony-manchester-united-antony-matheus-dos-santos-gif-26599262

Tenor

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:13 PM

#

antony not worth half what they paid

#

ajax skinned them

#

but they were desperate and have the money

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:14 PM

#

he's a fun player to watch tho

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:14 PM

#

so fuck the glazers

#

ronaldo gash as well

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:14 PM

#

a Taarabt player

#

we love taraabt players

#

brings some flavor to the league

#

dribbling for the sake of it

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:15 PM

#

yeah, a lot of pressure on him because of the price

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:15 PM

#

but yeah kinda sad to see players like ronaldo die on the bench cus they dont wanna retire

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:15 PM

#

hope he enjoys it and grows into it

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:15 PM

#

did you see zlatans latest comments

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:15 PM

#

no

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:15 PM

#

nah

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:15 PM

#

still not retiring

#

KEKK

#

he's gonna play this season

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:15 PM

#

is he out injured atm or am I misremembering

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:16 PM

#

well he kinda got big influence on the squad, i guess ronaldo do in someway to but yeah feels diff

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:16 PM

#

"When i see someone thats better than me i will retire, so far i dont see anyone like that"

#

is basically what he said

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:16 PM

#

giroud PEPW

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:16 PM

#

ronaldo has always been a pissbaby

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:16 PM

#

Ronaldo is prob done

#

with football

#

just cashing in

#

500k a week

#

ez money

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:17 PM

#

imagine earning that in a week

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:17 PM

#

milans team is actually kinda insane

#

they are all sub 23yo or something except for giroud+zlatan

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:18 PM

#

ye they're looking great

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:18 PM

#

hernandez and leao prolly lost next season though

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:18 PM

#

honestly think chelsea might go out in the group stage

#

losing against zagreb and x today

#

milan to go

#

monkaSHAKE

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:19 PM

#

well the other teams are all losing points also

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:19 PM

#

I lowkey hope potter flops

#

everyone sucking his dick

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:19 PM

#

Potter is a swedish legend

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:19 PM

#

made Östersund beat ppl up in europe

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:19 PM

#

for what he did to Östersund

#

ye

#

madness

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:21 PM

#

but fuck chelsea

#

I wouldnt mind a timeline where liverpool and chelsea are shit this season

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:22 PM

#

but what is this 2 weeks of mourning pushing games why

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:23 PM

#

no games until october :))

#

cus of international break

#

why the fuck do they have international break now

#

when there's a WC in 2 months

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:23 PM

#

kinda weird they only push the fun games

#

"to few police cus funeral day after" or something

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:24 PM

#

because the "fun games" aka the big games

#

require more police

#

than small team games

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:25 PM

#

ye but the funeral is day after madgeBusiness

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 9:36 PM

#

distant yoke or is this TI quali jsut omega boring

china was good

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 9:37 PM

#

ye

#

agreed

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 9:37 PM

#

but also a stomp

#

all of them are, kinda

#

mostly cause

#

DPC was fucking garbage

#

so a bunch of trash teams got through

#

and a bunch of good ones didnt

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:41 PM

#

gorc kicking out alliance with pudge dance

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:41 PM

#

alliance lul

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 9:42 PM

#

tbf pudge is a really good hero atm

#

fleshheap is broken

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:44 PM

#

wtf happened to void

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:44 PM

#

you mean the arcana or what

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:45 PM

#

no, did he die to cm 1v3

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 9:47 PM

#

maybe watch some sea tomorrow see if ana+topson qual

#

team bald is choking

#

they all just keep tp and die

#

KEKW

versed matrix Sep 14, 2022, 9:58 PM

#

good fight finally

tender fox Sep 14, 2022, 10:14 PM

#

Couldnt do shit vs void

#

And its nikos best hero i think

#

Gorp Sadge

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 11:00 PM

#

my streamer

#

strongegg

#

this mars is some hot garbage tho

#

holy

#

actually 6th man for TB KEKW

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 11:38 PM

#

alliance trying to pull out win through lagging the game out with PL

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 11:38 PM

#

my streamer

#

strongegg

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 11:38 PM

#

errant tusk this mars is some hot garbage tho

yeah

#

tbf

#

its a horrendous mars game

#

against tusk/visage

distant yoke Sep 14, 2022, 11:39 PM

#

team bald is what alliance should be

#

alliance is an abomination

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 11:40 PM

#

idk if it was on purpose, but the fact they gave farming prio to the tusk for his bkb at the start and then later to the hoodwink for pl counter, and swapped the visage to become more of a support this game.... that was pretty damn cool

#

dont think you can do good arenas against a tusk that has bkb minute 17

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 11:47 PM

#

LOLW

#

🔮

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 11:47 PM

#

I feel like meme teams undermine the integrity of the league. DPC shouldn't be for joke teams that aren't taking things seriously. In my opinion, Valve should step in and ban Alliance.

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 11:47 PM

#

HE WAS RIGHT

#

i mean not like team bald takes it super seriously

torn girder Sep 14, 2022, 11:47 PM

#

vital pollen I feel like meme teams undermine the integrity of the league. DPC shouldn't be f...

KEKW

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 11:47 PM

#

they dont even practice as much as other teams

#

they just stream

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 11:47 PM

#

wasnt that smth loda said

#

like

#

5y ago or smth

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 11:47 PM

#

idk

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 11:48 PM

#

psure it was

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 11:48 PM

#

loda says lots of dumbs hit

#

he is not a smart man

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 11:48 PM

#

i mean

#

he is swedish so

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 11:48 PM

#

lyllotpepe

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 11:48 PM

#

lyllotpepe

#

xcalibur just said they needed a break at the start of the series

#

cause one of their players had to finish their wow raid

errant tusk Sep 14, 2022, 11:56 PM

#

alkXD

#

where did he say that

vital pollen Sep 14, 2022, 11:57 PM

#

his stream

#

hes going over the last match rn

#

he said in one of the breaks they took to discuss strats, the guy suddenly asked if someone had any ideas on how to beat the wow raidboss they were on

#

https://www.twitch.tv/xcaliburye

Twitch

XcaliburYe - Twitch

contact me at : ask.xcaliburye@gmail.com

▶ Play video

tender fox Sep 15, 2022, 9:35 AM

#

only alliance meme or gorp threads on reddit PEPW

versed matrix Sep 15, 2022, 11:34 AM

#

secrekt

errant tusk Sep 15, 2022, 12:34 PM

#

secret deleted

#

farmed real hard

stiff pebble Sep 15, 2022, 12:35 PM

#

-Secret

tender fox Sep 15, 2022, 12:35 PM

#

pepelol

versed matrix Sep 15, 2022, 12:35 PM

#

pos1 player z impact both games

tender fox Sep 15, 2022, 12:36 PM

#

team bald got ez lb run ahead of them

stiff pebble Sep 15, 2022, 12:37 PM

#

prayge

#

monkahmm

errant tusk Sep 15, 2022, 12:55 PM

#

pepeoilprince

tender fox Sep 15, 2022, 12:59 PM

#

how many dollares is that

versed matrix Sep 15, 2022, 1:09 PM

#

ive never seen primal beast

stiff pebble Sep 15, 2022, 1:14 PM

#

versed matrix ive never seen primal beast

In comp or casually?

versed matrix Sep 15, 2022, 1:15 PM

#

ever

stiff pebble Sep 15, 2022, 1:16 PM

#

dead

tender fox Sep 15, 2022, 1:16 PM

#

guess it got into cm in newest patch

#

aPES_Shake

stiff pebble Sep 15, 2022, 1:17 PM

#

Yep

vital pollen Sep 15, 2022, 2:31 PM

#

and its incredibly broken

vital pollen Sep 15, 2022, 7:59 PM

#

ah yes another maphacking zeus

#

finds me with his nimbus

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 8:05 AM

#

talon 1-0 t1 dance

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 8:29 AM

#

23savage is kinda like EE

#

make insane or garbo plays

#

PEPW

stiff pebble Sep 16, 2022, 8:31 AM

#

https://tenor.com/view/coin-toss-coin-toss-gif-5017733

Tenor

coin toss

▶ Play video

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 9:20 AM

#

are you a FiftEE/FiftEE enjoye?

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 11:07 AM

#

g3 nigma-secret aPES_Shake

errant tusk Sep 16, 2022, 11:33 AM

#

nigma getting shitstomped

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 11:34 AM

#

washed up team

errant tusk Sep 16, 2022, 11:34 AM

#

bad draft

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 11:37 AM

#

nisha just rolled whole team

buoyant sage Sep 16, 2022, 11:52 AM

#

nigma not qualified for TI?

#

didnt rly follow, shitload of work

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 12:05 PM

#

yep secret knocked em out in lb

buoyant sage Sep 16, 2022, 12:07 PM

#

oh lb

#

whats the final?

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 12:08 PM

#

buoyant sage Sep 16, 2022, 12:09 PM

#

oh theres some to play still

#

ty

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 12:10 PM

#

secret gotta win next to get into the wild card qual if they dont win it

#

or it was called last chance qual where 2-3 from every qual duke it out

buoyant sage Sep 16, 2022, 12:12 PM

#

I see

#

goodsquad has a chance too, they seemed really fine last time I watched them

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 12:14 PM

#

ye secret has not looked great so feels 50/50

#

only top2 to TI, looks pretty stacked

torn girder Sep 16, 2022, 1:54 PM

#

Vici outsiders likely to just roll all i think

#

Although outsiders could choke

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 2:24 PM

#

vici is kinda a new team

#

xtreme is better

errant tusk Sep 16, 2022, 3:14 PM

#

think outsiders tilted in finals

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 3:21 PM

#

think pudge lost every game ive seen

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 3:23 PM

#

pudge refresher just double ate tb to death middle of fight KEKW

errant tusk Sep 16, 2022, 3:23 PM

#

how is itb vs goonsquad going? Cant check not at home

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 3:23 PM

#

goonsquad 20k lead

#

and better team

#

g3

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 3:23 PM

#

1-1 and gs 20k lead ye

errant tusk Sep 16, 2022, 3:23 PM

#

kk ty

#

suprising tbh goonsquad doing way better than expected

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 3:24 PM

#

#

pudge kinda stinky

#

if omni saves TB pudge cant double eat

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 3:25 PM

#

i mean goonsquad is doing whats expected so far right? only liquid+entity+secret got better placement in div1

#

with nigma as dark horse as winners of div2

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 3:26 PM

#

nigma dark horse lul

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 3:26 PM

#

pudge owning them

errant tusk Sep 16, 2022, 3:26 PM

#

thought itb would beat them

#

itb played kinda well

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 3:27 PM

#

omni got caught and they won a team fight + rosh

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 3:27 PM

#

itb just won teamfight 20k behind

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 3:27 PM

#

pudge is 10k behind tb tho

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 3:27 PM

#

5k after last fight

#

dont think it was 10k before that

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 3:28 PM

#

pudge pos 1 is kinda interesting

#

its always been a mid in my head

#

and then its been shit for like 4 years

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 3:30 PM

#

i mean he is kinda pos2 from safelane still

#

u want something like a lina/right clicker as pos1 mid

#

and tb keep getting solo killed by pudge without using ult

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 3:32 PM

#

a nice game

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 3:39 PM

#

haha pudge is owning this tb so hard

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 3:40 PM

#

no boots pudka, 280 move speed

#

t5 neutrals

#

and itb gold lead now

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 3:46 PM

#

gs 20k lead and now itb got 15k lead KEKW

#

casual 35k swing

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 3:46 PM

#

each rosh is a lot

#

on top of the fights

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 3:47 PM

#

how do they lose this

#

tb aint doing shit

#

marci getting big

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 3:49 PM

#

bought rapier

#

gg ez

torn girder Sep 16, 2022, 4:27 PM

#

The team with tb lost?

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 4:39 PM

#

Ye, kept going hg and pudge solo killed tb

#

Refresher aghs op

#

Early linked or disk would have won game ez

torn girder Sep 16, 2022, 4:42 PM

#

Noobs

distant yoke Sep 16, 2022, 4:50 PM

#

old alliance

#

3 versions of alliance

#

in this EU quals

#

currently another old alliance is playing vs Entity

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 5:01 PM

#

alliance is back

#

to the fountain

vital pollen Sep 16, 2022, 5:02 PM

#

yeah just greed

#

not using blackhole to kill off the void

distant yoke Sep 16, 2022, 5:05 PM

#

ban void

vital pollen Sep 16, 2022, 5:06 PM

#

nah

#

liquid had this

#

zai just threw this game

distant yoke Sep 16, 2022, 5:06 PM

#

zai Sadge

vital pollen Sep 16, 2022, 5:06 PM

#

i hate this wraith pact first item enigma so much

#

i dont think ive seen it win a single time

#

in like 10 games

distant yoke Sep 16, 2022, 5:08 PM

#

khezu looks so different

#

quitting comp dota did him good

vital pollen Sep 16, 2022, 5:11 PM

#

hmye

errant tusk Sep 16, 2022, 7:28 PM

#

this wd

#

is actual biggest gigachad ive ever seen

#

and people say pos 5 doesnt matter

#

meanwhile he won them this teamfight so hard lmao

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 7:29 PM

#

pos 5 doesnt matter when its a dog player

errant tusk Sep 16, 2022, 7:30 PM

#

can be said about every position

#

xdd

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 7:31 PM

#

pos 5 positioning has to be on point the most

errant tusk Sep 16, 2022, 7:37 PM

#

actually so nicely timed by slark

#

to pounce

#

i mean game is over feels like

#

they will never leave base against bara

#

spirit breaker*

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 7:40 PM

#

barathrum > spirit breaker

#

they got ran over

#

I cant put my finger on it, secret just have not been looking good in the games ive seen

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 7:54 PM

#

Should have replaced cryst

errant tusk Sep 16, 2022, 7:58 PM

#

meh thats not just his fault

#

also he might be good player just might take a little bit longer time to adapt

#

its not like secret was doing amazing without him

#

alkXD

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 8:01 PM

#

im sure he is a good player, all of them are they just dont seem to be working as a team

errant tusk Sep 16, 2022, 8:01 PM

#

its been nisha show for entire season

#

either nisha plays well and solo carries

#

or he doesnt

torn girder Sep 16, 2022, 8:05 PM

#

versed matrix I cant put my finger on it, secret just have not been looking good in the games ...

ye secret and nigma have dropped from the heavens

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 8:06 PM

#

nigma no TI 2 years in a row

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secret 4th place last year or was it 3rd

torn girder Sep 16, 2022, 8:20 PM

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uhhh

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i think one of those 2 yea

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yea 3rd, they got beat by ruski's for spot in grand final iirc

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tbh i forgot they got 3rd

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not a bad showing tbh

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they had that one tourny where they clapped group stage but then got owned

tender fox Sep 16, 2022, 9:05 PM

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secret KEKW

versed matrix Sep 16, 2022, 10:07 PM

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bro fuck these delays

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 6:46 AM

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lol so they didnt play last game

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and t1 got third ana topson has to try last chance PEPW

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 10:00 AM

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thats good

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 11:16 AM

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tender fox lol so they didnt play last game

Yeah they had a shit ton of delays

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 11:27 AM

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weird secret draft

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ppy gonna outdraft himself cus he is always trying to be to cute

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feel like veno and invoker gonna fuck up their melee lineup so hard

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 12:01 PM

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ok lesh and kka getting to big and carries

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 2:46 PM

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secret KEKW

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wd just carrying fight at 70 min

buoyant sage Sep 17, 2022, 2:47 PM

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68 min game

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played like 40 matches since the patch

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and a lot of game go to late/very late game

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 2:49 PM

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crystallis is always fucking 6th in networth as pos1

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he seems very bad at farming

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but reso and nisha is always omega farmed so maybe he is just pos3

buoyant sage Sep 17, 2022, 2:50 PM

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couldnt really do shit with dawnbreaker at this stage of the game

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but ye

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 2:50 PM

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well its all games

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game before mk pos1 6th networth

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last of all cores every game

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 3:16 PM

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why is it always such big delay, secret whining on servers again cus they lose?

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bootcamping in some weird place

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 3:21 PM

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it wasnt just secret

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it was every team that had issues

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even gorgc said on stream he had lags in some game

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goonsquad too

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ITB too

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also they played 70 minute game give them a break holy shit

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https://twitter.com/LimmpDota/status/1571066897092980738

Linus Blomdin (@LimmpDota)

Unlucky PGL don't respect goonsquad as much as secret so we had to play through 3 games with packetloss while they get server change and postpone match 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

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PEPW

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 3:26 PM

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errant tusk it wasnt just secret

yes but only secret get 4h break and postponement KEKL

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 3:27 PM

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coz if kobe or shaq complain about sth then nba will change it

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if some piss player from shit team does it noone cares

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it worked the same with nba rules even

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how it is sadly

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idk how serious the matter was but they could've given them ultimatum that they wont play maybe secret was the only team to have balls to do so, we dont know

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 3:46 PM

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crystallis nw again

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so far behind

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 4:15 PM

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omg crystalis nw now

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AND ULTRA KILL

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HOLY berst player

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with ice they'd have been already out i bet

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they just prio other cores usually over him

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look at the game vs ITB today

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he didnt even go towards 'easy' farm on offlane

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they let reso sit there for 15-18 minutes

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and he was playing dead lane

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also was playing into shit matchup

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mk vs veno is so horrendous

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 4:30 PM

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Good. Reso is a ti-level player. Crystalis isn't

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 4:37 PM

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what if they beat liquid and entity in finals

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 4:37 PM

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errant tusk with ice they'd have been already out i bet

ye reso was a good swap he keeps winning his lane and carries from p3

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but crystallis is constantly losing lanes and doing weird stuff

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 4:37 PM

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then he is ti-level player

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ok you go play a pub

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and play mk vs veno

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i wanna see you win that

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LOLW

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literally unwinnable

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 4:37 PM

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he lose every lane

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 4:37 PM

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thats just not true

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even from the top of my head i remember him winning lane and getting solo kill as slark vs batrider

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i get it people wanna shit on him but its just unfair, they're winning games so surely something is going right still and ofc reso can carry from p3 when he gets m unmch more space than a carry player

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so does ammar

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no doubt reso is a better player ofc

buoyant sage Sep 17, 2022, 4:40 PM

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mizu talking like it's easy to win your safelane

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play the game my dude

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 4:40 PM

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i feel like its another iltw case and he got shit on by community when him underperforming was just team dynamic and drafting

buoyant sage Sep 17, 2022, 4:40 PM

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playing pos 1 is like the worst role atm

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 4:40 PM

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yea you lose like 99% safelanes nowadays

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coz all the offlaners just bully you

buoyant sage Sep 17, 2022, 4:40 PM

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ye

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 4:40 PM

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last patch was even worse than this

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everyone last picking vipers/razors

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absolute unplayable horrendous experience

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 4:41 PM

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but now he lost with razor Hmmm

buoyant sage Sep 17, 2022, 4:41 PM

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ye I had enough quickly last patch

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sebek meant razor offllane

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 4:41 PM

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shoulds till win his lane vs melee

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 4:42 PM

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tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 4:42 PM

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mars nerfed to the gorund according to atf

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 4:42 PM

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errant tusk

he was like 20 lasthit and 1.5k nw behind during laning

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ppy was even catching up on him

buoyant sage Sep 17, 2022, 4:43 PM

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play the game, play pos 1 for 20 games

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and come back

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 4:43 PM

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or i can listen to gorgc and atf say the same thing

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but maybe they also need to play the game more

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but yeah ammar said he is pretty bad at farming in general and dont go to free lanes to farm so others just end up doing it instead

buoyant sage Sep 17, 2022, 4:45 PM

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oh then it's alright

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AShawke_smile

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 4:45 PM

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or they prio other people in farm which is fair

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if he doesnt swap lane for 10-15 minutes and plays deadlane for 10-15 mintues then idk

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he's literally 3k mmr then

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and secret is boosting a guy to TI

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 5:01 PM

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this time he at least ignored mid fight and farmed 10 free waves bot

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lol that cask

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still feels weird he is not topping, ignored whole game and farmed free lanes last 10 minutes PEPW

buoyant sage Sep 17, 2022, 5:07 PM

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when I see morphling I know why I still auto ban it every game

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 5:10 PM

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feel like a nisha solo carry or lose game

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 5:10 PM

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so like secret entire season

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 5:12 PM

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wd can carry though

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weird fight to take, matu owned by tusk

buoyant sage Sep 17, 2022, 5:16 PM

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bruhh

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 5:16 PM

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the bash

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HYPERS

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 5:18 PM

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its almost like 100% for bash with q from pango

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i bet

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or rly good odds

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coz basher is pseudo rng too

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 5:21 PM

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why do they keep giving aegis to razor and zai solo dies alone KEKW

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 5:44 PM

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Bo5 final wont finish today PEPW

buoyant sage Sep 17, 2022, 5:48 PM

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Sadwokege

versed matrix Sep 17, 2022, 5:56 PM

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1h break between each game pls

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lesgooo

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 6:45 PM

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crystallis fucking eating his own hair WTFF

distant yoke Sep 17, 2022, 6:50 PM

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what hair

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 6:51 PM

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the one on his head

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:17 PM

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entity nice to secret and finishing fast after they had some long games

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:17 PM

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entity just rolling over secret

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not even breaking a sweat

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the puppey pos5 cent doesnt seem to work against actual teams

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:18 PM

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thought pure got banned

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:18 PM

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pure is probably

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:18 PM

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or was it just from that specific tourney it happend

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:18 PM

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the best carry in EU atm

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legit impressed with his play

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:18 PM

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pure ruined his pro career

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by writing Z

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havent you heard?

versed matrix Sep 17, 2022, 7:18 PM

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im bussing fucking argos

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:18 PM

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PEPW

versed matrix Sep 17, 2022, 7:18 PM

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ill get to watch g2

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:19 PM

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just dqd from the tourney and kicked NOTED

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:19 PM

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tender fox or was it just from that specific tourney it happend

he just got kicked from tourney and VP

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:19 PM

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depends what do you mean by EU

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yatoro is kinda good too tbh

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:19 PM

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well

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honestly

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id even put him ahead of yatoro atm

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:20 PM

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but yea pure is playing well

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:20 PM

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theyre very similar

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big hero pool

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very active

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:20 PM

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but has he played any good teams yet

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:20 PM

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not just afk farming

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:20 PM

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they're shit stomping 2-0 entire qualifier idk

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:20 PM

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ye

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theyre just breezing through this with no issue

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:20 PM

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and all of their games yhou had a feeling they are better

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ye

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:20 PM

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theyre gonna 3-0 this GF as well i think

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:20 PM

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the games arent close

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like its not alliance level stomps

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or team bald

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:21 PM

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liquid had a bit of a chance in game1 if zai isnt a creep

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:21 PM

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coz these isnt even pro teams

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but yea all of the games i get feeling they have full control over the game

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:21 PM

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but theyre taking apart the "best eu teams" like secret and liquid

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and they do iti n style

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:21 PM

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problem i have with secret is they're new team

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:21 PM

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errant tusk but yea all of the games i get feeling they have full control over the game

yeah exactly. they dont feel threatened at all

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:21 PM

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and we have expectations for them to be literally best team in the world

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and they're brand new team kinda

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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honestly secret aint bad

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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they're gonna benefit a lot from another month or two before TI

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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they just dont have a pos1

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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nah i dont think secret is bad

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its just everyone has unrealistic expectations

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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zayac is definitely not on the level of other pos4s, but hes doing a good job still

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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that they're gonna be best from the get go

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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and its hard to play around puppey sometimes

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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puppey plays kinda greedy

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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ye

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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which makes sense they kicked yapzor

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coz usually it was yapzor taking farm

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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its a lot easier to play 4 if you play with a very defensive/no-networth 5

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:22 PM

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and not using it best

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he plays 4 on laning stage

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but aftert that i have a feeling farm prio is given to puppey

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:23 PM

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exactly, puppey had started drafting himself pos5s that can have more impact if they get a biut more farm

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:23 PM

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every game zayac is last

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yea

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idk these games give me vibe they play offlaner from safelane

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:23 PM

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cause yapzor couldnt play anything else other than rubick

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:23 PM

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and that woulkd be better

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:23 PM

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errant tusk which makes sense they kicked yapzor

inactive due to health reasons not kicked NODDERS

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:23 PM

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for them anyway

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bruh thats such a lie

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:23 PM

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thats a good choice imo. reso is just a better player, one of the best still

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:23 PM

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dont believe orgs

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OMEGALUL

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literally got kicked

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100%

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:24 PM

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feel like he would have joiend up in any qualifier team if kicked

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:24 PM

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dont think he was any hot

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so why would he get msgd to play

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:24 PM

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which team would want him?

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:24 PM

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yea

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:24 PM

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pos4 is the highest skill position in the game atm

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:24 PM

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nigma kick kky

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:24 PM

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ye nigma kicking someone else

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than their 5th

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PepeLaughKEKLULW

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:24 PM

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kick your captain/drafter? kekdog

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but yeah, it seems that their lanes are switched

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reso carries more than crystallis

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and zayac plays more of a 5 than ppy

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:25 PM

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i think secret is gonna get biggest buff from getting more time to practice

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:25 PM

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problem is their heroes dont always fit that

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:25 PM

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as they're brand new team in my eyes

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:25 PM

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ye

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like

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:25 PM

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like they made 3 changes for past 2 months +/-

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:25 PM

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if they can expand their hero selection a bit to fit this kinda gameplay

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where you dont know which lane is gonna get farm prio

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that'd be huge

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:26 PM

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maybe more than 2 months

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but very few tournaments they played together

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:26 PM

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i dont see secret winning last chance

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:26 PM

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i could see them doing it

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:26 PM

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also

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can teams stop playing natures prophet?

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:26 PM

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they will improve the most out of all the teams that go to wildcard last chance qual

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:26 PM

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there are some good teams in there

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:26 PM

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i mean

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:26 PM

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outsiders is good

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:26 PM

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t1 can improve a lot

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xtreme is good, outsiders

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:26 PM

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last chance qual is gonna be outsiders+xtreme

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dont think theres gonna be any competition there

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:27 PM

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outsiders are good yea

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but somehow they inted their qual

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:27 PM

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if extreme manages to not pick enigma

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theyll be fine too

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:27 PM

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i know liquid wont get through last chance qualifier

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they just never are clutch

tender fox Sep 17, 2022, 7:28 PM

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liquid need sk offlane to become meta or something so zai can carry again

errant tusk Sep 17, 2022, 7:28 PM

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they never win the close 1-1 last game

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idk

vital pollen Sep 17, 2022, 7:28 PM

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the quality of the matches is just not even comparable imo

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